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What counts as trolling?

If I were to in insult the HTC HD2 would I be considered trolling?
If I praised it instead, would I be considered trolling to?
If took a dump on the iPhone, would I be a troll?
If I praised the iPhone, would I be a troll?

Well, I think the context certainly helps in determining whether something is trolling, as is the way one says it. If you talk about how great the iPhone is in a respectful manner and in the General Discussion subforum or the Off-Topic subforum, that's not really trolling at all. If you go to the HD2 subforum and make a thread that's about how the iPhone is so much better than Windows Mobile, and how the HD2 sucks so much, there's no doubt about it that you're trolling.
It's the same if you go to an iPhone forum and create threads talking about how the HD2 is so much better than their stupid iPhones. All four situations you listed could be done in a manner that would be considered offensive/trolling, and all four could be done in a respectful manner in the appropriate places and be more or less acceptable for that forum.

I think DaveTheTytNIIGuy pretty much sums it up. The context is all important.
I tend to think of Trolls as folk who are being unnecessarily black and white about something and posting it where common sense would tell you it will stir up animosity rather than measured discussion.
Another mark of Trolls for me is their past posting history. Do they always post controversial, argument-enciting posts, or are they most often calm sensible posters. Just sometimes what can look like a Troll post is actually a bit of a vent by a normally sensible person who for whatever reason has become very frustrated.
A person with only 10 posts all of which stir up controversy is probably a Troll.
A person with a few hundred calm, sensible posts and one that is "having-a-go" at something, is not a Troll and should be read carefully without letting your emotions run high.
JMHO
Mike

IMHO, I would add to that;
excessive use of inappropriate language (cursing/swearing)
gender and ethnic profiling
provoking/inciting comments about a fellow member and/or viewpoint
intentionally fueling an already volatile discussion
Essentially ... a 'NO' answer to this question: "If I respond in this manner, will it contribute to the discussion at hand in a positive fashion?"

As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335

XDA devs is one of the few forums that doesn't warrant my trolly side.
I see no reason to rile anyone up here, we're all in the same boat and are generally intelligent people who are on a quest for knowledge, holding their devices in high regard!
That said, OP, you sound like a clueless 12-year old spamming newbie! Only an 1337-speaking loser would post an iPhone thread on XDA whining about how Apple is better than HTC, and place it in the wrong forum. LAME. You then continued to bump your thread with a double-posted off-topic "YOU ALL SUCK" message in all caps, uninteresting with a mean tone of voice, with no information that was true.
You must now apologize to everyone in this forum, post something relevent, then give up your AOL internet account. After that, you must bust up your modem then eat it, and go stand in the middle of an intersection. If that doesn't work, then jump into a bathtub holding your monitor.
After posting something relevant, you must never post again (take your crap somewhere else), and go play with your Dress-Up Barbie because your IQ is about 6. Get a life, man! I pity your family! Just please, do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment.
Thank you for your cooperation

denco7 said:
As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
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Good 'ol trolling!!! What a joy

The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.

SMS92 said:
The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!! that made my monday!!

This thread is fake and gay.
That's some classic trolling.

I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.

RickAstley said:
I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Rick Astley has a "boyfriend" that like Iphones!!!
That explains a lot of the 80's behavior

RickAstley said:
But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.

SMS92 said:
Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
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+1
Second that!!
This is how my cry sounded when I was offered an Iphone insted os a WinMO phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo&feature=related

JAguirre1231 said:
This thread is fake and gay..
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We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike

mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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ouch!

mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.

JAguirre1231 said:
It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better

stylez said:
But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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Only on video, which leads into the next common trolling phrase:
Pics or gtfo.

I do have difficulty sometimes with this topic. I oftentimes just post my true opinions and people have called it trolling. I sometimes can filter but sometimes I'm just putting in my two sense. I saw the thread on Iceland photos and wanted to post my thoughts on Iceland that I don't really care if that country sank and was completely eliminated, but I stopped myself, thinking that it would be misinterpreted as trolling.

