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Kaiser won't power up completely

I installed the Diamond Series L26 ROM and ran it fine for about 4 days. Then with no reason I can find windows started to respond badly and the screen didn't build up like it should.
I did a soft reset and after the phone came up. But after I entered my pincode the windows pretty quick gave a battery warning and went dead again. While I was pretty sure I had enough battery.
So at home I pluged it in (wall socket, original charger), the amber light went on. I booted it again and still no go. So I left it pluged in and waited a while it was 'charging'. But it still didn't react when I wanted to turn it on.
When I removed it from the charger and turned it on it booted again with the same result as the first time. I checked two text messages and the battery warning came again, and the phone turned itself off again.
After a couple of tries I tried a hard reset. No difference. Now my phone will boot until the message shows it is going to go back to factory settings, I hear a beep and it turns itself off.
I tried:
- Reinsert the battery (left it out overnight)
- Tried entirely different battery (fully charged)
- Plugged it in the original charger
- Plugged it in without the battery
- Took out SD card
- No SIM card inserted
- 'Powercharge' the battery with wires to the plus and minus contacts
- Rapidly pressing the battery against the contacts on the phone hoping to 'revive'something.
- Tried my battery in a different phone > it was fully charged.
Can it be the software thinking the battery is dead while it isn't?
...... help

Is a bump alowed the next day?
Anyway, is my problem that obscure...? Or is my post too long?
I don't want to know what T-mobile will ask for the repair without any waranty.

have you been playing around with Android?
Heb je met Android gespeeld?

Dust2Dust said:
have you been playing around with Android?
Heb je met Android gespeeld?
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Nope. Just the L26 Kaiser Diamond ROM.

Sounds broken to me, try to send it back.

ChumleyEX said:
Sounds broken to me, try to send it back.
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Yeah, but I know what happeneds next:
"We see you installed another ROM. Therefore voiding your warranty. That wil be EUR 300."
I am trying to avoid that scenario.
But perhaps I wasn't as techsavy as I thought. I read this in another post:
Steps before running the upgrade:
1. take out the battery to make the phone go off, unplug usb cord if you have it plugged to your pc.
2. put battery back in
3. Press and hold the camera button all the way in, then press the power button while still holding the camera button.
4. This will make your phone boot in to tri-color screen.
5. Now look at the bottom white area, when it says USB, connect your phone to your pc through usb cord.
6. Now you can just go ahead, open the rom you just downloaded and follow the steps.
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That sounds like it is still an option for me as well. I was under the impression I wouldn't be able to reflash my phone because it wouldn't power up. I can try this, right?

hmm, maybe try that or flashing from the SD card. Either way go for broke, if you need to screw the phone up to the point that they can't tell what rom you have then go for it.

Is it bricked

I searched and searched. I was reflashing my AT&T tilt on a tmobile net, using the memory card method. I am not exactly sure what i did wrong. I flashed it once tonight and didnt like it even though it worked fine. I flashed it again and when I did the soft reset I think i took the memory card out to soon. Now the phone will not turn on at all. I love this phone, someone please help a brother out

Hard SPL
If I recall correctly, unless you were flashing the SPL, you just need to re-attempt the flash by engaging Hard SPL again.
It's been forever... but I seem to recall that with Hard SPL, you can always recover, unless you are in the middle of re-writing / overwriting SPL.
Erbid
(Tell us you do have Hard SPL installed.)

I cant get the thing to turn on at all I think I have tried every thing. I have flashed twice before without problem. But it just wont turn on now. I guess what im trying to say is I believe hard spl is on it. I ran boot loader from the phone using camera and soft reset. I accomplished the task once already and loaded the newest hyperdragon and didnt like it so about 10 minuts later i did the same thing and tried to install an old dutty one and the phone will not turn on. I loaded every thing and then reset. I think i may have pulled the memory card to early because i dont remember the phone saying it was clearing storage or coming back on. Sorry if this seems longwinded.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but is the battery fully charged? Try charging for a few hours - check that the charge light is on etc. Normally with a bad flash, even if the phone is completely bricked, you will see something try to light up or go brighter on the screen - unless the battery is dead or the screen ribbon disconnected.
It worries me a bit that you 'think' you have hardspl. Either you do or you don't. The process is simple enough to do but has enough steps that you'd definately remember doing it.

Ok, so I think you are sorta right. I put a fully charged bat into the phone but still nothing coming on. Turns out the old battery was dead though. Strange considering it was being charged all day while in the car. phone still wont turn on. anyone know if there is someone who fixes these?

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Ok, so I think you are sorta right. I put a fully charged bat into the phone but still nothing coming on. Turns out the old battery was dead though. Strange considering it was being charged all day while in the car. phone still wont turn on. anyone know if there is someone who fixes these?
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okay the phone isn't turning on but are there any led's lit up? (red, green, orange??) because that indicates there is still life in the phone and recovery is possible. This can be when you turn it on or on charge etc.

