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Hi!
I am quite new to all this! I am searching and reading about Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
I would want to setup an account, in Mobile Outlook, that connects to the Microsoft Exchange Server.
If I use my PC or VAIO, I can acccess my account through a web based address but cannot successfully send Japanese langauge emails to Japanese mobile devices. Japanese PC/notebooks are OK.
But I can send and receive perfectly when using Outlook 2007 on my PC or VAIO...
This aspect is the most imprortant issue for me. Is it possible and easy ! To setup such an account in Mobile Outlook ?
I am also aware that using Vodafone to do this could also be very expensive and data charges would mount up.
Any advice appreciated.
Ofiaich
The issue is not your device. You have to make sure that the Exchange Server is setup for mobile access.
http://exchangeserver/oma or https://exchangeserver/oma
where exchangeserver is the name of your exchange server
See if you can access either of the above, that's the first step. If your server requires SSL certificate then you have to install that to your device (I keep a copy of the certificate on my SD card so when I hard reset or get a new device that's the first thing I install).
It requires a pretty close relationship with the Exchange Server IT guys (in my case I have my own exchange server). One option is to use a hosted exchange service.
Let me know if you need more specifics
thanks very much jcrompton!
I had a bit of a hard time setting up Outlook 2007 to connect to the Exchange Server because the university, where the server is ??, only had info for Outlook 2002, 2003. Some differences.
If I buy the TyTn II it will be my first experience with a Windows Mobile device. I will also want to put Japanese input etc on it !
Currently, I use a SE W950i with Japanese support but only accessing Vodafone email. Not good.....
I will also talk to the Exchange Server IT guys!
Any further advice would be appreciated because, some of the senior IT guys at the university often say that will only support what they feel is necessary. One even said, don't need to check emails using a mobile device ! Strange guy.....
Ofiaich
Yes it can really be a bit difficult if the IT guys are not willing participants. I had some difficulties even owning my own server.
I have a Microsoft MVP (Bob Lin) who helps me remotely with issues on the Exchange Server - he charges $95 per hour.
I would tell the IT guys that they may have an opportunity to learn somethings if they will be willing to work with you.
First make sure you can access /oma via the web and see if they require SSL to connect - that will tell you if they have OutlookMobileAccess already configured or not and whether you will need a certificate installed on your mobile device.
jcrompton!
thanks very much for your quick reply!
This morning, I got the usual comment from the university IT staff, we are not an internet providor, we do not support Palm, Windows Mobile.. etc...
I will push this further but I still cannot get them to support Japanese 'perfectly' on the university server !
but I have remembered I can set an rule in my account to forward email on to another account. So I could just use my Vodafone account!
Thanks for your time and help! I will battle on with this!
Ofiaich
If you decide to do the forwarding thing I think there is a guy out there who is allowing access to his exchange server as a free service - of course he takes donations. You could then just forward your email to that Exchange Server and then take advantage of the instant email abilities of your device.
The other option is a hosted Exchange Service but that's not free.
port88.org
jcrompton said:
If you decide to do the forwarding thing I think there is a guy out there who is allowing access to his exchange server as a free service - of course he takes donations. You could then just forward your email to that Exchange Server and then take advantage of the instant email abilities of your device.
The other option is a hosted Exchange Service but that's not free.
port88.org
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Try http://live.mail2web.com, it is a free hosted exchange service.
Thanks very much jcrompton and palmop !
My problem with a web based service is that Japanese is not supported well. I just registered at http://live.mail2web.com and sent some tests but some, but not all of the returned tests did not display Japanese, just a row of ????????
My way of accessing email at the moment, is to use my University Exchange server, but that does not send mail in Japanese to Japanese mobile phones and other mobile devices, but it does send correctly to PC's , for example Hotmail read on a PC.
My 100% successful way. is to use a small VAIO notebook VGN-TX51B and Outlook 2007. Occasionally I use a W950i as a modem, but often use WiFi or a LAN line.
Mail, in Japanese, to and from mobile devices, PC's and Mac's all are OK, but it is not always convenient to carry my VAIO around even though it is small
What I hoped to do with the TyTn-II was to setup an exchange account in Mobile Outlook, in the same way, as I did on my Desktop PC and VAIO.
But the university support staff are not forthcoming....
I do not have any experience of Windows Mobile 6 Professional! Time to search and read more !
