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Router in hotel room

I'm wondering if anyone here has traveled to a hotel (room) where they only offered wired internet and were able to use a router to "wifi" their room
I know, in general terms, this can be done...but i'm trying to avoid bringing a laptop (would like to bring only my tablet)
the only thing is that i don't know if the hotel wired connection asks you to log in or hit an "i agree" to the terms before allowing you to connect to the internet
if this is the case (that you are being proxied through a login or "i agree" for terms)...is it possible to do with a standard router, where i would just connect my router to the connection and being able to send the connection wifi?
i know i can set up the bulk before i go on my trip (set up the ssid, password, etc)...but i'd just like to plug the router and use the wifi connection on my tablet to accept the terms, if any
hope i'm clear in my query...thanks for the help!

Never tried it, but I'd imagine that whatever login portal might come up from a wired connection would also come up on the wireless connections, step through that, and browse...

I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Also some hotels dont make you login, or click I agree, but most of the ones I stayed at did.And even with the router you'll be able to connect one device only.

jaszek said:
I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Also some hotels dont make you login, or click I agree, but most of the ones I stayed at did.And even with the router you'll be able to connect one device only.
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Static IP everything at 192.168.1.100 and deal with IP conflicts?

i guess i could test...i only want one device to be connected to the router anyway..so multiple ip's are not a problem..
the problem i see is that the portals that the hotels make you log onto usually assign an ip to that mac address..which would be my router...so wouldn't my tablet not have an internet connection?
would bridge mode be a better option? (after searching a few forums, someone suggested that)
i know travel routers have particular firmwares that allow you to browse through that portal to let you log in...but i'm assuming it is just makign the router into a bridge? i would assume a standard router (i have dd-wrt installed on it) would be able to do it as well?

I don't think that will be an issue, but if that happens, clone the MAC... in terminal emulator as root:
#ip l set eth0 address <mac>

I can't "thank" you for some reason...the button is not popping up...but i will when i see it again...thanks and i will let this thread know when it happens to see if it works...

No thanks button in OT.

Chromecast on public wifi networks?

I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?

alex94kumar said:
I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Does your dorm/apartment room have a wired ethernet connection as well? You could probably buy a cheap router and set a small private wireless lan.
I never lived in the dorms when I went to school but my ex girlfriend did and this is what I did for her.

brooksyx said:
Does your dorm/apartment room have a wired ethernet connection as well? You could probably buy a cheap router and set a small private wireless lan.
I never lived in the dorms when I went to school but my ex girlfriend did and this is what I did for her.
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Ah! I never thought of this! While this will definitely work for me, I worry about other consumers who buy Chromecast who won't have access to ethernet/a router

alex94kumar said:
Ah! I never thought of this! While this will definitely work for me, I worry about other consumers who buy Chromecast who won't have access to ethernet/a router
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There is no protection or security unfortunately - this is something that Google really needs to address.

Yeah, even if it's just a 3 or 4 digit pin, i'd be perfectly fine with that

J33per said:
There is no protection or security unfortunately - this is something that Google really needs to address.
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What security risks do you guys expect?

Echodawg said:
What security risks do you guys expect?
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I will have this device in a dorm room at college, on the school's wifi network
Anyone with the Chromecast app and is near me could hijack my TV

alex94kumar said:
I will have this device in a dorm room at college, on the school's wifi network
Anyone with the Chromecast app and is near me could hijack my TV
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Ahh, I see.
I thought you were worried about hacking through the GCast to your phone or comp.
I haven't gotten mine yet but I would assume it works through google services and you would sign in with your google account or a pin would pop up on the TV to link the two.

I really hope that Google does an update soon that adds some kind of basic security. As others have said, a simple four digit code that is displayed on the TV that you need to type into your device would be fine.

Mr. Steve said:
I really hope that Google does an update soon that adds some kind of basic security. As others have said, a simple four digit code that is displayed on the TV that you need to type into your device would be fine.
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I wholeheartedly agree

It would work as long as
1. The network admin of your school didn't shutdown the port its running on (which is most likely)
2. Your college doesn't have a sign in page after you log in

Echodawg said:
Ahh, I see.
I thought you were worried about hacking through the GCast to your phone or comp.
I haven't gotten mine yet but I would assume it works through google services and you would sign in with your google account or a pin would pop up on the TV to link the two.
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There is no security, no login, nothing. If you are on the same network as a Chromecast, it will show up in the extension or apps and you would be able to take over the screen.

typ_ex said:
It would work as long as
1. The network admin of your school didn't shutdown the port its running on (which is most likely)
2. Your college doesn't have a sign in page after you log in
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Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.

xnatex21 said:
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
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You can try to hide the SSID from being broadcasted by the router

xnatex21 said:
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
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My daughter lived in the dorms at San Jose State. The first thing we did every fall was add a wifi router to the LAN in her room. There was never an issue.
Another daughter went to Loyola Marymount. Same thing there.

