Nexus One Android OS Memory Leak?? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I started off with around 280-290MB free on a fresh boot and after a while, the free memory drops to 200MB or so. Using taskkiller to kill all the processes yields the same result. I believe it's some sort of memory leak?

thats normal, i think, should be the cache usage, thats displayed there, if I know my linux'es. that memory will be freed automatically, when its needed.

Yep, FloOGB is right. Don't worry too much about the memory management, there's a lot going on under the hood and Android does a pretty good job. You shouldn't be alert when a lot of memory is used, in fact, you should be happy if most of the RAM is used.
I also suggest NOT using a task killer, you're battling Android's memory management by doing that and are likely to run into bugs because the auto-kill feature stopped a process that should have been kept running. E.g. someone had the problem that GMail wouldn't notify of incoming mail that has been pushed by the server. Turned out the task killer stopped a process required for the push mail system to work.

Sigh.
Everyone should post this video anytime someone complains about "free memory":
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI

muncheese said:
Sigh.
Everyone should post this video anytime someone complains about "free memory":
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
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Agreed! Thanks for the link... I didn't feel like searching for the last time it was posted.

May be you can try Memory Booster. This is a powerful mobile Memory & RAM boosting tool specially designed for Android smartphone users. It is a handy memory optimizer tool that will keep your Android smartphone running faster and efficiently. It increases your cell phone’s performance by making more memory available for both your applications and the mobile system.
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Please read the link above which explains Android's memory management. If you use applications like Memory Booster you will mess more with the phone then its good for.
We're not on Win95 anymore, guys, please!

A cache for each app installed gets created in dalvik cache partition & that takes the memory away !

I agree for the most part but I always keep a decent TK just for rogue apps. Everything stock/daily users I let android take care of anything new or memory intensive I kill like poorly designed apps or games... Works great... I love my n1
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ChongoDroid said:
I always keep a decent TK just for rogue apps. Everything stock/daily users I let android take care of anything new or memory intensive I kill like poorly designed apps or games.
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100% ack. some apps just need to be killed sometimes or some that stay resident and are not well written.
don't get me wrong, i'm not against taskkillers, if they are used in "manual" mode or to kill something specific. the problem are the "auto cleaners" that tell you that you need more free ram. the point is that you don't ideally less to no RAM should be free (not free in the sense of used for caching).
free ram is wasted ram.
my problem are the people who lure novice users to use these apps that may very well destabilize the phone.
@seventyfivein: why would one need to clear dalvik cache (if you don't update)? the cache has a reason to be there and the cache files will be recreated every time. if you remove an app so will be the cache file. i don't get the problem...

FloOGB said:
100% ack. some apps just need to be killed sometimes or some that stay resident and are not well written.
don't get me wrong, i'm not against taskkillers, if they are used in "manual" mode or to kill something specific. the problem are the "auto cleaners" that tell you that you need more free ram. the point is that you don't ideally less to no RAM should be free (not free in the sense of used for caching).
free ram is wasted ram.
my problem are the people who lure novice users to use these apps that may very well destabilize the phone.
@seventyfivein: why would one need to clear dalvik cache (if you don't update)? the cache has a reason to be there and the cache files will be recreated every time. if you remove an app so will be the cache file. i don't get the problem...
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I use cache cleaner every once in a while... It seems to keep things snappy. Kill all buttons are silly
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Try AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, it fine-tunes android system's inner memory manager routines (setting minfree values) resulting in a more smoothened UI experience without harming the system or running apps.
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[Q] my galaxy is very very annoyed

