Anyone in the UK remember the Philips Diga & C12 and their mods? - Off-topic

Little reminiscing...
Back in what must have been the 90s and early 2000s Philips was big in the phone game, let's call them the HTC of the time as they certainly spawned some modders.
I had a C12 (Cellnet/U - aka redesigned Savvy on Orange) when I was 15, must have been 2000ish at school (25 now). I remember that the early 'U' branded models had an exploit where you could send free texts by switching the phone off at a precise point when the text was sending. You'd then switch on, and there you go - your balance wasn't touched and the text was sent. This was great, but I believe BT/Cellnet/U/Genie (Jesus, they went through some names) now o2 eventually patched this by adding a random delay at the service centre end so you'd be lucky if they went through free. At least that's what I gathered by the way my phone was acting!
It was hassle though, I generally paid for those texts and I must have spent hundreds back then as a schoolkid texting the cute girl at school and pirate radio stations.
I remember you could do a hardware mod to the C12 and Diga which completly overrode any charging at all. Back then nothing was linked to a name so you'd get away with it until it was cut off (not sure how they went about detecting it). I had an associate who spend virtual-thousands in calls and texts before he was chopped.
These were some old skool devices. My sister got a mobile before me (despite being younger ) and got a Diga on Cellnet. Massive - credit card sim too (even though you could selotape a regular sim inside it) probably the same size as my HD2 (what a u-turn!) and had what I think was a 1 line display where texts would scroll along the screen 1 character at a time. Jesus.
My dad had a friend with a Philips Fizz that needed a wheel barrow to carry it around in, don't think that even did SMS.
Alas, Philips came out with a new C12 which did *something* different, new sim cards or whatever, and wasn't compatible with the old ones. Some years ago Digas and C12s all got blocked from networks altogether. Philips have disappeared from the phone scene altogether now it seems.
We're talking a decade, people. Dig out that old first phone of yours (mine was a Diga and Motorola M3788) and compare them. Mindblowing!

I GOOGLEd them n... well, ew.

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OH MY GOD ! Line 2 support in WM6 Pro

