I wanted to know if imei changing is il-legal in the us? I traded a phone with some one and he told me he is changing the imei for some reason to save money for the phone plan…so if anything wrong happenes with the phone…would that be my problem…or is it the persons problem who changed the imei
Its pretty much illegal everywhere..
so if the phone break...m i liable?
khsbenny said:
Its pretty much illegal everywhere..
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Agreed with khsbenny.
djteotancolis said:
so if the phone break...m i liable?
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Yes unless you can prove otherwise, which wont be too easy.
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Yes unless you can prove otherwise, which wont be too easy.
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what i meant was...after he changes the imei...the phone bricks or something...then am i supposed to take the phone back and cancel the trade
Well after you have traded the phone becomes solely your responsibility unless he puts it in writing some sort of warranty. So you would have to send it back to the manufacturer or try and repair it your self.
If you send it to the manufacture it's likely that the change in IMEI number will be found out and they will probably seize the phone and may investigate.
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Well after you have traded the phone becomes solely your responsibility unless he puts it in writing some sort of warranty. So you would have to send it back to the manufacturer or try and repair it your self.
If you send it to the manufacture it's likely that the change in IMEI number will be found out and they will probably seize the phone and may investigate.
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or "they" might have better things to do.
khsbenny said:
Well after you have traded the phone becomes solely your responsibility unless he puts it in writing some sort of warranty. So you would have to send it back to the manufacturer or try and repair it your self.
If you send it to the manufacture it's likely that the change in IMEI number will be found out and they will probably seize the phone and may investigate.
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sorry you didnt get me yet...i'll explain....
i traded my fuze for his tp...he is into changing imei....so now if he changes the fuze imei...and becasue of the that the phone goes bust...am i supposed to cancel the trade and return his tp back for the broken fuze or is it his responsibility
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sorry you didnt get me yet...i'll explain....
i traded my fuze for his tp...he is into changing imei....so now if he changes the fuze imei...and becasue of the that the phone goes bust...am i supposed to cancel the trade and return his tp back for the broken fuze or is it his responsibility
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There's no clear cut answer. If you buy a phone a brick it, it's your problem. He can't force you to trade back and if he bricks it it's his problem. So as long as you've traded for the phone you want it does matter what he does.
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There's no clear cut answer. If you buy a phone a brick it, it's your problem. He can't force you to trade back and if he bricks it it's his problem. So as long as you've traded for the phone you want it does matter what he does.
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sorry but "it does matter what he does" or "doesnt matter what he does" ..im a bit confused...personally i dont think you have to trade it back...its like me trading phones , spoiling it and asking for a trade back because i ruined the phone...
maybe you should just find someone else to trade/ buy from.
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If this has been discussed, please pardon me.
If i purchased the G1 a few months ago, does it come with a 1 year warranty by default or was an insurance necessary?
I was told the latter by a friend of mine, but he seems to be a total newb at his g1, i cant trust him.
1yr through HTC, which TMo honors, I believe.
-bZj
So if i call t-mobile and say.. I restarted my phone and an update notification came up, applied the update and phone didn't boot, would i get a replacement? I'm not a big fan of scratches and dents.
wddglr said:
So if i call t-mobile and say.. I restarted my phone and an update notification came up, applied the update and phone didn't boot, would i get a replacement? I'm not a big fan of scratches and dents.
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If you bought this phone through T-Mobile, then yes. This is commonly what people do when they have bricked their phone--I'm assuming you have.
Remember kids, it's Radio first then SPL!
And I would have to send the "bricked" phone back?
Comes with the warranty, but that only covers a faulty phone or parts I believe. With insurance you could purposely smash it with a hammer and it would be covered, after a deductible of course.
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And I would have to send the "bricked" phone back?
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Well, duh. If they let you keep it every customer would call and say they had a broken phone just so they could get another one for free!
You will be sent what is called a 'shell' which is just the phone; No battery, back cover, sdcard, anything.
You replace your borked phone and ship them back the bricked 'shell'.
Why not call them now? Pop your fraudulently-bricked-phone-returned-under-warranty cherry.
GenericNode said:
Why not call them now? Pop your fraudulently-bricked-phone-returned-under-warranty cherry.
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LOL if I do call and have them send me the shell, I'll probably brick the thing on purpose.
Thanks all.