I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
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Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
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trying that now....for some reason kies seem to take forever to transfer video to pc. sigh....
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
Seifer1975 said:
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
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yes i have and am now trasnferring the video...but Kies is taking sooooo long to do so. Its a real pain. I hope it was lagging cause of the massive amounts of videos i have...we shall see. (if i can get the video transferred)
if you're rooted you can try adjusting the minfree settings using the minfree app
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I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
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This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
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it seems ok now....(well not really )...but the reason i dont want to apply a lag fix is cause of the "reported" internal sd card fails....and i dont have $ for a new phone if this one gets screwed over.
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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AllGamer said:
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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i have auto killer and i just use stock task manager...as alot of people have been saying other task managers are useless cause Android OS is designed to handle it....confused....
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
I wouldn't of used Kies to make the transfer, should've used a mass storage and transferred it using windows explorer. Also, I'd advocate against the task manager. I haven't used one on the SGS in about 2 months, back when I did I never let it run 24/7, sometimes I'd manually open it and kill almost all tasks. Task killers, such as ATK, will almost surely hurt your battery life if you let them run in the background, in fact, I'd even bet on it.
These days, I try to keep all my favorite programs in the background (unless they use CPU while idle, but even GTalk is great on battery life, as is LauncherPro and the widgets I have elected to keep). As long as you use the same 10-20 apps you should be fine, even if you use more you might be fine but not quite as good depending on how many apps you have loaded and storage space you use in total.
Since I highly doubt that the file size was huge and would overload the system, I wonder if a bug either sprang up and/or (maybe more likely) you created a hardware problem such as overheating your phone and processor and are now having issues. If nothing else works, try to back up all your apps and info to an SD card and then do a factory reset. If your problems continue then it's hardware.
Now I dont know whether to.keep the task apps or not lol...2 different opinions here...
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The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
Darkstriker said:
The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
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So if i apply a lag fix...either OCLF or Voodoo...you can Guarantee i wont see a internal sd failure?...cause i remember All Gamer talking about how he wanted to fix the lag fix to write onto sd card or something like that...(dont quote me) its 100% safe?
AllGamer said:
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
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Don't many developers etc say not to run task killers? They actually cause more drain on the phone and battery?
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely.
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i trust the hard fact results of the good it is doing in my phone, rather than some biased believes that just lags the phone if not actioned upon.
I dont know if I would call advice from well known developers as biased. Especially considering several others have shared this setiment. But what ever floats your boat. You are some what of a mr know it all here...
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think about it logically, you do nothing to the phone and it lags like hell
or you can install legit software which easily lets you choose what to run and what not to run
result: system is squeaky clean and snappy fast
vs.
do nothing: system lags like hell, come to the forum complain the phone lags and claim other people are right we should do nothing and have an unusable phone.
Well the lag on my phone is minimal, it actually performs quite well. My phone died without any lag fixes etc, so I am not putting any of that on now. My problem is GPS is useless and the random shutdowns.