Wow, i just upgraded my OS to Dutty's final rom, leaving my radio rom as the standard Orange one. And, hang on, what is that 1 up the top next to the G.
Go into the phone app, hold down # and hey presto. Line 2. WOW
This is the first ever phone/os combo that has line 2 support on a pocket pc phone. Has been supported from day 1 in smartphones but not in the pocket pc, why, i dont know, but now it is. Hurrah.
This probly doesnt apply to most people on here but anyone else with line 2 then get stuck in.
Cheers
rob.
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here you go
it is hard to find a dual SIM card....
Hmm, nothing happens when i hold #
Could you give us your radio number :S
I don't have this option and I got duttyroy's final touch flo rom.
And the holding # in phone did not help :S
not a dual simcard, guys... single but with 2 lines.
yeah rogers has a feature like this as well, but not sure how/if it works with the kaiser
yeah it is just a single sim card with 2 different phone numbers.
You can recieve calls on both numbers and it tells you which line it comes in on.
You can also make calls on both numbers by holding # to select which line you want it to go out on.
Orange have offered it as a feature for years, Tmobile in the UK used to as well back in the One2One days, might still do. That is where i got mine from. I was on a One2One precept time plan which came with a priority line free. Back then all the second line could do is recieve calls. It was so you could divert all your calls to voicemail if you were in a meeting or something, but the priority line would still ring through.
When i moved to Orange i got them to match my plan and they did and gave me my line 2. Then when virgin mobile started up i got Orange to put my second line onto that timeplan pricematch so i can keep it forever and not pay any line rental on it, just the call cost. Have had it for years and years. Always wondered why it wasnt supported on Pocket PC's when it was on smartphones.
So there you go, that is the story of my second line.
I think it will only work if your have Orange Line2 SIM
As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)
akash_84 said:
As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)
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No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.
Well not unless they do 2 different sorts, but mine is as stated by akash_84. It is 2 different numbers and 2 different contracts. Obviously under the same account though. When you get your bill though you get 2 bills as if it were a second phone.
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No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.
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I can do that with 1 line, it's called "Call Waiting" & "Conference" functions.
Our Brit Friends are talking about something totally different. When I worked a Motorola (12 years ago) they had the ability to offer this to their employees but I've never heard of a US Carrier offering such a feature.
Basically is is like having 2 lines at your home or business. They function a two seperate lines. If you silence the first line line2 still rings.
This feature is called ALS (automatic line switching) it is a part of GSM standart, but though not all operators support it. It is like "software dual-sim". You actually have two numbers on one sim and can have two different contracts. One for talking and one, with cheaper traffic, for surfing for example.
I do not know if it is actually working on Kaiser, as I do not use it, but though I have this annoying "1" sign in my taskbar =( An I do not know how to get rid of it.
As said a few times Orange UK have offered this service for years, its probably not as popular as it was, its effectivley two differany contracts and numbers on 1 sim card.
It used to be VERY popular a few years back when Orange UK offered a service called everyday 50. meaning you go 50 mins of evening calls free every days for a very cheap price.
The catch was expensive calls during the day.
To combat this, people had an any time tariff on line 1 (first number) and the offpeak tariff on the second line (second number)
A couple of times i would of been on the phone for 20 mins during the day time to finish the call and find i was using the wrong line and got stung for the day time usage!
Whichever line you dialled out would be displayed at the other end.
Works quite well also for seperating business and plesure as you can disable calls coming in on one of the lines (ie the weekend)
no line 2 (ALS) option on my phone
I have a AT&T Tilt, modded with Dutty's Final ROM as well... but under SETTINGS>Phone there is no ALS tab like the one you show....
am i missing something?
(Using on Rogers Wireless Canada with a Sim Card with two lines/numbers)
I cannot call out on the 2nd number, which is important.
I used to have a HTC 621 (aka Dash/Excalibur) which didnt have this option either but at least when people called the Line2 number it would have a distinctive ring... the Tilt/Kaiser makes no distinction with either number...
Help
Northred, you can try to enable it by setting "ShowALSPage" to 1 in your registry under HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting.
I beleive 2nd line is a Orange thing, you get 2 numbers.....one simcard
I have a Cosmote (Greece) SIM card which has 2 numbers in it (2in1) but the Line 1 or 2 doesn't work whether I use First number of SIMcard or Second,the "1" remains there.

Does anyone here use there HTC TyTN II in Panama?

