Android 2.1 Sense - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When can we expect a Android 2.1 Sense Rom, I'm talking HTC Desire.

I'm guessing soon after someone gets a good leak.
Dunno the ETA on that, but shouldn't be too long now..
And hey, don't forget about King's Eclair Hero
It's cobbled together from a bunch of rough dumps so sure it has its problems
But that given it's pretty damn slick and will at least give you a good taste
Only really has a few minor issues.

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best daily use HERO ROM

Hey guys, I am a bit tired of donut 1.6 and would like to jump up to hero (because 2.0 is pretty much a dead os, and 2.1 is not at the stage where its dialy use)
I am wondering what your favourite hero rom is (hopefully with a link).
Are there any hero roms which are still updated, and have any hero roms. Come to the point where they are suitable for daily use?
I like MLIGN's with 96mb swap on a class 6 sd, but you just have to try them out for yourself.
I know there is mglin and sense hero. Is eclair hero, hero or eclair?
A hero rom is basically a rom with a custom UI that HTC calls sense.
Most of the hero roms here are based on android 1.5 (Cupcake) Like MLIGN's.
Eclair hero is android 2.1 (or 2.0, but I am pretty sure it is 2.1) with HTC's sense UI. I have no experience using this rom.
Lol "Jump up to hero" From a 1.6 ROM?
more like fall down a huge cliff but yeah MLIGN is one of the best ways to go.
running V3.3 now and loving it.
lol, i havent tried a hero rom and would need to make my own kernal for it so i wanted to know which was the best before jumping in, i guess ill go with that one then.
What exactly do you mean by jumping down rather than up, i know the speed will be less what else?
asb123 said:
lol, i havent tried a hero rom and would need to make my own kernal for it so i wanted to know which was the best before jumping in, i guess ill go with that one then.
What exactly do you mean by jumping down rather than up, i know the speed will be less what else?
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Nah its that you said you wanna jump up to a Hero rom that's not 2.1 from a 1.6 rom.Normal hero Rom's are 1.5 so its more like jumping down then up. there arent really many differences. Hero ROM's are pretty quick so that's not gunna be an issue.
Macrophage001 said:
Lol "Jump up to hero" From a 1.6 ROM?
more like fall down a huge cliff but yeah MLIGN is one of the best ways to go.
running V3.3 now and loving it.
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I like jcarzz more. although its bugging me out all of a sudden!
Personally, I had bad luck with MLIGN. But maybe that's just me. It ran fine for awhile, then I started getting random freezeups and reboots up the ass. Tried a wipe and reflash, ext repair, etc, but alas, no luck. But I'm also running a Class 2 SD card so maybe that's what did me in. I'm sure MLIGN is a great ROM
I'm using SenseHero 1.4, with BFS 300 + RAM Hack, and so far I'm nothing but pleased . No random lockups or reboots yet, everything's veryy smooth and I haven't had the loadscreen for Rosie come up at all yet (aside from initial boot, of course).
Current continuous uptime is at something like 15 hours right now (my battery died this morning - I've been using the ROM for a few days now).
Bottom line though -- ya just gotta try em and find what works best for you.
I'd say top contenders are MLIGN, SenseHero, Jac's Hero, and King's Eclair Hero.

Why?

I don't understand why many Developers work on the 2.1 roms when the g1 is no match to the processes of those phones who actually run on them? I know they want the biggest and baddest thing out their on their g1 but it doesn't even have a match towards the droid or the legend. Why don't devs perfect something that is closer to the Ram and rom of the g1? Hero isnt that far off but it seems that it lost interest when these slower and unstable roms came out.
*I'm not trying to start a flame war but I just don't understand the concept of the reason behind. Nor Am I a dev to talk about what they can/can't do in their own free times. I love all of the work that the DEVs have done towards the community so don't take that against me*
Mast3rmatt said:
I don't understand why many Developers work on the 2.1 roms when the g1 is no match to the processes of those phones who actually run on them? I know they want the biggest and baddest thing out their on their g1 but it doesn't even have a match towards the droid or the legend. Why don't devs perfect something that is closer to the Ram and rom of the g1? Hero isnt that far off but it seems that it lost interest when these slower and unstable roms came out.
*I'm not trying to start a flame war but I just don't understand the concept of the reason behind. Nor Am I a dev to talk about what they can/can't do in their own free times. I love all of the work that the DEVs have done towards the community so don't take that against me*
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It's the demand and it has been like this since Cupcake.
When we all had RC33 we all were dying for Cupcake.
Haykuro came around with an HTC version of it and people loved it!
Then it got old when Donut started to come around and devs were working on that.
Now we have Donut and Eclair is just around the corner. Guess what? Same thing.
There are dozens of Donut roms out there. Why would we want another? The most popular ones would be Cyanogen and SuperD.
Sure there are several Eclair roms but hardly any of them is as stable as our Donut roms. That's why.
This donut is getting stale and moldy, we're baking a batch of eclairs and your wondering why our mouths are watering?