Custom 2.2.2

Took a break from porting 2.3 and threw together this themed 2.2.2
Its Gingerbread themed, a few graphical elements are missing though.
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Install through ClockworkMod
Wipe first in CWM ONLY, user data, and cache.
Download
http://www.multiupload.com/WSDGWB5XM1
Install another launcher, our display isn't good enough for the default.
Its late, I have to get some sleep for work in the morning. Will post credits, and detailed instructions later.
Also, Its looking like a ghost town in here, we need more roms. I can help those interested in compiling. You can use the Android Kitchen to get started.
Thanks for your contribution
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Seems like screen resolution is screwed up a little in wallpapers
Edit: in your stock launcher is the only place I see size issues but I am loving this rom running very smooth
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bout to give this a go
Do you have any screens to share?
Does this have djSteve's tweaks?
^ Posted a pic, and what tweaks?
Will post new rom with full info this weekend. Lots of new tweaks, additions, and subtractions.
Stay tuned.
Thank you streaker!
I agree on the lack of ROMs. I'm going to start to try to develop something simple (I'm self-teaching Java and Linux; what better way to learn than to tweak?).
I'll be downloading the Kitchen and playing with it in a couple of days's time, if not sooner. Since you offered, I'll ask for help when I get stuck!
Are you still working on a 2.3 ROM? Can a n008 offer any assistance? I really want to get my feet wet in development (apps or ROMs), so if I can be at all useful I will be.
vetvito said:
Took a break from porting 2.3 and threw together this themed 2.2.2
Its Gingerbread themed, a few graphical elements are missing though.
Install through ClockworkMod
Wipe first in CWM ONLY, user data, and cache.
Download
http://www.multiupload.com/WSDGWB5XM1
Install another launcher, our display isn't good enough for the default.
Its late, I have to get some sleep for work in the morning. Will post credits, and detailed instructions later.
Also, Its looking like a ghost town in here, we need more roms. I can help those interested in compiling. You can use the Android Kitchen to get started.
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idk if you are doing this, but it won't hurt to repeat it
make sure you wipe data/cache before you capture the cmw image this way you can avoid some issues for people flashing
I'll be flashing this in a sec, here. Gotta love more Streak 7 devs!
Did you make this in ROM Kitchen? If so, how did you go about it? I couldn't get ROM Kitchen to work on my S7.
Great to see some more developers! I'll definitely give this a go.
So I loaded it up and slapped on Zeam launcher; I have to say, it's pretty nice. This is basically vanilla, stock 2.2.2 with the bloat removed and a black bar (with some Gingerbread theme touches here and there). This is a great alternative to stock, and seems to run everything really smoothly. Nice mod!
Looking forward to the weekend version!
But quick question, if i go about flashing this, while in DJs HS7, do i have to return back to the stock then flash cwm then flash the rom?
RavenSEAL said:
Looking forward to the weekend version!
But quick question, if i go about flashing this, while in DJs HS7, do i have to return back to the stock then flash cwm then flash the rom?
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Yes, you do. Unfortunately, there's not CWR for HC, yet (and, even if there were, I don't know that it would allow flashing FroYo ROMs).
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Yes, you do. Unfortunately, there's not CWR for HC, yet (and, even if there were, I don't know that it would allow flashing FroYo ROMs).
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Figured :S
I don't wanna risk destroying my internal memory
Installed and working perfectly. Im using vtl launcher. Very fast and works well!!! Thanks much and im looking forward to future releases.
Suggestions :
1) maybe a battery icon w / percentage
2) go launcher or vtl launcher
3) any cooked in file explorer
4) a modified wpa supplicant file to allow adhoc tethering
4) maybe a task killer. Im using autokiller memory optimizer and free mem stays near 150
Great work!!
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Installed and working perfectly. Im using vtl launcher. Very fast and works well!!! Thanks much and im looking forward to future releases.
Suggestions :
1) maybe a battery icon w / percentage
2) go launcher or vtl launcher
3) any cooked in file explorer
4) a modified wpa supplicant file to allow adhoc tethering
