ATT nexus one & kernels/ROMs - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

will the existing nexus one kernels/roms work with the att nexus one or is the difference in radio band a show stopper? Just ordered the att nexus one, and currently have a rooted Droid - not sure i could go back to an unrooted & unmod'ed phone

I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.

No he means the verison thats comming out to be compatible with AT&T's 3G network

It doesn't seem as though Google released a different set of kernel sources for the AT&T Nexus One, so I would assume that all current ROMs are compatible with the new hardware revision.
I just ordered one, by the way.
will the existing nexus one kernals
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In for one I want to flash the HTC Desire firmware on there ASAP so I have full Exchange support!

kozm0naut said:
I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.
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I mean the unlocked AT&T 3G compatible Nexus One that was released today and should be on my doorstep via FedEx tomorrow.

coolbho3000 said:
..(spelin' corexion)
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sorry... KERNEL ....
my powers been out for 5 days with no end in sight, baby awake all night every night since... no internet except from my rooted droid and my tethered tilt...
... hmm "To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed." .. I joined in 2008 - how long is the verification process?

I freaking love popcorn.

Has anyone tried the latest cyanogen or baked goods on their ATT N1? I get mine tomorrow and want to make sure it is safe.

wumpscut223 said:
Has anyone tried the latest cyanogen or baked goods on their ATT N1? I get mine tomorrow and want to make sure it is safe.
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Backup your phone, and flash 5.0.4.1. If it works, great! If not? Restore your backup.
Only one way to find out! I get my ATT n1 tomorrow as well. It's going to make my current n1 sad.

kozm0naut said:
I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.
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Yes, it does now. It's a different model.
So the question remains - are the roms/procedures the same?

i got my att n1 today and the first thing i did was flashed cm 5.0.5 test 2 on it and all i can say its behaving just like the t-mobile one.
im loving the ability to use rogers 3g network since i hate using wifi.

