i saw this thread over in the vogue rom development. thought i'd bring this to everyones attention over here. 1 person confirmed that it does work but it needs some work. i thought maybe one of the android developers can take a look at it???
it's being looked at and multitouch is already available for many android applications, we've just never had support etc because of the whole resistive screen thing.. So we'll see what happens..
No promises, no timelines, let's not get silly on this thread with "I can't wait to see that!" style responses
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man if we can get this to work that would be awsome!!
speaking of features that would be awesome
i was wondering if anyone knew the tweak for
sliding between android screens a bit easier (lik htc sense ui rosie)
Its smoother with sense ui rosie than regular android.
(i didnt wanna make a new thread for this)
This is why I started the thread. I knew it'd make its way over to the Android devs and hopefully go somewhere. Its cool but not enough for me to go back to WinMo.
intimidatorx31 said:
speaking of features that would be awesome
i was wondering if anyone knew the tweak for
sliding between android screens a bit easier (lik htc sense ui rosie)
Its smoother with sense ui rosie than regular android.
(i didnt wanna make a new thread for this)
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Just letting you know enabling multitouch on a resistive touch screen does not make it as responsive as a capacitive one. It just allows more than one point to be registered at a time.
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Just letting you know enabling multitouch on a resistive touch screen does not make it as responsive as a capacitive one. It just allows more than one point to be registered at a time.
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haha that wasnt my question. Capacitive screens use electricity or w/e in your fingertips; hence you barely touch and it recognizes. Resistive screens requires pressure.
Progress Multitouch on resistive screen is as fast as polar ice caps melting.
what i was referring to was how "MUCH" you have to swipe in order to get to the page on the left or right.
In htc sense builds
*you barely have to slide and it recognizes that you wanna get to another page.
In android builds (non htc rosie aka sense ui)
*you have to swipe alot (probably from one side of the screen to the other side).
I know this is possible because i've used panda hero theme (Which emulates sense ui). And the swiping was noticeably less resistant almost lik those htc sense builds i was refering to.
i think i have to make a video just to ask my question if im not explaining it that well.
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This looks promising! I can't wait till the devs get a hold of this one!
http://www.larvalabs.com/product_pages/intelligent_home_screen.html
Imo this blows MotoBlur and Sense UI out of the water. Looks great and much more efficient than the standad launcher. I hope addons will be vailable in the market to add new notifications for things like facebook. I think I'm more excited about this than flash..
it does seem promising but will it run better and/or as well than the standard Sense UI or the MotoBlur?
This looks very, very trick.
And you posted this in development why?
But I do like that interface idea. WinMo 6.5 anyone?
Was just about to post this loool, lucky i searched to see if i was the only one with the news.
Looks awesome, if someone ports this etc.. it will be great.
this looks very very promising!
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And you posted this in development why?
But I do like that interface idea. WinMo 6.5 anyone?
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I agree, for me if I wanted a homescreen like that I would just stick to WinMo. Well, probably don't want the thing crashing on me so I wouldn't go with WinBlows. Hehe, but I assume some people find it more useable, wouldn't it be better as a full-screen widget of some sort? that way you could still use the multiple home screens, just have the larva labs one on the main screen... hmmm
Looks interesting. I'm waiting for it.
On the other hand, this is an app, not a ROM development deal, so I moved the thread.
So essentially this is just a double-ended windowshade? Drag down to see notifications and up to see widgets? I still prefer the standard setup where notifications remain in the minimized windowshade until it's dragged down. It also seems this would make it more cumbersome to launch apps.
IMO Larva Labs should stick to making games.
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I agree, for me if I wanted a homescreen like that I would just stick to WinMo. Well, probably don't want the thing crashing on me so I wouldn't go with WinBlows. Hehe, but I assume some people find it more useable, wouldn't it be better as a full-screen widget of some sort? that way you could still use the multiple home screens, just have the larva labs one on the main screen... hmmm
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As a widget you wouldn't be able to drag, as it would drag the widget itself, so it would have to use buttons instead...
I'm not impressed.
HOWEVER, I am conducting beta testing/bug detection for SweeterHome.
WOW! should you see some of the features that SH will be coming out with!
I can't wait till it is finalized! It's working great right now - but, there are several more features that are being developed and some final tweaks that have to be made.
This program has a cool concept... But, I still want to be able to see my wallpaper, my widgets, etc.
This app is just too plain vanilla.
