Wow, i just upgraded my OS to Dutty's final rom, leaving my radio rom as the standard Orange one. And, hang on, what is that 1 up the top next to the G.
Go into the phone app, hold down # and hey presto. Line 2. WOW
This is the first ever phone/os combo that has line 2 support on a pocket pc phone. Has been supported from day 1 in smartphones but not in the pocket pc, why, i dont know, but now it is. Hurrah.
This probly doesnt apply to most people on here but anyone else with line 2 then get stuck in.
Cheers
rob.
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here you go
it is hard to find a dual SIM card....
Hmm, nothing happens when i hold #
Could you give us your radio number :S
I don't have this option and I got duttyroy's final touch flo rom.
And the holding # in phone did not help :S
not a dual simcard, guys... single but with 2 lines.
yeah rogers has a feature like this as well, but not sure how/if it works with the kaiser
yeah it is just a single sim card with 2 different phone numbers.
You can recieve calls on both numbers and it tells you which line it comes in on.
You can also make calls on both numbers by holding # to select which line you want it to go out on.
Orange have offered it as a feature for years, Tmobile in the UK used to as well back in the One2One days, might still do. That is where i got mine from. I was on a One2One precept time plan which came with a priority line free. Back then all the second line could do is recieve calls. It was so you could divert all your calls to voicemail if you were in a meeting or something, but the priority line would still ring through.
When i moved to Orange i got them to match my plan and they did and gave me my line 2. Then when virgin mobile started up i got Orange to put my second line onto that timeplan pricematch so i can keep it forever and not pay any line rental on it, just the call cost. Have had it for years and years. Always wondered why it wasnt supported on Pocket PC's when it was on smartphones.
So there you go, that is the story of my second line.
I think it will only work if your have Orange Line2 SIM
As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)
akash_84 said:
As mentioned, it is one single simcard with two lines/contracts
Orange currently do this and as far as I know, are the only ones that do it - It is in theory two numbers, two contracts (two lines)
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No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.
Well not unless they do 2 different sorts, but mine is as stated by akash_84. It is 2 different numbers and 2 different contracts. Obviously under the same account though. When you get your bill though you get 2 bills as if it were a second phone.
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No it's not. It's 2 lines, ONE contract, ONE number. You can put a call on hold and make/receive another call.
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I can do that with 1 line, it's called "Call Waiting" & "Conference" functions.
Our Brit Friends are talking about something totally different. When I worked a Motorola (12 years ago) they had the ability to offer this to their employees but I've never heard of a US Carrier offering such a feature.
Basically is is like having 2 lines at your home or business. They function a two seperate lines. If you silence the first line line2 still rings.
This feature is called ALS (automatic line switching) it is a part of GSM standart, but though not all operators support it. It is like "software dual-sim". You actually have two numbers on one sim and can have two different contracts. One for talking and one, with cheaper traffic, for surfing for example.
I do not know if it is actually working on Kaiser, as I do not use it, but though I have this annoying "1" sign in my taskbar =( An I do not know how to get rid of it.
As said a few times Orange UK have offered this service for years, its probably not as popular as it was, its effectivley two differany contracts and numbers on 1 sim card.
It used to be VERY popular a few years back when Orange UK offered a service called everyday 50. meaning you go 50 mins of evening calls free every days for a very cheap price.
The catch was expensive calls during the day.
To combat this, people had an any time tariff on line 1 (first number) and the offpeak tariff on the second line (second number)
A couple of times i would of been on the phone for 20 mins during the day time to finish the call and find i was using the wrong line and got stung for the day time usage!
Whichever line you dialled out would be displayed at the other end.
Works quite well also for seperating business and plesure as you can disable calls coming in on one of the lines (ie the weekend)
no line 2 (ALS) option on my phone
I have a AT&T Tilt, modded with Dutty's Final ROM as well... but under SETTINGS>Phone there is no ALS tab like the one you show....
am i missing something?
(Using on Rogers Wireless Canada with a Sim Card with two lines/numbers)
I cannot call out on the 2nd number, which is important.
I used to have a HTC 621 (aka Dash/Excalibur) which didnt have this option either but at least when people called the Line2 number it would have a distinctive ring... the Tilt/Kaiser makes no distinction with either number...
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Northred, you can try to enable it by setting "ShowALSPage" to 1 in your registry under HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting.
