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I have a new AT&T Tilt, straight out of the box with no modifications. I have it set up to track my Yahoo email account and my AIM account. However, both of them have big problems updating. On AIM, it takes almost a half-hour to receive or send a message after the message is actually sent. The email client is also telling me there are no new emails, even though I actually received emails in that account over four hours ago. I'm using the default IM client for AIM, because I have unlimited SMS with my plan, and I need to have AIM open all the time and be able to receive IMs even when the phone is asleep. I don't see why it should take this long regardless, considering I have three (or at least two) bars on EDGE at all times.
Does anyone else have this problem and/or know how to fix it, is possible? I need to be able to send and receive IMs and e-mails instantly at any time, and if the Tilt can't do that, then I need to find a different phone, which is a shame, because I really like the other features and the phone in general.
are you paying for your internet service?
Yes, I have a plan with unlimited data and SMS.
What is the deal with this phone? I just sent an email and it arrived over three hours later. I am required to have working email for my job, and this can hardly be considered working. What is wrong here? I don't see how all the other working professionals here can possibly be accepting of this and still consider it a good phone if it can't even handle simple email and IM. This is insane, considering no other phone offered by AT&T has this many useful features, and if I have to replace this phone it will certainly be a downgrade.
I don't think anyone else is having the same problems as you, which is why you're not finding anyone agree with your complaints.
Usually if you send an email and it arrives late, it's usually because of etiher the sending or receiving mail server, not because of the sending device. I have confidence that the email got from your phone to the email server just fine, and in a very reasonable amount of time.
Also, is there no 3G in your area?
AIM (instant messaging, not email) has always been delayed on all of the windows mobile devices I have used over the years (& on both Tmobile & at&t).
ATT is much faster than Tmob, but there is still a huge delay. That's why I stopped using IM'ing altogether.
As for emails, I set up an exchange email address on my website because for the last couple of weeks I have been unable to send or receive any emails through my AOL account. I have been going back & forth with AOL's tech support this whole time. My emails worked for a just one day during this whole time, & hasnt worked since! Whenever somebody emails me it tells them my mailbox is full even though I only have 29 emails! I erased all of the messages in my spam, sent & trash folders & still nothing. My AOL is what I have been using for many years for everything, its even on my website & all of my business card!
No as for the delayed messages, you may want to look into Push mail (using an exchange server). Do a search for it here & you'll see there are quite a few solutions (some free, some not). Push mail is essentially "instant" if you set it up that way & have decent reception.
I don't see how there could be problems with the email server, I'm using Yahoo mail, and I can send/receive emails fine with my PC, but if I email someone from my phone it take hours for them to get it, and if I receive an email, it takes hours for it to show up on the phone (though it still appears in my inbox instantly if I access it from my PC).
DJayRage, I'm not talking about delayed IMs, I'm talking about it would be FASTER for me to get in my car, drive across the state and tell them personally.
Also, I was told there was 3G in my area, but whenever I scan for service it auto-connects to EDGE, so I assume that's not the case.
I wish I could blame this on something other than my phone, but when it doesn't work, and nobody else is having this problem, I don't see what else there is to blame. Everything on my phone is stock. I'm using the Xpress mail thing or whatever it's called, and the 3-in-1 IM client that comes with the phone, so there aren't any 3rd party mods or anything that could be interfering.
Oh that may be your problem (Xpress mail). When I purchased my Tilt a couple of month's ago the ATT salesman told me not to use it because they've had nothing but problems with it. He wasn't specific, & I didn't ask what problems they were having. I use the built in mail app & that works fine for me. I get my Gmail, my Push mail & my AOL (when it's working) through there with no problems.
How do I do that? On the phone and in the instruction manual it said I needed to get the Xpress mail to check my yahoo mail. Also, do you think that using the built-in AIM client is what is causing the slowness, and that a 3-rd party app would work better?
Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
I never even opened up the manual that came with my Tilt. Any questions I had with my device I found answers for them here by searching (hint...)
Have you checked if you have 3G in your area?
I've yet to use the AIM app on my Tilt so I can't help you with that. Everytime I log-in to AIM I get random rappers spamming me trying to get me to check out their music.
How do I check if I have 3G in my area? Whenever I connect to the internet and it says searching for EDGE/3G, it always just connects to EDGE, so I assumed I don't get 3G. It's actually weird because other people have told me that we do get 3G around here.
Where are you located? You can check here to see if your area has 3G
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.jsp
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Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
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When I push the envelope button, it brings me to the same thing it brings me for my old email account. There is no Tools option in the menu, and when I click the new account button on the screen, it gives me the same setup I went through to set up my current account after installing the xpress mail thing. There is also no option in the options menu for the s&r every 5 mins or the other thing, either.
