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i've been all over this site as well as others trying to find a fairly simple way to root my T-Mobile G1, non-dev phone running Cupcake 1.6. It looks like the 1-Click Rooting will work but first, before i do anything, i wanted to see if this procedure was still working.
Is it?
When i d/l Cyanogen's Mod i noticed that it d/l the update-cm-4.2.5-signed.zip version as well as the 4.2.7.1. Which one should i use?
It looks like the Radio is the same, so that would be one less step to perform, correct?
i'm attaching a .txt file which i've made so that things/steps are a little clearer for me to follow.
Any help would be appreciated. Have a great morning!
I am a total newb on the scene but from what I understand you can still do the one click root as long as you revert back to cupcake (RC7 for europe, RC29 for US? You will need to check). You can't do it on Donut (Which is 1.6 is it not?).
I might be way off, so hopefully someone more experienced can help you.
As far as the rest is concerned, I have no idea, sorry.
Sigh. i think you're correct -- i already have the 1.6 - Donut. Grrr.
Now i gotta figure out how to get back down to 1.5.
Thanks, zamtetsuken, that was a great help. Maybe i should just stick to the "If it's not broke, don't fix it." routine.
What advantages have you seen with your change to root?
Have a great afternoon!
You're most welcome.
I have been reading (and watching videos) from this website: http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-g1-dream/ today and they have videos that show you how to get back to cupcake, the 1-click root for the G1 and other good stuff.
I haven't actually done it yet, I am trying to do a lot of reading before I do try it, just so I don't mess things up. I know which rom I want to use but some methods require to have a SDCard reader when you're flashing the radio, rom etc, so I need to see if there is a work around as I do not have one. All I hear is good stuff about rooting though, apart from obviously those who brick their phone.
If you do it please let me know how you got on .
If you're running 1.6, part of one of the threads says that you can format your SDcard with your telephone! You don't need a card-reader. i don't have one either and am running PCLinuxOS 2009, fully updated on my home computer.
Have a great afternoon! and thanks for the link to the videos!
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If you're running 1.6, part of one of the threads says that you can format your SDcard with your telephone! You don't need a card-reader. i don't have one either and am running PCLinuxOS 2009, fully updated on my home computer.
Have a great afternoon! and thanks for the link to the videos!
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Yeah, I knew about the format option in 1.6 but in one of those videos once he reverts to cupcake (I believe) he takes out the SD Card while the phone is off and then puts the files on the card and then puts it back into the phone and switches it on. I will have to find out whether I can do it differently,
Thanks for the reply , you going to try it?
you going to try it?
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lol -- i'm working on it.
Am still trying to find an answer to a couple of questions, like will we have access to Market again? Whether i can set Google up with the kind of buy-as-you-go minutes that i have in Mexico through TelCel and wondering how i'm going to obtain all those WEP keys i've got on my present phone again.
Have a great evening!
frazelle09 said:
lol -- i'm working on it.
Am still trying to find an answer to a couple of questions, like will we have access to Market again? Whether i can set Google up with the kind of buy-as-you-go minutes that i have in Mexico through TelCel and wondering how i'm going to obtain all those WEP keys i've got on my present phone again.
Have a great evening!
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I have successfully rooted my phone .
You do get access to Market again. It just seems to work exactly as before . I am not sure how you would get the WEP keys again .
Hey! Congratulations!!! Wow! i'm stuck on the "Set up Gmail." Since i don't have a 3G Plan i'm in the process of getting past STEP1, Sub-section 6 -- lol.
i'm going to call a friend - my son-in-law - and get him to read off the APN settings on his G1. i set it up for him and i think we use the same carrier, TelCel. i need the MCC and MNC settings - i think, in order to get WiFi on this. Then i can set up Google and proceed.
i also had some strange things happen even in Sub-section 4! But it's fixed, so we're still hangin' in there.
Thanks for posting again, Congrats!, and have a wonderful evening!
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Hey! Congratulations!!! Wow! i'm stuck on the "Set up Gmail." Since i don't have a 3G Plan i'm in the process of getting past STEP1, Sub-section 6 -- lol.
i'm going to call a friend - my son-in-law - and get him to read off the APN settings on his G1. i set it up for him and i think we use the same carrier, TelCel. i need the MCC and MNC settings - i think, in order to get WiFi on this. Then i can set up Google and proceed.
i also had some strange things happen even in Sub-section 4! But it's fixed, so we're still hangin' in there.
