I'm feeling a little adventurous, but not to the extent of bricking my dream - again.
SO, with that in mind, here's a little question to you geeks/coders/whatever-have-you: If I tell a Rogers Dream to load and use a Rogers Magic's Radio Interface Layer (a.k.a. RIL), what will it do? Will it break the phone and melt something? or will it just purely not work?
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I was just wondering if anyone has ever contemplated ever actually unsoldering the internal mem chip and upgrading it to a bigger one then porting a hero rom over to it....... And hell if you can do that imagine about the processor??????
That seems like a good idea, whether or not it's possible you'll probably have to bring it up with someone who knows about hardware and the g1 It might not work though because alot of the ROM is scaled to work with the default hardware and what happens if you mess up during the replacing of the hardwares? Could end up with a lot of messed up g1's before we can get this working
you just need the surface mount soldering machine to do it
Someone already posted about wanting to do this on another thread, probably in the Dream section. He's actually waiting to source the RAM chips before attempting it.
Also Android would take full use of the RAM as I would imagine it would only take a few tweaks to Android to tell how much RAM it has to play with, if at all.
Yeah, not too much would go havock. You'd have to change different values in the frame work and ensure that everything is cross-compatible, so that it knows how much to utilize...but since all hardware features go through one point, it shouldn't be too hard to do.
Now, the physical part of it might be, haha.
I am a semi noob at this. I have been following and flashing since the g1 came out, but there are a few things I never quite understood.
First. When going from 1.5 to 1.6 or to 2.0 what is it that I'm updating exactually? Is it just another rom or is ther more to it?
Second, what makes roms "slow"? I know most of the hardware is the same from one phone to another, or at least in terms of speed. But even the fastist hero rom is still slugish compaired to roms like xRom. So far the new 1.6 rom is the fastist my phone has been since root.
I'm not trying to discredit the devs, cuz I love what they are doing for android. I just want to be able to better understand the why,. Thank you
Please no flaming, simple answers (cuz its made for a diffrent phone), and last please break it down barney style.
sw20matt said:
I am a semi noob at this. I have been following and flashing since the g1 came out, but there are a few things I never quite understood.
First. When going from 1.5 to 1.6 or to 2.0 what is it that I'm updating exactually? Is it just another rom or is ther more to it?
Second, what makes roms "slow"? I know most of the hardware is the same from one phone to another, or at least in terms of speed. But even the fastist hero rom is still slugish compaired to roms like xRom. So far the new 1.6 rom is the fastist my phone has been since root.
I'm not trying to discredit the devs, cuz I love what they are doing for android. I just want to be able to better understand the why,. Thank you
Please no flaming, simple answers (cuz its made for a diffrent phone), and last please break it down barney style.
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Well you hit the nail on the head talking about the UI being made for a different device. Sense UI is not designed for the dream, therefore you are running a "ported" version of the UI. This will of course make things slower than if it was running on the intended device.
As far as hardware goes, the hardware is extremely different in many phones that are out. That will cause the phone to operate differently and reaction times will be based on the RAM and available internal memory, as well as the processor (the same way it would be in a computer).
As far as the different versions of android. It's just like going from windows xp to vista to windows 7, or from Mac OSX to snow leaopard. It's the same principal. The OS has received updates to make it more functional.
Hope this has helped.
sw20matt said:
I am a semi noob at this. I have been following and flashing since the g1 came out, but there are a few things I never quite understood.
First. When going from 1.5 to 1.6 or to 2.0 what is it that I'm updating exactually? Is it just another rom or is ther more to it?
Second, what makes roms "slow"? I know most of the hardware is the same from one phone to another, or at least in terms of speed. But even the fastist hero rom is still slugish compaired to roms like xRom. So far the new 1.6 rom is the fastist my phone has been since root.
I'm not trying to discredit the devs, cuz I love what they are doing for android. I just want to be able to better understand the why,. Thank you
Please no flaming, simple answers (cuz its made for a diffrent phone), and last please break it down barney style.
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Numbers 1.5 to 1.6 to 2.0 refers to the version of android. its similar to xp vs. vista vs. win7
Latest is 2.0 but its not fully ported for dream due to missing drivers.
theres no single factor that makes it slow. the hardware that hero roms run on have 96mb more ram than what the g1 has (its a different phone)
edit: rp beat me to it lol
Hi,
This is a stab in the dark, but my attempt to contribute to the good work been done by many others in rooting and flashing the tattoo, but I'm going to need some pointers.
I foolishly told the wife to buy a HTC Tattoo that was locked to Orange UK thinking, hey it'll be a piece of p!ss to unlock. That definitely isn't the case. Now I've rooted the device using the various things on the forum, the contributors are vast, so not enough space to mention them all here.
I plan tonight to flash using the AzusaRom, but as it's been pointed out on a number of occassions this doesn't unlock the phone from the CID check. I've also tried one of those turbosims without joy, so I thought I'd start taking a very tenative look around the tattoo to see if I'm able to understand what's going on a bit more.