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i use im+ for iming. Its realtime and im on edge network with T-Mobile and no delays.
as for the email... maybe your push setting is at every few hours?
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Sorry for the delayed response but I'm still not getting my aol emails, which is what I registered on here with. Can you install Capsure (free app that you will find here with a quick search) & send me a screen shot of what your email inbox looks like? I never used Xpress mail, but it sounds like Xpress Mail took over the Envelope button so it goes there instead of the WM6 Inbox (default).
You may try reassinging it start > settings > personal > buttons > (mine shows button 2 assigned to "messaging", what does yours show?).
PS my email address that you can send the screen shot to is rage at djayrage.com
By the way there's an ATT store by my job & the sales guys come into the building I work at all the time (dropping off phones to clients) so I asked one of the them the other day more details about Xpress Mail (this was the same guy that sold me my phone & told me NOT TO use Xpress Mail).
He said Xpress Mail fetches your emails, stores it somewhere on ATT's server's, & then eventually "pushes" it to your device. (Opposite operation for emails being sent). So that may be what is causing the lengthy delays. You may have new emails sitting in your email providers inbox, but they may not be on Xpress Mail's servers yet.
Just use the default Messaging application & cut out the middle man (Xpress Mail).
Well, it was set to messaging, so I guess it wasn't using Xpress Mail after all, regardless, I uninstalled Xpress Mail, deleted my email account, and added it again, so hopefully it will work better this time.
I will also try IM+ as well and see if it works better.
Any updates? How's your emails working now?
Hi Guys!
I've search the forums to find the best solution there is for Push Email, but I haven't been able to find much. I do not have an exchange server myself, so I'm looking for a service or something of that sort.
I signed up for MobiPush, and it works great, but the only issue I have is that my ActiveSync always stays on, and keeps my GPRS connection active 24/7. Is that how it should be? Isn't that a battery drain, is there a better way to do it?
Thanks! and apologies if someone has asked this before!
Go for/to: www.mail2web.com
Free service! Very good and stable.
If you want a connection in MS Outlook you have to pay but its worth the money in my opion.
Succes!
Thanks I'll check it out.
When you check via ActiveSync, does your GPRS connection always stay active?
No. But is is a opion in KaiserTweak to keep connection alive. Is a hit for your battery!
Yeah..I don't want it to stay alive..i think its pointless for it to stay alive all the time!
My KaiserTweak is set at 1 Min for disconnection, but it doesnt really disconnect the connection!
jatin.ahuja said:
Yeah..I don't want it to stay alive..i think its pointless for it to stay alive all the time!
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If you find it pointless to stay alive all the time, why you wanna have pushmail then?
well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
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well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
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There is a way - an SMS can be sent to tell you that there is a new message.
I use push email (www.exchangemymail.com - not the cheapest, but it does have postini filtering...) and find that battery life is OK, but I typically charge mine in my car an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening, that's all I need and I have 3G on all day.
jatin.ahuja said:
well..i do want push email...because of work..but I was hoping there would be a way it would disconnect the GPRS and then reconnect it when there was a new mail..hehe somehow!
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Microsoft offers push email through their Live Services. I have a @live.com account and get push email,but again,it seems activesync is always connected and Kaiser tweaks will not help. And the battery takes a big hit. Also, you better have an unlimited data plan or your wallet will take a big hit too.
Read this article (about half way down)[1] It explains how the mobile Phone sync with the exchange server. In essence a http connection is kept open at all times. It used to be (in 5.0/exchange 2003 times) that the connection with the mobile was an SMS sent from the server. That means that every email cost you 1 SMS. Depending on your plan that can be very expensive)
It goes through this cycle:
1.) mobile http request to exchange server with timeout info
2.) exchange server checks for new mail
----> no new mail: server waits until timeout then send an empty reply. The mobile then starts anew at 1.)
----> mail arrives before timeout: server sends the the reply immediately with information which folders to sync. After syncing the whole process starts at 1.) again
Short answer: Yes your GRPS connection will have to be always on BUT if there is no mail there is only a minimal amount of data used. Also using a 6.1 rom helps a lot with battery life (at least in my experience).
[1] http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4638
waht about mobipush!? ist free an it works!
I use SEVEN mail. It's the actual product behind cingular's ExpressMail, but you can get a newer version by joining the beta (neverending, it seems) for Seven at http://preview.seven.com
I too use the Seven product. It ROCKS!!!
