Android Push email - Touch CDMA Android Development

I fell in love with seven beta with winmo and I told everyone about it and they love it. Since i run both android and winmo I needed it for android and guess what it is free for android too and works just as well in android. Go to their site register your device you can dl it directly to your device via sms or access site through phone browser. I have 6 email accounts(yahoo,gmail, and aol) with (as real as it gets without a blackberry) push email working in winmo and android, dual boot. Here is the link enjoy
http://community.seven.com/main.php
You must register so it knows your device and will keep track of what email addresses you have. This is convenient if you reinstall the app it will already have a record of your email addresses on record.
Just a note the registration process when you install it is a international text so you will see a $.20 charge on your bill or whatever you get charged for international texts as it is based overseas. I can vouch for the program as I have used it everyday since December 2007.
********DO NOT USE THIS PROGRAM IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN UNLIMITED TEXTING PLAN AS MESSAGES ARE SENT FAST BECAUSE THEY ARE SENT VIA AN SMS ON THE BACKEND*********

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New To Push Email - Please Help

Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
Hi,
Push Email (or "DirectPush" as Microsoft seem to call it) only works in conjuction with an Exchange server I'm afraid. It doesn't work with POP3 boxes.
There are probably some companies offering POP3-->Exchange services for people like yourself wanting push email who don't have Exchange (or there will likely be some) but I don't personally know of any at the moment.
DirectPush works by connecting to an HTTP server (Exchange) and keeping the connection open/idle until something changes then a ActiveSync is performed. The POP3 protocol simply doesn't have anything to allow you to keep it open without sending something constant to keep it alive which would seriously add up on the traffic.
thanks xanth
I'm actually gonna have an Exchange Server 2003 soon. I read that I need SP2 installed aswell
Where do I go from there then? ie configuring my k-jam.
Configuring the mobile devices themselves isn't particularly hard. When you set up the sync instead of syncing with Outlook you specify with an Exchange server and just follow the prompts. It seems to connect/realise DirectPush (SP2) is available and that's it. You configure the schedule... and away it goes.
I found setting up the server was the hardest part. Well not hard, just more time consuming. You'll want/need to create you own SSL certificate (which will need installing on the device) unless you're purchasing a commercial one and configure the IIS timeout value (I'm still experimenting with this one) and then finally actually turn on DirectPush from System Manager. I think that was pretty much it though. Configuring Exchange etc in the first place takes more time than setting up push.
I'll have a pop and let you know..... thanks
I am trying out a commercial hosted exchange service (www.utica.nl) now.
This works very wel, but it has a price too: 5.95 euro per month for the lite package/
Push Email works very good.
As an alternative I am thinking about setting up my own exchange server and having my company-email and calendar forwarded to that one.
What do you advise to run exchange 2003 SP2:
- Windows version / SP?
- Hardware
(I am on a 20Mb down / 2Mb up broadband connection wich allows me to run servers, so there is no issue)
Well you'll need Windows 2000 or 2003 standard server or higher (won't run on a non-server platform), but see this link for full requirements:
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreqs/2003.mspx
I am curious though, how will you forward Calendar events (and contacts?) from one system to another please? I'm not sure I'll ever want to do that, but certainly sounds like something worth knowing!
Cheers!
What would the GPRS cost be to have this open/idle connection active all day and night. Would it send check data every few minutes?
I only ask as my contract talk plan gives me 100KB of data a month for free but after that I pay in chunks.
Thanks
Ben
Here's a paper you cna read...
Mines seems to use between 6kb and 9kb an hour when idle. I wouldn't take that as a rule, just my personal experience. Obviously it goes up a lot more when the actual emails come in!
Wow that's a fantastic guide! Should be put on a new post/stickied or something! Thanks for the files!
Xanth,
That's like 5.5MB a month without a single email going over!
Guess I wont be switching it on then.
Thanks for your reply.
Ben
Well it could just be down to me having flakey service or something and it reconnecting a lot (I haven't noticed that though), but the 6 to 9 kbytes was from running GPRS Monitor and running a report and looking at the overnight hours where I know I didn't get any emails for hours on end.