Oh! I also know I would need to install a Japanese font and have read Asukal's information here, and at http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=171045&page=2 and also at http://www.ookii.org/software/japaneseinput/
Ofiaich
In general syncing with exchange is a breeze... if the server has been setup to work with mobile devices (you do not need to enter in the owa or oma extension listed above). If exchange has been setup to support mobile devices (which is likely the case) you don't even need your IT department
under comm manager click activesync, then menu, then configure server, enter in the exchange server address (not http you can find this from your outlook), put in username, pw and domain, check want you want to sync, schedule, and that is it your done. The only issue may run into is a secure certificate issue (very uncommon) if so just post and a solution will be provided.
aaronsmckee!
thanks very much for your help!
I have a new question,,,, does adding an exchange server account mean a continuous connection to the exchange server, and thus the potential of huge data charges ?
I actually haven't got a TyTn-II yet because I wanted to research about this and also Japanese support before buying one !
But I can understand what you are saying. I have setup Palms, Japanese OS VAIO and all sorts !
Just Windows Mobile is new to me!
I will check out the security certificate issue and post if there is a problem !
Now I will read about installing Japanese input etc!
Thanks very much !
Ofiaich !
ofiaich said:
additional qustion aaronsmckee!
thanks very much for your help!
I have a new question,,,, does adding an exchange server account mean a continuous connection to the exchange server, and thus the potential of huge data charges ?
I actually haven't got a TyTn-II yet because I wanted to research about this and also Japanese support before buying one !
But I can understand what you are saying. I have setup Palms, Japanese OS VAIO and all sorts !
Just Windows Mobile is new to me!
I will check out the security certificate issue and post if there is a problem !
Now I will read about installing Japanese input etc!
Thanks very much !
Ofiaich !
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I agree with the advice that you have gotten. You don't need to use owa oma extensions like I mentioned when setting up the Mobile Outlook but if you can succesfully navigate to them on the handheld browser (or any other browser for that matter that is an indication that Outlook Mobile Access has been setup on the Exchange Server). What I do KNOW is that if the IT department has not specifically set out to set up thier server to work with mobile active sync it will NOT work. It took quite a bit of work to get my server working with active sync! I agree the certificate is a whole differnt issue but I suspect that a University does have SSL connection to their server enabled which will require a certificate on your device!
You have the ability to set the Mobile device to connect to the server at intervals, manually , or "as items arrive" - the latter maintains a connection to the server so you have emails arrive on your device immediately.
I hope we are helping you.
Hi jcrompton!
Yes, everyone is very helpful here !!
What I need to do now, is to decide if the TyTn II is for me, because it might mean my VAIO does not get used. I use a W950i but the email via Vodafone often crashed as I input Japanese.
Next, I need to be clear about reading and inputting Japanese on the TyTn II
And then find the bEst place to buy it in the UK!
But yes, everyone is very helpful here !!
Ofiaich
If you are interested in using Exchange 2007 for your mobile device, I have one available. It is for my consulting business and I am only using 1 of the 100 CAL's that are installed. For a small donation, I will let honest people use it. I would require the following info.
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested: [email protected]
Alias: [email protected]
Password: (must contain letters, numbers and special characters)
The server itself is in a datacenter with reduntant power and network.
It has a UCC cert and autodiscover services are working perfect.
Since I use it for my business the uptime will be in at least the 4 nines.
Just send me a PM if interested.
While this sounds great, there are some concerns that I would have as outlined below. None of this is personal btw.
a.) Backups, how would this be handled
b.) Security, how do I know as an admin your not attaching to mailboxes or journaling them and reading through private information?
c.) Anti Virus, how is the server protected to keep my data safe
d.) Anti Spam, this is easy since you can implement the built in Anti Spam services on a Hub Transport server. However how would an end user control this?
e.) SSL Certificate is cheap through Go Daddy, you could offset this cost with your user donations. That way there is no need to import an self signed cert.
f.) Up time, where is the server located? in a Data Center or your garage?
g.) domains, would you support users as [email protected] or would you allow users to point their MX records at your IP while adding smtp aliases to the AD user accounts?
I'm sure there are others, and again this is in no way a personal attack as I think offering this for little cost is a very nice thing to offer. It however could wind up being a hand full if enough users decide to accept.