Seven makes my phone sluggish
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I use SEVEN mail. It's the actual product behind cingular's ExpressMail, but you can get a newer version by joining the beta (neverending, it seems) for Seven at http://preview.seven.com
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Thank you all for the response! and sorry for the delay!
I installed Seven and I feel its a lot better than MobiPush, but I feel like when I click the Messages tab on my phone (from HTC Home), it takes forever to open it up!
Do you guys feel that too?
For some a better puch mail soultion
If you have gmail or any other email account that allows you to set it to automatically forward email. And if you have unlimited text messaging on your phone plan then the solution I use might be useful for those who want a push email function.
There is a small program called QoreFunctions Pusheffect. Its for WM devices and this is part of the solution. You can find this online to purchase
In general here is how it works. Your cell service provider offers you a email address that takes emails in but delivers them as text messages on your phone.
1. In your normal email provider set it to forward every email you get to the email address that your phone provider delivers emails as text messages.
2. Install and configure Push effect according to the instructions they offer and your done.
Here's what happens. Email hits your regular email account. That forwards email to your cell phone text message account. A text message arrives on your phone. Push effect reads the text message and can tell it came because there is email waiting in your regular email account. It then triggers your mobile email to connect and pick up your email from your regular account.
This all happens in just a few seconds after the mail hits your regular email account.
The benefits are it works with Lot's of email services and does not require exchange in any way. It also is not polling your email account so no extra drain on your battery
I love it and it works great!!!
www.emoze.com
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jatin.ahuja said:
but I feel like when I click the Messages tab on my phone (from HTC Home), it takes forever to open it up!
Do you guys feel that too?
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That has nothing to do with push mail. That's just a bug or something in HTC Home. Try clicking the Messaging icon in Programs or mapping a hardware button to it. You will see how fast the messaging application comes up. But for some reason when you try and invoke messaging from that icon in HTC Home it takes several seconds. I don't know why.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440
the same sms technique was developed by a fellow xda developer and offered for free! try it, it works great. best to have unlimted text and data though if you go this route. also means you dont need to have your data connection on all the time, save battery!
set up kaiser tweaks so your data connection disconnect after every xx minutes. set your email to forward new mail to your SMS address. when you get the notification of new mail on your device, it launches poutlook and checks your mail. then after xx minutes your connection turns off. works great! connection only when new mail comes in.
in the program there is a simple config you have to set up so the program knows which sms notification to trigger poutlook so it doesnt open outlook on all sms notifications you have. usually notifications that are for new mail have specific text in the subject and body and you can use that to distinguish emailed forwarded sms from regular sms you get from friends.
cehck the thread i posted for screen shots of the program, its easier then my discriptions makes it look! haha: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440
the only other way to use it without sms is to have your connect on at all times. there's a trade off and depends which route you want to go.
Seven notification alerts!
Hi Everyone!
Thanks for all your help! So I've started using Seven, and everytime I get an email, I have a little red icon on my taskbar (on top) and my phone vibrates. Is there a way to turn these notifications off?
Thanks!
Jatin
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
Where do you get an exchange account?
CutePinkSox said:
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
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so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
helpme said:
so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
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Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
gaz_az said:
This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
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I could do but let me explain I have to email accounts:
1x Hotmail - which is push enabled anyway as per any hotmail account with a little tinkering
1x Googlemail which is my primary email address - I also use google calendar and contacts.
So Emansio is pushing Googlemail and OggSync is syncing Google Calender and contacts... this seems so far a flawless combo with hardly any overheads in terms of memory and CPU.
I am not that familiar with exchange - will exchange cater to all my needs?
I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
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I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
Go to windows live on your pc and sign in to your live (hotmail) account, then on the top right hand side there is 'options', at the bottom of that list there is 'more options', under the heading Manage your account, one of the options is 'forward to another email account'
Sergio PC said:
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
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1. It depends, some exchange hosts charge a monthly charge, some like mail2web have both free and charged services. However, you obviously have to pay for the data, just like any other kind of data service. If you are on an unlimited data tariff, this won't worry you.
2. No idea how it works (I don't know how my car works either, just as long as it goes when I turn the key I don't care)!
Hotmail Push email
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
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Basically sign into windows live on your Diamond then goto options choose "sync schedule" then set it to "as items arrive" and volia free push hotmail...
The advantage of doing this will mail2web is that you can get all your mail pushed to you from all your accounts. Saves fiddling about with lots of mail boxes on the device. But I'm sure some people would prefer to keep them separate.
Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Same concern!