Thanks for posting again, Congrats!, and have a wonderful evening!
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I answered your post on AndroidOverdrive Fraz. Hopefully it will be what you need to get you up and running.
Thanks, guys, i'm rooted!!!
Have a great evening!
P.D. if anyone is interested in a .txt blow-by-blow, real life experience of how i got this thing working, let me know & i'll upload it or e-mail it to you.
Yea!
First of all, a hello, and thank you, to this forum. You guys have a ton of great content, and I'd be completely sunk without this site.
Anway, here's my issue.
1) My friend had a G1, it worked great, activated on his t-mobile data plan.
2) He gave it to me, but first, he did a factory reset on it. This was unfortunate, as it was on cupcake, with RC33, and I, and everybody I know, lack a data plan.
3) I downgraded to the old android, and RC29, so I could WiFi activate.
4) I activated it successfully via WiFi, but it quickly developed a tendancy to randomly shut down, all the time, unless it was on a charger.
5) Figuring this was somehow caused by the downgrade, I decided to root, and update to a later version.
6) I settled on Cyanogen, and installed it.
7) Now, I'm stuck back at the "touch the android to begin" screen, and in my original dilemma. The <enter>reboot</enter> command doesn't work, now, as it did on RC29. This confuses me. Why is cyanogen, an OS all about customizing, not allowing me to activate via wifi, or have that good old hidden terminal? How do I activate via wifi, on cyanogen?
If you are running Cyanogen, just touch the android and skip the activation procces...all custom roms have that option.
If you dont get that option, then you are not running Cyanogen. As simple as that.
Hey, thanks. Yeah, I just sort of gave up hope when I saw the "touch the android" thing, and couldn't use the old RC29 method.
Sure, enough, it was there, I got wifi on, and am now activated.
jobobalo said:
Hey, thanks. Yeah, I just sort of gave up hope when I saw the "touch the android" thing, and couldn't use the old RC29 method.
Sure, enough, it was there, I got wifi on, and am now activated.
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Dont worry, i went throught the exact same thing xD I took like 2 hours to decide to touch de Android and find that there was that option lol
Im gald i could help you
djluis48 said:
Dont worry, i went throught the exact same thing xD I took like 2 hours to decide to touch de Android and find that there was that option lol
Im gald i could help you
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My happiness is short lived.
I thought cyanogen would fix it, but my phone just started with the random shutdowns again.
It was first triggered when I updated, and attempted to run google maps.
I'm not sure if this is a coincidence, or if reinstalling cyanogen, and avoiding google maps like a plague, might stop thi form happening.
Any insights?
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how can I activate it later after using the skip method?
I can connect to a wifi spot in school. then what? If I open the market app, It would promt me to register an account, But I always get errors even If I'm already connected to wifi.
so i flashed my phone with myns warm donut and i must say i love it and android on the vogue has come a long way since i started using it.
but i have seen other people having this problem too, after activating the vogue they werent able to iota so they could get internet working on sprint, so my question is, is it possible for somebody to make a haret version that would book into windows mobile so people could program and activate their phones then just reboot back to android
just flash back. use windows. flash back to android. you can back up your data using replimenu (install menu). we still have things to perfect on android, I seriously doubt any devs would put their time into this.
tatnai said:
just flash back. use windows. flash back to android. you can back up your data using replimenu (install menu). we still have things to perfect on android, I seriously doubt any devs would put their time into this.
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Yeah, their time would probably be better spent developing / porting a provisioning app for android, don't you think?
Hi, new poster here. I've only just started to tinker with my vogue after 2 years of suffering through WM6.1, unaware of all the outside possibilities. It's quite impressive really and i'm having a grand time with my new toy.
BUT.
I can't for the life of me understand why the data connection is not working.
I installed incubus' HTCSense release first, and it wouldn't connect (small little orange light next to the Ev symbol in notification bar:warning? error?), so I just wiped everything and installed the latest Donut. Now it says everything's fine, i can connect the modem and all, it even gives me an IP... but nothing that actually uses the data connection works; and I can't ping my IP from the outside, either.
I can't possibly be the only one with this problem, yet no thread on this forum seems to be addressing it. Does anybody know how I could track it down or work out a passable solution? I really don't have much use for Android if all it can do is be all kinds of pretty and switch between 5 screens silky-smoothly...
thanks in advance!
