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My smug friend just got his N900 up to 800mhz. And i want to get into the competition, is there any way to overclock the X1?
Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...
noONExda said:
Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...
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It's actually called NueOverclockTest, but you are right, it's terribly unstable and will freeze your phone 95% of the time. When it works, however, it's very nice.
No2Chem, the only developer who seems to know how to overclock the Xperia processor, dropped off the face of the earth in September 2009. My theory is that Qualcomm kidnapped him and is forcing him to use an underclocked Palm M505 as torture.
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see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
Xperia X1 "overclock"
Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :
I have just try it and it's look to be really faster on battery !!!
I will see for power consumption and stability in some days but the first thing is impressive !
Thanks
have you noticed anything with battery consumption yet? the only changes ive noticed are the obvious, such as running/watching near 720p quality videos on battery power and multitasking the **** out of the phone. overall general performance has definately increased from my experience, and i am glad i found this tool. Couple it with the right rom and you now have one of the fastest windows mobile phones (besides HD2) on the market. YAYAYAY! xperia x1 is still useful!!!
Yes I can confirm now that the battery consumption is not different than before !!! and for the moment, no bug at all!
And the speed of the phone is definitivly better !!!
Very great !
I'm surprise to don't see more reply on this topic, this soft is a must to have !!!! My Xperia will have some nice day more
I'm gonna install it and try it as soon as I wake up tomorrow
I will try this one and see the difference.. thank you for the tip..
Thank you for your tips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ssingh819 said:
Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :
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cheers mate works like a charm even when changing panels. everything loads faster even the coreplayer. I have X1i with the R3A rom 528MHZ @ 1.325V
everythings stable also thanks alot!
I'm quite skeptical. I'm pretty sure that the X1 is NOT underclocked when on battery power. If someone shows me before/ after benchmarks, I'll be a believer, but I think this is the placebo effect.
If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?
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If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?
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there is an option in the app which is for starting the app after the boot sequence...that should be the reason why there is no difference in boot time
to all you haters
ok first of all;
1. everyone HAS TO REMEMBER that i first ran this application on a STOCK R3A ROGERS CANADA ROM. what i reported is what i noticed, and the difference between the OS running at 384mhz and 528mhz on battery certainly isnt a "placebo" effect. You might be using a different rom, where the cook changed the cpu frequency settings himself but i certainly dont know. If you dont believe me that is underclocking issue is actually an issue, i suggest you google search the topic and check out how many hits you get.
2. The Xperia X2 is running the exact same MSM7201A 528 mhz cpu soo X2 owners should definately check to see if their cpu's are underclocked.
3. Finally i was just trying to help, i love my X1 and i want people to love their X1's too.
ENJOY EVERYONE lets keep this phone ALIVE
installing it right now...
Its amazing.
successfully overclocked x1
hi,i was able to oc my x1 to 672 mhz using the guide in the htc hd forum.try it out.the phone fell faster than ever.
great work. my phone is deffinately running faster
Hey all 2X lovers!
Ive been thinking more and more of some overklocking here and Im running this ROM so I can overlock. Im running SetCPU for running different profiles and lovering CPU speed to save battery. I know it can overlock too with doing the setcpu.txt files but how do you increase voltage in the textfile?? Or can I run Pimp my Cpu at the same time as SetCPU without problem?
What speed/voltage is safe and draws not too much more battery??
And yesh Ive searched for this but didnt really found any good information..
I think use Pimp my Cpu only is better, it's because most x2' kernel developers suggested to use it.
I prefer stable rather than saving battery. If you having serious problem of battery drain, please wipe the battery stats while your battery is full(for make sure it's full, keep charging 2hrs after 100%)
Ok Ill look more into Pimp my CPU then
What speeds and voltages are you running? PMC suggests certain voltages at some overclocks, I assume you should follow them?
fm.sakura0128 said:
I think use Pimp my Cpu only is better, it's because most x2' kernel developers suggested to use it.
