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[Q] my galaxy is very very annoyed

I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.

Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.

sean2476 said:
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
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trying that now....for some reason kies seem to take forever to transfer video to pc. sigh....

Have u tried rebooting ur phone?

Seifer1975 said:
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
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yes i have and am now trasnferring the video...but Kies is taking sooooo long to do so. Its a real pain. I hope it was lagging cause of the massive amounts of videos i have...we shall see. (if i can get the video transferred)

if you're rooted you can try adjusting the minfree settings using the minfree app

jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.

cheeshun said:
This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
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it seems ok now....(well not really )...but the reason i dont want to apply a lag fix is cause of the "reported" internal sd card fails....and i dont have $ for a new phone if this one gets screwed over.

install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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AllGamer said:
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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i have auto killer and i just use stock task manager...as alot of people have been saying other task managers are useless cause Android OS is designed to handle it....confused....

the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own

I wouldn't of used Kies to make the transfer, should've used a mass storage and transferred it using windows explorer. Also, I'd advocate against the task manager. I haven't used one on the SGS in about 2 months, back when I did I never let it run 24/7, sometimes I'd manually open it and kill almost all tasks. Task killers, such as ATK, will almost surely hurt your battery life if you let them run in the background, in fact, I'd even bet on it.
These days, I try to keep all my favorite programs in the background (unless they use CPU while idle, but even GTalk is great on battery life, as is LauncherPro and the widgets I have elected to keep). As long as you use the same 10-20 apps you should be fine, even if you use more you might be fine but not quite as good depending on how many apps you have loaded and storage space you use in total.
Since I highly doubt that the file size was huge and would overload the system, I wonder if a bug either sprang up and/or (maybe more likely) you created a hardware problem such as overheating your phone and processor and are now having issues. If nothing else works, try to back up all your apps and info to an SD card and then do a factory reset. If your problems continue then it's hardware.

Now I dont know whether to.keep the task apps or not lol...2 different opinions here...
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The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).

Darkstriker said:
The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
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So if i apply a lag fix...either OCLF or Voodoo...you can Guarantee i wont see a internal sd failure?...cause i remember All Gamer talking about how he wanted to fix the lag fix to write onto sd card or something like that...(dont quote me) its 100% safe?

AllGamer said:
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
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Don't many developers etc say not to run task killers? They actually cause more drain on the phone and battery?
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely.
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i trust the hard fact results of the good it is doing in my phone, rather than some biased believes that just lags the phone if not actioned upon.

I dont know if I would call advice from well known developers as biased. Especially considering several others have shared this setiment. But what ever floats your boat. You are some what of a mr know it all here...
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think about it logically, you do nothing to the phone and it lags like hell
or you can install legit software which easily lets you choose what to run and what not to run
result: system is squeaky clean and snappy fast
vs.
do nothing: system lags like hell, come to the forum complain the phone lags and claim other people are right we should do nothing and have an unusable phone.

Well the lag on my phone is minimal, it actually performs quite well. My phone died without any lag fixes etc, so I am not putting any of that on now. My problem is GPS is useless and the random shutdowns.

[Q] ROMs, kernels and why.

I have searched for this sort of thread for a while. Though I've only been changing my phone around for a couple months(Rooted & ROM changes) It's clear that every developer/group feels there's is best. While I find that different ROMs have great features, it would appear that each and every one has it's flaws. I also find that a person can literally search for hours on how to install, manipulate, customize and BRICK a phone. As a "Senior Member" I still find myself lost. Due to recommendations, I've purchased more then my share of "helpful apps". I hope that the most "Senior Members" (w/ extreme, non bias, knowledge) can help remedy a few staples for all users.
A comparative, most stable and complete ROM list per phone (updated frequently)
What do I really need? I don't know. I have purchased Root Manager, Root explorer, Rom manager, Titanium Backup, Drop Box the list goes on. To date I'm not 90% sure what any of these do, nor how they work. Ex. I've backed up my ROMs with Titanium Backup but I've also backed them up with Rom manager. I've changed ROMs and couldn't figure out how to reinstall apps, settings etc. using either one of these. You can find yourself changing a ROM and taking 2 - 3 hr's reinstalling apps, themes and settings.
Kernels! there 30 times as many of these as there are ROMs. There should be some real understanding of these. It would appear that some kernels will change the look of the ROM or is it the theme, it changes? Neither? so why do I need them, what really are there function?
There are some brilliant minds at work here. Hopefully some of them can pitch in and offer answers to some basic "need to knows" for many.
Thank you all for the work that you do