motorola i1 rom??

i was wondering if anyone is going to try and port the ROM from the new Motorola i1 phone its running 1.5 and motoblur im not sure if motoblur would work with our vogues but i think it would be really cool if it did!!
the screen is a 320x240 if that helps at all
ok sorry if I got anyone's hopes up there is no motoblur.. I should have read more... u can close this if you'd like
forever ago (before we had the android forum) i think it was zenulator did a port of motoblur to the vogue so it could def work. but i used it for a little while and it was very laggy
i think the odds of a port are low at this very moment, esp with froyo just announced and all of the 2.1 builds out or in the works the fact that its a cupcake build just seems counter productive.
i know Incubus26jc is messing around with sense tattoo which is a 1.5 but as far as i know the build was already made he was just optimizing it before his vogue bricked
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forever ago (before we had the android forum) i think it was zenulator did a port of motoblur to the vogue so it could def work. but i used it for a little while and it was very laggy
i think the odds of a port are low at this very moment, esp with froyo just announced and all of the 2.1 builds out or in the works the fact that its a cupcake build just seems counter productive.
i know Incubus26jc is messing around with sense tattoo which is a 1.5 but as far as i know the build was already made he was just optimizing it before his vogue bricked
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I'm running the sense its 1.6 BTW its great I just think motoblur is soo cool it would be nice to have and I can't wait for froyo hope it runs well
thoughtlesskyle said:
forever ago (before we had the android forum) i think it was zenulator did a port of motoblur to the vogue so it could def work. but i used it for a little while and it was very laggy
i think the odds of a port are low at this very moment, esp with froyo just announced and all of the 2.1 builds out or in the works the fact that its a cupcake build just seems counter productive.
i know Incubus26jc is messing around with sense tattoo which is a 1.5 but as far as i know the build was already made he was just optimizing it before his vogue bricked
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yeah incubus updated it to 1.6
Let it personal somebody tried to upgrade the system? or anyone tried to do a rom? Please understand that Linux and programming help us.
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Jumped to sense 2.2, better performance than CM 6 rc1