I prefer stable rather than saving battery. If you having serious problem of battery drain, please wipe the battery stats while your battery is full(for make sure it's full, keep charging 2hrs after 100%)
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Ok, I am a noob when it comes to OC/UV, i have searched and found this and this but i still have some doubts about undervolting, so IS UNDERVOLTING HARMFUL N SHOULD IT BE USED FOR EVERYDAY USAGE TO GAIN BETTER BATTERY BACKUP??
I am using jetpack 2.1 rom with talon 1ghz kernel (I dont use OC as its harmful) n i have set the values under voltage control app in each clockspeed - 100mV n tested thru stabilitytest app n neocore app, battery is performing considerably better but should i use it under everyday circumstances??
Sorry if I am repeating another question (I really have searched to my best efforts), just wanted to confirm coz i only have 1 phone n i am not very rich
No reason why not, I do, and there is no harm to be done unless you uv too much and get into a deep sleep situation but a re flash will sort that at very worst, but as you have stable values that work, then stay as you are and enjoy better battery
Insanity cm031/platypus neo 15
Has anyone underclocked their O2X? I personally think that overclock is a bit of a placebo effect so I just want to know if anyone has underclocked their phone and if they can kindly share the performance of the phone as well as some benchmarks. I've seen people underclock their Galaxy S2 right down to 500mhz and performance is very smooth! Is O2X similar?
I didn't do any benchmarks (speaking of placebo effect ) but I use setcpu with vorkkernel so that my top frequency gets more and more limited with the battery level and overnight. This way I manage to only loose 1-2% during the night and the phone alive for a couple of hours when under 15%.
I noticed a certain UI lag when under 500mhz but not so much in the graphics department, I guess the gpu has it's own clock.
I have underclock/undervolt to 800Mhz/900mV and works very smoothly
just got setcpu... those profiles are awesome
Lg home is a memory hog and seems to be quite cpu intensive compared to most other home apps but if using a dif homescreen then maybe it will still perform smoothly otherwise i doubt it will perform good.
Hi... I have installed cynogenmod 7.1 Stable. In Performance > CPU Settings, it shows 216/1000MHz as the only available frequency. I installed SetCPU, it closes saying some error.
Can you please tell me what I have to do, basically I want to underclock it for battery issues.
Thanks
Just undervolted all default values by 100mV, stress test running perfect. CPU at 52C on a 18ish ambient day.
I have 3 setcpu profiles on stock.
In call : 312/216
Screen off : 216/216
Battery <100% : 760/216
Getting amazing stand by time, 2h 30m since I unplugged the charger and only 1% battery spent.
Getting decent results during use as well, or atleast thats what I call it. Earlier today I went through 400+ google reader articles over wifi and watch accompanying youtube videos and also checked some external links. After about 30 mins I lost 7-10% battery. I think thats good enough, unless someone here is about to blow my mind with their results
3h and 30m now still at 99%.
5 minutes of evernote and battery at 95% now. Sooo unsatisfying.
benchmark @800Mhz
what rom you using and what setting for oc
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what rom you using and what setting for oc
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Topogigi v20 SP3.
Andrev OC 800MHz wake.
[email protected]
pretty smooth for daily use.
if play heavy games, I restore it back to 1GHz.
what kernel
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Neoblaze, from SP2.
I need as stable ROM as possible, but fast.
all stock from Topogigi's built.
Do you have google video calling via front cam ? That's all I care about and I cant find the answer anywhere.
My lg might be getting decent battery life but the entire operation/daily use experience is very bad. Last night I used subsonic to stream my home library to my phone and while I listened to it I read stuff on google reader and then everything started to lag. Just setting the max and min isn't working well for me. I ran antutu last night and got 4500ish numbers with setcpu and juicedefender off and You are getting 6500+
quabrant 1580marks on 600mhz
after 3 hrs on 600mhz I'm impressed with the battary live!
3hrs wifi browsing, 2times quadtant test. battary dropped 12%
oleg1981 said:
quabrant 1580marks on 600mhz
after 3 hrs on 600mhz I'm impressed with the battary live!