Very unlikely you bricked it. More likely a problem with the battery or charger not charging the battery.
When you plug the charger into the phone does a yellow light appear at the top to indicate the unit is charging? If not you have a faulty charger.
Can you get into the BootLoader screen? Try the following:
> Take you battery, sim card (re-lock the cover after taking it out) and storage card out
> make sure all contacts on the battery are clean and replace it
> Hold the camera button in fully and then press the power button for a few seconds (the Bootloader screen should appear)
If the Bootloader screen comes up then read the 2nd line down which starts SPL and report back with the version.
If no Bootloader screen appears then take the Battery out and plug the charging cable into the phone. Then with the battery still taken out, try to get back into the Bootloader screen by holding the camera button in while pressing the power button.
If that gets you into the Bootloader then then problem is with your battery.
If the phone still does not go into the Bootloader screen the problem is most likely with your charger.

thanx, i have since bought another tilt. I put the old battery in the new tilt and it was dead. I put the fresh battery in the old tilt and nothing yet. I didn't try the bootloader yet. I did try charging the phone on the old battery though and no lights what so ever. even with new battery on charger. I will get back to you on the bootloader trick

Bootloader trick didnt work. Thank you though. Looks as if I now have a parts phone that My wife hates me for.

[email protected] said:
Bootloader trick didnt work. Thank you though. Looks as if I now have a parts phone that My wife hates me for.
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Have you tried the charger from your new tilt in the phone that doesnt work? If you connect the charger then the charging light should come on at the top. If thats not happening but it works on your new tilt then the problem lies in the phone. You can try checking contacts and connections but if you have no life after swapping bits over from your new tilt to the old one then ur pretty much buggered. Can you not send it back as faulty or is it out of warranty?

No warranty. I bought it used. Im on Tmobile. Thank you for everything though. I did try the new charger and got nothing.

Update bricked is there adb access with out booting?

The newest update bricked the device and i'm looking to get some files off the phone before using the sbf to restore. Is there a way to have ADB access if you are not able to successfully boot into the OS?

Hey, as an avid flasher (gosh i believe i did it over 15 times just this month =O), I noticed that even if you reflash everything on your phone, only your apps are erased as well as some data. If you're looking to back up stuff in the internal SD card, you should be fine as flashing won't touch that. As for if you're looking to grab some user data, I don't believe there's a way to do that, but I could totally be wrong. Sorry if that didn't help =\

if you reboot holding arrow down, it seems like I saw a USB enumeration option if you keep pressing down volume through the option. That may be a way to get the stuff off, depends what you want to do though.
I can also confirm SBF'n back to factory will retain SD info. I did it this morning to update to latest OTA.

Accidentally rooted and bricked ... but now the battery won't charge ... so RDS says battery is too low to flash ... any suggestions?
My only thought is to go to the ATT store and ask if they can swap batteries, but I don't see why they would.

If you plug it into the wall it should charge with the phone turned off. If the battery is completely dead- it will appear nothing is happening. Just leave it plugged in for a while, drink a beer, do something around the house, then come back. It should show a charging light at this point or have tried to turn itself on.

I will also 2nd that SBF flash will keep the files on /sdcard/ level intact.

Thanks for the quick reply...I feel silly asking, but how do you turn it off? As soon as I plug it in it turns on and gives the message "Failed to boot 2 / Starting RSD mode / Battery too low to flash." I press power, nothing happens. I hold down power, nothing happens. I hold Vol Down and press power, nothing happens. I charge overnight 12+ hours with the screen on, it gets warm, but otherwise nothing happens. I charge with the USB to the computer, the screen stays off, and it seems to get a little bit of charge (enough so that it doesn't shut off as soon as it's unplugged), but hours of trying to charge this way nets the same error message. She's bricked. I guess you can't flash without a battery in place?

Edit: Or just buy this spare battery desktop charger
My next best suggestion for you is to find a way to get 3.7 volts of power to those battery pins. Either with a regulated power supply or another lithium cell battery. I'm not sure whether or not the detection circuit will allow the phone to boot or not or if that is charge-related only, but it would be an alternative to keeping a bricked phone. If you choose to try to run this without a battery keep in mind wall wart type power is unstable (read: voltage changes) at different current draws.

Went to the store near closing time (10 min) and they gave me a fresh battery instead of going through warranty, said that could take days with no phone. Fortunately he didn't test the battery and, upon putting a new one in, he only looked at it long enough to see the dual core logo and not the Failed to Boot message.
Flashing worked perfectly after I had a fresh battery, thankfully. No longer bricked, no longer using 6-yo crackberry!

How to unbrick a "dead" Milestone.

After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.

I tried following this guide, though without success. The phone still has that white LED lit when it's connected to the PC.

After a reply on this thread I also made, it might be possible that the battery is charged, but the phone refuses to boot at all. Is there any way to unbrick the phone in this state?

Do you think your device is really BRICKED?
If so, you can try to flash your original sbf file into your phone. Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696845
If you are using a Linux, google for "sbf_flash".

I agree with my front floor..ermm, u dont need to worry about its 'dead'. just flash original sbf can rescure your phone.

