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What radio is recommended for a mix of battery/signal and, what are the chances of having a corruption and what would I do if I had a problem.
If the radio you downloaded is bad, then your phone will most likely be bricked and will have too be sent back to HTC. Do a check sum first.
Radio doesn't affect battery life as far as I know.
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If the radio you downloaded is bad, then your phone will most likely be bricked and will have too be sent back to HTC. Do a check sum first.
Radio doesn't affect battery life as far as I know.
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What do you mean do a check sum?
md5sum.
Google it. There is software that check's the files "md5sum". You use this software on the downloaded File(radio, rom etc..) The person who uploaded the file should provide a md5sum.
You compare your downloaded md5sum vs the one provided by whomever uploaded it and they should match which means u have the same exact file.
This should help avoid at least 1 part of the "bricking" risk.
I'm not sure there is any point in updating the radio, unless you are suffering from the infamous '3G issue'.
Also, as far as I am aware this issue only occurs for people on T-mobile in the US, so unless you are one of them, you might as well not bother.
I've updated my radio twice, but I haven't noticed any difference (I'm on Orange, in the UK).
I'm T-mo in the US - lol
Somewhat off topic, but could the radio that one has affect them seeing (or not seeing) the improved network speed on tmobile? (7.32mbps) our something like that. Some are reporting 3mbps on their phones. Im lucky if I get 1mbps on off-peak testing.
I do not have 3.5g in my area yet.
But i updated my phone to EPE54B and noticed a significant improvement in 3g speeds in my area.
I could not break 500 kps before the upgrade (after around 50+ speed tests around the area).
After the upgrade I now receive a normal of 850 - 898. about a 50% improvement overall.
Devastatin said:
I do not have 3.5g in my area yet.
But i updated my phone to EPE54B and noticed a significant improvement in 3g speeds in my area.
I could not break 500 kps before the upgrade (after around 50+ speed tests around the area).
After the upgrade I now receive a normal of 850 - 898. about a 50% improvement overall.
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Could you tell me how you performed this upgrade? What is EPE54B? I thought the radio was the long number? Did you have an update.zip file?
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Could you tell me how you performed this upgrade? What is EPE54B? I thought the radio was the long number? Did you have an update.zip file?
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If you're asking such basic questions, then stop. Do a substantial amount of research and familiarize yourself with the various files that can be flashed and the risks, etc. It's clear you don't know your phone. FYI, flashing to Radio can BRICK your phone.
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If you're asking such basic questions, then stop. Do a substantial amount of research and familiarize yourself with the various files that can be flashed and the risks, etc. It's clear you don't know your phone. FYI, flashing to Radio can BRICK your phone.
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what he means by "BRICK" is that your phone could break beyond repair. you would have to send it in to HTC and chances are bc you rooted it your warranty is void and therefore would have to pay for repairs.
Okay, and for those of us who are search challenged can you post a link of the new ERE45 radio?
Old Radio: (4.03.00.21)
New Radio: (4.04.00.03)
I'm feeling a little adventurous, but not to the extent of bricking my dream - again.
SO, with that in mind, here's a little question to you geeks/coders/whatever-have-you: If I tell a Rogers Dream to load and use a Rogers Magic's Radio Interface Layer (a.k.a. RIL), what will it do? Will it break the phone and melt something? or will it just purely not work?
Hi Guys
Flashed a few roms on my sexy nexy but my brother had recently flashed a radio and told me of the signal improvement. I'm using Kang O Rama rom and wondered whether anyone could suggest a good radio to flash?
Cheers for any help
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First one to say it: Wrong Section
Should be in Q&A.
But, to answer your question, I have seen that it really depends on your own experiences with each radio. I found that none of the 5.XX radios worked well for me. So, I'm running the older radio. But mos people say that the newer ones are better. So, you should just try them out. Just be careful when flashing
Cheers for that. I noticed that I had posted in the wrong forum straight away but didn't know how to move it with tapatalk.
Thanks for the info. Anyone got any recommendations?
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Check here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744605
ywindlass said:
First one to say it: Wrong Section
Should be in Q&A.
But, to answer your question, I have seen that it really depends on your own experiences with each radio. I found that none of the 5.XX radios worked well for me. So, I'm running the older radio. But mos people say that the newer ones are better. So, you should just try them out. Just be careful when flashing
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same here:
5.12 horrible battery and terrible internet speeds
5.08 terrible battery
4.xx no problems
and the same bad reception on all of them
=> UNLESS you actually have a PROBLEM with the radio, leave it alone!