The populairty of apple explained, despite the 4g

Hey guys i just posted an article on my blog that i thought you may want to read, this is not mindless advertising, im a member and spend alot of my time on the xperia x10 forums, and im an android fanboy.
Heres an exert from my latest blog
"Anyone who lives 150,000,000 miles from the sun has heard of the company known as Apple, but as to why anyone would name a Computer company after a fruit is beyond me. Seriously; its like calling your Brothel "Taco-Hutt" or a photocopy company "nine inch nails" and dont you dare start preaching metaphors at me about how apples are seen as a sign of healthyness or purity Steve Jobs is neither healthy or pure, the douchebag visits the hospital more than a double dialysis patient not to mention his response to any crisis is "your (you; the customer, the one whos always right) doing / holding it wrong!"
And do not get me started on Wozniak the guy looks like he ran the HR department at the Darma Initiative.
So yes, Orange computers in known by all, it is also purchased by all, every Tom, Nick, Sarah, Harry, Muhammad, Hiemlic and Talesh seems to own either an iphone or ipod these days and so we end up with what im coining as the "Avatar-Occurence" ~ where something is so popular for no real justifiable reason but because it is now popular it is bought by more people and it becomes self-perpetualating. ~
So the point im trying to make is that a Popular company isnt neccessarily a good company, look at British Petroleum ffs!
From the stand point of a G33K like me there are 3 things Bananna Computers does; that gets on my tits, grinds my gears, ****s me right off, makes me want to cause a scene and an arms race.
My 3 pet peeves about Pear Computers are
1) The sheer arogance of their Marketting
2) absolutely shoddy product design.
3) PR, so ****! that pedophiles who live near Kindergartens could teach apple how to handle people.""
to read the rest hit up
http://moose.frazer.co.nz/
let me know what you think
this is an anti - apple article btw

...ew it's an apple fanboy...​

...and he doesn't sound British!!!....​

It's an invader!​

I sense 2 thread jackers

htc fan89 said:
I sense 2 thread jackers
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yeah i think so too

I sense your senses are sensing correctly.
Honestly, I didn't even read the OP lmaoo. I thought Apple and thought ew.

its an anti apple article FYI

... You surely don't like apple (or sound british) Yesterday I went to the grocery store, and this lady was waiting in line. I took a quick glance at what she was holding and it turned out to be a new iPhone 4 right. So after I look away (total time was like 4 Miliseconds) she starts looking at me and then everyone around her as if she was looking for some attention about having the new iPhone..... sheesh..... people.........​

Purple you should have slapped some sense into the woman, Get it Sense (Htc Sense)

iphone people think they have the best phones ever
THEY DON'T

I like OPs post
very true and funny and even more BRITISH

htc fan89 said:
Purple you should have slapped some sense into the woman, Get it Sense (Htc Sense)
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Well..... my Nexus does'nt have sense.....

PurpleSmurfLlama said:
Well..... my Nexus does'nt have sense.....
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you can download the desire rom on it....

Zac.Santer said:
you can download the desire rom on it....
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It's not rooted and im not planning on rooting for a while.

PurpleSmurfLlama said:
It's not rooted and im not planning on rooting for a while.
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when i got mine i rooted straight away
it was fun

If I had one I'd root it right out of the box.

G1BRICKED said:
If I had one I'd root it right out of the box.
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just like I did

You're a smart kid. Now move aside and let the adults talk (lmaoo xD)
Guns don't hurt people. People hurt people.

G1BRICKED said:
You're a smart kid. Now move aside and let the adults talk (lmaoo xD)
Guns don't hurt people. People hurt people.
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oh now i wish i didn't tell you my age
i trusted you people
sniff sniff lol

Is it just a rumer that Steve jobs is gonna die?