3hrs wifi browsing, 2times quadtant test. battary dropped 12%
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Post more info, what rom, kernel etc. I set my max to 600 and I get good battery but it takes all the fun out of using it, everything lags. You can still do things sure but I dont like lag.
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miina_tokiha said:
Topogigi v20 SP3.
Andrev OC 800MHz wake.
[email protected]
pretty smooth for daily use.
if play heavy games, I restore it back to 1GHz.
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How is the battery life ? Also the 800mhz wake and undervolt are those part of sp3 or extra steps you did ?
retareq said:
Post more info, what rom, kernel etc. I set my max to 600 and I get good battery but it takes all the fun out of using it, everything lags. You can still do things sure but I dont like lag.
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100% stock rom + over it.
the version is 2.2.2 v20b
nothing lags. the only diference i see is thet lock screen sart to respond about 1second after power button is pressed. before it was instant.
Thanks for the info. I'm on v21b rooted with setcpu max set to 600ish and there is noticeable lag everywhere. Feels like how the phone was when I first got it and had to replace the lg launcher to get rid of the lag.
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Do you have google video calling via front cam ? That's all I care about and I cant find the answer anywhere.
My lg might be getting decent battery life but the entire operation/daily use experience is very bad. Last night I used subsonic to stream my home library to my phone and while I listened to it I read stuff on google reader and then everything started to lag. Just setting the max and min isn't working well for me. I ran antutu last night and got 4500ish numbers with setcpu and juicedefender off and You are getting 6500+
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6500+ is when I overclock to 1,4GHz.
it's only for benchmark, and not for daily use.
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How is the battery life ? Also the 800mhz wake and undervolt are those part of sp3 or extra steps you did ?
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battery life is about 24h of normal use.
I always connected to wifi.
oh, and I replace LG Home Launcher with Xperia Launcer.
it's lighter, no lag even use lower clock speed.
So just inherited my dads OG Droid. Currently rooted and runs Steel Droid (Mod Version 9000) and 2.6.32.9_RZ Kernel.
Phone is overclocked to 1GHz (125/1000 ONDEMAND).
Like the title says, the phone gets about 5 hours and then hit's 5% and keeps asking me to charge. If I charge it overnight and unplug it when it's 100%, it'll hit 90% idling (while I sleep) about 3 hours later.
Running Programs:
DSPManager
Words Free
Facebook
3D Digital Weather Cloc
News & Weather
3G Watchdog
Videos
SoundHound
Pandora
Temp+CPU V2
Now out of all the running apps, Pandora, Soundhound, News & Weather, 3G Watchdog, Temp+CPU, 3D Digital Clock are all widgets. Temp+CPU and 3D Digital clock are the only ones that actually run, the rest are just there in case I want to use them.
These stats today are from using Pandora for about an hour over Wifi.
Any ideas? Phone runs fine most of the time but I have seen the occasional lag where you have to click something 10 times before it opens.
I used to have a pretty big problem with battery life too, but even though I think they are somewhat silly and annoying the Easy Battery Saver app helped me quite a bit.
Wifi and using the speakers are heavy on battery life. Not sure how much difference it will make but try consolidating your widgets and app shortcuts to as few screens as possible.
Also your CPU governor might be set to something that lets the phone hog through anything at the sacrifice of battery. When i set my CPU to Performance my phone runs like a boss, while setting it to battery saver I get a little more lag but more battery, obviously. Not sure how/if your ROM will let you change that but it's something to look into.
I got it set to On Demand which might be the issue. The kernel is a low voltage kernel. How do ultra low voltage kernels run?
I did a battery calibration, downloaded Advanced Task Killer (Battery saver didn't work well, I'd always have an issue with 3G not activating) and got rid of all my widgets. Currently charging it up completely, I'll check it out tomorrow.
So the title is incorrect, it says 5 hours and 5% left. I checked the battery info at 5%. It said 4hr 4x min. About 10 minutes later it shut off so I didn't even get 5 hours to a full charge.
I don't have high expectations but coming from an Alias 2 that had the extended battery (I'd get a week of battery with my use), this is pretty disappointing.