I'm definitely an enormous Noob (capital N!) but by now I can flash ROMs fairly quickly and reinstall my apps in a few seconds with TiBu. I still do agree with you that it's a bit hard to take in *everything*. Something I've been wondering since I began flashing (ROMs, not anything indecent) is:
1. KERNELS. What the hell is their function exactly? I know their compatibility with the custom ROM depends on...which Captivate model the ROM is based on, I think. But how does one know or how can one tell which is compatible to which?
2. Modem. ?! How do I flash this? Why do I need to flash this?
3. Probably O/T but what the heck is ROM Kitchen?
4. What is the other way of flashing without using ODIN?
Knowing that would set me a little further from Noobers State, at least.

Lancered said:
I'm definitely an enormous Noob (capital N!) but by now I can flash ROMs fairly quickly and reinstall my apps in a few seconds with TiBu. I still do agree with you that it's a bit hard to take in *everything*. Something I've been wondering since I began flashing (ROMs, not anything indecent) is:
1. KERNELS. What the hell is their function exactly? I know their compatibility with the custom ROM depends on...which Captivate model the ROM is based on, I think. But how does one know or how can one tell which is compatible to which?
2. Modem. ?! How do I flash this? Why do I need to flash this?
3. Probably O/T but what the heck is ROM Kitchen?
4. What is the other way of flashing without using ODIN?
Knowing that would set me a little further from Noobers State, at least.
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I'm not an expert but this is my understanding.
1. Kernel: Set of controls that lets the software interact with the hardware of the phone. Typically affects GPS, battery, bluetooth, wifi, display, etc.
2. Modem: How your phone connects to and transmits voice/data/everything.
3. ROM kitchen is a tool to help build ROM.
4. You can flash new ROMs through ClockWorkMod Recovery. You choose to install new software from zip on sd card. It lets you install ROMs, Kernels, & modems, provided they have been setup to work with CWM.
Hope that helps answer some things.

Lancered said:
I'm definitely an enormous Noob (capital N!) but by now I can flash ROMs fairly quickly and reinstall my apps in a few seconds with TiBu. I still do agree with you that it's a bit hard to take in *everything*. Something I've been wondering since I began flashing (ROMs, not anything indecent) is:
1. KERNELS. What the hell is their function exactly? I know their compatibility with the custom ROM depends on...which Captivate model the ROM is based on, I think. But how does one know or how can one tell which is compatible to which?
2. Modem. ?! How do I flash this? Why do I need to flash this?
3. Probably O/T but what the heck is ROM Kitchen?
4. What is the other way of flashing without using ODIN?
Knowing that would set me a little further from Noobers State, at least.
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Three more excellent questions, all of which for nubies and Seniors (without tech understanding) need to know.

trekie86 said:
1. Kernel: Set of controls that lets the software interact with the hardware of the phone. Typically affects GPS, battery, bluetooth, wifi, display, etc.
2. Modem: How your phone connects to and transmits voice/data/everything.
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Good info but it doesn't help explain why there are so many of each. How is one to know what should be installed.

Different kernels allocate the phones resources in different ways.
For example sucker punch Or paragon allows the user to over clock the processor, as well as under volt. Both can be used to speed the phone up or reduce battery use.
Harcore speed mode tweaks brigtness settings, uses some tweaks to improve performance, and changes default from 250hz to 500hz
I guess it is like saying different kernels are like tuning your car up in different ways with different performance goals.
Modems performance appear to vary based off of your location. Only way to know what is best is to try them.