G1 Bricked? or not I think Yes...have you Solution for me
hi, i'm new on this forum
G1 Bricked? or not I think Yes...have you Solution for Me?
no fastboot access
no recovery access
press home and power nothing
press camera and power nothing
logo t-mobile stay on the screen
when i press scroll and power blue led mode appear
i have flash my phone many times and no problem
to day big problem, after flash my radio 1.5 for a radio 1.0, because problem with wireless connection, and Now after the reboot my phone no respond
do you have any idee for my problem
perhaps: goldcard solution or.....???
Please thank's for help
Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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thanks you for your rapid ask, but i sure , exist a solution for the brick.
my phoneis not guaranteed because I bought it used
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There's no current solution for a brick. A brick is a brick and you're done. Sorry
I had the same issued as you are having i was also stuck on the t-mobile logo screen because of the radio update, and yes my phone got brick. but since i had insurance on the phone i took it to my local t-mobile made up some excuse that my phone stop working and they gave me a brand new one in store for free. gotta love the extra at 5 dollars you pay for insurance saved me from buying a new one lol.
Yup, you've got a brick. Most common brick actually, downgrading radio 9/10 times seems to leed to a brick. Currently there are no working fixes. There are rumors that either a serial->USB cable might help fix a brick or wiring up a jtag setup. There's info about both on the interwebs but neither has been proven to work on the dream yet afaik.
Here is my question. What were you doing before the brick happened? By chance did you install the special spl?
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Sorry but I think your phone is bricked =[ Try calling T-mobile and tell them you dropped your phone and broke it. (You might actually want to do this, lol) They'll send you a replacement if you still have the warranty
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This is horeible advice you never want to tell them you droped the phone, that's not covered under warranty. Just tell them the phone won't boot. But yeah sound like your phone is fubar.
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This is horeible advice you never want to tell them you droped the phone, that's not covered under warranty. Just tell them the phone won't boot. But yeah sound like your phone is fubar.
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How is it bad advice? Hardware problems are covered by warranty, software are not. the brick is a SOFTWARE problem. T-Mobile does not give replacement g1s that are screwed up because of something you installed that wasn't issued by T-Mobile themself. If you tell them you dropped it , its a HARDWARE problem and they provide replacements...
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How is it bad advice? Hardware problems are covered by warranty, software are not. the brick is a SOFTWARE problem. T-Mobile does not give replacement g1s that are screwed up because of something you installed that wasn't issued by T-Mobile themself. If you tell them you dropped it , its a HARDWARE problem and they provide replacements...
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Telling them you dropped the phone and it no longer boots is your problem and they will say so. "Was it working before you dropped it?" Yes it was "Then it soulds like when "YOU" dropped the phone you messed it up" Hope you have the phone insurance that's the only way you are most likely going to get a new one but it's going to cost you.
While it's a software problem if you drop the phone and break it they do not have to replace it.
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Telling them you dropped the phone and it no longer boots is your problem and they will say so. "Was it working before you dropped it?" Yes it was "Then it soulds like when "YOU" dropped the phone you messed it up" Hope you have the phone insurance that's the only way you are most likely going to get a new one but it's going to cost you.
While it's a software problem if you drop the phone and break it they do not have to replace it.
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Oh god, fine then. You come up with a better story and post back I don't understand your last sentence...In the official tmobile g1 forums they state that they are not responsible for anything you do software wise to your phone ( root, ROMs, spl, brick, etc..)
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Oh god, fine then. You come up with a better story and post back I don't understand your last sentence...In the official tmobile g1 forums they state that they are not responsible for anything you do software wise to your phone ( root, ROMs, spl, brick, etc..)
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simple The OTA got to you for cupcake and you went to install it when the phone rebooted it was stuck at the G1 screen. they will walk you through a few steps and confirm it's messed up. At that point they will send you out a replacement. You do not have to say anything about it being rooted. I just did this for my friends moms phone. He messed it up I called and got her a replacement sent. Now if you are not a T-mo customer you are out of luck though which sucks :/
Hell I had to do this for 2 phones. 1 G1 and 1 Shadow this past week (both phones were modded by me/friend) Shadow was a true hardware issue though and not the mods fault though.
just tell them your phone wont boot up if you cant get to recovery or android screen neither can they on your phone so they will never know what u did to it
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simple The OTA got to you for cupcake and you went to install it when the phone rebooted it was stuck at the G1 screen. they will walk you through a few steps and confirm it's messed up. At that point they will send you out a replacement. You do not have to say anything about it being rooted. I just did this for my friends moms phone. He messed it up I called and got her a replacement sent. Now if you are not a T-mo customer you are out of luck though which sucks :/
Hell I had to do this for 2 phones. 1 G1 and 1 Shadow this past week (both phones were modded by me/friend) Shadow was a true hardware issue though and not the mods fault though.