From what I have heard on some news sites on the internet, Steve jobs only has weeks to live. It is about his cancer which is eventualy killing him. I don't like him at all but if it is true, I do find it sad to hear. I would never wish this on anyone.
http://www.longislandpress.com/2011...r-national-inquirer-says-steve-jobs-is-dying/
This news is starting to pop up all over the internet.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App

Well from what I heard on teh interwebz Elvis is a hermaphrodite who works in my local chip shop and hitler had a pet unicorn......
Call me old fashioned but I don't think this is a particularly useful or apropriate use of a thread.

conantroutman said:
Well from what I heard on teh interwebz Elvis is a hermaphrodite who works in my local chip shop and hitler had a pet unicorn......
Call me old fashioned but I don't think this is a particularly useful or apropriate use of a thread.
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your are old fashioned but i find nothing wrong with this in off topic

I don't see anything I done wrong as you should see other threads in the forums, some are just bonkers, also this is off topic
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Heck, the off-topic Mafia's Cook has no problem with this topic, so what's the big deal? It is semi-relevant, because love him or hate him, he started the REAL touchscreen trend. I'd imagine that Android would be using full physical keypads instead of touchscreen if it wasn't for iPhail, despite the general opinion of its usefulness.
Anyway, the rumour that Mr Jobs is dying is unconfirmable, as the original source is National Enquirer, which is a tabloid magazine. And the doctor who said he's dying based his opinion on pictures of Steve Jobs. Pictures.
Make of it what you will.

There's all kinds of wild speculation flying around out there right now. The list of people who actually know what's the case is likely very small.
What really gets me though is the sheer hatred and malicious ill-wishing I've seen going on out there about Mr. Jobs. I think there a lot of jealous, personally insecure folk out there, and that's actually pretty sad. I mean, by way of example, I hate Microsoft and strongly dislike the attitude and actions of Bill Gates, but you won't find me wishing death upon the man, or anything of the sort on his family or friends.
It's clear that we have a lot of dangerous, irrational people out there, and this makes me sad.

love seein the closet apple fans coming out on this thread like cockroaches for some smelly cheese .. get outta here

I have been keeping an eye on news sites and stuff now for 48hrs and I still not convinced. If Steve was really going to die, I think it would be all over the news by now.
Although, that being said, he is a very ill man and if he were to pass away soon I would not be surprised.
Personally i don't like apple and I don't like Steve jobs like I said at the beginning of this thread but he still is a human being and I hope it is not true.
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We are all going to die.
I hope this isn't news to you!

DirkGently1 said:
We are all going to die.
I hope this isn't news to you!
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That is true but it is how you die. Cancer sucks
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Read on a Danish tech news blog that this is confirmed just to be a rumor.

Long live steve??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Enquirer
They have had a few lawsuits.

yea going out by cancer sucks. i dont care who you are or what you have done. i would never wish that on someone.
well maybe a few people, but not steve.

flyboyovyick said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Enquirer
They have had a few lawsuits.
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and quite a number of hits too

souljaboy said:
love seein the closet apple fans coming out on this thread like cockroaches for some smelly cheese .. get outta here
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No offense, but the topic is about a mans life. I don't think anyone here(Or I hope anyone wouldn't) wish something like this on anyone else. That post comes off as very rude.

I saw that article featured on gizmodo.
It's probably a rumor unless you believe that 2 "prominent" cancer doctors saying that Steve Jobs has weeks left to live by, if you can believe it,
looking at photos of his ass from his jeans.
so I don't think Steve has weeks to live. The national enquirer is 99.99% bs.

vbetts said:
No offense, but the topic is about a mans life. I don't think anyone here(Or I hope anyone wouldn't) wish something like this on anyone else. That post comes off as very rude.
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good job reading i didnt even mention steve in my post

I'm just curious as to how good Android would have been without the iPhone as a big fat target to shoot for. Apple would be no where near as influential or profitable, imho, without Jobs at the helm. Granted, he may piss on his customers opinions, i.e. antennagate, yer holdin' it wrong!, but the fact remains that if Apple wasn't pushing out quality products the whole community would be lesser for it.

totally agree...
Apple first don'd the PDA term back in 1992 around the release of the Newton message pad.
On another note.
I can't understand why anyone could say that don't like someone if they have never met in person...

