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Fix for USB Mass Storage...

I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.

ckl_88 said:
I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.
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GREAT find! I am testing right now...
EDIT: Works excellent! It doesn't seem to be in the market for me...maybe because qvga, but I found it online.
I'm running:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
ADB Drivers installed by PDANet (not that it affects the SD mount)
Sourceforge 2-14-10 NBH (240x320)
Myn's Warm Donut with Hero theme.
This is awesome!
EDIT2: I can also run ADB/tether with PDANet and use mass storage simultaneously.

This is Fantastic!! It works. Great find man. didnt find it on the market but i did find it on the net. im using version 1.6
EDIT: you should take off the "possible" from your title as it is a perfect fix

Working perfect with Myn's Warm Donut + Windows 7 64 bit. Thanks for the tip!

Definitely works! (Using Ubuntu Karmic)
I was only able to find version 1.0 on the net - couldn't find it on the market.

ckl_88 said:
I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.
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How do you get it on the phone? Then how do you install it? All I have is a .apk file...what do I do with it? Vista does not recognize my phone, and I do not have a card reader. Thanks.

$1 in market. works great.

crobs808 said:
How do you get it on the phone? Then how do you install it? All I have is a .apk file...what do I do with it? Vista does not recognize my phone, and I do not have a card reader. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5579322&postcount=14

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt Luv it luv it and luv it some more...

Man do us a favor and pl take off "Possible" from the title. This is THE fix.

Could you remind me why it's not possible without this app? is it a kernel or user space issue?
A long time ago, dzo told us that this could be solved when nand boot would be ready. Now, that's ready, what avoid solving this problem?

How fast is USB Mass Storage with the Vogue? Does anyone remember the transfer speeds it's rated for?
I'm using a class 6 MicroSD so I guess the card reader method will still be faster for me?

osilvan said:
Could you remind me why it's not possible without this app? is it a kernel or user space issue?
A long time ago, dzo told us that this could be solved when nand boot would be ready. Now, that's ready, what avoid solving this problem?
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as I recall the notion was that running from nand would allow us the option of dismounting the sd card from the system so it could be used by USB mass storage. currently, nand still uses a cache on the sd card, so this is not yet possible.
this program allows both the system and the usb mass storage to access the sd card at the same time. I'm sure if someone cared enough to backwards engineer this we could incorporate something similar. however, why bother when there is a perfectly usable program already.

So this won't work using ext2 or fat for haret users I assume?

myn said:
So this won't work using ext2 or fat for haret users I assume?
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I'm running haret on a partitioned card (fat 32 and ext2) and it works great for me - just tested it.

berardi said:
How fast is USB Mass Storage with the Vogue? Does anyone remember the transfer speeds it's rated for?
I'm using a class 6 MicroSD so I guess the card reader method will still be faster for me?
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~500kb write and ~800kb read (with class 4) results may vary

slapadabass said:
I'm running haret on a partitioned card (fat 32 and ext2) and it works great for me - just tested it.
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I confirm this also, running fat32 and 2 512Mb ext2 partitions. this is very handy. I found the 1.65 version doing a Google search, and that is what I have tested.

I would love to find out what this widget is doing so we can add the functionality to the base roms. I haven't had a close look at this yet but does anybody know exactly what it's doing?

jamezelle said:
~500kb write and ~800kb read (with class 4) results may vary
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that if your SD card is class 4, this will still be grossly slower than simply taking the card out and using a card reader, no? 800 kb vs 4 mb / sec? or do I have the figures wrong... For small files this is convenient but for large amounts of music files etc it probably is less practical - granted not eveyone has a card reader

berardi said:
So correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that if your SD card is class 4, this will still be grossly slower than simply taking the card out and using a card reader, no? 800 kb vs 4 mb / sec? or do I have the figures wrong... For small files this is convenient but for large amounts of music files etc it probably is less practical - granted not eveyone has a card reader
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Right - unless you're running off SD card and can't take your SD card out . . .