I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck

algopem said:
I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck
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"My phone is in limbo state... "
That's a pretty cool statement.
From technical view, it might have happened that something caused a kind of deadloop when reading scratchpad SRAM inside OMAP processor.
This SRAM, as well as the internal RTC is powered by a small battery soldered on the mainboard, while the phone is shut down and the battery is taken out.
What you did was, to wait untill this battery became uncharged.
All SRAM and RTC setting as well then gets erased.
Afterwards the CPU will start up with empty scratch SRAM, might be called a "real" cold boot
Normally the phone should not behave like this. Even if SRAM is not valid the phone should boot up...
...but anyway as you observed it like this, it might happen.
@andoruB:
Apart from that, the Milestone is hard to brick in general.
Might happen though, if you do evil things while flashing new firmware.
Especially while flashing bootloaders...
If you got some more information about the things you did, would be helpful!
Good luck anyway!
scholbert

andoruB said:
After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.
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how did u root it? can u give a more detailed description? and hows ur phone? sometimes, the milestone would just shut off and wont come up if the battery is gone. Try charging it for maybe 2-3 hours, untouched, and see what happens.

Have this exact problem. Was doing a nandroid recover when the phone got stuck. Pulled the battery out. Placed it back in, pressed the power button. Nothing.
Led lights up only when connected to the computer's USB. Battery was charged before Nandroid recover. Used nandroid a lot of times but for some reason, my stone stopped playing nice.
I just removed the battery. Hoping this works. Can someone please post if you got this same issue resolved? I like this phone no matter how slow it goes sometimes. Thanks!

I completely forgot about this thread, sorry guys!
I don't remember exactly what happened, it's been so long... but I do remember I left the phone "inactive" (it's not like i had much of a choice! XD ) for 1 or 2 months, with the battery out. After I got hold of a wall charger, I plugged in the battery, after I plugged in the charger, and what do you know? It worked! It started charging (was 60% charged, fully charged, I unplugged it, but after putting it to charge again just to make sure it was fully loaded before I would flash a new ROM, it was charged up to about 80%, weirdly, so I guess it was a weird battery problem)
I do remember I didn't do anything to it, so I'm not sure what to tell you guys to do, except leave out the battery for a month or so ^^;

Hard Brick?

Today my D3 rebooted unexpectedly. After the reboot, the phone didn't turn on, and I connected to energy to make sure that it wasn't a battery problem. When I connected it, it tried to boot, and I left it, but when I came back, the phone was fully dead. Doesn't turn on. The battery is OK, I put it on a Motorola Bravo, and it showed 60% charge. I have a Factory Programming Cable, and I connected it to the phone, but neither this way the phone did turn on.
I don't know what to do, it seems that is a hardware problem . When I put the battery, the phone heats a lot
Any ideas?

stereoactivo said:
Today my D3 rebooted unexpectedly. After the reboot, the phone didn't turn on, and I connected to energy to make sure that it wasn't a battery problem. When I connected it, it tried to boot, and I left it, but when I came back, the phone was fully dead. Doesn't turn on. The battery is OK, I put it on a Motorola Bravo, and it showed 60% charge. I have a Factory Programming Cable, and I connected it to the phone, but neither this way the phone did turn on.
I don't know what to do, it seems that is a hardware problem . When I put the battery, the phone heats a lot
Any ideas?
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Wish I could be the one answering but I'm writing to chime in that the exact same thing happened to me today. Same thing re my battery. The only thing I'd add is that it did have trouble booting up for no reason 2 or 3 days ago, but I took out the battery, waited maybe 20 minutes, and she rebooted okay. I called Verizon, and wouldn't you know that I'm 3 days out of warranty. They wouldn't budge to let me get a replacement under warranty.

stereoactivo said:
Today my D3 rebooted unexpectedly. After the reboot, the phone didn't turn on, and I connected to energy to make sure that it wasn't a battery problem. When I connected it, it tried to boot, and I left it, but when I came back, the phone was fully dead. Doesn't turn on. The battery is OK, I put it on a Motorola Bravo, and it showed 60% charge. I have a Factory Programming Cable, and I connected it to the phone, but neither this way the phone did turn on.
I don't know what to do, it seems that is a hardware problem . When I put the battery, the phone heats a lot
Any ideas?
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have U tried vol up+vol down+power on boot?

rebornsoul said:
have U tried vol up+vol down+power on boot?
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Or x/m + power

DoubleYouPee said:
Or x/m + power
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The volume key one yes, but not x/m.

I am having the same problem. How did it turn out for you? And what is the x/m ?

perdix1975 said:
I am having the same problem. How did it turn out for you? And what is the x/m ?
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With the phone powered off, slide the keyboard open. Hold down "X" while powering on to access the boot menu. I can't recall what holding down the "M" key while powering on does, though...

perdix1975 said:
I am having the same problem. How did it turn out for you? And what is the x/m ?
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Seems to be permanently bricked. Gone back to my old Imagio running Windows Mobile 6.5. Good phone, but slow for today's standards, outside of HTC Sense not finger-friendly and, of course, I don't have access to apps. Going to wait out my Vzw contract and then very likely get a SmartTalk account using an unlocked GSM phone.
The x/m refers to an alternative hard reset method. Hold down both of those keys along with the power button.