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Lol okay then. Still think that if you report a hardware issue like you broke it, T-Mobile will still replace it as long as you still have the 1 year warranty that came with it. Like Cyanogen's issue where his touchscreen was messedup. HARDWAREE issue and T-Mobile replaced it
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Lol okay then. Still think that if you report a hardware issue like you broke it, T-Mobile will still replace it as long as you still have the 1 year warranty that came with it. Like Cyanogen's issue where his touchscreen was messedup. HARDWAREE issue and T-Mobile replaced it
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I work for T-mobile and telling them you broke the hardware on the phone is NOT covered under warranty. The manufacture's warranty only covers phone defects not people dropping their phone. A touch screen going out is an example of hardware covered under warranty. Software is covered under warranty as well and all you have to say is the phone won't boot past the G1 screen. Thats all you have to say.
All right. I rest my case then O mighty T-Mobile worker. No sarcasm haha.
Yeah its true, you do have to be careful if you plan on using the warranty route if its not totally legit, but then I suppose it differs depending on region. Over here in the UK it covers quite a few things like accidental dropping of the mobile, water damage etc. Which reminds me, I need to add my mobile to my monthly insurance policy...
The insurance isn't really worth it =/ Even if you claim it you still have to pay 130$ here in NY
Blimey... I pay £6/m (thanks to my credit card policies) instead of the usual £9/m that covers the mobile phone over accidental damage, theft, water damage, software damage etc. However if I do make a claim I think its £30-£40 for a replacement G1.
HELP! Is my g1 bricked?
After reading a few other thread I believe my g1 is bricked.
I was trying to install Superhero G3. After installing the radio provided in this thread:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f56/official-hero-g3-build-rom-18471/
My phone hung at the T-Mobile g1 boot logo.
I can't get into recovery or anything.
I bought the phone from craigslist, so I don't have a warranty or anything. My parents would kill me if they found out I have to buy myself a new phone.
PLEASE I hope there is something I can do to fix this.
for T-Mobile G1 if it's still been under a year since first purchase?
errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed
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errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed
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I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.
Well, do you pay for insurance?
T-Mobile will only replace your phone for certain things. If you drop and break your phone, physical damage, they will NOT replace it. This is why you pay for insurance through your Network Provider (T-Mobile in this case).
Now if you're having software issues, maybe your camera stopped working, or you bricked your phone, you can get T-Mobile to replace it for free, however you need to explain yourself correctly. If you brick your phone, tell them you received and OTA update, and now your phone won't boot up. Or if it is something legitimate like your Camera stopped working for w/e reason (I've had to replace x1 of my G1's because of this, and I received a new one, free of charge), explain that to them, "One day it stopped working, and hasn't worked sense", blah blah. They're probably try and instruct you over the phone to do a wipe/factory reset, just go along with it, and remember: ALWAYS PLAY DUMB.
Anyways, to answer your question:
-if pay for insurance, then yes, you can break your phone as many times as you want, however you have a co-pay to pay (It was $130, it might be less now).
-If you've broken your phone, and don't have insurance, either replace it yourself, or you're screwed.
-If you've bricked your phone, or have some kind of software issue, you can get it replaced for free, as long as you do it right.
Hope that answers your question.
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I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.
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yes this is indeed what i mean. thanks for the help both of you.
personal experience..
I got 6 blackberry pearls in a span of 10 months when they first came out...
I am sending my nexus one back to google and wanted to make sure i unroot the phone so that there are not issue in the returning process.
Can someone guide me to the tutorial how can i do that
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I am sending my nexus one back to google and wanted to make sure i unroot the phone so that there are not issue in the returning process.
Can someone guide me to the tutorial how can i do that
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If I gave some effort I'd find that facepalm picture.
Why do n00bs root their phone?!?!?! JESUS!
Maybe you should have researched what you were going to get yourself into before you rooted your device, there is no way to complete 'unroot' the phone at all. I don't believe google will have the ability to flash the firmware that allows it to go back to stock, so if they're 'nice' they'll have to send it to HTC.
You're **** out of luck, next time research and now you'll have to enjoy your Nexus One. Might I ask, why don't you like it anymore?
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If I gave some effort I'd find that facepalm picture.
Why do n00bs root their phone?!?!?! JESUS!
Maybe you should have researched what you were going to get yourself into before you rooted your device, there is no way to complete 'unroot' the phone at all. I don't believe google will have the ability to flash the firmware that allows it to go back to stock, so if they're 'nice' they'll have to send it to HTC.
