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I have been recently messing about flashing various WM6 ROM's to see which one I might settle on, however I have come across one issue which annoys me so much that I would choose not to go down the WM6 route.
On the phone dialler I now have a bar going across the screen which displays two lines of my contacts. I don't want this. I want the usual phone layout that I have used for the past dozen ROM upgrades.
Is there a way to remove this? I have tried all the settings on the phone but to no avail. Will it dissapear if I re-skin the phone with something from Eten?
What surprises me is that I have not seen anyone else mentioning it on any of the WM6 threads - Does everyone like this new layout?
Vista Dialer
I also found this annoying. I downloaded the following
Jimm98y_vista_dialer.zip
in the development/hacking section. I think it is much better than the old WM5
dialer skin. You can see the screen shots there.
You will probably also need to edit smartskey.ini to allow the dpad to function in the Phone app. With the Underground ROM that was a pain if I remember correctly as it is a system and RO file. I ended up making a cab that created a \Program Files\Smartskeyand copied my smartskey files to that folder. Then stopping smartskey, deleting the shortcut in \Startup and then running Smartskey from the \Program Files folder.
What a PIA! Another reason I went back to the Orwell ROM (after I took the green comm manager with me..)
Tony Simmonds said:
I also found this annoying. I downloaded the following
Jimm98y_vista_dialer.zip
in the development/hacking section. I think it is much better than the old WM5
dialer skin. You can see the screen shots there.
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Thanks Tony. Just done it and it worked a beaut.
tl;dr: I want a clean wm 6.1 rom for my Tmobile Wing that is stupid simple to install.
First off, let me say I really appreciate all the work that everyone has put into these custom roms here. I used to use X's MDA custom rom (and still do on my wife's MDA) because it was a very clean rom and it was stupid simple to use. You ran it, clicked next and yes to everything and waited.
I've had the Tmobile wing since launch and I've used the stock firmware because whenever I try to digest any information that is presented in the forum post format, my ADD kicks in and I get nowhere. Now that my replacement wing is here, I figured now is the best time to flash a new rom onto it because I can't put up with not being able to do things like take a picture without soft reseting.
So, I want to get rid of this stock rom but looking at the different rom threads, I'm not sure which one I want. I want to avoid as many 3rd party applications / today screen mods / touch interfaces as possible. Any 3rd party application I need, I'm happier to install post flash.
I do like the custom roms that have the obvious tweaks built in and I really like them when everything I need is included to take me from a fresh Wing out of the box to final product.
And finally, the easier the better. The last thing I have time for is tweaking my cell phone. I've put up with the awful stock rom since the wing came out simply because I haven't had the time to mess around with it.
I thank you in advance for your advice and help.
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
ivanmmj said:
I'll build you a clean and simple ROM when I get home. Doubleclick on one file and click enter three times. Wait. Done.
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That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I saw some of your threads and it looked very promising. I assume that covers the CID unlock?
Yep, it doesn't unlock it per say... just goes around the lock. Just one question. What programs do you want on it? If you're not sure, take a look at my kitchen. Those are the packages I'll be using.
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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you can wait for open touch 4 =] that's what I am doing.
I'm currently using touch-it vista style.
rosewood said:
Ok, I checked out your thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372236
Adobe Flash
AdobeReader
MS Voice Command
Remote Desktop
I do fine with battery indicator that came with the wing.
Updated Microsoft Office
Java
Wing Keyboard Driver
I'm not familiar enough with each of the registry tweaks you mentioned.
Ivan's Tweaks sound fine, Beam disabled (since there is no IR), disable the security warnings, disable the sliding sounds, get TZ from the network, enable file cache, hide sim contacts, Increase FileSystem filter cache, INcrease font cache, and most definitely get rid of SMS sent message notification if that isn't in there. Also IE temp files on the storage card would be grand.
Ideally the Comm settings would be set for Tmobile USA. (But I don't need My5)
And whatever applications are part of the core OS. I'm not all that unpleased with the stock rom for the wing. I uninstalled a bunch of applications when I got it and haven't had to hard reset it since so I don't remember all the different bloat that came on there. I just would like a bit less of a memory leak, a few good registry tweaks, and of course an update to wm6.1.