4) maybe a task killer. Im using autokiller memory optimizer and free mem stays near 150
Great work!!
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FroYo has very good, built in task management. Task killers generally hurt performance and battery life. Android isn't Windows; it's Linux. Having little free memory isn't a bad thing.
Z4nd4r said:
FroYo has very good, built in task management. Task killers generally hurt performance and battery life. Android isn't Windows; it's Linux. Having little free memory isn't a bad thing.
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Hence why I said "maybe " a task killer. Mine without one hits that critical 40 - 50 mb ram level where things start to lag (I have a ton of apps installed which like to run as a background service even though I only use them once or twice a week) . Also if you researched.... most task killers do NOT REPLACE stock task management....they merely lower or raise values already in place. This means closing idle processes a little faster than default ( if I don't use an application in 12 hrs....do I really need it running in the background??????) Also, you can set limits on oom values for specific tasks so they have a lower / higher priority. There are absolutely advantages to task managers......
One good example...... without it, when my memory ran in the critical 40 mb range, ebuddy services would shut off.....which is one app I WANT running 24/7. Using a task manager I can set its oom value to -17mb which virtually keeps it alive even if the system goes into swap. Also another I change values on is gmail so it can background sync and I don't worry about it closing syncing services.
Anyway, I hope that clears some things up for you if you ran as many apps as I do, and don't have a completely fresh installed os, they are absolutely helpful I know that free ram ia wasted ram ....but that only holds true until you hit the levels at which the system needs to operate properly. Don't forget....you DO need SOME ram for cache / swap!!! ( 70-100mb free keeps things perfectly smooth)
Also, an fyi for you. I know android isn't windows. I am linux guy myself and have compiled many things from source. While I may not be a GURU, im no where near a novice. I understand how the OS works. Try running ubuntu 11 on 64 -128 mb ram and tell me how free ram isn't important.
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Hence why I said "maybe " a task killer. Mine without one hits that critical 40 - 50 mb ram level where things start to lag (I have a ton of apps installed which like to run as a background service even though I only use them once or twice a week) . Also if you researched.... most task killers do NOT REPLACE stock task management....they merely lower or raise values already in place. This means closing idle processes a little faster than default ( if I don't use an application in 12 hrs....do I really need it running in the background??????) Also, you can set limits on oom values for specific tasks so they have a lower / higher priority. There are absolutely advantages to task managers......
One good example...... without it, when my memory ran in the critical 40 mb range, ebuddy services would shut off.....which is one app I WANT running 24/7. Using a task manager I can set its oom value to -17mb which virtually keeps it alive even if the system goes into swap. Also another I change values on is gmail so it can background sync and I don't worry about it closing syncing services.
Anyway, I hope that clears some things up for you if you ran as many apps as I do, and don't have a completely fresh installed os, they are absolutely helpful I know that free ram ia wasted ram ....but that only holds true until you hit the levels at which the system needs to operate properly. Don't forget....you DO need SOME ram for cache / swap!!! ( 70-100mb free keeps things perfectly smooth)
Also, an fyi for you. I know android isn't windows. I am linux guy myself and have compiled many things from source. While I may not be a GURU, im no where near a novice. I understand how the OS works. Try running ubuntu 11 on 64 -128 mb ram and tell me how free ram isn't important.
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LOLZ, ubuntu?
Vanilla linux can run fine on 64mb of ram
Sure it can...but not with a current version of gnome or kde maybe using xfce or window maker. Those don't need much resource. I stated ubuntu due to its popularity lol
Was just making a point on the necessity of SOME free ram
Side note.... did you see ubuntu is functional on the streak 7 ???? Awesome!! I can't wait until it is completely ready to go. I've been experimenting trying to get any desktop session up and running but no good so far It wont be long though!!!