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ld-runner said:
I am thinking about opening up my exchange 2007 server to users here that would be interested in the service. after trying places like mail2web and other types of hosting services, i realized i could do the same thing for myself and have total control. trouble is, now i have this massive server to sync my device all by itself...
if anyone would be insterested in syncing with an exchange 2007 server, let me know. I wanted to get some initial feedback from users to see if it was even worth it.
I was thinking of a donation type system to offset the licensing cost...(which i get for dirt cheap since I can piggy back off one of major customers...it is about $16 per user...)
i could offer active sync, rpc over http and owa...
i do not want to buy a third party cert, so my microsoft issued cert would need to be installed on your device (it means you have to double click on a .cer file)
i did not configure autodiscovery services, so rpc over http would need to be configured manually. (very simple)
i could also offer outlook 2007 for a very small fee (since i did not configure rpc over http for outlook 2003 use)
just send me an email and tell me if you are interested. I am thinking if I get enough people, i will open it up for the great people here at xda forums..
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all very good questions and i will answer them as best as possible.
a.) the backups are handled at the disk layer, they are mirrored. If corruption would occur, the server would get rebuilt. as a very cheap service offering, you get what you pay for. That said, since i personally use this server and my customers contact me via it, if it goes down, i may not get paid. therefore, its availbilty is very important.
b.) you don't, but i won't
c.) trend micro does it on the server, your desktop client would do the rest.
d.) the exchange server spam level is set to level 5. I have never had a false postitive
e.) there is a UCC cert.
f.) datacenter. also, see answer a. uptime = pay to me.
g.) i would allow default from address to be what ever you wanted. i will not host your personal domain. That is another type of service i am not offering.
i have now installed a UCC cert and autodiscovery is working perfectly.
anyone insterested just send me the following info;
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested: [email protected]
Alias: [email protected]
Password: (must contain letters, numbers and special characters)
I only ask for a small donation. anything helps. thanks.
You could also try www.nuevasync.com with Google Calendar / Contacts, and use IMAP for email. It's isn't push, but works pretty well nonetheless. Plus, you don't have to administer it yourself.
Hi, I searched long and hard to see if anybody has found a way (or any application) to do this.
This is what I'm looking for,
I forward all my mails (from 5 diff accounts) to a single gmail account and then authorize this gmail account to send mail from the other accounts.
and I use Identities in Thunderbird to do this on a pc
But I'm looking for a way to do this on a WM6 device. It might be either a tweak or an application.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. As of now I can check all my mails but cannot reply back to them from the intended from address
Hi, I have the chance to buy an unlocked/unbranded Galaxy S, but I need your advice about the following:
a. Exchange Mail/Calendar/Contact sync, this is a deal braker for me, the only experience that I have with android was the Milestone, with the Milestone using the mail program or TouchDown was imposible to make my exchange account work, mail worked sometimes, calendar and contact never.
My company use Exchange 2010 with enforced security, I have no problems using it on my symbian devices (E71 and now N97 mini), of course WinMo phones also work without problem the same as iPhone (my wife work with me and her iPhone works), I have no partners with android phones to check with them. Asking anything to my IT is not an option, my company is large (+250K employees) and they won´t make exceptions.
b. Can I use hotmail via IMAP or only POP? (please, don´t suggest to use Gmail, I also use Gmail but need access to Hotmail)
c. My country is not android market "friendly", any experience using Market Enabler to access the market and buying on it?
Many many thanks for your answers. Regards.
I can only answer to C:
Use MarketAccess:
http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
And Eris Market Fix (found in Android Market, to see the protected apps).
I have been using these on 2.1 and now 2.2 and they are working perfectly.
So glad that I have been able to buy apps!
I can only reply to b:
imap works with the stock client but you're better off with K9 from the market (it's free) as it supports imap push and works well.
For b. you can use gmail (a. I'm not sure but you can try it)
Let me explain:
On gmail Settings > Accounts and Import
In Send mail as:
Click on Send mail from another adress (follow the steps)
Then under:
Check mail using POP3:
Click on Add POP3 email account (follow the steps)
Now you will be able to recieve and send message from and to your hotmail account.
If you don't want to do it this way look on community.seven.com for their mail app
NB! Your company Exchange administrators could (and should) in any time to exclude any phone OS to synchronize according to the company policy for security or another reason.