If the stock ringtones and sounds can be cut to save space, I'm all for it. However, I read on some of your other posts that you have to get to a certain size on the ROM or it fails. So if that is the case, the sounds/rings can stay.
And as long as I can flash back to the stock rom if I have to warranty this bad boy, I'm as happy as a clam. Maybe I'm crazy but I prefer installing applications outside of the rom process. I like starting with a clean base. The only things I have installed are Google Maps, SPB Wallet and SPB Pocket Plus. Like I said, I try to keep it very simple.
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Sounds like how I like my ROMs.
My ROMs are stripped to the bare minimum. Yes, there is a size requirement that I've been trying to find a way to bypass it but my kitchen DOES work around the problem by inflating ROMs that are too small into the correct size with empty space. I haven't had time to work on this, yet, as I'm heading to work right now, but I will try to get it done tonight.
never mind, wrong...
Thank you ivanmmj. I would say keep the sounds in then since taking them out doesn't really do anything.
Would it be possible to put something in that could be deleted post install? I am just tossing out ideas.
As for "waiting for open touch 4" and using touch-it vista style, I've looked at the threads for that and it just has a bunch of stuff, like the HTC today screen stuff that I don't ever want to use. My today screen is very clean. It has Tmobile's plugin that shows network, date, wifi and bluetooth status. It has my owner info and my calendar info. This is it. I used to use SPB Diary but it was a memory hog and I never did like the clutter.
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
ivanmmj said:
You don't need the sounds and the less files, the faster the ROM. You can't uninstall anything that's built into the ROM, only things installed after through the ExtROM or anything else. The padding I put in makes the ROM bigger but doesn't add any files. It's all HEX.
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Well fast is what makes my day
I can't wait for you to work your magic.
Thanks
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Well If you enterd this thread, You probley figured out that we have a 6.1 T-mobile edition rom thanks to ND4SPD. How ever at the moment it is limited to a small group to test. At the same time I hate using the PM system when multiple ppl are testing anything. So I made a thread were WE (the TESTERS) can discuss and post fixes for this rom so we can get it released to you (THE PUBLIC) soon. I ask please, PLEASE, Do Not Post in this thread UNLESS you actually recieved the test rom from nd4spd. When a nonsence post is posted it makes it harder for us to concentrate on working on the rom when we are answering your questions.
#1 Question to be posted in this thread is...
Q. WHEN IS THIS ROM GONNA BE OUT ????????
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What I have found so far..
1. HOME Messages Tab crashes NEO when enabled.
Installing my cab of 4.0 Arcsoft mms did not help this problem.
2. HOME My Faves App does not work, but My Faves settings will run.
I have not tryed to fix this.
3. HOME Notification Tab does not open the text its notifing you of nor does it dismiss the text by pressing dismiss
I have not tried to fix this
4. HOME Wap Shortcuts cannot find winwap or one of its components.
I think adding regisrty values for clinks instead of using the guid will fix this.
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
Figured out why but dont have a fix. Im missing HKCR
6. Start Menu Recent Programs includes 2 shortcuts that do not work (Instant Messaging.lnk and Task Manager)
In conveinence untill you open 9 programs to get these off recent programs. These programs work when using the shortcuts in "all programs"
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
I havnt looked into this. How ever ive had the problem before and its usually the html file being used.
8. WAP BROWSER says my homepage is unavalible (but the default t-mobile rom told me this as well)
I dont know if this is just my phone, Feedback needed.
9. UNLOCK SCREEN still does not show clock and date when set to
Seems like we are going to have alot of fun with this one.
10. HOME Getting Started is not displayed.
Simple menu added to the registry for neo will fix this.
11. PHONE Can not initiate call by dialing number and hitting send key. (have to hit center button on D-Pad)
I have no clue were to start looking on this one.
12. MMS Does not work
SMS Works fine.
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I have not tested WIFI or BLUETOOTH
ND4SPD said neo is looking for arcsoft 4 but arcsoft 5 is on this rom wich is why the message tab isnt on the neo homescreen.