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Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
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Why would a school have a policy against additional wifi networks in living quarters and also how would they police that??
I went to a state college of 20,000 students, no way they can stop that. Not that they would.
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Also I doubt that if you link up to the schools wifi and try to connect to your chromecast it won't work. Wifi networks like that have many ports and features blocked to prevent you from connecting to other peoples computers/etc who don't have any security settings enabled. Sadly this will most likey stop you from being able to do not shady network stuff yourself. Best bet is set up your own local lan.

My college would find the wireless routers sending signals and search that building for them. It was a pain to deal with. Good luck.
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set up a wireless network from your laptop;
www.connectify.me
and use your laptop as a router

Chromecast may not work on Public Wifi
alex94kumar said:
I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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You may not be able to use it on the schools public wifi network without setting up your own access point.
It's a bit tricky to explain, and this is something could be addressed in a future update, but....
Many public wifi networks allow you to connect without a password to the network - and then they limit your access until you click a button to agree to a terms of service. Currently the Chromecast will connect to the network but it appears there is no way for it to 'click the accept button'.
A similar thing happens at many commercial places, like starbucks or macdonalds, where they offer free wifi.
Google tech support says the Chromecast was not designed to be used on public networks.
I do hope it does work out for you, and if it does not, that Google offers an update to resolve this sometime.

brooksyx said:
Why would a school have a policy against additional wifi networks in living quarters and also how would they police that??
I went to a state college of 20,000 students, no way they can stop that. Not that they would.
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Also I doubt that if you link up to the schools wifi and try to connect to your chromecast it won't work. Wifi networks like that have many ports and features blocked to prevent you from connecting to other peoples computers/etc who don't have any security settings enabled. Sadly this will most likey stop you from being able to do not shady network stuff yourself. Best bet is set up your own local lan.
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It's quite simple actually. There are only 3 non-overlapping 2.4GHz channels and in order to cover a whole college dorm, they need all 3 channels. Any additional APs will DESTROY coverage for the surrounding rooms. If students knew how much their neighbors were killing their wifi, they would hate each other.
I work at a university of about 8,000 students and we have an intern go through the logs on our wireless controllers about once a week, make his rounds with nice little notes that explain the school's policy about personal APs and inform students of the $100 fines for not removing it. Sound pretty controlling? Absolutely! But I've done extensive tests, as have our sister schoolers, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that having individual APs wrecks the wireless for everyone that isn't in the same room as the Ap.
And to the OP: Chromecast will not work on your school's wifi. Did some testing this morning, and it requires P2P over wireless, which no sane network admin would have enabled.

Using Chromecast in a hotel

I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!

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I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3020
2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...

Worse comes to worse you could always use a phone or tablet as a hotspot!

pentafive said:
I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use:
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2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...
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Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?

I have this same question. I read on the developer site that wireless isolation must be disabled in order to use the chromecast. This could be a problem since most public WiFi has this feature enabled (and if they don't they should!). I have a chromecast, a tablet, and an android phone so if the hotel WiFi doesn't work I can always hotspot with phone and control with tablet. However, this is not ideal since I don't have unlimited data plan. It will be interesting to see how much data the various apps' use. I have 3 trips planned the next 3 weeks and will see how it goes!
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thenoname said:
Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?
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A computer with wifi (a computer just jacked into a router in wont work) is a necessary part of setting up chromecast to a new network.
edit: actually i might be wrong on that, testing something now
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Okay, this is what I just did.
I turned Wireless Tether on my phone on. This means wifi can't be on at all and thus your phone can't be on the same network as the chromecast, and won't be able to control chomecast.
BUT
I downloaded the Chromecast app from the playstore to my Nook HD+. It found the Chromecast on my home network and I tapped on it, and saw my Chromecast on my home network (which the nook was also on). I was able to change it from my home network to my phone. This changed the network both my Nook and Chromecast were connected to from my home network to my phone network. I just chromecasted netflix from my Nook to my TV via chromecast fine. So basically I was able to set it up on a new network with no need for a computer.
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
Annoyingly, once I turned off tethering, the chromecast borked and I had to re-run setup to get it back on my home wireless network. So, it doesn't seem to save multiple networks, unless I did something wrong.

thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
http://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-share-wi-fi-in-windows-8-with-internet-connection-sharing-ics/
or this:
http://virtualrouterplus.com/
and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
http://mywindows8.org/how-to-use-dlna-server-in-windows-8/

cabbieBot said:
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
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If needed you could always factory reset your Chromecast by holding down the button for 25 seconds. If you do that, you can set it up from the Chromecast app on your nook and set it to your phone's hotspot.

legendnexus said:
HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
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or this:
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and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
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Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)

You wouldn't want to connect a chrome cast to public wifi anyways. Then the guy in the room next door could mess with your playback. Travel Router/Hotspot are your best bets (plus being on your own network is a better idea for privacy and security anyways).

thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.

Vandam500 said:
I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.
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I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?

crc301 said:
I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?
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Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
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Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
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I'd say ask to speak with a Tier2 and explain the whole situation. They may very well disable the isolation for at least that one night if you get lucky. This is all if you visit one of the locations that we manage. Not sure about other companies.

I suppose you could plug a computer into the hotel's hardwire Internet and enable wireless Internet Connection Sharing rather than bringing a router, if you will already be bringing a computer anyway.

thenoname said:
Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)
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actually there is no need of program on the first linkk
on the second link someone pretty much write a code for the steps on the first link

MAC spoofing
I was wondering if this would work.
If I were to spoof the MAC of the chromecast on my cell phone, connect to the hotel wireless, sign in through the gateway, then un-spoof my MAC and connect again with my real MAC. Wouldn't the gateway whitelist both MACs?

Depends if it is whitelisting off MAC or off IP. Either way, you still have wireless isolation problem. There would need to be some type of cloud based controller built-in to chromecast that could forward commands between chromecast and client(s).
Google...if your listening please develop chromecast cloud controller. That would be awesome
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Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

Here is another thread with a similar discussion

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Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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Do these things need a wired connection? Those are becoming rare in hotels. Is there a product that creates a personal wifi network, while getting internet from public wifi?

[Q] isp issues

So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Jared

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So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
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How do they know what device has what MAC? The only thing I can think of is they're doing some blanket blocking by vendor ID (which is part of the MAC)
Chromecast's vendor is Azurewave, so if they're blanket blocking devices that use Azurewave hardware, that's a LOT of devices.
More likely they're tracking and blocking unknown MAC addresses.
They could also be blocking streaming traffic, but Chromecast should at least be able to reach the Internet.

Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.

Can I ask whats your location what country??

Asphyx said:
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
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@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?

bhiga said:
@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
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I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
Truth is I would tell the ISP to GFT and stop blocking things I pay them to provide.
I bet there is not a single mention of blocked media devices in the contract which means they are essentially in breach for not providing Internet access.

Asphyx said:
I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
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If the PC is wired, it wouldn't connect to the building wireless...
but that brings up a good point - @theatomizer90 is there a wired Internet connection in your flat/whatever?
If so, you could just connect your own router and connect all your devices to that... The building's network wouldn't know about any of your individual devices unless it's very high end. It's the same as I do in hotels.
It wouldn't help if they're doing packet/traffic filtering though... again, same as hotels...

No hard line... such a bummer. I went and complained to the manager but I doubt anything will come of it.
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Krisshp said:
Can I ask whats your location what country??
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Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.

theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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I get to play with enterprise-class routers from time to time and even they have limits. It depends on both the AP hardware (usually there is a maximum number of associated stations before things start going round-robin) and the router hardware itself as the overall traffic load increases.
Some folks in your situation (not specifically with Chromecast, but general connectivity challenges) have success using cantennas to use more-distant wireless, rather than their limited local infrastructure, but it really depends on the individual situation.

theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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Well one solution that would work is to get yourself a travel router...
(An example not a recommendation as I have not used it do some research before you pick one) http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-WL-330N3G-Wireless-N-Mobile-Router/dp/B004OT05LC

The easiest thing to do would be to spoof a wireless access point, there is all kinds of free software to do it. Connect tablet to Wi-Fi. Spoof a wireless ap. Connect cc to spoofed Wi-Fi.
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Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)

I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.

Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.

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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.

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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right

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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.

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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.

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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.

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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.

All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,

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All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!

Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.

I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653

I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?