About the GS6 memory problems (Let's Discuss)

By now many of you might've seen this or a similar article already: SamMobile - Poor RAM management affecting the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge
Disabled apps list in Post #9
From my understanding, the OS is over-aggressively causing apps to close in order to retain some sort of free amount of RAM. Could be a memory leak caused by Lollipop or something else, not sure. And just like the article OP said, unused RAM is wasted RAM on Android because it's Linux. Not Windows. So I'm failing to see the issue.
Have you guys been seeing a direct correlation between low amounts of current RAM and Android closing background apps more aggressively over time?
Have your phones been getting slower?
I'm not saying I found a solution but since running the Debloater tool using my own customized set of "disabled" apps, I have managed to free up about 400-500mb of RAM on average. Again the goal of Android isn't to consistently have tons of free RAM and close all the apps because Android is not Windows. But we have been seeing 3GB of RAM getting easily filled up even just after a reboot (well I have). Our phones shouldn't be using the full 3GB of RAM just after boot even with Touchwiz (especially after Samsung's quest to reduce the bloatedness of Touchwiz).
Those more knowledgeable than I please comment!
Anyway, here is my current RAM usage screenshot after disabling those apps I told you about. Not too shabby and I have noticed a bit zippier speeds, especially from screen off to launcher using the fingerprint lock.
This is the built in Touchwiz "RAM booster" that I accidentally found.
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What apps did you disable, do you have a list handy
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I will post the modified list of apps to use with that debloater tool when I get some time to re-review it. Originally I used someone elses list but quickly found out that they basically ripped apart the OS with actually causing any FC's. But they also left out important things like the Play Store and others. I don't want to do that to you guys or myself again.
About 800mb free at the moment. I do notice that it spikes upon wake (from about 800 free to 500 free) but quickly resets back near 800. I don't aggressively close apps or anything else like that, so this is after a whole day of video playback, play music, browsing, and phone/text.
So far I haven't noticed any significant memory leak, or at least one that's affecting performance.
I've seem the ram booster somewhere, but can't find it now. Where did you find it.
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mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.
How do we get the app sammobile has?
Verizon didnt give it to us
fletch33 said:
mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.
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That's good, so that means it isn't everyone. Or at least you haven't done enough on the phone to cause it to basically consume all of the RAM. I know on my white 32gb Edge that I would often only have 200mb free. But since I exchanged that for my 64gb sapphire things have been better. Not sure why.
Either way I'm going to compile the the list from 119 into much less, maybe 70-80, momentarily. Just as to help debloat.
Here's a better list of apps that can be disabled. I added back in several apps that the majority of people would normally use. There may be some that you wouldn't personally use, but just keep in mind some people do. This isn't the ultimate debloat by any means but it does strip out a lot of stuff while leaving the good stuff in tact. Yes there are a couple Verizon things that I left out because some people do actually want to see their account on their phone, etc.
I hope this helps.
In the program, right click on "read device packages" and go to import and import this text file. MAKE SURE TO UNCHECK ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL APPS OR THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET DISABLED. They will be listed as "base.apk" files.
How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...
mdonnelly1127 said:
How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...
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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.
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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.
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Good find. I just set the back button up to "kill app" with a single tap. It will bring up the RAM booster if I long press the back button in the launcher also.
One of the most common signs is memory loss, especially forgetting recently learned information. But i don't face this problem yet.
Just read about an update pushing out to EU S6/Edge devices that (reportedly) fix the memory leak issues. No other word on any other changes, but it's only about 140mb so there can't be that many changes.
Never been crazy about positing external links here, so if you're interested in reading about it just Google it.