5.12 radio here, wonderful battery and blazing speeds. No problems at all.
I happen to have one of the Nexus One developer phones with a CDMA radio. The software version is 2.1.1. I've tried updating the phone with new builds for the the standard Nexus GSM phone but it kills the radio (no signal and GPS) but otherwise the phone works (ends up being a Nexus Touch). So it seems that any software build has calls for a specific radio type and this phone will forever be on 2.1.1?
You need to get an updated radio build. The problem is - I'm not sure that the normal radio can fit your chip.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'll have to do some more digging into this phone to determine the radio and then look for a phone with the same radio. Although Android 2.1.1 isn't all that bad and the phone works well.
No further development occurred on this Nexus Verizon phone after the plug was pulled in March 2010.
Wait. You have a Verizon nexus one?
Can you share some pics and details????
Too cool.
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Wait. You have a Verizon nexus one?
Can you share some pics and details????
Too cool.
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Everything's the same except the radio.
They sold this as a dev phone?
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They sold this as a dev phone?
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No, never sold. I was told that a few phones were produced with the CDMA radio for development testing on Verizon's network for any issues with general and 3G operation. They were not supported by Verizon. The Google Android hardware team provided testing and support until 4/2010.
I've just flashed the 2.3.3 OTA release on this phone and again it killed the radio but everything else works. I'll just use it on wifi since I've updated from my Eris to a Droid X.
Did you use it as a phone on Verizon? Don't you have to do the entire activate the phone thing with them due to cdma?
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Did you use it as a phone on Verizon? Don't you have to do the entire activate the phone thing with them due to cdma?
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Yes, the phone was activated on my existing plan for awhile. Othewise the "Verizon Wireless" on the lock screen doesn't show up and you get nagged to activate each time you boot the phone.
I may ask the same original question of the thread on the developer's forum. It may have been better suited for that forum.
What about the radio from an Incredible? The N1 and Incredible are pretty similar... not sure man, I didn't even realize there was a CDMA N1 in existence.
i guess there is now way you can extract the radio image from your original ROM, then upgrade to gingerbread, then try and flash that radio image on top of gingerbread radio?
(maybe wont work if version numbers go backwards...?)
One of the pre-requisites for going to 2.2 and higher was an upgraded radio...
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Yeah look at the Droid incredible radio's, being that's what became of the failed Verizon version?
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i guess there is now way you can extract the radio image from your original ROM, then upgrade to gingerbread, then try and flash that radio image on top of gingerbread radio?
For some reason, when I do an rom upgrade from a normal nexus gsm build, it doesn't write over the radio. The CDMA radio is still displayed on the Phone Info but zero bars of signal 0dbm 0asu readings.
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Yeah look at the Droid incredible radio's, being that's what became of the failed Verizon version?
My guess would be the Incredible too. There is the chance that if I flash the radio with an image that isn't compatible with the hboot, then the phone will be bricked. I did that with a G1. Since this phone has no published specs that I can use to compare the actual radio device against another phone, I'm hesitant to take the chance since 2.1.1 isn't all that bad. Even if I knew the chipset, I wonder if I would go for it?
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You could always try and get some info from HTC. Can't hurt to ask them about the phone.
The chipset is QSD8650. I believe that's the same as Incredible. You can look in the Incredible forum and compare their radio build versions with yours - if they have the same structure, I guess you'll need to make some sort of a mix between Nexus HW and Incredible's Baseband drivers. I'm sure it's possible, it's just very hard without having the source.
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The chipset is QSD8650. I believe that's the same as Incredible. You can look in the Incredible forum and compare their radio build versions with yours - if they have the same structure, I guess you'll need to make some sort of a mix between Nexus HW and Incredible's Baseband drivers. I'm sure it's possible, it's just very hard without having the source.
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I assume you can tell by one of the pictures I posted?...
My radio is 1.00.02.03.24 Hboot is the same for Nexus GSM, 0.35.0017 with MicroP 0b15. Looks pretty much the same as a GSM except for the phone.
Droid Incredible radio seems to be something like 2.15.00.nn.nn. Eeee, I'm scared to try it.
Oh well, thanks all for the comments and suggestions so far. Looks like 2.1.1 is it for this phone...
glenk
Radio update success
Bit the bullet and tried the radio.img from a EVO, which I found on XDA-developer forum to work with the Droid Incredible. Well, the phone still works, GPS and camera work.