I do understand many are new to this (even I was new at some point of time). But there is one thing I would like to bring up in this thread.
A simple Google search would tell what the basic functionality of a kernel is. Likewise for most of things asked here.
Be patient, there are lots of people here who would guide/help u. Don't sound impatient nor show ur frustration here. This is a forum created by enthusiastic users, not by employees who are paid to service people.
1. Kernel:
Kernel is the heart of the system that keeps the phone running. U can consider the core machine level interacting portion of OS that translates all instructions to a format that the CPU can understand.It has complete control over everything that occurs in the system. The kernel provides basic services for all other parts of the operating system, typically including memory management, process management, file management and I/O (input/output) management.
Every kernel thread here has an OP where it tells what version it is based off, its features, etc.
Best way to know which is best for u: try it out. What's good for me may not be good for u.
2. Modem:
How do I flash this? : Modem thread is a sticky on development forum, and has details how to flash too.
Why do I need to flash this?: This is the core component needed to access the phone spectrum/signals.
3. Probably O/T but what the heck is ROM Kitchen?: OP says it all. This is one place where u can create a ROM by picking features/apps of the provided list. More for creating ur own custom ROM.
4. What is the other way of flashing without using ODIN? Check the first sticky thread in QA section "FOR NEW CAPTIVATE USERS - READ HERE FIRST - FAQs | HELPFUL LINKS"

So here's my .02 cents coming from a software engineer perceptive...
The kernel... It's the core/kernel of an operating system. It's main functions (as stated above) are to interact with the hardware a.k.a. Device Drivers, to manage resources (things like memory management and processor time sharing a.k.a. multi-tasking), service interrupt requests, network services and the like. It also provides a System Call Interface (API) to the user space (apps running on the machine) so the apps can use system resources.
Now the why so many part... First of all in general there are MANY options available when compiling (building) the kernel. Things like CPU schedulers, file system support, system type support (in the captivates case ARM), etc. etc. etc. So there are many different ways to configure the kernel and that gives many options to "test" and see which might work better or not. Some of them are dead giveaways like compiling the kernel for MIPS and trying to run it on the captivate won't work but some are "tweaks" that may help a little or a lot, like CPU management options.
Second part of the why so many is the code. Again as mentioned above things like changing code to make the colors of the display more or less sharp (display device driver), make the file system faster (voodoo lag fix) or overclocking the processor, and different "modem" tweaks are all "enhancements" that people have made to the original Linux kernel source. So those things "creep" into existence over time, since there are many people working on them, and you see different versions of the Kernel from that as well.
Anyone that plays music can relate to the options available in that there are only 12 notes on a guitar fret board but millions (or more) ways to put them together to play music. There are certain things that have to be present in the Kernel (notes) but writing code to enhance them and/or combining options at compile time is much broader (music).
ROM. Well IMO this one has a bad nomenclature. ROM is actually Random Access Memory and we flash an image to the "ROM" (which it really isn't but I'll leave that one alone). The "ROM" in this case is the operating system (a version of embedded Linux), which is the basic software needed to run and admin the phone, things like the Kernel, bootloader, device drivers, and file system plus any user apps like the phone dialer, launcher, etc. that are included in the ROM. As you can imagine the possibilities of customization are almost endless when it comes to the ROM. Different kernels, different drivers, different apps and many combinations of those. Thus we see all the different "ROM"s for the captivate with all the different options and unfortunately problems as well.
The modem is actually part of the kernel. It's the device driver for the phone hardware of the captivate. Being that it's part of the kernel it "works with" other code that's elsewhere in the kernel and ROM that is "tweaked" for a particular phone in this case. So when you see "use an i9000 modem with an i9000 kernel" it's because the code in the modem is written to work with the other code in the kernel. It doesn't necessarily mean it will brick the phone and/or not work but it quite often means it won't work the best if it's not "matched".
An example of the why so many here might be (and I'm just using this as a random example not a real world example) in the code below (which is the Samsung modem code in the SuckerPunch source in this case) notice the comment there about "no spec" and having to confirm how much time is needed to initialize. That may be an example where someone could play with those timings and get better performance out of the modem...
static void msm_reset(struct modemctl *mc)
{
<sniped code for briefness here>
gpio_set_value(mc->gpio_cp_reset, 0);
msleep(500); /* no spec, confirm later exactly how much time
needed to initialize CP with RESET_PMU_N */
gpio_set_value(mc->gpio_cp_reset, 1);
msleep(40); /* > 37.2 + 2 msec */
gpio_set_value(mc->gpio_phone_on, 0);
gpio_set_value(mc->gpio_cp_reset, 0);
}
So that's one example of how you might get another modem version if someone played with that code and saw better performance.
I don't know if that all helps or muddies the water, but again it's just an old software engineer's .02 cents.

mxracer101 said:
So here's my .02 cents coming from a software engineer perceptive...
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I don't know if that all helps or muddies the water, but again it's just an old software engineer's .02 cents.
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good work!

