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if i want to add a"third party" keyboard to Cyanogen's build?

if i want to add a"third party" keyboard to Cyanogen's build
how to accomplish that?
and if i want to make it the default keyboard
how to do that..?
thanks in advance
Roy

if this "third party" keyboard is an app like better keyboard or something similar, i would assume just install it or put into your update.zip package and flash it. it should appear under settings-locale and text and just check it on and uncheck any other keyboards like with the htc_ime. unless you are talking about something else then in theory this should work.

thanks for the comment
yes it is an App file.. so i just need to add it to system/app in the update?
and how i can make it the default keyboard so right after a fresh install it would appear and ready to use with specific config that i set?
thanks again

Barina said:
thanks for the comment
yes it is an App file.. so i just need to add it to system/app in the update?
and how i can make it the default keyboard so right after a fresh install it would appear and ready to use with specific config that i set?
thanks again
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I don't think you can. All roms use android kbt as default (don't quote me on this but I believe so)and it's more trouble then it's worth to make something else default before install. It would be easier to go into settings->locale and text the first time you use it and just make it default (i.e. uncheck all other VKs). Once you do that, your vk will pop up everytime you touch fill-able field. Hope that helps.

OK, I'm curious about the other keyboard. The hardware keyboard. I have a German G1, and have actually become quite fond of QWERTZ even though I mostly only speak English. I've gotten used to reaching down for y and up for z. Also, There are keys like the euro symbol that I actually use a lot living in Deutschland. Not to mention that all the little symbols are laid out completely differently than QWERTY, so looking at the keys just makes life that much tougher. Anyways, I want to change QWERTZ to be my default keyboard, other than having to type in a long string of commands each time or use gscript. I would like it to be so that it works in recovery, and doesn't get lost each time I change builds. Is this possible?

hmmm, I would say yes...I wouldn't be able to tell you how though. I downloaded Russian keyboard from the market and it has the ability to change mapping of hardware KBT and change languages on it. So obviously there is a way. I believe devs name is Game Warrior (could be one word). It's on the market... contact him-he may be able to point you in the right direction.
Also... did you try switching locales in Settings->Locale and Text menu? That could do the trick (not sure what would you choose though as I'm not familiar what country uses QWERTz set-up).
Good luck, I hope you figure it out... sorry I had it easy.. I just dl'd my vk from the market

I DID have it working when I first got my phone. Everything was just dandy with JF1.51 as well. I decided to install the latest DizzyJACHero, and had to update my recovery image, SPL and Radio. Somewhere in there, it borked things up. I tried going back to another SPL and recovery, but only ended up in bootloops when I did that. I redid everything, but I'm stuck with QWERTY unless I do some terminal stuff each time I change roms. And with all the nice new ones (I LOVE Rosie, but she's a resource/battery hog) it's becoming more frequent that I change roms. Eh, I guess I'm just stuck having to terminal my way out of it, like usual with computers.

SPL, Radio and/or Recovery image have nothing to do with the way your keyboard behaves... hmmmm
Here... talk to DudeOfLife in the developement forum (pm him or something). His rom at some point had every language and every layout included.. he should know about this. As an alternative... you can make a script of what you put in terminal and have G1 run it on start-up to change mapping for you. Rogro82 is the king of scripts fyi.
Good luck

all u need to do is istall the new keyboard as an update. thats if it come in an update.zip format. otherwise, just install the .apk file and you should be good to go. best of luck!

shelay said:
all u need to do is istall the new keyboard as an update. thats if it come in an update.zip format. otherwise, just install the .apk file and you should be good to go. best of luck!
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He is not talking about virtual keyboard... he is talking about hardware.

borodin1 said:
I don't think you can. All roms use android kbt as default (don't quote me on this but I believe so)and it's more trouble then it's worth to make something else default before install. It would be easier to go into settings->locale and text the first time you use it and just make it default (i.e. uncheck all other VKs). Once you do that, your vk will pop up everytime you touch fill-able field. Hope that helps.
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thanks a lot