I am going to Panama for several months and am taking my TyTN II. I wanted some tips from people who are currently there or have been there on a few things.
What service is the best one to get?
What does the service cost for unlimited data and calling?
Did you use skype while you were there? Any problems?
Did you use GPS while there? What maps etc do I need to get?
Any and everything I should get to prepare my phone to do everything it does here in Panama.
Thanks
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@bosstone
I would advise you to take another mobile phone ...not the KAISER!
The Panama Canal was not only established in Panama because of the smal land passage between the Pacific and at least the Atlantik. It was as well estabished there because it rains so often ....and the Canal needs a lot of water to run!
What I wanted to say is: The humidity is very very high in this area ...and the KAISER doesn't like it!
My personal experience was that my KAISER worked just 4 days in Panama. - totally loss - water damage
I cannot really give an advice witch mobile phone company you should use. For Europeans the best company is the in majorty Telefonica owned MOVISTAR, ...I think the only GSM - operating company in Panama on Band 850. ...and as I remember, they don't sell any special Data-prepaid! ...by the way: Makes it sence to sell a Data plan when GPRS has just arrived Panama?
About using GPS in Panama is to say:
There are in my knowledge no special maps you could use on any gps- coordinates related official distributed and supported software .....without GOOGLE MAPS MOBILE.
But first: To transfer the coordinates - dates is horrible expensive ....and second: If the dates arrive in your PocketPC you have passed the point it belows to, ...hmmm, unless you walk! *smile*
In other words: GPS-Navigation in Panama is not wellknown like in gps-maps supplied countries!
Well this is depressing. I just bought this phone specifically for my trip to Panama and most likely I will be moving there permanently. I just spent $500 for this phone because I though tit would be a great phone to have there. Last thing I want to do is take my brand new phone there and then have it get ruined. This really sucks.
I did find a GPS map for the area listed at http://www.panama-zone.com/
Does anyone else think my phone will just be destroyed by using it in Panama?
As far as the networks if I understand you correctly there is no unlimited data service in the entire country? This seems crazy if it is really true.
I am completely confused on what I should do now.
I was in Panama for a couple weeks back in November and I had no problem using my Tilt. I can't speak to the phone plans because I just used my AT&T plan and got wicked high roaming charges but it still worked fine. Skype worked ok when I was on wifi, as it would anywhere. The GPS worked fine as well, though I only used GPS Tuner to track a hiking path I took, and I didn't use it for vehicle navigation etc. In Panama City I had data, as well as in Penonome (the smaller town I was staying in) though it was only GPRS or EDGE, not HSDPA. So, as far as it goes, I don't think your phone will be destroyed, as long as you don't drop it IN the canal. Sorry I couldn't help more with your other questions.
I live in Costa Rica and my TILT work perfect with local provider !!!
It may work fine in Panama