Wouldnt this be a good idea if it just took up one screen, instead of being the only one? That way people could loook at all their cool widgets and what not
i want to try this
From what I heard it's a lockscreen? =\
So it's similar to Flyscreen, but only with one screen?
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So it's similar to Flyscreen, but only with one screen?
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Flyscreen is not a home replacement, this is.
I would like this as a lock screen also.
But
Sweeter home ftw
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I'm not impressed.
HOWEVER, I am conducting beta testing/bug detection for SweeterHome.
WOW! should you see some of the features that SH will be coming out with!
I can't wait till it is finalized! It's working great right now - but, there are several more features that are being developed and some final tweaks that have to be made.
This program has a cool concept... But, I still want to be able to see my wallpaper, my widgets, etc.
This app is just too plain vanilla.
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I have a grudge against the dev of Sweeter Home for taking so long to update his HR :/
And it won't pass till the new release is available and I can steadily use it as my default HS.
Regarding SH - The dev is working on SH when not at work. She had a project at her regular job that took up ALL of her time and she had to abandon her personal projects for awhile. She is now working hard on SH again. But, because of her constant updates and some cool innovations that she doesn't want to be stolen she is only allowing a very few people to beta test (also, she gets enough info from the beta testers she has to stay busy - more testers would just complicate her job). But, she is making a LOT of progress. She has about five or six completely new features, it runs smoother, and looks great so far. Just be patient.
Didn't mean to highjack this thread. I like the idea behind this app. But, I wouldn't want it as a home replacement. It would be nice if it could operate as a window shade. A user could decide the screen to place the shade pull on and on what side of that screen. Then the user could pull it out select an option and the shade would draw back as the selection implemented. Or, while adjusting the app it would stay open until the "close shade" button was selected.
That IMHO would be a MUCH better option than a home screen replacement.
Hey guys found this over at android spin. I think it looks pretty damn cool. I just wonder how piratical it will be for day to day use. I mean we can always use more software to complicate our UI.
http://www.tat.se/home/
Whoa! I'm excited for this, if the implementation turns out as smoothly as it looks.
It's like Sense: The Sequel.
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Whoa! I'm excited for this, if the implementation turns out as smoothly as it looks.
It's like Sense: The Sequel.
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you mean Sense's ugly cousin. Sense all day everyday! brings out the color in my screen
Of course in taking closer looks it's important to separate WOO SHINY EYECANDY from... actually useful.
E.G. will this make my device better, or just get in the way?
In terms of that it's hit and miss. But I do like, for instance, the means of setting the alarm clock (why go into a different screen? This solution seems quick and intuitive), and the 'folding' UI elements - such as the SMS widget, etc. If you don't need them, they fold out of the way. One problem I had with Sense is that most every widget commands the full screen, not leaving me space for much else, regardless of whether or not I'm using the widget at the time.
The widget 'fan' is interesting but I think I prefer the typical 'card' view. The ability to easily drag widgets and shortcuts directly to specific screens is certainly a time saver.
I'm curious to see where this will go in its final iteration -- much like concept cars, everything looks shiny and pretty, but the final product ends up stripping out a lot of the shiny pretty eyecandy in lieu of more practical, intuitive fare.
Good UI design, after all, should be transparent.
ide take this "ugly cousin" over sense any day
+1 Sense is to bulky and doesn't fare well for everyday use. The screens taken for the video were taken fron a MT3G so hopefully we will see that level of smoothness from 1st gen android devices TAT Home is just one of a ton a exciting new things that came out at MWC, cant wait for the beta to drop.
Here is some stuff from an email reply I got from TAT.
We are currently in alfa and expect to reach beta in a couple of weeks.
After that, we will slowly but surely start to roll out the preview to some of the 17,000 people who've signed up so far,
starting with specific Android versions and screen resolutions as we won't target all of them in the first version.
If your are lucky and make it to the list of testers, you'll hear from us in a month or so
I don't remember what forum it was but someone also posted an email reply and they stated that the Nexus1 screen res is supported at start. I also think the G1 should be gtg because it looks like a HTC Hero in the vid.
OK, I know right off the bat that this is a dumb question, but I just can't figure out what the big deal about Espresso is. I've searched many, many times, but that just brings up people asking how to install it.
What I'm curious about is what's the big deal? What does Espresso bring to the table? Functionally, not cosmetically, why would I want Espresso on my phone?