Well, I actually feel kinda smart for once. I just opened up a build which had the QWERTZ files in it. I deleted everything else except that folder (and the ones inline above it) and those files. Renamed them to the v3 files. I also added in all the ringers/notifications/alarms that I wanted from other builds in the right locations as well. I now can unzip any build I want to check out, copy the system folder I created over, and it fixes all my keyboard issues, plus ensures I'm never left with just one ringtone/alarm again. Just rezip and resign, then I can flash it right over. Just verified it all worked before posting. If anyone else wants that, I recommend trying it. My next question will be, can I JUST use these files, make a new update.zip that I will flash over any existing rom. If so, I'll just make one and post it up. Well, I guess I may as well try that now. I'm not doing much else tonight.

So, quick answer, NO. It didn't work like I hoped.
Long answer, If I understood more about the update script, I may have been able to get it to work. I noticed it was formatting the System folder when it went to install, pretty much screwing EVERYthing up. Maybe if someone knows how to make the script only replace the files instead of completely wiping the system folder, I may have something others can use. As it stands, it's really useful for me, and pretty much noone else.

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So, quick answer, NO. It didn't work like I hoped.
Long answer, If I understood more about the update script, I may have been able to get it to work. I noticed it was formatting the System folder when it went to install, pretty much screwing EVERYthing up. Maybe if someone knows how to make the script only replace the files instead of completely wiping the system folder, I may have something others can use. As it stands, it's really useful for me, and pretty much noone else.
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1. Can't you put your commands (that you type in the terminal) into your userinit.sh and it will run on every start up? Not a pro about this but I think it's one way of doing it.
2. There's a guy in the development forum who will build a custom rom for you. He made a post, you should see it on first or second page. Drop him a line. He may just show the way how to do it or he may just build you a rom. Don't worry, we'll figure it out one way or another

Cool, sounds good. I was looking at the script, and it's pretty straight forward. I COULD possibly figure it out if I wanted, but I wouldn't want to put other people's phones at the risk of me being an idiot. Heh. I'll check with the other guy. Thanks

[REQ] tacile feedback (vibrate on touch)

As a winmo convert, I seriiously miss snailslug's touch response which you could set to have very soft vibrations on touch a release. Perhaps such a mod could be made for android. There is already some tactile feedback in 2.0, however I want more, everywhere, anywhere!

bump bump bump

Have a look at Accessibility->Kickback in settings. I just tried it and seems to do what you're requesting.

zer0day said:
Have a look at Accessibility->Kickback in settings. I just tried it and seems to do what you're requesting.
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nope, it actually vibrates when the screen updates, which is kind of annoying if you got the download notification showing up and you want your phone to be silent... maybe i'll write an application that does this some time, but i gotta get into the whole thing first :S

This would need to be written into the framework rather than an app. I miss that WinMo app too and it was written as a driver that's loaded by the OS. That's not really possible with Android (using a Linux kernel) therefore it needs to be written into the framework (which can only be done by Rom makers, etc).

download any rom with the spare parts app added , in there is an option called haptic feedback , .....that wut ur looking for

[MOD] request

Is there a mod currently available to lock the touchscreen by toggle, while retaining display, and ability to use trackball and keypad? Merry Xmas!! Thanx!

You could break your digitizer, try dropping it face down a few times and see if it breaks it. =p
I'm not sure which files control the touch input, and don't know if removing them will decrease stability. You could try to take a look at the disassembally guide and see if there is a hardware mod you could do as well.
But I'm sure you will get the question of why you want to do that. It sounds like you want to make it like a blackberry type phone.

evilkorn said:
You could break your digitizer, try dropping it face down a few times and see if it breaks it. =p
I'm not sure which files control the touch input, and don't know if removing them will decrease stability. You could try to take a look at the disassembally guide and see if there is a hardware mod you could do as well.
But I'm sure you will get the question of why you want to do that. It sounds like you want to make it like a blackberry type phone.
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no, i def don't want a blackberry. I would just like having the screen on without the possibility of touch input sometimes. i.e when i put it in my pocket for a sec without locking the phone and bring it out and it's adding a widget, or on another screen. while using the keyboard it would also be nice to be able to lock the touch, especially if you are typing in more than one session so you cant disturb it by inadvertent swipes or touches. anyways it's just an idea and not something i'm willing to start breaking parts of my g1 to see if it will work. thought maybe someone else had the idea or maybe there was an app for that

How to go about modding the on screen keyboard?