Severe memory leak.

I've noticed there is a memory leak after using the device for long periods of time, it's becoming a bit slow and closes a lot of apps that it shouldn't.
Also, opening the camera and using it a little, makes all apps to be reloaded.
I honestly don't feel this has 6 gb of ram, Huawei need to solve those issues, let's make them aware
Derpling said:
I've noticed there is a memory leak after using the device for long periods of time, it's becoming a bit slow and closes a lot of apps that it shouldn't.
Also, opening the camera and using it a little, makes all apps to be reloaded.
I honestly don't feel this has 6 gb of ram, Huawei need to solve those issues, let's make them aware
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I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
greyhulk said:
I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
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It's not a memory leak.... The data collection buffer gets full, and a reboot resets this. China intelligence FTW.
....... JK
I've noticed that the camera and 3D live maker, kills all apps after 2 minutes of using those.
I remember the gs7e has done the same but camon, it's annoying that I'll open the camera, and everything will be reloaded.
Also besides Hauwei, Google made some improvements to the memory management in Android Pie, that could be also one of the reasons why.
I get non of this and the lack of replies proves the fact it doesn't exist. I have used mine since I received it with zero slow down.
The apps closing is because of the management of apps in the background. You can set the apps manually so they can run in the background.
This is done by "AI" so if you manage them manually you set them to run in the background and they won't get killed.
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Derpling said:
I've noticed that the camera and 3D live maker, kills all apps after 2 minutes of using those.
I remember the gs7e has done the same but camon, it's annoying that I'll open the camera, and everything will be reloaded.
Also besides Hauwei, Google made some improvements to the memory management in Android Pie, that could be also one of the reasons why.
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Your phone is faulty or you're trolling. The pixel 3 is crap, what you're describing here doesn't exist!
Having the same issue but I don't think it's a memory leak. Just Huawei agressive style of handling ram/apps.
Phone doesn't like anything not installed by defualt.
the memory management is horrifically aggressive. It'll be the thing that makes me get rid of it if I cant sort it out. I'm assuming this has happened with one of the updates as I've watched youtube videos of this phone being amazing on the speed tests and keeping apps in memory. Assume this was either on a pre-release ROM or an early version that reviewers are most likely to use.
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My phone wont even do play-store automatic updates overnight while charging (like EVERY other phone i've ever had has been able to do).
Jonathan-H said:
I get non of this and the lack of replies proves the fact it doesn't exist. I have used mine since I received it with zero slow down.
The apps closing is because of the management of apps in the background. You can set the apps manually so they can run in the background.
This is done by "AI" so if you manage them manually you set them to run in the background and they won't get killed.
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Your phone is faulty or you're trolling. The pixel 3 is crap, what you're describing here doesn't exist!
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You're the only one trolling here. Are you really such a hardcore fanboy that you're incapable of acknowledging that it could be a different software build? Chinese version vs International? I just got an update on my International model yesterday which may or may not have resolved this. It doesn't mean it wasn't a real issue. I have owned just about every major smartphone since the original iPhone, including all of the Mate phones and I also test them for a living. Some of us are actually speaking from experience, not bias.
Issue is there, but using open camera doesn't kill tasks compared to stock app, so it's hauwei aggressive memory management again.
Not noticed anything here, I sometimes have quite a heavy usage, multiple apps. No unintended closed apps. Phone is always very fast. Looking into the phone manager from time to time there's always 95% free.
Sent from my HUAWEI LYA-L09 using XDA Labs
I'm a one app at once guy... so no problem for me, i always close the app after i use it
The memory management on this phone is definitely rather strange. Yes, you can force specific apps to stay prioritized in the background, but it doesn't seem like there are any benefits to the hyper-aggressive method Huawei employs. What I find irritating isn't the way resident apps are juggled, but the way the app you are using acts like it is being starved of ram all the time. I need to try out a bunch of different browsers, so far the few I have been using feel like I am running a 2015 build of Chrome on a Windows machine with 256 Meg of Ram.
Try removing the stock launcher, and you will see a big difference m
Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk
So the stock launcher is the culprit? Any other bloatware that we can remove??
greyhulk said:
I'm not sure why no on is replying to you. I have the Mate 20 X and I noticed this as well. All of my apps were refreshing the other day. My Google Podcast app even closed while I was doing something else. And I couldn't even jump back and forth between two apps without them refreshing. Then I started getting a camera error and it wouldn't go away until I rebooted. After rebooting, everything was fine. Rinse and repeat. This has happened to me several times. While it's nice to know that a reboot fixes it, it's a pretty bad memory leak. I have the International model, so I don't see an update coming any time soon.
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I have the exact same problem on my Mate 20 Pro.
Works great after reboot but after using it I sometimes can't even go to switch app mode and return to app without it reloading. Since it is coming with time used I also think it is a memory mangement problem.
I am on EMUI 9.0.0.153
Removing Huawei launcher via ADB, seems to fix some of it, but it's annoying nonetheless
I have the same issue. After using the device for some time, from Developer Options > Running Services, the System portion consumes most of the memory, leaving very little left for cached processes.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
After a reboot, the System memory usages goes down to normal, until normal usage causes it to build up again until another reboot is required.
It definitely looks like some kind of memory leak.
Same issue here. I wish there was a way to schedule a restart overnight.
giorgoxxi said:
Same issue here. I wish there was a way to schedule a restart overnight.
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There is, go to smart assistance then scheduled power on/off...
Derpling said:
There is, go to smart assistance then scheduled power on/off...
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Great thanks! I've now set it to restart every Monday overnight... Let's see how that goes