Because if it's just a cosmetic change, people surely wouldn't be cluttering up threads so much asking about it, right?
It brings nothing but a newer looking Rosie Bar. I for one cant stand it and would prefer the stock Rosie to Espresso. Ive also grown to like the Droid Launcher...
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It brings nothing but a newer looking Rosie Bar. I for one cant stand it and would prefer the stock Rosie to Espresso. Ive also grown to like the Droid Launcher...
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
I for one think any variation of rosie is ugly, I prefer nexus launcher. I also liked launcher2, with the app dock. That sinistermashes dudes idea for a dock as a launcher was a kewl idea. Conservative and intuitive.
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Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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Neither the Droid Launcher or Espresso themes ditch Sense. They just change the look of the launcher bars at the bottom of the screen. All the Sense features and widgets still work fine with either of them.
I like the stock rosie or the nexus launcher, at least those tell you which screen you're on. The expresso doesn't and it's big... too much space taken up.
I don't get what the big deal is.
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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The Droid Launcher I put together doesnt get rid of Sense.
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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Mind directing me to a screenshot of the Droid launcher? I'm intrigued.
Can anyone tell me how to restore the stock rosie? I want that expresso gone.
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Mind directing me to a screenshot of the Droid launcher? I'm intrigued.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6048904&postcount=1349
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The Droid Launcher I put together doesnt get rid of Sense.
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I'll check it out. As I said, I'm not attached to sense, I just can't bring myself to get rid of a few of the widgets that rely on it.
That said, from a cosmetic point of view, I think Espresso is going about 10 years backwards from a UI design point of view. I also think the stock, Google developed Android launcher belongs somewhere in the Windows 3.1 league.....
Then again, I also don't understand why people give a crap about the lockscreen. I always just do a quick double click on the menu button and never see it in the first place.
Maybe I'm just not the target audience for these particular tweaks....
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I'll check it out. As I said, I'm not attached to sense, I just can't bring myself to get rid of a few of the widgets that rely on it.
That said, from a cosmetic point of view, I think Espresso is going about 10 years backwards from a UI design point of view. I also think the stock, Google developed Android launcher belongs somewhere in the Windows 3.1 league.....
Then again, I also don't understand why people give a crap about the lockscreen. I always just do a quick double click on the menu button and never see it in the first place.
Maybe I'm just not the target audience for these particular tweaks....
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Id give up sense in a heartbeat if i could find a bookmark widget and email widget as nice as senses. And the full weather animations too.
I hear beatiful widgets has animations? Same level as 2.1?
Can you do it?
Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Yes, I want Sence I've had so many HTC with Sense and like it especially 3.5.
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Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Do i want sense? Yes, Its great! Touchwiz is not as refined.
Sense features i miss
The great Audio player, Better than power amp (In my opinion)
Fantastic lockscreen (customizable)
Great People, weather and calendar widgets
Perfect Dialpad
Well designed SMS and email client
And all the other sense themed widgets.
I know i lot of these features can be added with apps from the market, But none i have found so far have the Tidy uniform look of sense. Parts of touchwiz look like they have been made by a colour blind monkey! Also one of my biggest gripes with touchwiz is the lockscreen (poor animation, lack of customization and sometimes unresponsive) If i try to use a different lockscreen, NoLED stops working, which i like because the lack of a physical notification LED.
So far i have tried-
SPB shell 3D - expensive, and still needs some work for are device, but looks cool. More looks over substance
Launcher Pro - Its OK, just basic
Go laucher, Go Locker, Go Contacts - Good attempt, just not as refined and not optimized for the screen resolution of the note
The note, hardware wise, is the best Phone (yes it is a phone) I have owned. Personally i feel touchwiz needs some work.
Now others may love touhwiz, So i do not want this thread to turn into a fanboi thread of either way! This is just my opinion, its not intended to irritate anybody.
For one, i would love to see a sense rom for such great hardware!
Overall i like the note, and with any luck ICS will null my gripes.
Sorry to OP if i have hijacked this thread, Just sparked all my (common) sense thoughts off at once
Also best place for questions is the Q&A section.
Take it easy
O_G
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Can you do it?
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no wont be done
For me TouchWiz and Sense is same ****. Go Launcher is normal. Holo is the best launcher I ever use. I hope samsung will not forget or ignore about this.