Well I can tell you now, ondemand is NOT good for battery, what that governor does is make it so the CPU will go from MIN to MAX speed slots depending on what the phone needs, AFAIK it doesn't scale with need, it just goes to max. So your phones CPU was running at max most the time which kills battery.
Can't say anything about your ROM, but I use simply stunning 5.6 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/chevyno1/177728-ss-5-6-2-3-7-incl-1-battery-other-goodies.html Which, with his low voltage 1ghz kernel set to the smartass governor, I get anywhere from 8-14 hours of battery life depending on use. Using ultra low voltage kernels depend on your phone, some phones have trouble overclocking to 800mhz mid-voltage (mid-voltage is considered to be the most stable, but use the most battery), others can overclock to 1.25ghz ultra-low voltage, which is very rare. I would say try out all the different voltage kernels and see which one works best with your phone.
Also task killer = MAJOR MAJOR No no! The task killer will kill the apps, and the android OS will restart them, using more CPU time and making the battery actually not last as long, I would recommend learning how to use the supercharger script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Can't say much about the majority of programs you have running, but I've found facebook does not like to play nice with the Droid, also, why use the 3D clock when the Droid comes with a built in-clock app? Pandora uses a lot of battery, so running it w/ the ondemand governor is probably what hurt your battery there.
Not many Droid users left out there, but I was and still am an extremely avid Droid user, so if you have any more questions just shoot me a PM and I'll help as much as I can.
Thanks! I got rid of all my widgets and installed Chevy's ultra low voltage 1.1GHz kernel on smartass. I lost 20% battery pretty fast but let's see how long it runs. I've had no force close issues so far. I'm a bit tempted to go to 1.2GHz ulv.
How much does the ROM have to do with battery life? I really love this ROM and it's interface. I thought the battery life really only had to do with kernels.
I also got rid of the clock widget and put a default clock widget. What's the built in Android one? Is that the "Analog Clock"?
Sorry for all these questions, I'm pretty new to Android. Only had this for 2 days (~8-10 recharges...)
Its fine, better to question and learn then to just get mad and over it, and Roms have everything to do with battery, they are just like kernels, some work AMAZING on some phones, while others can destroy battery life.
Like my rom, I found the perfect one for my phone, I get 8- (been thinking about it more) 20 hours of battery life on mine and it has pretty amazing performance too with the occasional hiccup.
And I thought you had the clock app installed for an alarm, not for a widget, my bad. I don't use a clock widget so I wouldn't know.. Also, I've found its not very good to run many widgets on the Droid, as it has limited memory and can only handle so much.
Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?
I have been an Android owner for a while now, with the Droid being my first. Until recently battery life had always been an issue for me. Undervolting has never had an effect over a 20% improvement. And this is only when it's in deep sleep. Otherwise, in very general terms, undervolting can require a higher current aka worse battery life if you use your phone a lot. With undervolting comes the risk of data corruption in your phones memory and SD Card. What really kills your phone is screen on time, wakelocks, CPU overclock, and signal quality.
The last you have no control of. But if you're overclocking 1GHz or higher you have to realize that's almost twice the manufactured clock speed. As far as wakelocks, this is when something keeps your phone from going into a low power state. This can happen because of a rogue app, a buggy ROM, or having too many widgets. I ran into a ROM a while ago on my Fascinate that would stay awake if you had GPS enabled. The best you can do with your display power usage is to keep your brightness down. Hope this explains a few things
have the same issue
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Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?
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I already told you, the smartass governor, and like I said before, ondemand is not a good governor in my opinion. There are way to many factors in battery life to have anyone else be able to truly help you with it, all our phones are different and it really just takes time switching kernels, switching ROMs, etc to find what works with your phone
Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.
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Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.
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Don't forget not many roms have the default android interface, many have themes to completely change the look, if your happy where your phone is, great! But if you ever feel like your phone is slowing down again, I'd still recommend looking around and flashing some different roms.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm only using this phone for another couple months. I'll be getting the Droid 4 when it comes out. Looks like a really nice phone.