Question a:
- this should not be possible in the Eclair native eMail application (version 2.1 of Android). This might be possible in paid applications, if they have full MAPI compatibility.
- this should be better possible in the Froyo (version 2.2 of Android). Don't know if it works out of box, but...:
Exchange support
Improved security with the addition of numeric pin or alpha-numeric password options to unlock device. Exchange administrators can enforce password policy across devices.
Remote wipe: Exchange administrators can remotely reset the device to factory defaults to secure data in case device is lost or stolen.
Exchange Calendars are now supported in the Calendar application.
Auto-discovery: you just need to know your user-name and password to easily set up and sync an Exchange account (available for Exchange 2007 and higher).
Global Address Lists look-up is now available in the Email application, enabling users to auto-complete recipient names from the directory.
Exchange information from http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html.
there is also TouchDown 2.0 (paid) for Android that is vastly improved over TouchDown 1.0
back to hotmail account, it works great with the Samsung push Email & IM program, i have all my hotmail accounts real & fake ones all running simultaneously.
but as metioined above if you'd like more funtionality then you might be better off with K9 (free) mail app.
AllGamer said:
there is also TouchDown 2.0 (paid) for Android that is vastly improved over TouchDown 1.0
back to hotmail account, it works great with the Samsung push Email & IM program, i have all my hotmail accounts real & fake ones all running simultaneously.
but as metioined above if you'd like more funtionality then you might be better off with K9 (free) mail app.
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the samsung modified email app push works for you? I only checked with the stock firmware i had (JF3) and didn't have push for imap
btw: i'm personally not a lot in favor of importing stuff to gmail. that's embrace and extend at it's best: they read all data for their statistics. So ok it's a google os with a lot of such stuff but i'd rather separate some things when possible. (note:k9 is giving full satisfaction, just wondering about stock)
yes i'm using the Samsung Push Email as my main email app for all my email accounts, including google
4 accounts from hotmail
3 accounts from yahoo
12+ accounts from gmail
i hardly use my PC for email now since i got the phone, it's amazing!
Many thanks to all, one thing that Android doesn´t lack is user´s support. Since the N8 is delayed again I ordered the Galaxy S to give it a try.
I can respond in general that if you going to use Galaxy frequently with GPS, WIFI, Email then carry your charger or USB plug.
I found that even with light usage the battery needs to be charged everyday which I find it that I cant use it as my main phone as I travel a lot and I need more than 2 day with light usage of phone.
Well, I haven't seen anyone successfully replace the NC contacts app with the generic Android one, but I found something almost as good ... if you're willing to pay.
If you download Touchdown for Exchange from the market (demo version, have to pay to use it for more than 30 days), you can set up your gmail address as an exchange account (login is the full e-mail address, server is m.google.com). It'll sync contacts w/the Exchange server ... and by default, sync those with your "phone's' contact list.
I've tried it, and confirmed autocomplete for contacts now works in gmail.
Some caveats:
* While Touchdown can handle more than one exchange account, it does so with "profiles." You switch between them -- and when you're in one profile, you'll only have access to the contacts from that one. I've got my phone set up with both my personal gmail and my office's google apps account ... so now I'm using Soocial to sync their contacts (non-ideal), and having touchdown just bring down the office stuff.
* You'll want to tweak your e-mail settings to minimize how much data you're having the device get. No need to pull down your inbox again if gmail already is. I have it set not to get message bodies, to sync the minimum amount of days, etc.
* It's a paid app, so you'll have to pony up the cash. And although I'd previously purchased a license key via the market on my phone, I'm not seeing the option for the license key (protected app unsupported by the current market hack?) showing up in the market for my NC. You can also enter a license key, but I'll be trying copying over my valid key from my phone and seeing what happens ...
Nice:
* It handles the calendar well as well ... so no need to bring in the Calendar.apk or CorpCalendar.apk if you don't want to.
Soocial non-ideal
Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)
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Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)
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I juist wasn't really looking to have these address books synced in the first place, but I AM looking to access both from my NC, as I do from my Android phone. Since I didn't have a great solution to that, I'm using your product to include all my contacts in both of my address books.
I've used touchdown for about a year now and it's never let me down. Best exchange program hands down. Thanks for the tip to use it to sync Google contacts!
FYI: you can sync only contacts if you choose and the server is m.google.com w/ssl in case anyone needs it.