Vianney
PS: note that I'm on a Sprint plan, voice 200m + unlimited data, no text.
have you tried flashing back to stock windows, confirming data, then flashing to android again( either build).which voguimg.nbh file did you use?
Like hunter said, you need to flash back to the stock Sprint rom and provision data. You can download the stock rom for the vogue here or off of the Sprint downloads section. Nine times out of ten data problems seem to be because data wasn't provisioned prior to flashing Android.
this is also a good time to mention the forum search tool. since this question has been answered at least 100 times
Thanks for the suggestion! I don't suppose there's any way to save my settings/data while I flash everything back to winmo?
Provisioning might be the issue. But I had been using my Vogue on WinMo for 2 years and using data with no problem... that said, I changed my data plan from by-the-kb to unlimited since, so it might be that?
Hunter, I used incubus' included NBH for his Eclair, and voguimg-240x320-eclair-29-04-10.nbh for Vym's Warm Donut.
Kyle, I searched for a week before posting here so i'm familiar with this tool, but never could find the right answer; I'll happily educate myself if you provide me with the magic search terms.
vianneybon said:
Thanks for the suggestion! I don't suppose there's any way to save my settings/data while I flash everything back to winmo?
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Do a reboot and when the text/code starts scrolling push the volume slide up to get the install menu. There should be an option to backup data. When that's done you can put it into bootloader and flash to winmo. Once you know you have data working on winmo, try browsing around a little, you can go back into bootloader and flash the nbh file you're using for Android. When it reboots go back into the install menu. Install the system and then restore data and you're all set.
Many thanks guys, I switched back (after a few hours and scares), provisioned, switched again, and now I'm just having too much fun awesome job.
hi again
Do you have to redo this everytime data stops working? It was doing just great and stopped all of a sudden 36h ago. Now the modem connects but doesn't even get an IP, no data icon appears in notification bar, and yet all the options (sync, background data...) are back to normal.
ifconfig -a gives me info for 'lo', 'dummy0' and 'usb0', all supposedly ok but with no packet (8 on 'lo') and no error to track down.
Is it likely in need of reprovisioning? Am I going to have to do it every 15 days?
thanks,
V
Your data shouldn't just stop working. Have you trie a reboot?
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several times yeah.
It's just not even trying. The modem says 'done' but that's it, any app using data just says it couldn't establish a connection... i'm baffled.
Hey everyone, I just recently got a Samsung Captivate with Rogers, which is the i896.
I've been hearing a lot about rooting lately and i'm starting to understand a little more about what it is exactly. I'm interested in the idea that it can help speed up the phone and allow for more apps, but I have a few questions.
1) Where can I find the most recent way to root a ROGERS Captivate? I was reading around and read that the "One click fix" does not work anymore
2) Will rooting my phone change the interface of the phone?
3) If something goes wrong and my phone doesn't root, can I go back to the default settings easily?
I might have more questions later on but thats it for now. I'd just also like to hear your opinions on rooting and what exactly YOU have been able to do with your phone by rooting.
Thanks!
welcome ill answer your qs first then ill give you some links to help you out
A)rooting and flashing roms (2 diff things) are easiest done from STOCK 2.1 (which you should have) if you plan on flashing custom roms DONT do the rogers/samsung keis firmware update. it changes the recovery to 3e. (ink below if needed)
B) rooting does not change the interface. ROMS DO
C) if you cant successfully root, nothing has changed. you should be able to tho. and you can UNROOT, and wipe to factory too. for warranty repairs and they will never know.
OPPINION:
custom roms are the way to go, more current, full featured complete and on time, cutomizable, fun, and brain-power using than stock roms.
MY ADVICE: DO IT but TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ. I READ FOR 3 or 4 days before i touched a thing!! and still had very minor issues and things that had to be ironed out. dont let that scare you. its a learning experience. hopefully with the links i give you you will have less SEARCHING TO DO. but you my freind, are in the right fourm and right section, too! i have a good feeling about you already!
YOU CAN DO IT WATERBOY!!!