I do understand many are new to this (even I was new at some point of time). But there is one thing I would like to bring up in this thread.
A simple Google search would tell what the basic functionality of a kernel is. Likewise for most of things asked here.
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For those seeking help, looking on XDA this is the #1 source for this information. Most other forums refer to XDA. So you should be in good hands
Be patient, there are lots of people here who would guide/help u. Don't sound impatient nor show ur frustration here. This is a forum created by enthusiastic users, not by employees who are paid to service people.
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MOST crucial to understand this. PLEASE don't re-ask a question in several different locations. In most cases a question will be answered in a short time.
1. Kernel:
Kernel is the heart of the system that keeps the phone running. U can consider the core machine level interacting portion of OS that translates all instructions to a format that the CPU can understand.It has complete control over everything that occurs in the system. The kernel provides basic services for all other parts of the operating system, typically including memory management, process management, file management and I/O (input/output) management.
Every kernel thread here has an OP where it tells what version it is based off, its features, etc.
Best way to know which is best for u: try it out. What's good for me may not be good for u.
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This is an area I see more questions about, then I do ROMs. Be awre that all ROMs have built in kernels, it's a good idea to let the intended kernel do it's thing. This is a fine tweaking operation, learn what one does for each ROM. Don't feel you need to change it, because it's being talked about in a ROM post.
HTML:
2. Modem:
How do I flash this? : Modem thread is a sticky on development forum, and has details how to flash too. Why do I need to flash this?: This is the core component needed to access the phone spectrum/signals.
^^^^SEE ABOVE^^^^ Dito