Free - EASEUS Partition Master

http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/
After screwing up the boot of my NC, this was a lifesaver when imgwriting to my SD card and needing more room for the ZIP files to recover...
Giveaway of the Day - EASEUS Partition Master 7.0.1 Pro
Today only, so go!

Great find!
Thanks...

In case anyone misses the free giveaway today, the free home version is almost identical to the Pro version. Only differences are that Pro support tickets get higher priority and you can create a bootable CD to manage your partitions with Pro. Otherwise, I've used the Home version for quite some time and it works just fine for my needs.
http://www.partition-tool.com/easeus-partition-manager/comparison.html

[Q] Questions about Honeycomb on a 16GB SD

I was just trying out Honeycomb and found some weird issues.
First and most disturbing question is, Why is my 16GB SD card now recognized as 128 MB SD card in everything I put it in? Is there a fix for this? I would love to have the full 16 GB accessible since being able to dual boot would be the best of both worlds.
I can now do ADB which I could not do before but now I cannot access the Nook through USB. With a Autonootered 1.1 it was the opposite. <--not really a question.
Also, when if every will there be a full Android Market? With Autonootered 1.1 it was extreamly limited and would only show the top 10 results even when it said there were about 150 or so results. With Honeycomb it shows all of the results the Market says it found. There are still a lot of apps missing from the market. I only see free ones. Some of my other research found that the full market is only available to phones with 3g or only certain phones.
Thanks in advance.

You need to reformat your sd. Do it using another android phone or do it in a pc. Reformat to the full size. There are two cwr flashes, a big one and a small one. It sounds like you used the smaller one
Sent from one of those missing Droids

Found the question on about page 95 (posted by Breakthecycle2) and found a cryptic answer on page 99 (by donhu) of the Honeycomb preview image thread.
Here is a boiled down guide
Download EASEUS Partion Manager
Install it and open it
With the SD card in your computer it should show up along with your computer's HD.
Select the SD card. You will see all of the partitions of the SD card.
What you want to do is to select the SD Card partition
Right click and select resize/move then drag the right hand side to make it as big as you want.
This shows up as SD card on the File manager and you can now use it to store what you want.
Hope this helped

memory FREE space remain problem

hi
my HD7 (8GB) has mango 8773 not unlocked.never done any jailbreak or unlock and just tryed to keep up2date with ZUNE at orginal HTC roms.
but :
in my SETTINGs it shows that i have 1.08GB free
and
in ZUNE tells that 284.3MB remain !
my reserve space is 4%
can any one tells me where is mine ~700MB space plz ?

khepelesibilo said:
hi
my HD7 (8GB) has mango 8773 not unlocked.never done any jailbreak or unlock and just tryed to keep up2date with ZUNE at orginal HTC roms.
but :
in my SETTINGs it shows that i have 1.08GB free
and
in ZUNE tells that 284.3MB remain !
my reserve space is 4%
can any one tells me where is mine ~700MB space plz ?
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More than likely it's being used... I'll try to explain!
The RAM memory is basically where your OS is stored and it uses the RAM to actually run the OS and other various processes of the device. The ROM memory is used to store system applications...apps that cannot be moved to the SD card. (or they wouldn't function correctly) Even the apps that you download and that are on the SD card will still use some of the internal memory. ROM is also being used for and by contacts, text messages, cache and so on. So the discrepancy that your seeing is literally the memory that is locked away for use by the system. Your memory isn't really missing, you just can't see it and it's being used.

xdrc45 said:
More than likely it's being used... I'll try to explain!
The RAM memory is basically where your OS is stored and it uses the RAM to actually run the OS and other various processes of the device. The ROM memory is used to store system applications...apps that cannot be moved to the SD card. (or they wouldn't function correctly) Even the apps that you download and that are on the SD card will still use some of the internal memory. ROM is also being used for and by contacts, text messages, cache and so on. So the discrepancy that your seeing is literally the memory that is locked away for use by the system. Your memory isn't really missing, you just can't see it and it's being used.
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tnx for your reply, but my problem is , if that memory is used, why phone says i have 1.08GB free, and if it is not used, why ZUNE tells i have 285MB free ?
and if it takes by some thing like temporary internet files , how can i clear them.
and remember phone says total storage=7.20GB , i think he gets as much as he need from 8GB
which one is true ? 1.08GB or 285MB ?

