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Orange HomeScreen

Ok well no one seems to be replying to my question about dumping my orange rom so lets try this instead.
How would i go about saving my orange homescreen so i can put it back once i have upgraded my m700 to the dopod rom.
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
Please help i really wanna upgrade my rom but i keep backing out until i can get these things sorted.
thanks all.
Rob

rjefferis said:
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
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In the extROM of GPS enabled ROM, I can see this file : PT_WA_Abaxia.CAB which is related to this Orange customization. But I think that some parts of this Today plug'in are embedded with the OS itself.

rjefferis said:
Ok well no one seems to be replying to my question about dumping my orange rom so lets try this instead.
How would i go about saving my orange homescreen so i can put it back once i have upgraded my m700 to the dopod rom.
Or, am i being stupid coz im sort of thinking that maybe the orange customization that runs on first setup is in the ext rom which will stay behind on the upgrade and i will therefore get all my orange stuff still
????? dont really know
Please help i really wanna upgrade my rom but i keep backing out until i can get these things sorted.
thanks all.
Rob
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On my Dopod rom I'm using the orange customisation from the Hermes ,the cab is HERMES_RO_BUILD_93_CLOCK.CAB,and it's working quite well except for the speed dial.
I think that the abaxia cab our friend mentions in the previous post should do the job.

sammis said:
the cab is HERMES_RO_BUILD_93_CLOCK.CAB
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How big is this file ?
mine is around 100KB I think (I'm at work now, can't check how big it is exactly)

Hi everyone.
in my ext rom on my trinity i have the file PT_WA_Abaxia. I order to test whether my ext rom had the correct stuff i hard reset my hermes and installed my trininty ext rom but this didnt seem to install the homescreen. Saying that though it wouldnt let me run the autorun so i had to install the cabs individually.
The hermes homescreen is older than the trinity one. I have never been a big fan of the orange homescreen but the trinity one is quite nice. You can add vip contacts which show up straight in the homescreen rather than having to use the speeddial thing, the background pic changes depending on whether the phone is on silent, vidrate or ring. All in all a but nicer than the hermes one.

more testing
right on my hermes which was factory settings including all orange customization i tried installing the cab PT_WA_Abaxia. didnt seem to do a huge amount.
I then renamed the old DIL_APP folder and copied this folder from my trinity.
I also copied the DIL_PLUGIN.dll from the windows folder on my trinity onto my hermes. Then i soft reset and my trinity homescreen is now on my hermes and all works fine.
So now i need to know how to get my trinity homescreen onto my trinity without the original orange customization.
When i was playing with my hermes last night i tried not installing the orange customization as this then seemed to allow phonepad to work. I then tried the same steps as i did above and i could get the homescreen to show up in the list. Therefore i can only assume that i would need to run the hermes cab to install the original orange screen and then rename it and stuff like i did above.
So in summary, i would need to save the hermes homescreen cab, and the dil folder and the dll file of my trinity. Flash my trinity with the dopod rom. Install the hermes homescreen using the cab. Rename the folder and copy the trinity one across and copy the dll file into the windows folder and all should be done.
Anyone got a better way, while i go off and test my theory.

Super Sheep said:
How big is this file ?
mine is around 100KB I think (I'm at work now, can't c
heck how big it is exactly)[/
You can find the cab (304kb) in the Hermes FTP extended rom section and in the Orange_M31_00_14.123.1.614_extrom
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thanks for that, i saved it off the hermes. getting good at this unhiding my ext rom malarky.
anyway. i tested my plan and it worked on my hermes.
I hard reset
didnt do orange ext
installed the cab file HERMES_UK_BUILD_93_CLOCK
renamed the dil folder and copied the trinity one in
copied the dll into the windows folder
and hey presto
porbably a bit of a long winded way but it worked.

Hi,
How are you sure Orange wont know yourve flashed the rom?
Also how do you prevent the orange customization after hard reset on the trinity?
Thanks
Warny

well this is the problem. If orange check then they will know we have flashed the rom. That is why i want to be able to re flash back to the orange rom if i need to.
Easiest way to stop the customization on any device is to soft reset just before it starts, when windows loads up the first time on it you will see a little window saying customization will start in 3 sec or something. Just soft reset then and the customization will not run.
So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though. If i dont run it on my hermes at least i can get phonepad to work but no such luck on the trinity.

just to clarify, this post
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I hard reset
didnt do orange ext
installed the cab file HERMES_UK_BUILD_93_CLOCK
renamed the dil folder and copied the trinity one in
copied the dll into the windows folder
and hey presto
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was testing that if we flashed to the dopod rom which has phonepad built in, this is how we could get our orange home screen back.
The second line about not doing the orange ext was really just proof of concept that the process would work even if we didnt have the ext rom installed.
I dont know whether we will loose the orange ext rom when we update to the dopod rom but this was proving that even if we do we can still get all the orange customization back again.