kernels; the function has been explained so i wont go there. there are kernel settings that cant be changed once compiled that effect performance and battery life, often making one better hurts the other, kernel hz will affect the snappiness, some kernel devs like to put out 2 or more versions depending on the users preference. also there have been many mods made for the i9000, i9000 devs typically dont make ports for the other phones so the code is made available for other devs to include in there own kernels. part of the reason for soo many is that things are constantly developing but some people like what has been out there for a while. there are also a number of compiling tweeks that one developer or another may prefer.
some kernels have stock recovery 2e or 3e, some have cwm recovery some have steam recovery, some have a modded cwm recovery. cwm recovery and steam give you access to the rom backups (nandroid) and some other features, steam has a touch screen interface but the modded cwm versions have similar functionality with a hardware button interface.
lagfixes; lagfixes are incorporated into the kernel. some have "voodoo" which is ext4 and is like what non samsung android phones often have. voodoo only has a couple options and most run it default. voodoo lagfix options may be incorporated into the recovery or handeled by the presence of a folder/text file in the voodoo folder.
there is also ulf (universal lagfix/ultimate lagfix). ulf lets you choose between jfs, ext4, ext3, ext2 and rfs file systems on each partition. it also lets you do the earlier ext2 loopback like one click lag fix. it is total overkill with options an the benifits of each is subject to opinions and anecdotal observation. but if yo specifically want jfs it is the only option available on the captivate right now.
wifi; different wifi drivers cause problems with certain routers because of a security measure. once a couple fixes for this were found new kernels appeared.
other "voodoo" features; supercerio is the developer of voodoo and is obviously a talented dev. he has created a color/brightness/sharpness fix for the galaxy s line but the port to captivate kernels took some time to come about. some kernels have it and some don't. there is also voodoo sound which lets you change the amp output for the headphones.
overclock/undervolt; there was at one time development on this for captivate kernels in 2.1. it was stable but a lack of captivate froyo source kinda killed it. also there was no interface for it, changing settings was done on in a text file that you had to write into a folder with a script, people had trouble understanding it. many kernels now are i9000 ports but the undervolt code often causes "charge death" some prefer not to overclock do to this instability, but then glitterballs came up with a fix. glitterballs prefers the overclock settings to be "mild" they really arent in reference to a pc though, 20-28% is significant but still there are others that make 30-60% overclocks available. the overclock setting on some of these kernels is a multi stage setup and isnt that user friendly involving an app and configuration files. there are also sceduler differences that can balence battery life and speed but i think samsungs settings are just fine
basically if you want overclock i recomend glitterballs work. if youre phone handle 1300+mhz you must go elsewhere if you "need" the max your phone can handle.
if you dont care for overclock there are many other things to look at. kernel hz set at 500 is snappy but you may prefer battery life and find one set at stock or 300hz
if color sound is important to you and thats a big reason to by a galaxy s then you want voodoo color and sound. im not gonna talk about files systems and lagfixes because despite the apparent differences in quadrant the every day results are up for debate.
modems; im not gonna tell you to match modem to kernel because i never found that to be true.. what i will tell you is that if you use bluetooth and "need" hsupa(over rated) then dont choose a north american captivate rom other than the armani based roms. there are 5 poular ones for non captivates phones and many more that work as well, choose at random for all i care, the biggest factor is gps performance and none of them do poorly, i recomend jl3 but kp1 can work better with some playing around, it seems to not give a stable position because it constantly updates stalites, the list is constantly changing in lbs test mode but it does get more satalites in my experience. others are jk3/4 and jl2(different phone that jl3) some say in there area jl2 gets better transfers but i dont find that to be true here.
ported roms; i9000/m and t959/d ports are great and at this time dont give up too much, they work with canadian t959d and i9000m modems as well as many other oversees modems that have the att 850 band . but on some, not all but some ports you may experience sleep death. it's a captivate issue and captivate roms since jf7 have a fix incorperated, i have mostly good results on the ported roms but 1 or 2 have given me sleep death.
captivate roms; work great! use as is or add a kernel with x,yand z features. with a captivate rom you give up either bluetooth or hsupa but hsupa is over rated on a phone unless you tether or upload files directly from your phone, it does help snappiness loading web pages but seriously my isp gives me 30% the upload bandwidth that i get with hsupa and i only see about 50% of the hspa potential in my area. my 3g connection gives me 300kbps and my isp gives me 600kbps. i think non hsupa is fast enough most of the time.
to the op, titanium backup does a backup of your apk's and data for those apps. it is not recomended to restore all system data if a new rom has a different base rom. this is what to use to restore apps after a flash, chose the restore apps and data setting, if you have problems factory reset and restore apps only.
cwm backs up the rom. it is a fall back incase a flash fails. you need cwm recovery either in the kernel or in an "update.zip" in the root of the internal sdcard. if you have 2e recovery or modded 3e recovery in the kernel you need to reinstall packages to get there from the update.zip. you may need to try twice. you navigate with the volume and select with the power button.
if you have a stock 3e recovery (rare now that there are altenatives, unless you flashed a stock leak or rogers rom as is) it will fail, you will need to odin/heimdal/neldar sgskernel flasher app flash another kernel to reach cwm recovery.
root explorer helps you reach the system files. if you think you need it then get it but it is really most useful for making tweeks or installing themes, some of that is better done in a script via update.zip or remotely via adb so you may not want or need it.

Asking what ROM is best is like asking which midsized car priced in the mid $20k's is the best. They are all pretty close in quality and only differ so much, according to what the dev felt was pertinent to them. Look them over and see what people have to say about them and try it out. If you don't like it, flash another one. It really is that easy. As some of posted in other threads, it's fairly hard to totally brick your phone unless you have absolutely no clue what you're doing. It took me months to get to the point where I felt comfortable flashing and it scared the **** out of me to finally take the plunge. Now that i've done it, i'd have no problem doing it again when/if I find another ROM I like better than the one i'm on.
The absolutely best info I got was from this thread. I have no idea why it's not stickied. Connexion2005 has done an amazing job putting these together and has taught me more in the time it takes to watch the videos, than WEEKS of reading threads.
How to videos

Extremely thorough, thanks all!

Lancered said:
Extremely thorough, thanks all!
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You're welcome. It's why I started this thread

Thanks !!
Thanks to all who provided these great answers !!
Much appreciated.