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Skyrocket tool to port ROM

I am positive that I came across a thread in the Skyrocket section that was titled for and provided a tool to port any Skyrocket ROM to ....? (some device that I can't recall). I can't find it now (been searching about 45 mins) but am positive it was there. Anyone know what I am referring to?
My point to the above is that it would seem with the similar hardware that tool could be used (with some modification) to port to the i957. I have a current interest in this as I hope to pick an i957 up soon.
*I came across the tool because I recently got an ATT Note and DT at droidhive ported a Skyrocket rom to it (which was showing before droidhive was hacked). I went looking around to see what was interesting in the skyrocket area here and found the tool. Really wish I would have noted the url.
Jiggity Janx said:
I am positive that I came across a thread in the Skyrocket section that was titled for and provided a tool to port any Skyrocket ROM to ....? (some device that I can't recall). I can't find it now (been searching about 45 mins) but am positive it was there. Anyone know what I am referring to?
My point to the above is that it would seem with the similar hardware that tool could be used (with some modification) to port to the i957. I have a current interest in this as I hope to pick an i957 up soon.
*I came across the tool because I recently got an ATT Note and DT at droidhive ported a Skyrocket rom to it (which was showing before droidhive was hacked). I went looking around to see what was interesting in the skyrocket area here and found the tool. Really wish I would have noted the url.
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I have both the skyrocket and the i957. I believe the thread you are referring to was a tool to port T989 (Tmobile) to I727 (ATT) and vice versa. I am also interested in porting skyrocket roms to the i957. I think the difficulty lies in the fact that the i957 only has a honeycomb kernel, and using the skyrocket ICS kernel could cause a brick. I would like to look into it further though, and may inquire within the skyrocket forums later today.
Yeah finally found the hellraiser tool again. Forgot they never released hc source so porting is a pain. Good luck with the other forum. I got my Note the day ics rolled out so maybe i will buy the 957 soon and bring us all some good fortune.
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Yeah finally found the hellraiser tool again. Forgot they never released hc source so porting is a pain. Good luck with the other forum. I got my Note the day ics rolled out so maybe i will buy the 957 soon and bring us all some good fortune.
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Kernel source for the Honeycomb i957 kernel can be had directly from Samsung's open source release site:
http://opensource.samsung.com
Yea hc source has been out a while
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That's right. They were going to release it after ICS. Been that long since I thought about it although I think now only having HC on a tablet I'm buying will keep me up every night. :crying:
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That's right. They were going to release it after ICS. Been that long since I thought about it although I think now only having HC on a tablet I'm buying will keep me up every night. :crying:
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Honeycomb is actually pretty sweet on a tablet, and the i957 ICS update from Samsung is currently in test at ATT.
If you want a hacker's tablet, get a tegra-based tab already supported by Cyanogenmod
nrvate said:
Honeycomb is actually pretty sweet on a tablet, and the i957 ICS update from Samsung is currently in test at ATT.
If you want a hacker's tablet, get a tegra-based tab already supported by Cyanogenmod
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Thanks for the heads up but I def have done a lot of research. I want the ATT LTE version for the cpu (not a tegra fan). I'm not even on ATT so I will just use it with my vzw Mifi like my Note. I really wish Verizon would get a phone with a decent screen size (phablet). I know the dev community for the i957 is small but will be fine with it at least on ICS with it debloated and deodexed. I don't want honeycomb because I always immed increase the dpi in ics/jb so nothing shows in tablet mode. I can't stand tablet mode and small icons.
*Plus since it's Qualcomm I'm hoping I can reverse the work done getting Bionic to work on GSM and maybe get this puppy and my Note working on Verizon. Maybe not possible but I'm willing to tinker...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714
EDIT: Unlike GSM the CDMA networks have a database of MEID/ESN numbers that they allow to activate. Maybe I can get away with using my SIM that's already activated in a verizon phone. Part of the trick is to not go through the activation when updating the radio. Who knows...
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I can't stand tablet mode and small icons.
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100% with you on this, I hate having to wear glasses to read crap on my tab. A big part of the reason I got it is so I can read on it and pinch zoom the text bigger, but more than half the apps are unreadable.
I can't wait til you get this working.
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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dan-htc-touch said:
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Interesting! That gives me ideas.
dan-htc-touch said:
check the note dev area, there is a tut for tmobile 3g, i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well. Already excited about trying this stuff out and don't even have a 8.9 yet.
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Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well. Already excited about trying this stuff out and don't even have a 8.9 yet.
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What's the point of different radios?
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orlandoxpolice said:
What's the point of different radios?
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If at&t note radios work on the 8.9 that just might open the door for a working phone.
Big emphasis on maybe.
Otherwise I dunno.
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i have flashed note radios on my tab 8.9
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Hopefully this means if I can get my Note working on vzw using the reverse qualcomm hack for bionic I can flash the radio to the 8.9 and that would work as well.
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If at&t note radios work on the 8.9 that just might open the door for a working phone.
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If dan-htc has already flashed Note radios on the 8.9 then likely flashing the current Note radio would be a step toward getting working ATT network phone capability on the 8.9. Not sure about the required hardware related pieces that may or may not exist in the 8.9.
For my purposes - There is a firmware hack that gets a qualcomm chipset with only cdma radio firmware to work on a gsm network. I'm hoping the similar qualcomm chipset found in the Note and/or 8.9 currently only with gsm radio firmware can be hacked to work on a cdma network. I only need the hack to allow for data so any additional hardware in the device that may be required for voice won't matter.
So basically I hope to get an ATT Note and/or ATT 8.9 working with a VZW sim card for data.
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So basically I hope to get an ATT Note and/or ATT 8.9 working with a VZW sim card for data.
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Did you ever get this working? I'm particularly interested in getting the tab 8. 9 working with a verizon sim

Can this device the 4G one work on tmobile Hugh speed network?

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Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mhz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
BriCo84 said:
WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
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Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
cambertoe said:
Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
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This is great to hear. I am going to hold off for now, as I would have to open a TMobile account, and I really dont NEED to have this until I start traveling in a few months.
Now what would be AMAZING, is if somehow this tablet could work on verizon. I have a huge corporate account with them and it would cost me next to nothing to add the tablet to the account, assuming it would work. I didn't think it was possible, but then again, I didn't think TMobile high speed connection was possible either.
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
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Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
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I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
cambertoe said:
I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
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What about the LTE radios?
Thanks for the reply. Bought one already and hacking it today. Going to do the same thing i did to
Att's note, radio flash!
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cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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BriCo84 said:
What about the LTE radios?
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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
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I can tell you that this is legit. this is what I did. After paying I had the code in minutes and it worked
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I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
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As I said that is impossible because the carriers use incompatible setups. SIM card carriers (GSM) will only work with other SIM card carriers. Verizon uses CDMA with no SIM cards. The networks themselves are completely different and hardware cannot be hacked to work. Most of the world uses GSM with SIM cards and if you travel overseas, you'll need a GSM device to use unlocked devices on any networks. Blame Verizon for picking a standard that 80% of the world doesn't use
Has anyone tried flashing the tmobile high speed radio but on the current rooted stock ICS rom instead of the cm10 rom?
In other words, i have a stock rooted sgh-i957 on samsungs ICS rom and i want to be able to use tmobile high speed network (HSPA+). Does anyone know if thats possible?
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[Q] What can I do with Developer edit. and...?

Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
saco274 said:
Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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1. You can get lte if your in a lte area. You will get hspa if your in a Markey with the 1900 band
2. You can flash roms kernels and radios now with s on
3. Prob no need for s off anymore
4. Put in the SIM should be auto or just Google it
5. Squaretrade.com
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I am still struggling, some people say that you will never get 3g, but yes on 4g, some other says that you will never get both of them since you are Tmobile. I can tell you, I have Tmobile wiht my HTC One Dev edition and I am getting HSDPA, and I pretty happy wiht that, but I am also worried why we are not getting 4G, so I also have started reading about that, the specs are almost the same, but it looks like the problem is the radio installed in the dev edition. So it look like if some dev are able to pull the radio out of the Tmobile HTC One version and try to adapt it or maybe directly installed in out dev edition it will work. I heard this a couple of days ago from another topic in this forum.
Good luck:good:
So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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Wow... when you say neither that's pretty scary. I certainly hope that's not the case. I live in NJ in a 1900 rich area. I really do hope we can get LTE and hspa+. I told my wife we are getting 4g with these new phones but I guess I read wrong. We're coming from Sprint so even if we get hspa+ it's a major improvement.
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So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
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So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
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You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
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You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
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I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
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I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
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I have not either, but based on current information to go by that's all we have. I think the only way we could tell for sure is a complete tear down of each model, but so far that has not been accomplished. If there are any variations in the hardware we'd see them and could say "It isn't going to work". If there is no difference then it has to be software/firmware thing.

(small rant)4.2.2 update

Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
oh shush
4 letters : CDMA. I am never buying another CDMA phone.
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Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
Kraizk said:
INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
GSM's have all the fun
Rirere said:
Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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Definitely. Sprint has been on top of updates. The only reason we see delays is because it's not a one-sided thing, the carrier AND manufacturer have to work together on it.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
eXplicit815 said:
Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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exactly
you can never predict htc and their ways
eXplicit815 said:
Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
I just want the kernel so we can run the GE. Love sense but love simplicity too. And before anyone links to an aosp Rom or CM... I mean something fully functional with everything working AS IT SHOULD.
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Rirere said:
Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
Rirere said:
Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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nedirinc the
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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You realize LTE is the progression of GSM? Where did you get your information CDMA is a superior technology. Qualcomm abandoned their extension of CDMA into the 4G realm. I'm pretty sure you're misinformed.
What Sprint is doing with their NV upgrades is good, but I can assure you CDMA isn't where you want to be.
Kraizk said:
You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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Same for you: I'm not saying you're blaming Sprint either, but noting alternative reasons the update is a bit delayed.
jcwxguy said:
You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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Thank you for the news flash? I'm pretty sure that the people reading this thread know enough about the carriers to not be confused by that post.
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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Your comment about GSM being outdated and inferior to CDMA is probably one of the most ludicrous claims I have ever seen.... Especially when LTE we all want so badly is based off of this technology and is REQUIRED for it to work.... Hence the added SIM cards in Sprint and Verizon phones.... That single fact alone makes your comment flat out wrong.
Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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BrianBaker said:
I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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No sharing and or caring on this guys part i see.
O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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I'll buy you a rack of beer!

[Q] double layered question about rooting and usage

Hi
I am having a rough time finding the right phone. First I bought a oneplus one used it on Tmobile and had trouble with coverage AND wifi call wouldnt work because no Tmoble phone.
Then I got the Moto X and loved it, but on Verizon and no way to root. And back it goes.......
Now I am playing with the thought getting a Nexus 6.
Question 1 : I understand I can root that and it comes unlocked from T-mobile right? ( traveling a lot and need a phone I can slap a sim in while I am traveling).
Question 2. : can I after I rooted it still use the wifi call feature?
Thanks in advance
K
Yes to both of your questions. Though #2 will only be available here in the USA I think...
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BRKotucs said:
Yes to both of your questions. Though #2 will only be available here in the USA I think...
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Thanks, that will do just fine. If I travel i know things are not always prefect.
Do you own and like it?
hungarian said:
Question 2. : can I after I rooted it still use the wifi call feature?
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Once rooted wifi calling should still work. It has on every other T-Mobile device, at least that I know of. You can probably flash custom ROMs and kernels while keeping it as well, at least in theory.
That said, the Nexus 6 doesn't have wifi calling yet. It is supposed to come early 2015 in an OTA, but as of today there is no wifi calling feature on the Nexus 6. So if wifi calling as an extremely important factor, the Nexus 6 may not be for you just yet.
cupfulloflol said:
Once rooted wifi calling should still work. It has on every other T-Mobile device, at least that I know of. You can probably flash custom ROMs and kernels while keeping it as well, at least in theory.
That said, the Nexus 6 doesn't have wifi calling yet. It is supposed to come early 2015 in an OTA, but as of today there is no wifi calling feature on the Nexus 6. So if wifi calling as an extremely important factor, the Nexus 6 may not be for you just yet.
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oh hell..... thanks.....I nearly pulled the trigger on that phone,
I am getting tired....really.....I will keep my old Note2

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