"Other" storage problem

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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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I already do a factory data for like five times for each week since i bought this phone, the other on storage keeps filing up and i cant find the reasons why, i disabled auto update for system apps and software update as well as on playstore. But still keeps increasing day by day. Any solutions?
Question firmware version used...and phone model
Under developer mode..enable "CPU usage"
See..what app is busy doing stuff
or
install Catlog from f-droid see what's running and see error log
or
Run the antivirus app? or update firmware to latest ?
just..some thoughts
interesting issue..
Its a xiaomi redmi 9 global version 4/64 running the lates miui 12.0.3
Im sorry.im new to this but i cant find cpu usage on developers option. I also installed catlog but i dont know how to use it.and which anti virus are you refering to?also I already installed the latest firmware
Update
perhaps:
Google play/installed apps/review free space
or
DiskUsage | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
© 2010-2021 F-Droid Limited and Contributors
www.f-droid.org
or
Storage Analyzer & Disk Usage – Apps on Google Play
Deep scanning device storage analyzer and disk cleaner in your hands
play.google.com
Still cant detect anything with that. It only tells me how much storage i use but only shows the same data i can see on my file managaer
File manager
internal storage
show hidden files
miui
gallery
cloud
trashbin
delete all the files inside the trashbin.
hope it will help you.
I have the same problem, i tried factory reset how many times, hard reset 2x, the problem still exist. Waiting for firmware update but it takes time and the storage is full again while waiting. Any suggestions friends?
I wonder if the app MIUIREX can help. Any idea who already used this app??
Hi all,
my two cents here. It seems that somehow when info is deleted ends in a kind of partition that the cell can't reach or show. I've tried all the storage cleaning apps I could find to no avail.
When plugging to a PC it doesn't show the big files either. In fact, when you look at it as a drive connected to PC it seems to be full; however if you select the contents there's little occupation.
I've also promoted to miui 12 but the issue persists. I've noticed as well that it takes longer to fill when there's no SIM card inserted. It takes a couple of days instead of hours to fill the Other Files storage.
My only other option now is to try and root it with Magisk and try a custom ROM, but never done that before and I don't want to brick it if there's any other option.
PS - there are some other entries for this same problem in mi.com and other pages for this and other xiaomi models and all of them seem to be unfixed, so I wonder if it could be a HW problem instead.
I've had a bit of a time trifling with this device, it's a great bit of kit and a sweet deal. I had the same/similar issue and found that the MIUI local backups never expired. I found a long list of historic backups in the MIUI settings, you can delete them there or just delete MIUI>backups in File Manager. Then perhaps turn off local backups.
Hopefully this is the same for you, holla back.
Thanks for the hint, but no luck either. There's nothing, even toggling on the "hidden files" option, that takes a big amount of space in my device.
Probably the matter is exactly that; the device is not deleting backups but the real issue seems to be that I'm not able to locate them (probably not even see them).
Same problem here; different phone (Note 10) but same problem with MIUI12. Other files category increases by about 2GB/day, even while hardly using the phone. This issue has been reported all over the web, but Xiaomi seems reluctant to admit they have such a basic file operation issue:
Other Files Under Storage Space Keeps Increasing After MIUI 12 Update
To access other files under storage space, head over to settings>>my device>>storage. Compare your details with the pictures above and see if you're also affected.
adimorahblog.com
https://c.mi.com/thread-3370135-1-0.html?t=1602138830713
Invalid - "Other files" filling up my phone very rapidly
In the past 2 months or so I have had this issues where the 64G of my xiaomi mi 8 is being bloated by "other files". They appear predominantly when I delete large video files, so I strongly suspect there is a problem in the MIUI 12 with deleting files properly. At some point my phone becomes 99%...
xiaomi.eu
"Other" storage problem
I already do a factory data for like five times for each week since i bought this phone, the other on storage keeps filing up and i cant find the reasons why, i disabled auto update for system apps and software update as well as on playstore. But...
forum.xda-developers.com
https://www.la-besace.fr/4rtyys/fc237e-miui-12-bug
https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3678151&page=1&extra=#pid19385517
Hi there. I have the same issue since last month. I bought the phone last year on May and the problem just came last month. The "Other Files" increased by 3 - 4 GB per day without any reasons. After doing factory reset, my phone memory got full after 1 week (64GB). I went to Xiaomi Service Center. They format the memory and install older version of the OS. However, it didn't help. My phone memory got full after 2 weeks. I went back to the service center, and they had no idea too. Then they replaced the motherboard. Technically speaking, my phone is new, with the new IMEI number. But surprisingly, my memory got full again after 2 weeks! Fortunately, my phone is still under warranty. I insist to get new phone but the procedure is not that easy. I'm requested to go back to service center next week. Hopefully there will be a good news.
Thanks @pangayoman please let us know how you go!
Factory reset seems the only solution here too (Note 10 lite) but over time the other files still increase. Strangely enough all the cleaning and storage analyzer tools don't see the other files at all and can't remove any of it....
Did anyone try a custom rom, like crDroid? That may rule out hardware issues....
I haven't tried a custom ROM yet, as I never did it before, but I think it's time to try it now. Otherwise I have a brick as I can't use the apps I need even if I spend more time installing than using them.
Can someone help me?? Like CCleaner shows that my apps occupied 3+gb,but system shows that my apps occupied 8gb...how can I get access to system storage (apps & apps data)?? (like I can't even click it and find out what takes so much memory)
Licurus said:
Can someone help me?? Like CCleaner shows that my apps occupied 3+gb,but system shows that my apps occupied 8gb...how can I get access to system storage (apps & apps data)?? (like I can't even click it and find out what takes so much memory)
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I have my system in a different language, so the translation might be inaccurate, but it should be something like this: settings--> about my phone --> tap on storage --> Tap on Apps & Data. That should do the trick. The problem discussed here is slightly different, though.
Install 12.0.3 indonesia stable . xiaomi solve this problem in this rom

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