LINKS!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765 start here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I896 i896 specific crap but see i897 page too, same phone same guts (see rooting, hell read the whole thing)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897 i897 wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213 (3e recovery if you run into that)
oh and it took me forever to learn that there is an ODIN one-click, and an Odin3 1.7, both flashing programs but DIFFERENT, we can use ODIN one-click but not recomended it flashes AT&T stock back. ALSO not to be confused with one-click ROOT,,,
Typically its best to read around but you can use the following for rooting and unrooting
It doesn't change the interface
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I used it, no issues and now with a new ROM as well - you will stumble on many thing but this site has everything but u need to read a bit
Hey there, the rogers captivate is the same as the at&t captivate. I found a rogers phone in the snow, wiped, rooted and unlocked it. Installed at&t firmware and then flashed serendipity. I'm using it on telus no problem. Everything in this captivate forum will work great.
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First of all, thank you guys so much for giving me real replies instead of a bunch of "Go read for yourself" or "try the search button" lol... I've been doing some reading but I needed to ask a few direct questions.
@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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First of all, thank you guys so much for giving me real replies instead of a bunch of "Go read for yourself" or "try the search button" lol... I've been doing some reading but I needed to ask a few direct questions.
@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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Just rooting the phone does not change the interface at all. Rooting just allows you access to the locked system files so you can change them.
Also you won't have to use terminal commands to do hardly anything, but it would be a good practice to learn how to use it.
From there you can change your keyboard if you like. There are a few keyboards out there that are better than the stock keyboard is, as far a functionality.
Be warned once you get onto flashing and modding your phone, its like an addiction, and you probably wont be able to stop.
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Hey there, the rogers captivate is the same as the at&t captivate. I found a rogers phone in the snow, wiped, rooted and unlocked it. Installed at&t firmware and then flashed serendipity. I'm using it on telus no problem. Everything in this captivate forum will work great.
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Did you try and find the actual owner first?
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Did you try and find the actual owner first?
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Ya, but no one called the phone. The screen was locked and I couldn't get into the phone. I think it was outside for a while, reported lost and deactivated.
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@Trusselo, i'm not too ignorant to computers. I know my way around a computer and used to do some web design and basic coding so i'm somewhat okay.
My only concern is that once i've rooted my phone, I have to use some sort of unix/linux commands to work around my phone and do things? Is this true? Also, I read that the rooted version has a different keyboard? I still have a hard time getting used to this touchscreen board.
SIDE QUESTION ABOUT CAPTIVATE AND WIFI: This is my biggest problem right now, its actually a small problem but it gets annoying. Basically, my WiFi stays connected when i'm at home but sometimes it seems like it slows done or the connection lags or even stops working. I can usually tell if this is happening because pages don't load fast enough in the browser or don't load at all. While this is happening, my wifi connection still says "Connected" though. I always have to go back, disconnect, re-type my password, connect again. Then I go back and it works fine. Is there any way to fix this?
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i really hope that you didnt think i was accusing you of not being good with computers or being patronizing, i was just trying to provide you (or anyone else that reads this) with as much info as i could, while not doing the work for you.
terminal commands: ive never had to use them, no adb shell, no terminal emulator on phone, although it wouldnt be outside of my skill, i just prefer to do it without learning something i dont need to. (yet.. still thinking about learning some apping)
keyboard: rooting does not change any part of the UI at all, all rooting does is allow you to access (read / write / copy /delete) protected system files. And you can only do those scary things with use of other root apps after rooting your phone.
wifi: this is why some people flash new modems, if you still have issues and really want to send it back for warranty, dont worry, you can have it back good as new in no time!
Not too sure what you mean by flash new modems... ? And I wasn't accusing you of anything lol. Just letting you know that i'm not 100% dumb when it comes to computer but even then I don't know if I would be ready to use typed commands and stuff to use my phone.
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Not too sure what you mean by flash new modems... ?
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The modem is simply what the phone uses for connectivity. It is a separate piece of the firmware that can be flashed on its own. It is a topic that is a little beyond the scope of this post. However, there is a stickied thread in the Captivate development forum called 'the modem thread' that outlines a lot of the information. The main reason many people do this change is that some experience better connectivity, lower battery consumption, and some other benefits. Again modems are beyond the scope of this post, so I encourage you to read that sticky, as there can be some pitfalls to changing modems. Best of luck and enjoy the great phone!
Oh okay thank you. I thought you meant I would have to take my phone back and get a new one. The WiFi works fine, its just that I have to disconnect, enter my wifi password, then reconnect sometimes for it to work properly.
Do you mean that the WiFi is something that can be changed after the phone is rooted to work better?
Can't say for sure, but it's always worth rooting anyway.
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