I first used my unlocked Tilt in Panama in August with no trouble whatsoever (right in the middle of the rainy season). In late November though (which this year proved to be the tail end of the rainy season), I used my tilt for two days and it randomly started acting funny so I opted to reset... upon doing so, I got locked into the multi-colored SPL. I was convinced that my Tilt was done for good, but was able to flash a new SPL fix once I got home and everything is back to normal in the states. My father had his 3g iPhone with him, not only was his reception better and data faster, but even with me running Quick GPS, his GPS with Google Maps locked in on our locations a full 30 seconds faster. We were both on AT&T with the international roaming package and 20MB of data. I have the AT&T compatible radio installed, and I was concerned that this might have caused some of my problems since the network was switching in and out from Movistar to another all throughout my most recent trip. I don't know enough about radios to know if this can even create a conflict, all I do know is that my Tilt didn't survive the trip, and it wasn't until I was on the airplane home that I got it to successfully boot... i didn't turn it off again until I could flash a new SPL.
Now concerning Skype:
There's a lot of misinformation on the internet concerning VOIP in Panama. There's a lot out there that claims Panama's nationalized service (I believe it's now just called Cable & Wirelesss) blocked the ports commonly used by VOIP. I think that's old information. My attorney uses Skype in Panama City with no issues, panamanian number. I've had no problems using skype from the States to reach mobiles and computers in Panama and vice versa. I have a US skype number that still rings in Panama whenever it's called, so I'm pretty confident you won't have any issues. Even if you have problems, changing the ports is a simple enough enough process for even the most inexperienced users. In the few days I had before my HTC died down there, I did manage to use Skype mobile. It connected successfully, but as you're likely aware, the sound routes through the speaker so after my test call, I didn't use it again.
When it comes to Navigation on your HTC.... there is only one decent map that I know of at panama zone (linked above from another user) for mobiles, and it works only with Garmin (mobile XT) software... the map is pricey, and you won't find a pirated copy anywhere. Frankly, if you're considering an unlimited mobile data plan and expect to be in regions with good cell coverage, google maps works just fine.... I used it throughout panama city and pretty much all along the route to the southeastern tip of the azuero peninsula with no problems whatsoever. Most major roads will be pretty accurate.
On mobile service, I'll have to let you know. I'm moving to Panama in mid January for good. I've purchased an unlocked GSM phone from motorola just in case I have problems with my tilt again. I plan to start just using the prepaid sims until I can figure out the available packages, but in the past six months there have been major changes in wireless carriers in Panama. I am fairly certain that movistar, if they aren't already, will be offering an unlimited data plan. I'm still learning spanish, but if you can decipher it, check out http://www.movistar.com.pa/
If you're a big skype user, I do have a suggestion if you're looking to talk a lot in to people in the states. Since most prepaid mobiles have free incoming calls, I have set up skype to forward calls to my panamanian number when I'm not at my desk (in panama). Now when people from the states call my Washington DC skype out number, it rings in Panama (and if I answer at my computer, the call is free if it's not long distance for them to call DC) if I'm not there, it forwards the call to my mobile in panama and it's at a rate of 19 cents a minute... which is pretty good for calling a mobile number in Panama from the USA, though it does charges my skype account, not whoever is trying to reach me in the states. There are all kinds of options with call forwarding and multiple numbers, and skype mobile to avoid high call charges... a little annoying to set up, but with the savings it pays for itself in no time.
Digicel offers 1gb of data for 29.99 a month.
...and Movistar looks like 39.99 for the same: http://www.movistar.com.pa/site.php?id=5http://www.movistar.com.pa/site.php?id=5