So a coupla days back i decided to try sense 2.2 on my nexus as a joke. just to see how it was. i flashed kingxklicks alpha 3 and i was amazed at how well it performed. even better than cm 6. everything was smoother. sense was beautiful. but it had glitch problems. yesterday i jumped to evils dj droid port. less glitches. faster. and even smoother. its great. the only problems ive had have been with the graphical glitches in some areas. but i dont mind much as the web browser, camera and every other sense feature is worth it. compared to stock cm 6 web browser, the sense froyo one performs just as fast with much better implementation of flash 10.1, meaning when you scroll up and down a page with full flash the flash content follows the html content as it should, it doesnt lag behind. and the scrolling is much smoother. galaxy s live wallpapers even perform better. i dont understand why more effort isnt being put into porting over a perfect version of sense 2.2 from the desire. have you guys tried it? any thoughts?
Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and has a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?
That's right... but I also see his point... I think the right comparison should be between sense and vanilla UI. No doubt CM ROM is awesome, and I believe the browser is even better than stock Vanilla Froyo, yet sense browser still seems better.
I dont think he intended to put CM down, it is a valid question though. It also made me wonder why, not a lot of devs are working on porting the desire 2.2 rom. However, I am also aware that since the nexus didn't run sense to start with, it might be tricky and a lot harder to do.
JCopernicus said:
Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and haes a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?
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JCopernicus said:
Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and has a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?
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lol dont get me wrong. im a hardcore cyanogen fan and have been using his roms constantly since i got my nexus. i love and appreciate his work and effort. but that was just my take on sense compared to cyanogens rc. i am not surprised that it is more refined than a release candidate by a group of hobbyists as much as i am surprised that devs dont take advantage of such a refined rom to perfect it so users have a solid rom that performs the way it should. i was satisfied with rc 1 until a friend of mine got a vibrant and i realized how much less responsive and less polished my rom was from his. i am patiently waiting for a final release of CM 6 to see how that performs compared to sense roms and even the vibrant.
CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.
Our best bet is to wait for Paul's 2.2 desire. It should be coming up soon. I am well content with the vanilla ROMs available right now. But the option to switch between the two would be sweet
carbonfiber1 said:
lol dont get me wrong. im a hardcore cyanogen fan and have been using his roms constantly since i got my nexus. i love and appreciate his work and effort. but that was just my take on sense compared to cyanogens rc. i am not surprised that it is more refined than a release candidate by a group of hobbyists as much as i am surprised that devs dont take advantage of such a refined rom to perfect it so users have a solid rom that performs the way it should. i was satisfied with rc 1 until a friend of mine got a vibrant and i realized how much less responsive and less polished my rom was from his. i am patiently waiting for a final release of CM 6 to see how that performs compared to sense roms and even the vibrant.
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joshlusignan said:
CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.
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No i havent tried pauls 2.2. he requires a premium membership and i cant afford that right now. But yeah ive heard his roms are great.
rjhay22 said:
Our best bet is to wait for Paul's 2.2 desire. It should be coming up soon. I am well content with the vanilla ROMs available right now. But the option to switch between the two would be sweet
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I saw somewhere that a sense froyo frf 91 has been leaked. so i guess thats what well be waiting for
Has HTC even finalized a 2.2 rom? Aren't all of these 2.2 roms leaks anyhow?
I doubt it.
kingklick92's tweet
froyo sense has a new leak: frf91... looks like a rebase may be necessary
about 5 hours ago via web
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joshlusignan said:
CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.
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It's the basic Mac vs PC/Linux thing. You want it to look pretty, or do you want to be able to make it do whatever you want?
This isn't even worth a debate, lets all celebrate the fact we've invested in a platform that allows us these opportunities to say the least. If you can't decide, install both, make nandroid backups of both and alternate at will.
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Alpha3 was a bit too blotchy for my tastes. I do agree that its browser is awesome though. Honestly, after rc1 and millions of nightlies; I'm not looking forward to cm 6.0 final. I appreciate the cm teams full on efforts. They rock! I just can't stand anything other then the stock launcher. I wonder if I'm the only one that feels this way about adw and launcher pro. Their features are nice but what good is it if its gonna freeze, crash or become unresponsive. Thoughts?
sheek360 said:
Alpha3 was a bit too blotchy for my tastes. I do agree that its browser is awesome though. Honestly, after rc1 and millions of nightlies; I'm not looking forward to cm 6.0 final. I appreciate the cm teams full on efforts. They rock! I just can't stand anything other then the stock launcher. I wonder if I'm the only one that feels this way about adw and launcher pro. Their features are nice but what good is it if its gonna freeze, crash or become unresponsive. Thoughts?
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im with you on that one. the launcher was one of the main reasons i left cyanogen. but i flashed my stock launcher2.apk and it wasnt bad. cm 6 is choppy itself for now.
try evils rom. its not bad.
Y'all should try Enoms ROM too. I personally like LP better than ADW and never had FC on it. But enoms stock launcher is great too.
Nah. I'm enjoying stock 2.2. Haven't had one single issue since I flashed it. Very reliable. I hope cm6 gets done up with a stock launcher.
I wonder what cyanogen.. or paul feel about this.. Do you think android developers react to user made modifications? of course. This is why i love my nexus one. I pray google makes a adp3. I love options and im grateful for all the developers doing what they can. DONATE!
After reading this... I may try out Paul's R23, I love CM6, but I wouldn't mind trying out a Sense ROM for a day or so...
Can you choose between LP and ADW when you install CM6?
I'm using Paul's R23 after switching from Enom's. Its definitely smooth and beautiful but really isn't on the same level as Enom's or CM6 (which I used to have). It still has alot of isssues (recording, bt, a2sd), and maybe I was spoiled by the OC'd, UV'd kernels but it just feels slow to me. And can't even compare to the benchmarks I was hiting before in Quadrant.
Its still new though and hopefully progress will be made in these areas.
It would be great to see more than just a couple of devs working on this port.
Just my 0.02.
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[Q] best rom G1?