khepelesibilo said:
tnx for your reply, but my problem is , if that memory is used, why phone says i have 1.08GB free, and if it is not used, why ZUNE tells i have 285MB free ?
and if it takes by some thing like temporary internet files , how can i clear them.
and remember phone says total storage=7.20GB , i think he gets as much as he need from 8GB
which one is true ? 1.08GB or 285MB ?
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I'm not sure...I'd say that your device would be the most accurate of the two. I have the 32gb SD card in mine and have 29gb available storage.
Do you have alot of music,video, pics and SMS on your device? You might want to think about upgrading your SD card to a 16gb or 32gb. I just upgraded mine from the 16gb to a 32gb and its running faster than it ever has. Boots super quick and loads apps and really fast too.
Other than going into IE setting and deleting the history, cookies and temp files and deleting some text messages, I don't think there's a cache cleaner that you can get for it as of yet on a non-unlocked device!
Download this app, System View and it will tell you, available storage status and a lot more. I think it will give you a better idea of what the used/free memory availability is and you can compare it with what you already have.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/7abbac8f-068c-e011-986b-78e7d1fa76f8

in first post i forgot to say system view also shows 1GB but some times ago ZUNE tells mine phone have 0MB free and didnt do SYNC ! i forced to uninstall some program and try again !
i have around 100~200MB picture and music , and all other is programm.
changing memory or factory reset or ... takes so many time for me to install all again !
also i think i paid enough mony for WINPHONE

khepelesibilo said:
in first post i forgot to say system view also shows 1GB but some times ago ZUNE tells mine phone have 0MB free and didnt do SYNC ! i forced to uninstall some program and try again !
i have around 100~200MB picture and music , and all other is programm.
changing memory or factory reset or ... takes so many time for me to install all again !
also i think i paid enough mony for WINPHONE
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I understand the enough money invested, Lol... If your device and System View both say you have 1GB of memory left, then I'd say that's more accurate than Zune but your device still needs that reserved space to operate everything. As far as freeing up space, even though you don't have very much memory used with pics, video and music, you could up load them to SkyDrive and free it up from the actual memory on the device but 200MG isn't much. Unfortunately I don't think that there is much of a option other than deleting some of your apps or upgrading the SD card at this point to gain any substantial amount of memory.

Change the amount of reserved space to 1% in Zune. The phone doesn't subtract the reserved spec, only Zune does.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

[Q] External memory (memory card) usage

I've got a question regarding the RAZR i (and no doubt other Motorola models), regarding the use of the external memory (card slot) to store app data.
I've bought a 64GB memory card (at £35 including postage it was silly not to!) and it's great that I can fill it with video, music and save camera photos to it (the one app that gives me the option).
However, I've installed a shed load of apps - including things like CoPilot Live, which has very large maps. These all go on the internal 'SD Card' and, obviously, means I'm now being told that I'm running low on space - despite having almost 35GB free on the memory card.
Is there any way to move stuff to the physical memory card (mnt/external1) without rooting?

jonmorris said:
I've got a question regarding the RAZR i (and no doubt other Motorola models), regarding the use of the external memory (card slot) to store app data.
I've bought a 64GB memory card (at £35 including postage it was silly not to!) and it's great that I can fill it with video, music and save camera photos to it (the one app that gives me the option).
However, I've installed a shed load of apps - including things like CoPilot Live, which has very large maps. These all go on the internal 'SD Card' and, obviously, means I'm now being told that I'm running low on space - despite having almost 35GB free on the memory card.
Is there any way to move stuff to the physical memory card (mnt/external1) without rooting?
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Everyone on Atrix HD wants to do this to, but they can't because they cannot root. Apps like Apps2SD require root to function.
Unlike Atrix HD, you are offered a way to root while they can never do it.