rjefferis said:
well this is the problem. If orange check then they will know we have flashed the rom. That is why i want to be able to re flash back to the orange rom if i need to.
Easiest way to stop the customization on any device is to soft reset just before it starts, when windows loads up the first time on it you will see a little window saying customization will start in 3 sec or something. Just soft reset then and the customization will not run.
So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though. If i dont run it on my hermes at least i can get phonepad to work but no such luck on the trinity.
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OK I was hoping it would allow phonepad. So if you flash back the original rom is there any way they can tell? How close are you to doing this on your trinity? Thanks, Warny

well if we could flash back to original then they would not be able to tell. The problem is is that there is not a dumped version of the original orange rom. Therefore if we flash to the dopod rom we have no way of going back to the orange rom unless someone dumps it for us.
Realisticly there is no reason not to flash the dopod rom because we shouldnt loose anything but we gain phonepad. I do worry a bit about the fact that i cant go back again.
if you wanted to send the phone back though then orange would see that the bootscreen had changed after you have flashed to the dopod and might not be too impressed, saying that. If we flash to the dopod and we get phonepad and all our orange stuff then why would we want to send the phone back.
Oh decisions decisions

rjefferis said:
So far though i havent found any real reason not to run it on the trinity though.
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I bypass it in order to skip orange mail installation

Hi,
OK i see. It seems from your post about your hermes that it might be possible to make the phone *look* like it has the original rom? (sorry Im half asleep today).
Are you considering trying the process out on the trinity then? (ill wait for you if so lol)
Also it voids the warranty so if it broke it would be nice to reflash to orignal rom so they cant avoid fixing it dont you think?
Warny

Warny
Yeah thats what i mean.
I am very tempted i just keep bottling it.
You are right also about the warranty
If there was an orange rom available i would do it without a thought.

rjefferis said:
Warny
Yeah thats what i mean.
I am very tempted i just keep bottling it.
You are right also about the warranty
If there was an orange rom available i would do it without a thought.
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Have you tried things like this?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945

good thinking Warny, right i tried it and it appeared to work. I created a 128mb image. The big question is. Has it worked. We need someone to test my image. Or at least tell me how i can check it has worked and how er can create a rom from it.
Oh crap, just realised. Wrong phone. im using my hermes. god damn it.
Well it worked on that. I will try it on my Trinity but i need to go and get a mini sd card now.
Anyway still need the answers to above bits for when i make the trinity image

getting a bit rommy in here
Warny
lets take this rom dumping discussion over into my other thread, might have more chance of getting answered . I have copied our last coments over there.
Cheers mate

rjefferis said:
Hi everyone.
in my ext rom on my trinity i have the file PT_WA_Abaxia. I order to test whether my ext rom had the correct stuff i hard reset my hermes and installed my trininty ext rom but this didnt seem to install the homescreen. Saying that though it wouldnt let me run the autorun so i had to install the cabs individually.
The hermes homescreen is older than the trinity one. I have never been a big fan of the orange homescreen but the trinity one is quite nice. You can add vip contacts which show up straight in the homescreen rather than having to use the speeddial thing, the background pic changes depending on whether the phone is on silent, vidrate or ring. All in all a but nicer than the hermes one.
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Perhaps you could get someone to install the customizaton from your trinity on their trinity+dopod. Then see if there is any noticable difference?
Warny

Help my wm6.5 does not respond

Hello,
Iam daniel. My english is not zo good but i will try.
I have flashed my phone with hardspl 3.56.
After that i installed wm6.5 from josh Build 21198
Then i start up my phone and every think look richt.
Then my phone ask for a restart, zo i start up and there was my problem, he doesn't start up.
I see thee first screen with red letters at the bottom and he does nothing.
Can you help me???

Have you tried a hard reset?
Also, did you CID unlock your phone as well? I believe you have to be CID unlocked to flash a 6.5 ROM on your phone.

Had a same matter last day ago, after re-flash, all working fine

I didn't unlock my phone whit cid...
for a hard reset is it the two buttuns (with the lines on it) near the phone buttom?
And a reflash how does that work?
I have no communication with my pc know because he crased in the screen when you starting up. It is the first screen you see when you restart your phone.