Ok so I have been searching the forums and I cannot find an exact answer for what I want to change so if this is a problem that had already been solved, please direct me to the thread.
I just recently dl'd the chm binary release and like it. But the on screen keyboard is hard on my eyes.
So my question is how would I go about replacing it with something like, o say the buuf on screen keyboard instead?
HTC_IME is not what I want just to clarify.
And once again, I apologize if this has already been threaded...

There is no way that none of you know this...

philosophics said:
There is no way that none of you know this...
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We could help you, but it is a 3rd party keyboard. What keyboard is it?

I'm not really sure. After installing the HTC_IME, I now have 2. Htc keyboard and android keyboard. If I knew how to take a screenie, I would but I don't.
As far as I know, its the on screen keyboard I've had since I rooted...
The keyboard that comes with chm binary is what I want to change...

well, I know how to modify the look of the builtin keyboard, but I haven't messed with 3rd party stuff.
The stock keyboard can be changed by theming. They're just png files, although the .9.pngs make it a little bit more complicated.

Well I kinda figured as much but what I'm really trying to ask is where do I find them?

They're in framework-res.apk on the phone. If you extract this file they'll be under res/drawable/
The filenames are btn_keyboard*.png
By using metamorph or creating an update.zip style theme you can change these and apply a theme to the phone. Theming is a real pain, but I think it's worth learning how to do.

Ya, I have already pieced together a blackbar to my liking so I'm well aware of the hassles it is to do. I'll be learning the .9's as soon as I get my pc parts back from rma and then I'll try to put out a skin.
Thanks bud, I'll look into this tomorrow after I've slept...

If you want to do this easily, download the buff keyboard skin for better keyboard, and take the .9.pngs from there.

Wow! Now that should have been said at the very beginning. Good thing I was too busy today to get to that. Cloverdale, you just saved me a few hours of frustration. still though, I thank the both of you for the help. I will update the thread when I have success so everyone knows its solved!
Ps- anyone else try to read the forums on your phone? Its a little tricky...
Sorry for the off topic comment but I felt the need...

ok so I couldn't really find a way to download the better keyboard/buuf theme on the pc so I went and tried swapping the btn-keyboard---'s and noting happened after add.
So now I'm on the hunt for the better keyboard dl
I don't know where to look for the file when dl'ing to phone so if all else fails, I guess I could dl to phone and then search for it by folder by painstaking folder...
Update - I cannot for the life of me find the file on the web or on the phone. I dl'd from marketplace but I must not be very smart cause I don't know where marketplace stores stuff...
Downloading the better keyboard theme was supposed to save me grief but in fact, it did the exact opposite...
Update - Well I thought by removing the btn_keyboard_key.xml would solve my problem considering the BUUF skin does not contain one. Same nasty black and blue keyboard. All the buuf keyboard .--- are there so I'm confused once again.
I do not want to install another pay-for app and I don't want the entire buuf theme as of now so I will wait till later today after sleep and try again.
Unless someone knows exactly what's wrong. I'm doing everything I can to keep this 3 month old drywall from having holes in it...
I thought the black bar mod was hard to do... hahaha! That was a cake walk compared to this...
Update - Removing the xml's to the keyboard was a bad idea. It forced closed the android keyboard cause it wanted to change the language to latin or something like that. Touch Input keyboard (HTC_IME) will still work though and I made backups so all of this is just a learning experience for me.
...This is so not like modding and skinning a moto. Way more complicated. So much can go wrong.
Which reminds me, how do I view the .xml's with win7? Never done it before...