Help Required - Age of Handset

Hi All,
Sorry in advance if this question has been asked before. I have recently (last night), got a diamond as an upgrade from a store. However when I got the handset home and opened the box, I found that it has already been used (finger prints all over than handset, sim card already inserted, headset missing etc...). I'm assuming its the stores demo handset.
Is there anyway of telling how old the handset is or how long it has been used for? I haven't turned the handset on as yet, so I don't know what sort of data will be on it (if any).
I'm concerned that when I take it back they will say its just me thats used the handset and kept the headset (!!!), So i'd like to have some ammo to show the handset is older than 1 day.
Even if you had got a brand new unopened one though it would still be older than one day, it's not like the handsets only spring into existence when you open the box.
OK, but there must be some sort of usage timer, I know older non smart phone handsets used to have this feature. Just need pointing in the direction of where it is on this one.
yes there is
in setting someware will tell you how long the phone is used and what calls it has made...length of time
hope this helps
start>settings>system>device info. call duration tab.
same as on all htc devices.
these call timers also cannot be erased by a hard reset or a rom update, so if there's anything on there over what you've done, then you've got a demo or a refurb unit.
Kinda silly of them to leave it in that state though!!

Phone shows full service but I don't receive calls

Sometimes people call me and get a message saying my phone is off or out of service. But when I look at it, it often shows 4 bars of service..
When I call someone, the problem disappears temporarily, and I start receiving calls again (and I receive all the SMS's I was supposed to get at once), only to appear again later for no reason (a soft reset also solves it). It's not related to location, it also happens when I spend the day at home (where I get a strong signal).
I don't think it's a operator problem either, since my operator is known for it's good services, and other people who use "normal" phones never had such a problem.
I tried 3 different ROMs (dutty's hybrid, Hyperdragon and AthineOS) and 3 different radios (dutty's radio (1.65 something), hyperdragon's (1.70 something), and eMo radio). Right now I'm using AthineOS with hyperdragon III's radio, and almost no programs installed..
This problem happens both in 3G and EDGE mode.
Anything I can do about it?
Send it in for repair?
Seems you tried all you could...
Don't think I can send it for repair, since it's an AT&T Tilt and I'm not even in the US..
Guess I'm outta luck then
Anyone else have any ideas?
have you tried the sim in another handset, sounds like a network problem to me.
3G Network
Are you using 3G Network?
Sometime I use 3G band and even It show good signal I loose phone calls.
I changed to GSM and no phone calls loose.
This happens in São Paulo/Brazil but...
EDIT: Sorry. Now I saw that you reported this problem also using GSM band.
Thanks.
I am not sure if you're using your US SIM card in a foreign country?
Maybe you just forgot to enable INTERNATIONAL ROAMING before you left ... ?
I'm having the same problem
I seem to have started with the same problem about a week ago. A couple people complained that they called me but it rang twice and went to voicemail - My phone never rang. However, after I made a call (or apparently did something to "wakeup" the phone), I would get the voicemail notification (2 hours later).
I tried reseating the SIM card, but then it went to "SIM Card Missing". I did a hard reset, but that didn't help. I took it back to AT&T and they replaced the SIM Card. That seemed to work again, and certainly would have been a convenient fix (bad SIM card - too easy). So I've just spent all weekend reloading all the apps, but now it's happening again!!
The symptoms are; After I reboot the device, I can receive one or two calls, then it doesn't ring anymore (the caller hears 2 rings then it goes to voicemail). If I cycle the Phone radio button in the Comm Manager, or cycle power, it comes back to life for 1 call, then craps out again.
I'm just using the standard AT&T ROM (without the Bloatware after this past reset) and the standard/default radio version 1.27.12.11
The only thing that I have noticed that seems different lately is that the "Comm Manager" task is always running when I look at the running programs (which I don't think it used to) I had also recently installed Garmin XT.
The device is of course 1 yr + 2 weeks (so I assume just out of warranty)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Hmmm,
what I would try, is, to just make a hard reset, load only my contacts to the phone and run it for a while to monitor its "Incalling" behavior. If everything seems to be fine, I would go ahead and start installing an application, then monitor my device again for a while, if everything is fine I will go ahead install the next application ... and so on. That is just to make sure that no 3rd party application causes this problems.
BTW:
I don't think that GARMIN causes this problem. I used to run Garmin on my HTC too (v5.0) until I came accross SYGIC McGuider (which works much better and card scrolling is much smoother than Garmin).
Well,
to come back to the point: if you get the same problems without loading any 3rd party application on your device, then I would recommend trying another ROM (best advice: go with the HTC stock ROM). If it also happens with the other ROM then it might be hardware related and difficult to fix.
Thanks - I knew that's what I should do, I just didn't want to do it after having spent all weekend reloading and configuring it. I thought I had read somewhere about Garmin having to have the phone radio on to work, so I was hoping there was a setting somewhere that I was missing that was powering the radio down. But..... I suppose it's time to go back to common sense and just do the reset
So far it seems to be working now. I'll give it a few days with just the basics and then start reloading one at a time.
Thanks for the quick response!
Spoke too soon
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
bbaydiver said:
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
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Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
kristoff_sz said:
Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
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no, I was just using the default browser.