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shadowmike said:
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
The battery in the settings tab is not showing up due to the ID in the registry {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6}, When its switched to the wifi ID wifi status shows up on line 2 but the battery is displayed in the settings tab and opens power.exe when clicked. But when switched back to {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6} the battery display dissapears.
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shadowmike said:
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
The html coding is causing the favorites and history drop downs from displaying correctly. This reg edit will fix this issue simply by using the default windows mobile homepage. wich is the same page but not skinned by t-mobile
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AboutURLs]
"version_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"home_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"blank"="res://webview.dll/blank.htm"
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shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder
I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious
ND4SPD said:
I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious
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I like the hard way.
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kron2 said:
shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder
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Explain lockup ? as in freeze. And how do you get it to freeze ? Are you switching home screens and when you try to get to homescreen you cant ? what apps are you running on the rom ?
and #7
it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom
kron2 said:
it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom
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I have not had your "Freeze", however since the shadow is underpowered. when i switch homescreens if i dont hit end call or the home button before it starts to load the homescreen i have to restart. however this also happend in the official t-mobile rom.
Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.
tweker said:
Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.
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It means he pm'ed a few ppl a link to a new 6.1 t-mobile NEO homescreen rom.
From what he told me it was not publicly released... so if he did not send you the link to this rom and you have it. somone leaked it... thats what it means. basicly. I dont want ppl that dont have this test rom to come in this thread and ask questions and make this thread 10 pages.
How is the process going Guys.
well i decided to come back and work on this again.
im currently installing the rom. simply because i want to use the portrait camera. and since it works flawlessly in this version. yeah.
Yea Mike, what I been wanting is the original T-Mobile screen back.
Well, since most of the beta testing team is really busy, I thought it would be ok that I post my newest build of WM6.1 T-Mobile Edition as a public beta to get more feedback:
Features:
All the T-mobile bloatware!
NEO interface
All WM6.1 features except sliding homescreen
Working portrait camera!
Problems:
Sliding homescreen doesn't work
MyFaves locks up homescreen - Recommended to disable this
When Messaging tab is enabled it kills neo interface
Installation:
If on T-Mobile ROM:
Run CID Unlocker.exe and then run window mobile 6.1.exe
If on custom ROM:
Run windows mobile 6.1.exe
DISCLAIMER: This build still has many bugs and quirks that a lot of people do not want to deal with. This test is meant for people who understand this and are willing to give some type of feedback or suggestion that will push this rom closer to release.
NOTE: If there is a non-working neo tab, you will need to use a registry editing program to disable the tab.
Download link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/snvdw5 Should start with Neo automatically
i'm excited. i've been waiting for it long time. downloading right now. we'll see
Yeah, a lot of bugs. no home screen at all. Favorites at PIE sends me to windows folder in file explorer,mms after trying send new stuck. I cant unlock it, have to reboot phone.
neo works if you disable CMessageNeo plugin in registry. I forgot to make the change. I'll make the change and reupload the version.
what about slide theme?
ok there was no questione. i missed that part it is not working
Do you mind posting the fix for the portrait camera, or tell me how I can get it? I have your v4.1 ROM installed, and have been *extremely* happy with it. I just don't like the landscape camera. Thanks!
Thanks for posting this. I'm waiting for the final release since my phone has to be in good working order for work. But I love seeing that progres is being made. Kudos!
does mms work?
if mms doesnt work you can just edit it yourself using his guide on the developers version of this rom.
one of the bugs i found was when sending/receiving an mms message the home screen would no longer be accessible. it would freeze on the message and i would have to restart phone.
also my wifi does not work...
Upgrade assistance
Hi there - I'm currently at the tri-color bootloader screen and am at a loss of what to do next to recover.
I ran cidunlocker, which had an error, but seemed to work. Screen went to black then white then nothing. I power cycled & it came up normally. So I continued.
I then ran the upgrade exe. It ran for a bit, the screen cycled to the boot loader, but nothing happened afterwards. Now on poweron, I get only the bootloader.
If I try to run the utility again, the screen turns to a progress bar (only) that stays at 0%.