hi...
last night i ported honeycomb 3.0 on my G1, and was hoping for a special experience, but as tonnes of things failed to work, flashed sense hero v1.5.
i have G1 qwertz, so the keyboard response is not perfect in the rom.
i have tried a number of other roms also. ginger yoshi was nice but had some problem with my network. froyo yoshi-i didnt hoo with that for long....
cm6 was okay...
i am loving the UI of sense rom though...
also, i had bought an extended 2850mAh battery on eBay but i dont think it's performing the way i expected 4-6 hrs at max on these roms
any suggestions??
thanks in advance...
btw, my 1st Qn.....
lol even though it's your first question... there are over 100 posts of people asking the same question... and the same answer applies... depends on the flasher (you)
now you say you like sense roms, only downfall is NO sense rom, i repeat NOOOO sense rom for the G1 has a working camcorder or bluetooth... NONE!!!! lol
k now that i got that out the way...
my suggestions...
1st. my rom of coarse SenseLX (great rom and the team and i keep it up to date and add features here and there for people in need, all you have to do is ask...)
2nd.. gingerbread with sense thisrom is still in development but omg it is amazing!!! trust me just try it you will be impressed... i haven't tested it in a while because i been busy keeping my rom updated but last time i tried it my mind was blown!!!! simply amazing for a G1 lol
3rd... Magic Sense this rom is by namit1994, who was a great help in the development of my SenseLX rom, he recently ported this rom for the G1 and has been busy working on it so you should be impressed with this also if you like sense
besides those 3.. you just have to read around the forums and kinda figure out what you like most... there many varieties of sense roms for the G1, people have worked very hard on these roms so they would appreciate a simple click of the thanks button! lol as would I but yeah so good luck with your rom hunt and dont forget to thank the developers for all there hard work!!
thnx a lot
will try sense lx 1st...
wanted a gingerbread only, basically...
thnx again!!!
You can also try SuperAosp 6.4, it had been doing good for me and I am happy with it.
I'm using Froyo by Laszlo for about 5 months, that's a great and stable rom.
Cyanogen is good
Just flashed Cyanogen 7.1. It's nice, true.
is cm 7 stable??? heard it's not yet...
flashed ginger yoshi(again)...it's nice and speedy...i have problems at times regarding my network(receiving messages)...can that be because of the radio(2.22.28.25) atm...
i tried the sense roms,but they take up some amount of space making the device a wee bit slow for me cos ds looked decent though
So, CM-best?
Hi guys and girls,
Im beginner around here, so be patient with me.
So, ok, when i was reading the first reply, i was like, yes, sence is nice. Have tried some Hero rom on my G1, that was on an sdcard that i got with the phone. Putted it using rom manager on it. But then somehow i felt that those eye candy things are less important for me then nice functionality of the system.
So as i see CM is most complete and most popular rom that should be quite good. Or one of the best i guess.
But i what i am wondering. I have now CM6 on my G1. And sometimes its kind of a littlebit slow you know. So one question i have, would an earlier version CM5 for example be some kind of faster? Althou i have read on wikipedia android page that "2.2 (Froyo) introduced speed improvements with JIT optimization and the Chrome V8 JavaScript engine". And that CM6 is based on 2.2. So it kind of not supposed to be slower.
Basicly Microsoft Exchange support would be nice to have for me. Because im IT pro and it was nice expirience to have both, personal and work email on my last phone i used (nokia 5800). As i see CM5 can do that. Since exchange support is since version 2.0/2.1 as i see on internet. But then would CM5 be any faster then CM6? And is CM7 slower?
Also bluetooth and camera support is pretty nice to have. So i would rather go with CM i think then, then with SenceLX. Althou its nice to have something like that. Let's imagine if i didnt need bluetooth and camera, then i can use it i guess.
Thanks in advance,
MVG,
Nikolai
edit: or is it time to get a faster phone? Because i actually just got the G1. Because i havent found anything better with full keyboard. And BB 8520 has no GPS, and no auto focus, and no Android. So i took G1. But i guess it maybe can be better with something faster. Tell me what do you think.
sense lx looks wow!!!! pretty good...but i couldnt have it running for me as a daily use rom....i was on eclair,htc clay's super bad for almost 7 months and loved it...also tried a few froyo's which were nice....
didnt fancy cm's much....
yoshi is really good...ginger yoshi ofcourse better than froyo yoshi...
also, cos ds gingerbread is worth a try!!!
mind u, for all the gingerbreads u need to have the latest radio and spl(2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 with 1.33.0013)...
if you want smoothness and functionality i would suggest a stable froyo rom, but update your radio to 2708/2825 for the extra 15mb ram hack adds some speed to the device... my personal favorite was froyo by laszlo with ezbifftest 2708 kernel but it hasn't been updated in so long so im sure there's more stable froyo roms available... i've just been busy keeping senselx up to date and currently me and maximo are building a froyo rom from source so once thats at a stable point i will reccomend it and would love some testers and opinions
THAT'S LOVELY...WOULD LOVE TO TRY THE FROYO, STABLE OFCOURSE!!!!
currently hooked to gingeryoshi
I like Ginger Yoshi also.
I see here is great info on topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079194

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