I beleive 2nd line is a Orange thing, you get 2 numbers.....one simcard
I have a Cosmote (Greece) SIM card which has 2 numbers in it (2in1) but the Line 1 or 2 doesn't work whether I use First number of SIMcard or Second,the "1" remains there.
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Hi,
I've just got my tytn 2 on orange. I have 2 lines with orange on one sim card (personal & business).
My previous phones have been fine with 2 lines on one sim.
Having just been "on hold" with orange customer services for 45 minutes, they are now telling me that the tytn 2 does not support the 2 line feature!
Can someone please confirm this???
To make things worse orange are refusing to take the phone back!!!!!!
Please help.
Many Thanks,
J.
They are correct it does not support it, from memory it does support part but depends on diffrent models, i think it gives a dead tone on line 2 incoming but you can switch to line 2 for outgoing or its the other way round, sorry been a long time since i've had a use for line 2.
I cannot see why you cannot send the phone back you get 7 days with any phone from Orange upgrades so long as you did not purchase instore, either way i would argue they should have advised you that it didnt work with your contract.
Hi,
I have a 2 line SIM card from my provider, it works very good. Both lines will ring if some one call to any of it. You can switch to any line for outgoing calls trough Phone Options. For incoming call you don't need to do nothing, ust insert the SIM and it works, at least in my case is working fine.
Regards,
Taguapire
the generic HTC tytn II rom works ok with Orange UK. You cant receive calls on line 2 but everything else works ok
you need to flash the rom!
If I flash the phone do you think it will work?
The store has agreed to take the phone back providing that I return it by 10:00am today!
JLondon said:
If I flash the phone do you think it will work?
The store has agreed to take the phone back providing that I return it by 10:00am today!
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i cant guarantee that it will work but i believe its a ROM issue, so there is a good change it will!
i am an ORANGE UK, user - i have their Line 2 service (2 lines on 1 Sim card.
90% of nokia's support the 2 lines, but have found the SPV M3100, and HTC Kaiser (tytnII) are said not too...
However, recently i removed the poor excuse for a rom, that orange installed on my device and installed the HTC shipping Rom.
I then was drawn to the fact that although HTC say, no our device doesnt support in anyway the second line, and windows 6 doesnt on this type of device.
I find that:-
1 - i can change lines from line 1 to 2 etc
2 - i can dial out from line 1 and line 2
3 - i can receive calls on my line 1
4 - i can receive texts on both my line 1 & 2 numbers
5 - the problem - if i dial my line 2 number, it gives a discontinued tone.
i can now hear you all thinking - thats really strange and yet, so close to being fully compatible!
i think it's probably something so small, but it just wont let the call in.
My SPV M3100 - had yet another amazing issue again connected, my 1st device - when the line 2 number was called, the device screen would light up, then terminate the incoming call. I then had to change the device and got another in place, this device had a later rom issue onboard, guess what, when you called the line 2 number - not a sausage, this would indicate - something in the rom.
Can someone please have a look at the HTC shipping rom, and see what you can find...
would love to be able to fully utilise the device and so would many other UK orange users with Line 2
Any help would be appreciated.
cheers
I dont know about this in first hand, but i have read here that 2 lines work. Do more search about it here and you should find talk about it.
It has to work. Cause someone already posted a topic about 2 lines support in wm6.
yes 2 lines work i do use them in my kaiser (i dont know if its because im in mexico but whatever xDU ) try reading more here
arh....but
the info i am getting is Microsoft did alot of work for the WM6 for Smart Phones, but dropped the whole PPC shortfall issues, its definately the rom thats holding the facility from working but it's finding someone who knows what they are doing and looking for within a rom.
I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
Thanks
I have ordered this sim and will post back after I install it as to how the install whent.
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you can get a dual sim card on ebay
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you can get a dual sim card on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-In-1-GSM-Dual...ryZ48501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
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the adapters that are being listed here will allow you to insert two SIM cards into the device, but only one SIM can be active at a time (so if you have SIM one active, even if not on a call, the second SIM calls/SMS will not show up until to switch).
The Tilt has the ability to accept two numbers but this is a network restriction. Speak to AT&T about MULTISIM or placing a redirect on one of the lines. That way you will have ONE SIM and will be able to accept calls for business and personal on one phone (even have the ability of placing one on hold whilst receving the other).