I was hoping for a little guidance that's all. I'm assuming at some level there's a process spawned which at boot says check this SIM card? One approach I guess will be to understand what that process is and disable it? Although from what I gather the issue is to do with the version of the radio rom and the thing we really need to do is hack and flash the radio rom?
I'm probably putting myself out there for some ridicule, but this problem seems to be a recurring theme and perhaps a consolidated thread might be useful for everyone in the same boat.
So anyone wishing to join the party please do.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12167
Works perfectly in my Orange Tattoo and I running my O2 SIM no problems whatsoever. We would all love a hacked radio rom but me thinks it not that simple.
I would have thought that on a rooted phone if we flashed the HTC rom 1.67.405.6 then this would write the generic radio rom to the phone but I guess it doesn't, there must be some other protection somewhere.
Hello,
Just out of curiosity, has anyone found any real advantage to keeping the EBI1 radio on Rogers Dreams? I only ask because I switched to an EBI0 as soon as my phone was rooted and was wondering what I am missing out on.
I understand that many keep it on in order to stop their data from getting cut off by Rogers, but what about in terms of battery life, reception, etc.?
Thanks for your input!
So...either the difference is negligible or no one knows for sure...still hoping someone comes up with something!
It has to do with memory addressing. The EBI1 radio is used so that the same kernel image can be used on robbers dream as on 32A MAGIC. Since DREAM doesn't have the full memory, this radio doesn't make any difference. The radio is otherwise virtually identical to the 2.22.19.26 radio.
And another note, I remember reading somewhere that most of the rom that built are for the dream lol.
AustinAce said:
And another note, I remember reading somewhere that most of the rom that built are for the dream lol.
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That doesn't even make any sense.
Ahh...makes enough sense. Thanks for clearing that up!
Hi, I have a old G1 that's just gathering dust.
Its been rooted and running one of the Super D ROMS. (Haven't used it since I got a Desire)
Basically I've gotten fed up trying play SNES ROMS etc on a touch screen phone and remember how much easier it was on the G1 keyboard.
As its only going to be used for running games from the SD card.
Can anyone recommended or create a minimalistic ROM for this purpose.
Also, would I need to have a Sim card in the phone?
no need for a sim card, but you may wont the ram hack (2708+) i would imagine that might be better. you would want a basic rom maybe even a cupcake (not sure why but this sounds right) find the best kernel to flash over it, check ezterry's kernel thread. then use titanium backup or something similar to take out just about everything you can that could possibly run so that it wont interfere with your gaming. truthfully a lot of newer roms may work well for you as long as you just remove a lot of things that arent need to play your games - hopefully someone will come on here and steer you a bit closer.
check out this link for an idea of what you can remove from a rom and be safe
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
also depending on the rom maybe do one that asks to install gapps separate and dont do it...
No, cupcake doesn't have a 2708+ kernel for it...
Well...it does sorta...but it barely works and doesn't do much IIRC
Try froyobylaszlo
you'll need the 2708+ radio and spl
Use my mod of it, Frayo, and you can customize what system apps it flashes
So just put 0 for all of them in the install.txt (you'll know what im talking about when you find the rom)
Once you have the 2708+ radio/spl just flash frayo and that's it! gapps included.
And no it's not just cuz its my mod xD...froyobylaszlo is crazy fast, and once you remove system apps its even faster, and frayo can help you not install them in the first place
good call and the frayo, that would make it easier
im not sure why i feel cupcake would be better, no idea why but it sounds good
if you flash the right kernel over a cupcake rom it should work with the 2708+
but probably would get more speed in frayo with bare system apps, and you can take out a few more too
Cheers for the advice.
Its been a long time since I read about G1 updates so I've got some catching up to do.
Is there a walk through for this ram hack?
Last thing I did to my G1 was install Super D a long time ago.
ianthenut said:
Cheers for the advice.
Its been a long time since I read about G1 updates so I've got some catching up to do.
Is there a walk through for this ram hack?
Last thing I did to my G1 was install Super D a long time ago.
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Not really
There's a guide, but you gotta be familiar with fastboot to use it
Or you can find a topic called "upgrading to gingerbread" by gunner*numbers*
We walked him through it
You'll have to dig through the topic to find it though
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ianthenut said:
Hi, I have a old G1 that's just gathering dust.
Its been rooted and running one of the Super D ROMS. (Haven't used it since I got a Desire)
Basically I've gotten fed up trying play SNES ROMS etc on a touch screen phone and remember how much easier it was on the G1 keyboard.
As its only going to be used for running games from the SD card.
Can anyone recommended or create a minimalistic ROM for this purpose.
Also, would I need to have a Sim card in the phone?
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Hey! Check out my Dreamboy thread in General. I was thinking of making a rom just for that purpose
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