Router settings
The other thing that is going to make a difference would be the setting on the server. The longer the session can be kept open between the router and the phone the least amount of data that will need to be transfered. For example 15 minutes seems a common amount of time to keep the line openm, at the end of those 15 minutes your phone will initiated a new connection i.e. traffic. Obviously the more often it does this the more traffic generated and the more power needed.
Can i push task or agenda items which are located on the public folders?
scaseman said:
Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
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The reason you want push is to receive an e-mail sent to you IMMEDIATELY The problem I see with push mail is you can't really use forwarding between services because it adds delays that defeat the point of it. It is not essential to have Exchange but most current systems employ it
So you need to implement push using your current e-mail address and provider for best performance
For example if you use a specific e-mail address for all your mail that is what you need to access if you don't want to change your e-mail address
If your e-mail provider uses IMAP there is a solution. It started off fairly shakey but has got quite reliable - it's vgsmail (www.vgsmail.com\ppc)
It uses IMAP idle to connect to your current e-mail (assuming IMAP support) and WORKS
As said using this is the best way of avoiding changing e-mail address and low cost (just data costs) - uses 3or4MB a month just to work - but if you're using your pda for mail you need to be on a good tarriff --- say T-Mobile web'n'walk - soon to become ulimited.
It takes about 10-30 seconds from an e-mail being sent to my PDA notifying me --- all for a one off cost of $21
scaseman said:
Hello all,
I need to have instant notification of my emails and thought the only way was Blackberry until I heard of Push Email.
I have a K-Jam with the latest imate os. I've read that this version has push email with it but cant see it in the programs or anything.
What do I need to install etc to recieve emails from my ISP. What backend setup do I need? I have a pop 3 account that is web based too and i am on the O2 network in the UK
Thanks for your help guys.
Scaseman
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The reason you want push is to receive an e-mail sent to you IMMEDIATELY The problem I see with push mail is you can't really use forwarding between services because it adds delays that defeat the point of it. It is not essential to have Exchange but most current systems employ it
So you need to implement push using your current e-mail address and provider for best performance
For example if you use a specific e-mail address for all your mail that is what you need to access if you don't want to change your e-mail address
If your e-mail provider uses IMAP there is a solution. It started off fairly shakey but has got quite reliable - it's vgsmail (www.vgsmail.com\ppc)
It uses IMAP idle to connect to your current e-mail (assuming IMAP support) and WORKS
As said using this is the best way of avoiding changing e-mail address and low cost (just data costs) - uses 3or4MB a month just to work - but if you're using your pda for mail you need to be on a good tarriff --- say T-Mobile web'n'walk - soon to become ulimited.
It takes about 10-30 seconds from an e-mail being sent to my PDA notifying me --- all for a one off cost of $21
My hosted exchange trial gave e my answer: not gonna work the way I want it. The trouble is with the forwarding of calendar events (that what i want it for).
So setting up my own server will not bring any relief either.
Waiting for my company to support push or me getting a business Blackberry subscription.
Good to try anyway.
does anybody has any experience with this vgsmail stuff?
my e-mail provider supports imap and I could live with a delay of 30sec....
hi, Guys
I am using O2 XDAII unit now, and I am going to push an email to the XDAII thru GPRS. I've seen you guys' discussion above, it really gives me a clue to do the further research.
hi, Edsurb, Re: "Waiting for my company to support push or me getting a business Blackberry subscription", does it mean there are 2 ways to push an email?
(1) We can set an MS Exchange Server 2003 then do some setting in both Exchange server side and the XDA unit, I wonder if the XDA unit can get the email thru GPRS once after the email is sent, how long will it be delayed, how much it costs, it seems it is a way that the XDA unit checks the Exchange server periodically while not a true push, right?
(2) To get a blackberry subscription. Is it a true push? Can a XDAII unit get a blackberry subscription from O2 network?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!

HTC Tytn II + Blackberry Connect + AT&T = It works!