I've got nothing installed on it at this point so I'm guessing it's hardware related.
Over the last couple months I had been experiencing some strange battery drainage (not related to the GPS issues). I don't know if that was a symptom or not. It just seems like the radio is going to sleep somehow - it wakes up for a little while if I sync my email, cycle the radio via comm manager, or cycle the power.
Anyone know if there is a setting somewhere that controls that? (sure would be nice if it were that simple)
The AT&T store was basically useless, all they did was give me the phone number for the warranty department (but since I'm 2 weeks past warranty, he doesn't think they'll help me), and of course offer to upgrade me to the Fuze for $375 - no thanks!
I've had the same issue (I think). I too think that it seems to happen when I have a 3G data connection active and moving back to GPRS (non 3G) seems to make it better....
I'm on a standard UK ROM and using BTMobile as a provider.
I was driving down the motorway the other day and overtook a friend. He rang me and went straight to voicemail. I then got a text to say that I had a voicemail and rang him back.
I was running TomTom Traffic at the time so would have had a data session enabled....
I think its something to do with the data session sometimes not letting a call through but can't put my finger on anything and certainly can't find an option to change any settings...
Also, even at home, I'm constantly picking up my phone to see that it "has no signal" and the exclamation mark is displayed - so calls aren't coming through - but it then connects and shows a three-bar strength signal. Don't understand why it keeps dropping out, but I get a 3G connection at the front of my house and an ordinary G connection at the back and I think that it sometimes to stay connected to the 3G connection for data even when the phone signal is very poor and it would be better dropping that and connecting at "old" GPRS speed...
Same on the train on the west coast main line out of London. I think having the 3G turned on causes the phone signal to drop out completely more than when 3G is turned off, as the phone tries to hang on to the signal of a 3G cell and doesn't successfully switch over to the next "non 3G" cell whilst in a call.
have you tried a new radio such as NIKI's?
well, AT&T warranty was even less than useless. Home phone, Internet, and Wireless all through AT&T and the best they can do is "see if they could get me a deal on a new phone" or refer me to HTC technical support. Nice customer service AT&T!!!
HTC technical support was actually trying to be helpful, once she found out I already did a hard reset, she referred me to their warranty group. They looked up the S/N and it's still under their warranty (I guess theirs is 15 months after manufacture date). Now the only problem is I have to send it in to them to see if it's covered under warranty, and of course be willing to go without my phone for 2 weeks (and pay them a yet to be determined amount if they decide it's not under warranty).
I'd like to try a different radio, but looks like there's too much for me to read up on - I need to get the device fixed, I've already lost too much time with it being messed up and me screwing with it.
Update
so this morning I was ready to throw in the towel and send the device back to HTC. At least they were willing to help me out, unlike AT&T.
I get to work, and of course the phone seems to be working (which isn't unusual, it works for a little while then craps out). Come lunch time, it's still working (now this is unusual, it must be a fluke, I'll give a couple more hours before I package it up). 4:00 and it's still working! Now I'm starting to wonder if it's got to do with the cell towers near my house (and the AT&T store since it did it for them too).
I email my buddy who lives about 1/2 mile away and also has a Tilt just to see if he's had any similar problems. He calls me back laughing. There's 5 People in his office with the exact same problem (and not all Tilts either).
So to make a short story long....... it appears to be a problem with AT&T, NOT the device (but Thank You very much AT&T for the incredible customer care you demonstrated and for trying to screw me into buying new devices for outrageous prices)
So at this point, I'm not sure if it's that AT&T has fixed the issue across the board, or if it was the "Resync the routing" that the online chat person tried last night that finally propagated across the network (I assume so that AT&T can find my phone in order to route the calls to me).
I guess we'll see if it does the same thing when I get back closer to home tonight, but I'm relieved that it appears to be fixed.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Now I have a little more time to read about how I can screw up my phone on my own schedule - all the practice of resetting it and reinstalling everything, and seeing how much faster it is has inspired me
Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
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Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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I didn't tried asking AT&T for a new sim card. but I will call them to change the sim card. Does anybody know how to disable the 3G function?
Just a "me too..."
Hello everyone. I just wanted to report that I'm having the same issues...they started about a week or so ago.
I've had my AT&T Tilt for about 8 months now (it's a warranty replacement for my first tilt, bought in July...so of course, I'm out of warranty). I recently had problems receiving calls, and then I started being unable to make calls, even though my phone shows a decent signal...anywhere from 4 bars to 2 bars. When dialing, it'll say "Dialing..." for a few seconds...and then it clicks off. A soft reset will fix things temporarily, but that's it.
I'm running the stock AT&T ROM (I'll check the version number if someone thinks it'll help), and I've tried doing a hard reset AND replacing the SIM card. Same effect.
Someone please let me know if they resolved this problem. AT&T offered me an HTC Fuze...but I'm extremely wary of other phones by this manufacturer. I'm very, VERY tired of phones crapping out on me after having just spend a couple of hundred bucks on them. At this point, I'm just looking for something reliable. If someone else here has had problems with the Fuze, please let me know...not to start any fights around here, but I'm actually thinking about going with the iPhone.
Thanks.