Unfortunately, when I install a GSM build, the radio 2.15.00 still remains but the same problem with 0dbm signal remains. Even if reinstall the radio.img after the build, no success.
Maybe I should offer this radio as a prize for building a Nexus One GB image that works with an EVO radio image...
Got a Droid X as my phone now...
Wow you actually attempted to flash a new radio, and one from a different device?! And it actually works? You have some guts, nice work. This is actually good info for future android phones, now we know what might be possible.
Flashing radio is by far highest risk of bricking.
Heyo N1 community!
So, after much deliberation, I dropped some cash on newegg for the first nexus experience...I also just needed a good backup phone.
That said, I'm probably going to be spending a lot more time here than in the Atrix forums as I'm REALLY liking the N1...and MIUI (...I'm kind of in love).
All this said, I had a couple questions about things I should be wary of...and just am not familiar with.
1. Blackrose
-From what I understand, due to the small ROM capacity, this is used to repartition the N1 to accommodate larger ROMs. I also see something about a custom HBOOT being involved. I don't really know what that is, though. Do most ROMs need this now? I was lucky enough to flash MIUI which apparently doesn't require blackrose. Granted, I don't know any of the implications of Blackrose. Is it reversible? Does it limit you in any way if you're on it?
2. Kernels
-Back on the Captivate, I feel like it was the roaring '50s with kernels. You could flash whichever kernel you wanted on whatever ROM you wanted...it was all about preference. With the Atrix, it's the opposite...doesn't help that there's basically only 1 stable kernel either. That said, I flashed the latest (non-ICS) MIUI and it looks like it comes with a slightly dated CM7 kernel- is this a big deal? Should I look to update it to something more recent/stable/etc? Or are kernels pretty specific as to ROM compatibility?
3. Radios
-Pretty much same situation with the kernels. I want to be careful because I know the N1 shipped for a couple different carriers, T-Mo and AT&T at the forefront. Now, I'm on AT&T, but the box my N1 came in is marked for Vodafone UK. As I understand it, Vodafone's freq's are the same as T-Mo's, right? Is there any difference between my "vodafone" N1 and one designed to work with T-Mo, AT&T, or any others?
4. Hardware issues/life expectancy/replacement options
-First and foremost, I'm still confused as to whether Nexus 1's are even still being manufactured. I heard somewhere that some UK carriers still sell them (obviously Google stopped doing it direct awhile ago). To me, it's the kinda thing where, in all honesty, I'd love to use the N1 as my EDC forever- the screen size is perfect for me, the Dev community is MASSIVE and very experienced, and the phone is simply iconic. That said, though, I'm wondering how long it'll be until things start to bite it and I have to look for a replacement...and if I'll even be able to find one. Alternatively, I've seen a lot of people say that HTC has been pretty forgiving about replacing busted power buttons and the like. Besides the power button, though, is there anything else I should be keeping an eye on?
Lastly, I want to thank all the Devs who've contributed. Poking around through the dev section gave me an overwhelming sense sense of options, and the conversation here seems a bit more mature than over in the Atrix forums ("WHEN WILL WE HAVE CM7/CM9?!" was almost every other thread...and the poor devs got TORN UP trying to contribute what they could).
Sorry if I blinded anybody with all the writing, but I appreciate any advice or input you can give me.
1. You don't need Blackrose for MIUI. Use A2SD and partition your SD card. How? Search. Help - Wiki link is in my signature.
2. You don't need to switch from default MIUI kernel, unless you want to overclock.
3. Doesn't matter, as long as you're on one of the Gingerbread radios. Any of the latest will be good enough. No difference in baseband builds between different N1 models.
4. You're going to eat a lot of pain with screen touch craziness, which is the most painful part of this phone. The second most painful part is sub-par GPU, but unless you game a lot, you won't notice it - MIUI is smooth. So I'm really in doubt you'll want to keep this phone for a long time. In any case, press the power button gently and closer to the inside of the phone, and avoid pressing it as much as you can (use ROMs with trackball wake and screen lock widget).
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1. You don't need Blackrose for MIUI. Use A2SD and partition your SD card. How? Search. Help - Wiki link is in my signature.
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Thanks for the tip. It occurs to me that I jumped the gun and flashed a ROM before I should have- not that anything bad has happened. Just thinking I'll probably go round two here shortly once I learn all the ins and outs (like Apps2SD...and popping in an SD that bigger than the included 4GB one to make it worthwhile). Thanks for the tips bro.