I hope he spent his last dying breath well

I'm not one to normally start things here, but, wow.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/21/steve-jobs-biography-reveals-reflections-on-apple-contempt-for-android/
"Our lawsuit is saying, ‘Google you **** ripped off the iPhone, wholesale ripped us off,’” Jobs said, according to Isaacson. “I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product.”"

Look who's talking *cough*notificationbar*cough*
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It was obvious he was out to destroy Google, and anyone else who dared compete against apple. Funny thing is apple has been taking aspects of android for a while but its ok.

Methinks this is a joke

“Hewlett and Packard built a great company, and they thought they had left it in good hands,” Jobs told Isaacson. “But now it’s being dismembered and destroyed.”
“I hope I’ve left a stronger legacy so that will never happen at Apple,” he added.
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Reminds me of hot fuzz
But it must be a joke.. I mean.. Really? xD

Well, I don't think that any of Apple's claims have any ground, so....

It's true!
http://pocketnow.com/iphone/steve-jobs-im-going-to-destroy-android-biography
Sorry but that B*strd! Comptetion is a good thing , not something you spend your last breath trying to destroy, I mean if he really did want to do that he could've ran round the Googleplex with petrol and a match... (PS. That would be hillarious to watch)
Also lol at the first comment
Nah, he is right, Android stole many IOS features, i can now quickly think of the pulldown notification bar .... oh, wait ...
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And I will leave you all with this

[REQUEST]Apple vs. All timeline?

Hey all,
Recently I have been researching the big hub-bub going on where Apple is suing everyone in sight (my poor attempt at humor). Next thing you know, the guy that invented the Slinky will be getting a subpoena to testify for Apple. I have been VERY busy with the crazed thing I call a life and need a little help here. I am not very delved deep into this massive debate going on between Apple and Google, Samsung, HTC. The thing I request is a "timeline" to loosely term it. Don't automatically discount me as some "lazy" person. I just need the expertise of someone with their nose in this doggy doodoo pile, so to speak. I don't really ask for much, but I haven't followed the battle since the start so my ability to effectively chronologically order the major lawsuits and actions taken by all sides is next to nil. I don't need anything fancy, hell a text file written with Notepad will do, as long as the information is FACTUAL and ordered correctly. If you feel like composing a flashy Powerpoint then by all means do so, but it's not needed. The major points will be elaborated upon and condensed in a 15-20 page Powerpoint by me. Anyways, back to work since my professors getting on my a** about being on XDA.
Thanks, worldindo1.

Edit: Actually, I'll let you find out for yourself

There's this cool website that has all this information.
http://www.google.com
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Here is a link that should help you.
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=apple+lawsuit+timeline

Archer said:
Edit: Actually, I'll let you find out for yourself
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Wow! I'm surprised this thread survived, or was a Mod actually hoping for a mini flame war to break out

Simon.TS.HTC said:
Wow! I'm surprised this thread survived, or was a Mod actually hoping for a mini flame war to break out
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Mods have a "thread closing quota" and I'm nearing my TCQ for the week. I have to slow down or I won't be able to close the really important ones

85gallon said:
Here is a link that should help you.
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=apple+lawsuit+timeline
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And from this we get:
http://www.timetoast.com/timelines/apple-vs-the-world
Tada!

MissionImprobable said:
And from this we get:
http://www.timetoast.com/timelines/apple-vs-the-world
Tada!
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There's way more than that, way way more

Well of course, but that thing is a pretty good overview for those who are too lazy to compile on their own.

That might be the suits in the state of Georgia. I know for sure it's not worldwide.

Well since the OP hasn't come back to see if any donkeys would do his work for him, I'll post my original response.
Me said:
So, basically, you're asking someone to do your homework for you and you'd prefer a nice flashy presentation if that's possible.
Would you like fries with that?
Sorry - Google and research. That's why they call it research. (I'm also doing you a favour because this thread has troll-bait smeared all over it!!)
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