AT&T data plan

I recently bought an imported unlocked Diamond2. I have AT&T as phone provider. The first day I setup my data plan, it worked, since it stopped. When I call them they say that I can't have data plan with this phone since it's not an AT&T phone and that was the reason why I couldn't access internet.
My concern is: At the beginning, I worked!!! It's just a day after the activation of the data plan that it stops working; I have a feeling that they may have blocked my phone after detecting that it wasn't an at&t phone.
Also when I go do "Data Connection Setup", I can clearly select "United States" and "AT&T"...
Has anyone encounter this issue? Has anyone got a data plan with AT&T and got it to work with the Diamond2?
They killed mine too. I switched over to pay as you go for now until i can get another plan. I will not stay with a company that shafts you at every turn.
OK so it's not just an impression, they really did block the phone... Is this legal???
In any case, I'm going to call T-Mobile to know if this will work.
Unfortunately, yes they can. Most of the time they don't care but since they have contracts with the phone makers and some are exclusively with them, they don't want people to just go out and get whatever phone and use it on their network while they lose money with the contracts they have with the vendors they own. Its all about the bottom line for them and as a business its their right, although I am with you, I hate that; however, its understandable, they are out there to make money. Now I know for sure from AT&T techs that if the phone you are using is NOT on their hardware list BUT its made by one of the hardware providers they have a contract with, then they don't block it. If that helps any.
To give you an example, I have an iPAQ 910c, not a device they sell, but since they support iPAQ 6515, they don't mess with me. I had a Q9h (before my wife took it) and then my friend gave me his HK version I think known as Q9M or something crazy like that and it works fine because its still a Q. You get the idea.
OK.
So I actually got tricked by a d#[email protected]%ss at&t guy who ensured me that my phone couldn't work since it was not an 'at&t certified' phone, which made me suspicious since it first worked.
Then when I read the post of someone having the same issue, I got intrigued and I called AT&T again... with the intention to talk to a manager and to clarify the situation.
This time I ended up talking with a very nice lady, which couldn't help me much except by assuring that the problem wasn't on their side and that my phone should work if it ever worked.
So I started thinking and realized that I actually changed ONE thing between the time it was working and the time it stops working... Guess what... That ONE thing was actually the reason why I couldn't connect to the net anymore...
Back then, I was annoyed by the USSD notification message which kept popping up every hour or so saying: "Your last transaction costs you $0.00..." making by phone beeping every single time... I found that it was actually possible to disable them (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326851).
Well the problem by disabling them is actually you loose also you internet connection . I didn't realize it immediately since I had my wifi connection working.
Now I'm back to day one:
- internet work
- i'm still deeply annoyed by the USSD notification message mentioning a $0.00 transaction
There you have it. They might be money hungry corporate bastards and we may wish them to crash and burn but "sometimes" even they are not at fault and crap just happens. Glad you figured it out and its working for you and remember that although they can block the phone as long its by a manufacturer they support, its unlikely. Take care.
At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?
kandjar said:
At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?
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They can try but you mess with my uncle, you mess with me
that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.
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that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.
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Don't sweat it bud, probably a setting got screwy somewhere, it happens quite easily actually. Hope you figure it out but all else fails, nothing more surefire than a reset although its overkill and hope it doesn't come to that.
WOW that really sucks. Have you made sure that you have the right settings? Don't know what they are for ATT. For T-mobile my settings did not work the first day and I was freaking out. The next day everything worked fine.
All I can say is switch to T-mobile. I have been with them since they were VoiceStream. In My 8 years with them I have only owned 2 T-mobile branded phones. The Nokia 3390 and a Rizr Beause my phone got stolen and I needed one bad. The rest of my phones have been Unlocked/Unbranded. I use the $5.99 Unlimited Data Plan Which now is $9.99 but is limited to the amount of data. I used to pay $2.99 but when I got the Rizr was stupid and signed a new contract. T-mobile has never blocked any of my services.
Wow that sound cheap! I'll definitively consider switching once my current pay-as-you-go stuff expire...
Really like the phone but no 3G and switching to Asus P835. At least will get 3G in 1900 frequency area.This one only got 900/2100. Same price..
For AT&T, don't pay the ridiculous price of a data plan, sign up for MediaNET, same exact internet and its much much cheaper. Just whatever you do, DO NOT TELL THEM you have a PDA and on the accounts page DO NOT update your phone to match the PDA, just pick a generic version of the bran you are using.
Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))
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Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))
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The one matching your usage habits. There is cheaper one, the last I checked they had a 5.99 for 500 mb I think. You can check but I can check for you if you want, let me know.

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