Ok, a couple of things... this is the wrong forum to be asking in, and I bet a mod is going to shut this down at some point. You should try posting in the forum for the ROM you flashed.
What you need to do is grab a stock WinMo 6.1 ROM and flash via the SD card method, that should get you up and running again.
Then, you will want to run Olipro's SIM/CID unlocker. What this will do is fully unlock your phone so you can flash any ROM, radio, SPL, any! Be careful, though, since not all ROMs are meant for Kaiser... so make sure you are flashing stuff meant for Kaiser.
Once you run Olipro's unlocker, you will want to re-flash the 3.56HardSPL, then a new radio, then go ahead and start flashing any ROM from the Kaiser section.
WinMo 6.5 ROMs reqiure you to be CID unlocked, and that is why you are stuck where you are.
And yes, you are right with how to do a hard rest.

Thanks! I try this tommorow if it works, if it doesn't work i will post my problem in the forum for rom. But hopfully it works because if cot know a nokia 6500 and i can't without my qwerty

Best dutch rom

Hey, I got a MDA compact IV branded from tmobile, but its starting to get on my nerves, and I want the original theme, so I figured I've got to put a new ROM on, now what rom is the best for a Dutch tmobile MDA compact Iv?
thanks in advance

i use A.Z.T.O.R. X2 (V11)Ultimate NLD based on latest Official ROM
you can find it here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417
there aren't many dutch roms, but this is probably the best one.

It seems to be nice and clean... Just a heavily tweaked ROM.
But these are Diamond ROM's, are they good for the MDAcompactIV?
Another thing, when the next Dutch ROM update comes from T-Mobile (if it ever comes) will I be able to update?

VerusAmos said:
It seems to be nice and clean... Just a heavily tweaked ROM.
But these are Diamond ROM's, are they good for the MDAcompactIV?
Another thing, when the next Dutch ROM update comes from T-Mobile (if it ever comes) will I be able to update?
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I also got a MDA Compact IV...since 2 weeks I run the aztor v11 rom, and man what a difference. Much faster.
Just try..

Okay, all good.
But here comes the noob question... I already dl-ed the [rar] file, there's a [exe] file in the as well as a [nbh] file. Are these the only files needed for flashing my rom? How do I do it? Do I run the [exe] file on my PC or my phone?
Tnx in advance...

Ok, I've tried two times to do the update as I just ran the [exe] file on my PC, but I get the [262] update error.
When it updating the bar sticks on 0%, as well on my phone. Luckily after detaching the battery for 3 seconds, my phone just soft resets. What now???

I've done some research but with all the different versions and languages I got really confused. I need another spl to install the [nbh] in order to update the X2 update. But I cant find a way to run the [nbh] file.
I'm also afraid that I'll ruin my MDA. So I searched for a original spl and ROM, but I can't seem to find the right one. I also unable to determine which spl I have on my MDA. It should be a dutch T-Mobile ROM (& spl???). The warranty period isn't over yet so I might need it. (But I hope not of course).
This flashing thing is really confusing...

Same problem
I have exactly the same problem trying to change the ROM from uk vodaphone to Duttys V4. The strange thing for me is that I have 2 Diamonds (his and hers) and the first one went through the process like a dream.
I'd be very grateful to find a fix

VerusAmos said:
Okay, all good.
But here comes the noob question... I already dl-ed the [rar] file, there's a [exe] file in the as well as a [nbh] file. Are these the only files needed for flashing my rom? How do I do it? Do I run the [exe] file on my PC or my phone?
Tnx in advance...
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First I ran Olinex hard-spl 1.40, after that I rename the .nbh file tot DIAMIMG.NBH, copy that file to your internal storage and than flash from the internal storage. Read this
If above is still abacadabra send me a pm, then I will translate this in dutch.

best rom questions?
to find out whats best for you is to start flashing.
this question is not welcome here on this forum.
as it always end in a flame war.
thread closed.

Need your HELP??!! REVERT WM 6.5 back to original WM6...

My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??

rglive2008 said:
My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??
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First of all this is Android development so this is very offtopic. Second you hopefully can find and download the correct WM version from HTC by entering your S/N. Then I think all you need to do is to hold camera button + reset the device to enter SPL, connect to computer with USB cable and then run the installation (that you downloaded from HTC).

Hi Kalit_Kaffe, Thnx for the Help. Was helpless...thts Y had to post it here.
Anyways...is the hard reset(holding camera button...the soft buttons and stylus) the same as Factory restore??...then i wouldnt be needing the file that you mentioned for download??
Am i right?

Reset to factory defaults will not replace the 6.5 rom you have installed, you don't need to HardSPL again, that only needs to be done once.
Your best option would be to get a stock rom from the XDA Wiki pages, My advice would be either get a shipped rom that matches your carrier, or the latest generic HTC shipped rom, both can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Note that once you flash a rom a Hard reset does not remove it, only flashing another rom will do that. Also flashing a stock rom is actually one of the best ways of clearing out previous flashes.

hi
Hey man thnx a lot! really helps!