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2. You don't need to switch from default MIUI kernel, unless you want to overclock.
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Not worried about OCing. UVing might be nice...but I'm thinking unnecessary for battery life- First discharge gave me 1 day 12 hours after WHALE-HEAVY use...and even then I still had 20% left.
This is something I'm actually in awe regarding.
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3. Doesn't matter, as long as you're on one of the Gingerbread radios. Any of the latest will be good enough. No difference in baseband builds between different N1 models.
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Awesome. Now, real quick- did MIUI include a GB radio upon flashing it? I haven't flashed one specifically yet...should I head over to the Kernel/Radio thread and pick one out? Also, just to clarify/double-check, you're saying that a T-Mo N1 = Vodafone UK N1 etc etc? Same hardware and everything? (Obviously excluding N1's designed for AT&T's freq's?)
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4. You're going to eat a lot of pain with screen touch craziness, which is the most painful part of this phone. The second most painful part is sub-par GPU, but unless you game a lot, you won't notice it - MIUI is smooth. So I'm really in doubt you'll want to keep this phone for a long time. In any case, press the power button gently and closer to the inside of the phone, and avoid pressing it as much as you can (use ROMs with trackball wake and screen lock widget).
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Ha! Yep, I've definitely gotten some odd touches from the screen even after my little time with it. I've found I am ALWAYS hitting the home button...or the area that REGISTERS as the home button...whenever I go to press the space bar when typing. Quite possible it's due to having only used Android phones w/ larger, 4" screens...so I'm used to "reaching down farther" for the space bar, so to speak. And about trackball/volume wake & screenlock widget- already on it, ha! Not only is it a lot more convenient, but I figured it's something I should get used to in light of the power button's frailty.
It occurs to me- how wiggly is the trackball supposed to be? When I got my phone and started playing with it, I noticed a slight amount of give before it'd click (to select). Is this normal? While it always returns to it's normal amount of...portruding (sp?)/portrusion, should there be NO give before it clicks? Thanks for the input.
Also...about the screen...are there any mods/hacks to make it more accurate/less glitchy? Fix multitouch snapping? Etc?
Lastly, I'd always rock the V6 supercharger script on my Atrix. Now that I'm on MIUI, do they have it baked in? If not, is it compatible? Does it make a difference?
Thanks for the info/input so far bro I really appreciate it.
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Awesome. Now, real quick- did MIUI include a GB radio upon flashing it? I haven't flashed one specifically yet...should I head over to the Kernel/Radio thread and pick one out? Also, just to clarify/double-check, you're saying that a T-Mo N1 = Vodafone UK N1 etc etc? Same hardware and everything? (Obviously excluding N1's designed for AT&T's freq's?)
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No rom should include a radio, and as a general rule you should always flash radios from fastboot to avoid any problems.
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Also...about the screen...are there any mods/hacks to make it more accurate/less glitchy? Fix multitouch snapping? Etc?
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What can be done has already been done as far as tweaks.
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No rom should include a radio, and as a general rule you should always flash radios from fastboot to avoid any problems.
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Hmm...gotcha. Just wondering (as I didn't mess w/ fastboot until the Atrix- all Captivate radios were just flashed in recovery), what problems could arise from non-fastboot flashes? And how likely is this? Thanks for the info btw.
Update:
Well so I quickly checked the Radio thread, specifically the newest one (from a Korean update?).
Read and read and read and read before doing anything...then went and checked my phone only to find out the baseband version in my setting>about phone matches that of the newest one: 5.12.00.08. Don't know what difference it makes, but I have a "U" halfway through instead of an "H." So, two possibilities: Either my phone shipped with it (Odd as it's a Korea update?), or it was included in the ROM. Either way, I haven't noticed any issues, and I figure I'll leave it be.
Thanks again for the info though fellas.
I know your questions probably have been answered but I'll give it a shot:
1 - Blackrose will repartition the N1's partitions regarding cache, data, and such. If you want MIUI or pretty much any Gingerbread ROM you most likely 99.9% don't need Blackrose or a custom partition layout. Only certain ICS ROMs require Blackrose. The custom HBOOT you are referring to is Blackrose and the custom partition sizes. There are no limits if you are on Blackrose, and you can always get rid of it just as easy as installing it. Getting rid of Blackrose HBOOT will also refer you back to the stock partition layouts, if you made any changes while on Blackrose.