I had BBC 4.0.0.67 working on my 8525, and a couple of days ago bought the HTC Tytn II (Kaiser). On initial startup, using the SIM from my 8525, the Tytn II set up my AT&T data connection. Phone calls and 3G internet surfing worked fine. The Tytn set my data connection to use isp.cingular and I added the wap.cingular connection. I use the wap.cingular connection.
I first tried Blackberry connect 4.0.0.90 which would not connect to the BB server even though I had a good 3G internet connection. I spent an hour on the phone with AT&T who finally said it was a Blackberry problem and they transferred me to Blackberry. I spent an hour on the phone with them, and they concluded it was AT&T. Blackberry support transferred me back to AT&T. The AT&T manager basically said: we don't support a non AT&T phone on Blackberry...and we don't support blackberry connect. I will point out everyone was very nice throughout this over 2 hour ordeal.
So I removed BBC .90, cleaned out all traces, and reloaded the 4(1).0.0.84 AT&T Tilt version from the HTC America site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327695
and surprise, everything works perfectly on 3G and Edge. Blackberry BES for my work exchange email (synching email, calendar, contacts, and notes) and BIS for my personal email accounts. The Blackberry web browser also works fine.
At my firm I have the option to install BBC or Good. I have Good running but I'm wondering about BBC. Does it work like Good in that there is a separate application running that you need to open for mail/calendar/contacts, and it's not integrated into the native apps? Or is it like using a blackberry where everything is integrated. Thanks!
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
do you have an AT&T blackberry data plan?
Yes. blackberry unlimited
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
caleymac said:
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
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My guess is the author was not familiar with the WM6 environment. There is a BB icon in settings and on the bottom of the today screen, but it brings up the bbc configuraton utility. The apps are fully integrated in the native wm6 apps.
michalopoulosgk said:
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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If you use BBC to synch contacts, appointments, notes, and tasks, you cannot also synch them via activesynch/WMDC or exchange sync. It's one method or the other. I have not set up a POP account on my Tytn because I have all my personal POP email go through the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).
I'm not sure if you can exchange sync email and use BBC for email too.
matt sb said:
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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Yes, but it seems like you are limited to 32K or smaller.
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
jomo25 said:
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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That is very strange. BBC works great on mine and setup without issue.
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
jvloyola said:
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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I am using the original rom that came on the device. It took less than 5 minutes to set up.
Ditto. OEM ROM.
Has anyone used this on Tmobile? I know BB connect works on the Dash, but not on the Wing and I would hate to drop that much money to find out that it doesn't work with Tmobile.
Thanks for responding, I hope this holds true with other carrier than AT&T, I expect to have my kaiser within the next week or so, I'm in Mexico and my carrier is Telcel, I will report back as soon as I try this.
Cheers
Vinny
That's great that it was so easy to set up and use.
One question though....I have been using BbConnect on my 8525 for a while now, and always have difficulty accessing things such as Cellular Video or XM Radio or MobiTV through the Bb unlimited data plan. Usually aI have to disconnect the BB Connect service to access those.
Do you know if these services/apps work with the unlocked Tytn II and Blackberry Connect?
Thanks!
I have gotten BBC to work and I am generally pleased with it except the 32k limit sucks.
I have a couple questions that I'm wondering if anyone else has figured out.
First, my work email shows up in a folder called "Desktop" which is different that the general "Outlook Email" folder. Why is there a difference?
Also, when sending meeting invitations, I don't have the option to use the work (i.e., "Desktop") account, only the Outlook Email account which is not connected. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Thanks!