Call me dumb, but I use yahoo mail and every time I get a new email it pops up on my email tab, I've set it to check every hour, you can set it for less if you get more emails than me(5 x pink diet patch and 20 x penis extension, both not required). I have a nice unlimited data plan but why would anyone who has a diamond not? If you have a diamond in my opinion you must have an unlimited data plan, otherwise you are just not getting the full benefits of such a beautiful device and should roll back to the awesome old magician.
Yes it can drain battery...
You shoudn't have push email just for the sake of having it...
...yes Emansio always maintains a constant data connection as does push Hotmail... and naturally this will shorten the battery life somewhat in addition to that if you don't have an unlimited data plan then your fooked... but if your out and about and regularly use email for business or personal then push email is for you.
I stop it when I am out shopping etc as there is no need for it but if I need to be contacted easily via email then I activate Emansio.
For those who wan't to find out how it works... cmon guys you have the net and presumably a Diamond with Opera LOL - www.google.com need I say more.
OggSync is great for Google Calendar BTW
This is also new out in beta for those wanting to sync google mail and calendar. Don't know anything about it but might help someone.
http://www.nuevasync.com/
Hi,
Nuevasync looks interesting: Unfortunately it's not supporting email yet.
Emansio: Agree, it's the only push plugin which works fine (e.g. in sleep mode etc). BUT: It's expensive and it ssupports the main email folder only. The meaning of Imap is having the folder structure on the server, so I expect such a tool to inform about every new email in every folder I subscribed to.
According to Emansio support this feature is currently worked on and might be available later in 2008.
Cheers,
Kingshill
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Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
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correct me if I am wrong but Emansio only support push mail but not calanda and contact, right?
Hey all, first time poster here. Just bought a Fuze the other day, loving it thus far - but AT&T is gay in regards to their texting, $20/mo for unlimited texting on top of $30/mo for unlimited bandwidth. I have the unlimited bandwidth, but only $5/mo texting. (200 text messages)
My question is, like the title suggests, out of all the Google apps listed on their mobile page, which ones use messaging and not bandwidth? Specifically, I want to know about Gmail - but I also want to know if any of their other apps use messaging, too. I was playing with the maps part last night with the traffic option turned on, and it's so pimp I nearly had to change my pants. I need to make sure stuff I want to use doesn't sit and use text messages, though. I found Palgrino in another thread here for non-messaging IM services and that's a pretty tight app, but I want something to check email with. (could also use an app to check non-Gmail email with that only uses bandwidth, but I'm guessing I can find that via search, haven't tried yet)
Thanks in advance
Congratulations on your purchase. Hope you're happy with it. I think only the default AT&T "instant messaging" program uses text messages. Another revenue opportunity, I guess.
Palringo is my preferred instant messaging program. I switched to it precisely because it only uses data.
As for Gmail, it is - in my opinion - easier to access it via IMAP using the Messaging program. It integrates into the operating system much better. If you need instructions, they should be somewhere in these forums or on the Gmail website.
If the person your "texting" with has accesss to gmail too, they can send you either sms' (youd still have to pay) from gmail. OR do what i did till i turned on texting. Set your IMAP gmail to check every 5 mins.
free texting
Now on N6 coming from Note 3 I miss the touchwiz mail... Well it had an option to only get mail notifications 8-5p M-F and none on weekend. This was for exchange so I don't get company mail
The N6 mail does not have a sync scheduling option like Note 3. Is there a particular app or process that I can find 3rd party to turn sync of mail on/off automatically like listed above?
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Now on N6 coming from Note 3 I miss the touchwiz mail... Well it had an option to only get mail notifications 8-5p M-F and none on weekend. This was for exchange so I don't get company mail
The N6 mail does not have a sync scheduling option like Note 3. Is there a particular app or process that I can find 3rd party to turn sync of mail on/off automatically like listed above?
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I was in the same boat coming from the Note 3. I found that gmail exchange wasn't downloading some huge emails so I tried mail wise and it worked good then I switched to cloud magic. Cloud magic is like gmail exchange and looks like gmail and unfortunately I haven't found any peak adjustments there. I didn't like mail wise interface...it didn't have a material theme.
Use maildroid and you can either modify your notifications or actual connection to the server.
@parcou, I use Nine, it's not free, but for me it's the best exchange client for android, it have that option an more, example: you can combine a peak period using push and a off peak period using pull for x minutes you choose, or off peak never get email, etc...
I thanked you all...
I will begin today trying those apps... I hate to go outside the built-in apps but I really need this function to not have company mail notification all day...
I did not know Gmail had that option when I go setup an account in Gmail only list pop/imap but since not peak time scheduling no worries any way...
Thx for feedback let me begin to test...
Check out Mail Wise. Just learned of it recently and I love it. You can set when to receive alerts etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email