I'm assuming that this is a fairly simple fix, given that the bootloader still works, I'm just not sure what it is. Assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Adam
If the CIDLocker had an error, then maybe you didn't application unlock your phone first. Did you?
If I were you, I would download the T-Mobile Update from tmobileshadow.com.
Then hit the two soft reset buttons and press the power button, you'll get the tri color flash mode screen.
From there, run the t-mobile update exe from your compter and follow the on screen directions.
Once your phone is running again. Do an application unlock, Cid unlock, and then flash your phone with the t-mobile beta edition. Though I really rec you to use the 1.0 Developer edition.
Sugg Change to install instructions
Thanks, Levis.
Looks like the problem was with my running of the cid tool.
i'd suggest adding in something along the lines of "Run supercid.exe, ignore the directive to reboot your phone, instead hit ok at the dos box. When your phone turns white, run the upgrade utility (while the phone is still white)"
I had a better written text on this before, but it got lost in an edit.
Thanks!
Adam
Bug reports
From my initial run through, here is what I've found. Should we post bug reports in this thread, or in the "do not post" bug tracking thread?
Also, if there are any known fixes or workarounds for these issues (esp the slider screen ones), please point me in the right direction!
1. Default (awesome) t-mobile slider screen:
1.A. *Text/MMS/Email is missing from the main slider screen.
-- Aah, that is due to what you meant on the 1st page of this post, where cMessageNeo doesn't work. Yup, I definitely confirmed that by enabling/disabling it using the CHomeConfigurator (cool tool) http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2105&p=15149&hilit=myfaves#p15149
1.B. [RESOLVED] * How does one remove the myfaves from the slider home?
-- Looks like one can use the CHomeConfigurator above or follow the instructions on page 2 of the mirror post to this one on allshadow.com - http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2450&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=myfaves&start=10
1.C. * When a new notification for a hotmail email message comes in, 'dismiss' in notifications has no effect, nor does hitting the action button to open it. Note that left/right cycling through the messages does work.
2. T-zones busted
2.A. * Running the wallpaper/ringer slider icons indicates that winwap is missing. Running winwap directly from start menu (at least after installing Levis' t-mobile tzones cab) works fine.
2.B. * I AM noticing that it error 503's if opened when connected to PC. Not sure if this is new behavior or not.
3. Messaging Options in Start menu
3.A. * appears that we can't customize or create new MMSC settings (options greyed out)
And for the hang when myfaves is clicked on - http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2450&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=myfaves&start=10
New Issue:
Default UI Actions
4.A. Using the (mostly) default screen, incoming caller ID for known numbers is white text on a white gif background, rendering the name of the caller very difficult to read.
I'm still using your original version which after a few tweaks works fine. Other than having to possibly tweak it (1.1 beta) more to get bugs fixed, which I don't have, are there any significant improvements to this 1.1 beta version? I always hated the neo theme as well as my faves and do not want to mess with this beta which apparently has now added them back.
If your revised rom has improvements as well as fixes for some of the above I would happily test it.
Thanks for all the hard work you have done. I am still happily running your last edition.
Everything seems to be working fine besides the msg in the main screen
You devs still monitoring this thread?
ND4SPD, Mike,
You guys still monitoring this thread? I'm wondering if the issues that we're reporting are being of any use in your future development efforts.
Thanks,
Adam
Yes, I'm monitoring this thread. Thanks for all the feedback! I've been busy again with a competition and haven't had time to modify the ROM. Don't worry, all of your input will be taken into producing a better test rom.
I've been collaborating with some people trying to get NEO on wm6.1 on other devices and they're having the same problems as well. Just a heads up, I'm pretty sure there will still be some buggy things until I can get the shadow 2 rom that has all the modified dlls for both sliding panel and neo.
Quick question, what's new/fixed in the "Clean Dev Rev1.1 BETA 1" that you have listed in your signature? Does the CMessage panel work in that version?
Great work on the first Clean Dev btw, I really enjoy 6.1 thanks. I just took the plunge on Friday and of course I find out you have a new version coming after I spent hours tweaking it lol.
OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
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I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
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plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.
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difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.