Seven (push email), Tilt and WM6.1

Anyone here using Seven on their Tilt with the new ATT Rom?
I've been using it for about 2 weeks just fine with no problems whats so ever. Now since flashing my ROM I started having issues.
The two main ones are that messages are not getting marked as read back on the server side and that composed messages are not being sent.
Anyone else here seeing this?
I am running the official ATT WM6.1 ROM.
Thanks
David
It's 6.1 that's screwed it up.....
Yeah...I had the same issue, back when I flashed my first wm 6.1 rom...I don't believe the latest version of seven's mail client is officially approved for 6.1. I ended up getting a free account on mail2web and using the aggregator service they offer to push mail from my other accounts to my Tilt by way of Active Sync. It's turned out to be a much better option, and you can't beat free. I do miss the seven client though, it's a nice peice of software.
you can get a free account with mail2web at
http://live.mail2web.com
good luck.
mandaryn said:
Yeah...I had the same issue, back when I flashed my first wm 6.1 rom...I don't believe the latest version of seven's mail client is officially approved for 6.1. I ended up getting a free account on mail2web and using the aggregator service they offer to push mail from my other accounts to my Tilt by way of Active Sync. It's turned out to be a much better option, and you can't beat free. I do miss the seven client though, it's a nice peice of software.
you can get a free account with mail2web at
http://live.mail2web.com
good luck.
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Thanks.
I have access to an Exchange account but I use Gmail for my mail and like that Seven keeps it synced up where as Exchange doesn't.
I guess for now I am going to go back to Gmail/IMAP.
David
seven working fine for me, but i'm not using the latest at&t ROM (see my sig)
In the Seven forum they say that some of the 6.1 roms do not work properly and they hope the next version, due any time, will correct this.
texas said:
Thanks.
I have access to an Exchange account but I use Gmail for my mail and like that Seven keeps it synced up where as Exchange doesn't.
I guess for now I am going to go back to Gmail/IMAP.
David
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have you considered forwarding a copy or your gmail to your exchange account, although i appreciate the mails wont be synced with your gmail account
jfran said:
have you considered forwarding a copy or your gmail to your exchange account, although i appreciate the mails wont be synced with your gmail account
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I did that for a while but got tired of trying to keep of with mail of Exchange and the Gmail. I know I'm picky. <G>
Thanks
David
I just reinstalled Seven after upgrading to 6.1 (AT&T rom) and Seven is working fine for me.
It's working fine for me on both 6.1 and 6.5 now.
However, I don't know if you all know that when you setup an email account to SEVEN, your phone automatically sends an sms to an England number +447624802625, which will charge you an international sms. This will happen when you add one and every email account. Here is the confirmation from SEVEN:
abackholm - SEVEN's Site Admin said:
First of all, thanks for everyone supporting SEVEN in participating the beta program. Your efforts have continued to help our software reach higher quality and become more reliable. Sincerely, being a non-commercial offering that does not earn SEVEN a dime, we sometimes put you in a difficult spot: the setup is not necessarily optimized for the end user, but rather to maximize feedback and exposure SEVEN gets for various features and setup configurations.
In this case, we want to test the phone number validation using SMS.
(1) In production deployments we need user's phone number (instead of IMSI) to be able to send SMS triggers that wake up the client so that there is no need for always-on data connection - to conserve bandwidth and battery.
(2) In production deployments the SMS would be zero-rated, but that's unfortunately not an option in the beta program as operators are not participating with beta testing in their mind. In such deployments, there is no need for multiple SMS-to-HTTP gateway numbers, and thus our setup only supports using one at a time. As the beta program is global in nature, majority of users will always have to use an international number.
I apologize for inconvenience this causes. I realize that those who need to reinstall the client very frequently are especially vulnerable. However, I'd like to remind that participation in the beta program is entirely voluntary.
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And luckily some solution has been found:
Hi guys, the problem is over for me as I found a trick for this. There are two ways:
1. I just install and run SEVEN with an OUT-OF-MONEY SIM so that it could not send any international sms. I don't know if you have this in your country or not but here we have 2 different accounts for one SIM, the main account and the promotion account. With the promotion account we can use most of the sms, 3g, gprs, phone services but not international sms/calls and value-added services (like buying ringtones, games etc), and the main account covers those things. So I've tried a SIM without money in the main account and everything goes great though it could not send an international sms. When I put my other SIM in, it does not request me to activate Smile
2. I've tried to install and run SEVEN without a SIM, and turn the wifi on when I add emails. SEVEN requested me to input my phone number and I did it. Then when everything is done I just insert my SIM in, and everything worked fine, no more international sms.
Cheers!!!
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I can add that I have just disabled the phone connnection and connected via wifi when adding an account. This also works.
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You can find more information from here:
http://community.seven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2749

better email program??