The only issue comes to your number - people can contact you using either the business number or the personal number. but when you send SMS or make a call, your number will be shown. You need to decide whether this is to be the personal or business numbers shown as you can't easily change this once it is setup.
As I say, speak to your network if the above is the option you are wanting, else go ahead with the dual SIM adapter if you are happy to change over to keep checking for new SMS and voicemails.
Thanks!
I will try out the forwarding, my problem is that my personal line is for another business - I want to be able to determins the origin of the call (ie: from buiness 1 or 2) so I can answer correctly. If I do the forwarding I'm not sure on how to identify the calls. Would it make more sense to port one of the numbers to a land line and then forward it to the phone so when a call comes in it will show the landline caller ID and I will know to answer abc company rather than xyz company? Thoughts?
i think your idea on the divert to landline then divert landline back to mobile is good.
just remember about answerphones - you want people to know they've reached the right place, but don't want to give them the wrong number or name! maybe change your mobile answerphone to "hi it's Bob, please leave a message and i'll return your call" (or whatever - just no number and no business name).
also keep in mind that divert costs. so if i was to telephone you, I pay the normal fee but you pay for the cost of calling your landline from your mobile, and then the cost of calling the mobile from the landline on your home bill. Effectively you would be paying for TWO calls for every call you received.
Why not just divert straight from line 1 to line 2? Then you just pay for call forwarding from the one line?
Hope some of this is helping you
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You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
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This is a great idea. Has anyone here tried this on a Kaiser?
Hi,
Since I've never had Windows Mobile device before but planning to get the recently announced Touch Pro I'm wondering how it'll handle SIM services.
The thing is that I'm using a special service with my provider that allows me to have two lines with different numbers on one SIM card. That way I can always receive incoming calls to both lines and switch between them two for outgoing calls.
I know that when I switch lines via the SIM menu it kind of resets the phone for a sec and registers again with the selected line. It works perfect with my Symbian N73 but how the Touch Pro will handle this?
I doubt that many people would know. You need to find someone else who has a WM device and the same special SIM service...
Perhaps you could create a thread about the special SIM service on the 'General' forum, in order to attract the attention of more users.
It uses a refresh like the dual sim's that have a STK menu. If the phone supports refresh it'll work. It should, but you never know.
Dark Fire said:
Perhaps you could create a thread about the special SIM service on the 'General' forum, in order to attract the attention of more users.
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Thanks, will do that.
Anyone..?
i had this service (2 lines on 1 sim) with orange and when i received my SPV M3100-Herms it only worked on one number
Little reminiscing...
Back in what must have been the 90s and early 2000s Philips was big in the phone game, let's call them the HTC of the time as they certainly spawned some modders.
I had a C12 (Cellnet/U - aka redesigned Savvy on Orange) when I was 15, must have been 2000ish at school (25 now). I remember that the early 'U' branded models had an exploit where you could send free texts by switching the phone off at a precise point when the text was sending. You'd then switch on, and there you go - your balance wasn't touched and the text was sent. This was great, but I believe BT/Cellnet/U/Genie (Jesus, they went through some names) now o2 eventually patched this by adding a random delay at the service centre end so you'd be lucky if they went through free. At least that's what I gathered by the way my phone was acting!
It was hassle though, I generally paid for those texts and I must have spent hundreds back then as a schoolkid texting the cute girl at school and pirate radio stations.
I remember you could do a hardware mod to the C12 and Diga which completly overrode any charging at all. Back then nothing was linked to a name so you'd get away with it until it was cut off (not sure how they went about detecting it). I had an associate who spend virtual-thousands in calls and texts before he was chopped.
These were some old skool devices. My sister got a mobile before me (despite being younger ) and got a Diga on Cellnet. Massive - credit card sim too (even though you could selotape a regular sim inside it) probably the same size as my HD2 (what a u-turn!) and had what I think was a 1 line display where texts would scroll along the screen 1 character at a time. Jesus.
My dad had a friend with a Philips Fizz that needed a wheel barrow to carry it around in, don't think that even did SMS.
Alas, Philips came out with a new C12 which did *something* different, new sim cards or whatever, and wasn't compatible with the old ones. Some years ago Digas and C12s all got blocked from networks altogether. Philips have disappeared from the phone scene altogether now it seems.
We're talking a decade, people. Dig out that old first phone of yours (mine was a Diga and Motorola M3788) and compare them. Mindblowing!
I GOOGLEd them n... well, ew.