You're **** out of luck, next time research and now you'll have to enjoy your Nexus One. Might I ask, why don't you like it anymore?
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Thanks but i need to know why you are saying like that ? I want to return it because i like my other phone better than this one
So r u sure there is no way i will be able to return the phone to google ?
You can't unroot the phone
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You can't unroot the phone
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If i dont unroot = No Return ?
vikramdhani said:
If i dont unroot = No Return ?
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You have completely undoubtedly altered the phone beyond typical repair by Google's end, they will need to invest money in order to have HTC relock the phone. There is no way to 'relock' your bootloader, which is where you voided your warranty. I would not waste their time or your own money in trying to send the phone back rooted in order to obtain a refund
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You have completely undoubtedly altered the phone beyond typical repair by Google's end, they will need to invest money in order to have HTC relock the phone. There is no way to 'relock' your bootloader, which is where you voided your warranty. I would not waste their time or your own money in trying to send the phone back rooted in order to obtain a refund
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The only recourse is to keep it or sell it.
Thanks guys and you have been great help by explaining me in detail i will keep the phone and return the other one in that case guess N1 will be my best friend now
Question my phone is rooted i dropped it the lcd screen is cracked so i paid for asurion to send a replacement phone $130 i hope because my phone is rooted they dont give me an issue i dont think me rooting my phone has anything todo with the insurance fee i pay every month please elaborate if u can!
Might as well try and return it. Wouldn't hurt to see if they accept it.
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Question my phone is rooted i dropped it the lcd screen is cracked so i paid for asurion to send a replacement phone $130 i hope because my phone is rooted they dont give me an issue i dont think me rooting my phone has anything todo with the insurance fee i pay every month please elaborate if u can!
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You're getting a new phone for the $130 deductible... and you don't send your broken one in. You keep it too... Hold on to it and see if you can get a replacement LCD to fix it and sell it later.
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You're getting a new phone for the $130 deductible... and you don't send your broken one in. You keep it too... Hold on to it and see if you can get a replacement LCD to fix it and sell it later.
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Really? I was under the impression you had to send it in by the way the Tmob rep explained it. I've been wondering about that for a while, how it would work in case of theft or something like that. Good information to know
Considering i bought the htc one from ebay with the tester bootload and changed IMEI, would they repair my phone camera if i send it to HTC? Would they keep the phone or would they send it back?
Terramoto said:
Considering i bought the htc one from ebay with the tester bootload and changed IMEI, would they repair my phone camera if i send it to HTC? Would they keep the phone or would they send it back?
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I would imagine since that's a hardware problem they wouldn't do much digging around. As long as you are on stock rom and don't have any obvious changes or root files.
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I would imagine since that's a hardware problem they wouldn't do much digging around. As long as you are on stock rom and don't have any obvious changes or root files.
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The IMEI was changed probably ba ESN, wont they use the IMEI to check warranty? Either way i dont believe they would keep the phone as its not illegal to change anything on the device (I think).
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The IMEI was changed probably ba ESN, wont they use the IMEI to check warranty? Either way i dont believe they would keep the phone as its not illegal to change anything on the device (I think).
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I highly doubt they would keep it. They may check against serial number as far as warranty but I've never dealt with HTC directly. I want to say HTC's warranty is a year and no HTC one has been out a year so every HTC One is still covered by warranty. If anything comes of it just play dumb and say you bought it on Ebay.
When I had to send my One back to get its screen repaired, I asked the rep I was on the phone with about the bootloader. He told me that the bootloader/ROM only becomes a problem when they can't flash it to stock for whatever reason, in which case the repair center will charge extra for the hassle of reflashing your phone. I was also told that flashing my phone to as close to stock as possible should be fine. I doubt they check your software any more than this. As with the "keeping the phone" deal, they probably wouldn't do such a thing unless it was listed as a stolen phone and some agency forced them to keep it.
My broken (shattered glass) screen wasn't covered by the warranty so they probably didn't check my warranty status. It may be different in your situation, but I hope that this helps.
Its to repair the known issue of the red/blue/green tint on the camera, i just want to play safe and get a new camera or a new phone.
Edit: Funny thing happened today, i somehow fixed my camera.
Anyway i was contacted by HTC in Portugal telling me, that because my phone was modified by Sprint the warranty is not valid in europe....
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Its to repair the known issue of the red/blue/green tint on the camera, i just want to play safe and get a new camera or a new phone.
Edit: Funny thing happened today, i somehow fixed my camera.
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how?????