So does anyone have any other ideas? Maybe there's something I've been missing this whole time?
I have replaced the btn_keyboard--- files in the framework-res.apk like I was told to do and there is no effects... at all. Positive or negative...

philosophics said:
So does anyone have any other ideas? Maybe there's something I've been missing this whole time?
I have replaced the btn_keyboard--- files in the framework-res.apk like I was told to do and there is no effects... at all. Positive or negative...
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Well the only other place I can think of is the LatinIME.apk, but I'm not sure about that one

You know, that almost makes sense cause when I removed the .xml for the keyboard to make it match with buuf, the phone kept screaming at me about ..... latin something. So I will check this out and let you know.
But now I have a new problem. I think I need to remove a few applications cause my phone keeps force closing everything after reboot due to an update.zip file. So once I conquor this then I'll start working on the original problem...

Noob In desperate need of HELP!

Well as the title says I am in desperate need of help. Now I have just gotten the Touch Diamond and I am not happy with they way things look. I liked the phone by looking at all the Youtube videos and decided this was my next phone. Well little that I knew every video was either a different carrier style phone or has been modded. Now I am looking to do the same thing, but I am looking for someone who is experienced in this field to give me some one on one support. Now I am not a complete noob when it comes to computers but when it comes to the phone yes I am have never messed with modding a phone. This is my first PDA phone. So if someone can either send me a PM or just reply here that would be great. My main goal is to get the most out of my phone. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you guys soon. Thanks

ffjwhite said:
Well as the title says I am in desperate need of help. Now I have just gotten the Touch Diamond and I am not happy with they way things look. I liked the phone by looking at all the Youtube videos and decided this was my next phone. Well little that I knew every video was either a different carrier style phone or has been modded. Now I am looking to do the same thing, but I am looking for someone who is experienced in this field to give me some one on one support. Now I am not a complete noob when it comes to computers but when it comes to the phone yes I am have never messed with modding a phone. This is my first PDA phone. So if someone can either send me a PM or just reply here that would be great. My main goal is to get the most out of my phone. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you guys soon. Thanks
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There is a ton of info on this site and on ppcgeeks.com so the best thing to do is read,read,read. Then you can learn what you like and decide what you want to do. Good Luck!!

Thanks. I have been to numerous sites and they all say what the stuff can do but there is no Tutorial on how to add stuff and config it. Thats where I am running into problems. I would like to change my TF3D screen off this purple color. I was able to finally get my weather to work in my area instead of major cities. Now I just want to mess with the look of the phone. I have the Diamond TF3D Config installed but all the themes I want to install on the phone wont come up in the Path folder. Thats another area I could not find a Tutorial on. If I had one of those or at least a video of how to do it that would be great.

ffjwhite said:
Thanks. I have been to numerous sites and they all say what the stuff can do but there is no Tutorial on how to add stuff and config it. Thats where I am running into problems. I would like to change my TF3D screen off this purple color. I was able to finally get my weather to work in my area instead of major cities. Now I just want to mess with the look of the phone. I have the Diamond TF3D Config installed but all the themes I want to install on the phone wont come up in the Path folder. Thats another area I could not find a Tutorial on. If I had one of those or at least a video of how to do it that would be great.
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flash a energy rom, they are great out of the box and they have a custom look to them. just follow the on screen instructions and you cant go wrong. just make sure you flash hardspl first.

Ok, Thanks. Now I know I have seen some out there that wont work for my phone. Can you tell me which one will work. I have a Verizon Diamond and I dont want to brick it.

ffjwhite said:
Ok, Thanks. Now I know I have seen some out there that wont work for my phone. Can you tell me which one will work. I have a Verizon Diamond and I dont want to brick it.
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I don't think there is a HardSPL/Unlocker for the Verizon version.
You may only be able to tweak your shipped rom.

Ok, well I am not having a problem I would like to get solved. Once I get this solved I am all set. Also do I have to unlock my phone to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5? Here is a Link to my problems with the weather.