It was hard to get used to touchwiz after Htv Sense for first few days. I tried to find similar widgets to make it more look and function like htc sense. Then as more I get used to touchwiz the less I hated it. If I had a choice I would still prefer htc sense as already mentioned it is pretty well designed graphically and functionally out of the box. But I discover some touchwiz features missing in htc sense too. For instance uninstalling apps right from the app drawer is awesome just as practical as uninstalling on iphone. Samsung touchwiz seems to have it all as separate widgets and os wise but they are not as a whole package in terms of visual integrity and not as functional as sense considering each app separately. Some of features like remote tracking is not even in default rom unless you add them urself later which takes some research to even find out it's even possible. HTC sense serves it all as a whole package , even the navigating software you can purchase it right from the htc location widget and it is adapted to rest of widgets. Contact integration from different accounts like facebook, google, twitter etc is merged automatically on htc sense by choice which is missing on touchwiz. You have to add your htcsense user id and pass only once on Sense and it is recognized automatically on related apps like "htc likes" but on touchwiz you have to add your samsung account each time again and again for apps like "samsung apps" etc... Considering outstanding hardware features of Gnote I have no intension to go back to htc just for sense as none of their devices are even close to gnote recently but I would definitely like to see samsung engineers put more effort on improving touchwiz in terms of compatible graphic design, integrated all-in features , user friendly ui to make it more competitive against htc sense which seems to be only superiority of htc devices still left.
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Not going to happen people. Have you EVER seen a non HTC device with Sense? Correct, and that won't change.
Moto Milestone had sense port
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Im surprised it took 4 months for this kind of thread to pop up. I will never understand the ram hogging hype. It reminds me of iphone users bragging about a million apps so they can swipe the screen from left to right doing nothing.
But all in all we are using android which gives us plenty of options. If a clone of sense doesnt work. Theres always that option of making it yourself.
I swore launcher pro widgets were a exact replica of htc sense. Matched up with a theme and it was good to go. Plus that customizable widget app that did more things then htc lockscreen. But im guessing this isnt good enough.
Sense used to be great and now it's just too bloated
Thanks for the responses. I guess its each to here own. Now i have been assigned to this forum, i shall put this thread in its correct place.
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sense just has the best dialer avaible. the touchwiz dialer just doesnt find if i search for "uiop" and there is clearly a "qwertz uiop" in the contacts. sense dialer finds that.
aldo the touchwiz keyboard is odd... long press makes caps lock chars... sense gives you signs like "+ -*& %". i solved that with swiftkey x... but for the dialer theres no replacement right now. ex dialer is the closest but it needs 10 seconds or more to load the call log. thats not acceptable.
i like that the phone features of a phone are excelent, not just satisfiyng.
Why are there two of the exact same thread..?
From the exact same person..
Sense is an abomination, why would you want to buy the fastest phone available just to bog it down with bloatware, reducing it to a level of performance of a 1GHz single-core? But, to each his own - sadly, no way to make a Sense rom for a non-HTC device, if only for legality reasons. Sense is, at least partly, proprietary code.
Sense is the best out of the box android UI. Period.
I've just recently got my Galaxy Note and I'll admit I do miss the sense from my HTC Desire HD. Personally, it seems more intuitive when it comes to shortcuts, integration and it is visually appealing. However, I know it slows down the phone as it did that to my HTC Desire HD, especially when I updated to the latest sense. It's very laggy and the amount of animations are completely unnecessary. I don't need an animation of the page swivelling onto the screen when unlocking the phone. I'll miss the ease of access to certain things, but I want to get use to touchwiz.
There is an option to get Sense 3.0 or 3.5
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
wilson_sony said:
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
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LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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Zamboney said:
LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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Sometimes HD2 with sense onboard acts smoother than Note with TW.
So if you want Sense, HD2 is your perfect choice.
Its hardly possible to port Sense to Note or other non-HTC devices.
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Hello guys,
I am planing to get the HTC One and I d like to ask if the have switched back to the vertical scrolling in the app drawer like it used to be on sense 3.6
On the road using my HOX
It has indeed, with a twist, but yeah the scrolling takes a little time to readjust to.
Thanks a lot for the reply. I have read on a greek forum that there is an option to switch between vertical and horizonatl. I guess its not true, right?
I haven't seen it and not sure how it would fit with the clock at the top of the current one.
I think they are likely to have got the impression that custom ROMs will have this feature, certainly AOSP will but if someone can do something with Sense 5.0 remains to be seen.