HELP!!!!!!!!!
How do I install the USB driver for HTC TyTN II, to whom I am the Android 1.5. Before that I was a Windows Mobile 6.5 and am using Microsoft ActiveSync. I would like again to get back to WM 6.5, but can not seem to connect mobile phone and computer.

You can't flash back to Windows Mobile through usb while in Android because of the driver issues. You have to either enter bootloader mode and flash, or you have to do it through your storage card. And before you post back asking me how to do that, use the search. There are instructions all over the place.

thank you very much I was able through bootloader mode

does anyone know what is the best WM for HTC taytn 2? I am installing TPC_Kaiser_Titanium_Ultimate_28002, it's not something particularly good

There is no *best* ROM. Please read threads and flash based on your needs. I think it's about time this thread be done for.

rglive2008 said:
My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??
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Looks like you need to downgrade your Hard SPL for WM6 so that it doesn't pause a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
Also there seems to be a guide for what you want. Sorry I stopped reading through the threads when I saw someone say you don't need to do anything with your hard spl.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568

Help needed reverting back to WM6.1

Hi, if anyone could please help me i would be gratefull, i recently purchased a D2 but its already preloaded with WM6.5 rom version 2.53.405.5 (76952)WWE, But i really wanted WM6.1 as, among other things, i wanted to use the handwriting rec.
does anyone know what stock rom to reload? and where i can get it? sorry to ask such a basic question.
thanks in advance,

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=613

thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
it seemed to work, all the correct messages displayed
but......
now all that happens is it turns on, shows the touch diamond2 screen, then resets
it has the following text in red in the lower left hand corner
r 3 . 43. 25 .19
g 61. 20t. 25. 10U
d 1. 39. 47382
does any one have any ideas?

Try to hard reset.

tried that before i posted
and a soft reset, and another hard reset to be sure,
i searched the forum but couldn't find any reference to that type of error either.
any ideas on how to retrieve it from paperweight mode?

Download stock ROM for your region
Unpack it with WinRar or TotalCMD
Rename RUU_signed.nbh to topaimg.nbh
Copy topaimg.nbh on your SD card
Enter bootloader (hold volume down and turn on phone) and follow instructions
edit:I guess for wm 6.1 you need lower version of SSPL

thanks dude, i used the bootloader to reinstall the latest rom from HTC.
Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE_2.53.405.5_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship
my phone is no longer a brick however i am back to square 1 in that i still have wm6.5, and i want 6.1
ive tried to reflash with the older rom fighter7139 suggested
RUU_Topaz_HTC_WWE_1.39.405.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship
but it gives me the same rebooting error.
any ideas why wont the older rom work on my phone? or if theres an alternative to that rom ?
thanks

I've loaded hardspl 1.83 and extracted the file RUU_signed.nbh and renamed it to topaimg.nbhand,
i moved it to the SD card, reflashed the phone with the 6.1 rom,
but i get the same error.
any idea on what rom i should use to update from?
or what stock spl i'd need to run this rom's version of 6.1 ?

a thought
maybe i don't even need 6.1, all i want to do is to fix two things -
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
2) add handwriting recognition
- would also be nice to have the taskmanger icon, the battery icon and the original windows start menu back too, but im not dependent on them....
so i guess any rom would do that allows these functions, any help or info on this would be much appriciated

terminalkhaos said:
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
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Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3771519&postcount=2991
2) add handwriting recognition
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http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=0&dl_id=824

thanks for that, however that was the first thing i tried, i saw the download for the handwriting ap just after i got the phone, not knowing it didnt have it when i swapped from my diamond,
the thing is the update only works on certian AP version control builds -
the message on the site is -
Note: AP version control -> The criterion will pass if the Touch Input for Pocket is equal to Version 2.1 (Build1919.1320), or lower.
mines a higer version, which i assumed originally had to do with it being wm6.5 not 6.1,
- i have tried downloading and installing anyway but it wont load.
does anyone know how to get this update to load, or how to change the AP version control back to a lower version ?????
any help would be much appriciated.

if it matters,
i'm running Duttys HG, and ive flashed to hardspl,
i don't mind flashing back to whatever, i just really need the handwriting app

The handwriting SIP is likey hidden.
There is a reg edit to unhide, just search SIP Reg Edit and you should find it.
If I recall it was under the WM general tweaks.

thanks for that, i got the letter and block rec working, but still not the transcriber the reg key shows it should be showing, but i think the actual file may not be there,

fixed after changing the reg, and downloading the update, you then need this transcriber cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3661845&postcount=47732
result

Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.

TheNorthSideWhiteGuy said:
Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.
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Start here.
Once you unlock your phone, you can flash to anything you want.
6.5 is hands down better than 6.1, there are 6.5.219xx builds that have the drop down start menu.

Thanks Bruce!
For some reason I couldn't find a good Pure forum, so that link helps a lot.