I switched to this phone (HTC Hero) from the Palm Pre and while the Pre had its issues it had some pluses over this phone. One being the email program. I know yahoo sux and all but this is my primary email for business and for some reason this phone constantly gives a login error when trying to get mail from it. WHY?? Also there is no push email? And is there or will there be swipe delete available, ever? I am new here and searched for emails before making this thread and nothing related came back. Thanks for any info
The "Google Mail" program (the one with the red and white envelope as an icon) does IMAP-IDLE/Push Mail. The HTC "Mail" program (the one with the mailbox as an icon) does not.
K-9 or k9mail also does Push mail (IMAP-IDLE). You can find it in the market or at http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/ . It also shows the error messages if something goes wrong, so you have a chance to correct your settings.
thanks, I appreciate the help. I don't see the option for push email in the google envelope, but I will try the other
Google doesn't call it push, its in settings>data synchronization>google>auto sync
I've tried for the last week to get the HTC mail apps to get mail pushed but resigned myself to just using the gmail app, which works great for push mail.
Google Mail seems to be most reliable for quick mail delivery, if you're stuck with a Yahoo account for business reasons you can set Yahoo Mail to auto-forward to Google Mail and then your Hero can download it from there. You can even set your reply-to address to Yahoo so it's transparent to the person emailing you.
that, or open a gmail account and have it pull stuff from yahoo, bypass yahoo all together and have either gmail activesync or htc mail checking in intervals
He shouldn't have to do this. The phone should come with a good built in mail client... The iPhone has a good mail client that can use Push GMAIL, Mobile Me etc... as well as Exchange support and iMap and Pop3 support... If HTC is going to ship phones with their own software on a device that goes outside of what is provided through the OS and Google then they should ensure the quality of that software.
itpromike said:
He shouldn't have to do this. The phone should come with a good built in mail client... The iPhone has a good mail client that can use Push GMAIL, Mobile Me etc... as well as Exchange support and iMap and Pop3 support... If HTC is going to ship phones with their own software on a device that goes outside of what is provided through the OS and Google then they should ensure the quality of that software.
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What's wrong with K9 mail? Half the reason for having such an open platform is so that developers can create their own apps and so that there is a variety of choices for end users.
People keep comparing Android phones to the iPhone without understanding that they're VERY different platforms. One is highly customizable and extensible (Android) and the other is locked down to being the same worldwide (iPhone.)
Extensibility should never come at the price of reliability and quality. BTW there are other email Apps made for the iPhone that work very well. I was just pointing out that if you're going to bundle your software and sell your product at a premium it should be good software and not works some times under certain conditions and when the stars align just right. They are different platforms yes, but quality is quality regardless of open or closed (or perceived closed... you still have to root your phone to do a a alot of this customization you speak of which is no different than jailbreaking an iPhone if you want to be objective about it). You shouldn't have to rely on third party developers to make an app because your built in app isn't exceptional quality. If you package it with your product you should be stamping and standing by the quality of your product. Developers should add new features and apps that do things better than your existing app sure, but not because your software isn't up to snuff but because your product has already set a high standard and the developers can work hard to hit or even exceed that standard. If you have to cut some features to ensure that the features that are there are done REALLY REALLY well then so be it. Quality over quantity any day. This isn't a rail on Android as an OS as much as it is a rail on HTC for charging a premium for their phones because they package their own software with the phone that 'kinda works'. Why charge that premium and add your software to an already good phone OS if you're not going to make sure it works perfectly with industry standard features out of the box.

Email weirdness with latest ROM's

I currently have the latest Energy (Feb. 27) ROM installed, but had this same issues with 2 other ROM's.
I use comcast. I have my account set up on the phone so that it leaves a copy of the email on the comcast server so that my home desktop can download it too. (I have to do this because the phone and the desktop download emails at different times). I also have the account (on the phone) set up so that it only downloads today's emails.
What the problem is, and I never had this problem on other smartphones I have used, is that once my phone downloads the email, I read it, then delete it off my phone, my phone downloads it again! Basically, I have keep the email for the whole day, NOT something I want to do!
Again, I have had a Dash 3g, a Dash, a MDM, and some other Windows mobile phones and have never had this issue. Simply, the phones email client would remember that it already had downloaded that email and not download it again, even though I deleted it on the phone.
Any ideas?
Ok. I have figured out something that is a bug with Sense.
It is only when I delete the emails via the Sense interface (whatever that is) that when the email client checks emails again, it downloads the email of the previous day.
IF I delete the email via the normal Inbox interface for Windows, the email does not get downloaded again on the next check.
I suppose now I need to inquire with the people that develope Sense about a fix for this.

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