2 - There are a rather great deal of kernels for the N1 out there. I can think of at least 5 main ones, such as Wilmonds, IR's, and many more. Most will work with any ROM, such as CM or MIUI. But as always, backup before you flash. As for need, you don't really need to flash a custom kernel yet it can help. Some kernels boast improving animations and performance while others try to boast battery saving. Just check out the comments of each kernel's thread for a true evaluation.
3 - As for radios, flashing is not really that important. Most N1's are on 5.08 version which is the latest release for the US; all be it that is is a year or so old. There is a newer 5.12 radio released in Korea but there is no need to flash/install it. Some say connection is better but there is no difference if you are in the US. No ROM requires a certain radio.
4 - I had my N1 for almost 2 years with absolutely no issue with any buttons. I do hear that some have issues with the power button however. I guess it depends how well you take care of your device. I have dropped my phone very rarely and I take pretty good care of it. No complaints here.
Hope this helped you. And welcome to the N1 community! Any other questions feel free to ask!
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I know your questions probably have been answered but I'll give it a shot:
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Hope this helped you. And welcome to the N1 community! Any other questions feel free to ask!
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Awesome info bro! Your explanation of Blackrose was especially concise, simple, and informative. Thanks for the kernel advice too! I appreciate it man!
Hey fellas, I hate to double post in the interest of bumping, but there are still a couple questions I'm still wondering about, and I'd rather bumprez than make another/2/3 different threads about each question.
The info you've given me so far has been AWESOME, and I'd appreciate any more input you might have.
Thanks in advance fellas.
What are the remaining questions?
Can't go wrong with Nexus One. Any weakness in memory can be dealt with through blackrose and a2sd. Hardware issues are minimal and even potential power switch problem is easily repaired.
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What are the remaining questions?
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So sorry- let me lay them out:
(And my bad for getting back to this so late- been really quite swamped with life!)
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It occurs to me- how wiggly is the trackball supposed to be? When I got my phone and started playing with it, I noticed a slight amount of give before it'd click (to select). Is this normal? While it always returns to it's normal amount of...portruding (sp?)/portrusion, should there be NO give before it clicks? Thanks for the input.
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Lastly, I'd always rock the V6 supercharger script on my Atrix. Now that I'm on MIUI, do they have it baked in? If not, is it compatible? Does it make a difference?
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Also, I'm wondering about the AMOLED vs SLCD differences- something I don't think I've asked about yet.
Basically, regarding any and all facets of a screen- what are the differences between the AMOLED and the SLCD hardware?
And to reiterate- I'm talking about any kind of difference regarding anything, whether it's vibrancy, clarity, powerdraw, touch-sensitivity/accuracy...anything at all.
Lastly, regarding Blackrose:
So, Androidity3000 gave me a great cliff's notes on Blackrose, but I want to make sure- If I flash Blackrose (which is a custom HBOOT that reconfigures the partition sizes so as to avoid space-constraint issues?) can I just keep that all the time? Can certain ROMs NOT be flashed if I'm running Blackrose? Also, does Blackrose automatically decide the sizes of the new partitions, or do I have to configure the sizes myself? If so, are different configurations better, and why?
Thanks for all the good info and patience so far, breauxs. I appreciate it.
Trackball has some free movement, what you describe seems normal.
I've expressed my opinion on all kinds of "magical" scripts at some other point in time. Look at the free memory you have (which is probably >100MB at any given point in time), and think - do you need anything?
SLCD and AMOLED look a bit different. If you search the forum and Google, I bet you find enough examples and explanations. The question seems way too lazy.
Read the Blackrose thread to understand more, what it is and what it does. Also too lazy of a question.
I just picked up a N1 off ebay. It is in almost new condition got it for $155.00. I moving over from a mytouch 3g fender so the n1 is much better, i love it. This post helped me out alot. I've always wanted the n1 I've had my mytouch since it came out
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I just picked up a N1 off ebay. It is in almost new condition got it for $155.00. I moving over from a mytouch 3g fender so the n1 is much better, i love it. This post helped me out alot. I've always wanted the n1 I've had my mytouch since it came out
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Glad to hear it bro! I like thinking that there have gotta be others with the same questions/concerns as me, and I'm glad this thread was of some use!
...AND that, as it hopefully filled you in sufficiently, you didn't feel the need to make another thread!
Enjoy the phone man!