This was a very informative read thanks
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Meaning what exactly?

How I love when people bash people who are new to particular technologies when those same people were once new themselves.
Point is, provide education not just answer the question.

askpcguy said:
How I love when people bash people who are new to particular technologies when those same people were once new themselves.
Point is, provide education not just answer the question.
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That was my intention when I started this. It was great to see the guys above hashed it out. Even with all my posts There's a ton that people don't get. My hope is people will ask questions AND NOT BE LOOKED DOWN ON!
There are many MANY great people out there in the know, that are willing to help. Post your need, someone will eventually answer. NO QUEST IS DUMB!

[Q]Advanced task killer and touchwiz

i got 2 questions 1- should i use advanced task killer and enable auto kill??
2- i really like touchwiz launcher and i don't want to change it but its always lagging btw am using modded touchwiz with 5 dock items and transparent appdrawer

soudy1994 said:
i got 2 questions 1- should i use advanced task killer and enable auto kill??
2- i really like touchwiz launcher and i don't want to change it but its always lagging btw am using modded touchwiz with 5 dock items and transparent appdrawer
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First off all which ROM and what kernel are you using !!
i have some tricks to boost up ur SGS !!!

Ashtrix said:
First off all which ROM and what kernel are you using !!
i have some tricks to boost up ur SGS !!!
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am using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117579
with arabic fix patch and modded touchwiz

any help??

Uninstall and reinstall the modded launcher? I'm not familiar with it, so I really have no idea what the problem is. Does your phone lag anywhere besides the launcher? If not, it's probably the launcher itself.
As for an automated task killer, that is useless. Android (Linux) manages ram differently from Windows: it loads things into RAM so you can use them faster, and it kills things when it needs more space. This means that RAM is being taken up by essentially background processes—no CPU cycles are being used, and no battery is being drained, they are simply held in RAM to ensure later usability. Killing these applications, even while not in use, simply makes Android launch more apps to utilize free RAM in the background. Therefore, by closing them, you're forcing Android to open more, which consumes CPU cycles, drains your battery, etc.
If you're interested in making your phone more responsive, and have been looking towards memory management to do so, I would strongly suggest using the 'V6 SuperCharger Script'.
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Quick Tutorial
I use the MegaRam setting, which leaves plenty of memory free at any given time. I believe this is what you were wanting to accomplish with the task manager; however, again, Linux does not work like Windows. It has amazing benefits, though. Give those links a look.

upichie said:
Uninstall and reinstall the modded launcher? I'm not familiar with it, so I really have no idea what the problem is. Does your phone lag anywhere besides the launcher? If not, it's probably the launcher itself.
As for an automated task killer, that is useless. Android (Linux) manages ram differently from Windows: it loads things into RAM so you can use them faster, and it kills things when it needs more space. This means that RAM is being taken up by essentially background processes—no CPU cycles are being used, and no battery is being drained, they are simply held in RAM to ensure later usability. Killing these applications, even while not in use, simply makes Android launch more apps to utilize free RAM in the background. Therefore, by closing them, you're forcing Android to open more, which consumes CPU cycles, drains your battery, etc.
If you're interested in making your phone more responsive, and have been looking towards memory management to do so, I would strongly suggest using the 'V6 SuperCharger Script'.
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Quick Tutorial
I use the MegaRam setting, which leaves plenty of memory free at any given time. I believe this is what you were wanting to accomplish with the task manager; however, again, Linux does not work like Windows. It has amazing benefits, though. Give those links a look.
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That was awesome dude!!
nice post!
hey soudy1994 try the above post, i was gonna post that but he got it
topped with some extra easy tutorial !
These may also help you in boosting your SGS !
Build.prop tweaks (only if your ROM support for build.prop & init.d).
SAS Tweak.!
i think the above tweaks may have Juwe's Ramhack,i recommend go through em once and if the ramscript is not present you can have it, use the script manager (from the above tutorial )if you are a newbie !
I have phone patched with SAS tweaks+Juwe's script !
and finally would say try Jetpack ROM it has SAS tweaks built in and Solid kernel based on CF-root (semaphore)!
try my sign !

[Q] Extremely Low Ram & Camera Force Closes - CM7

I have a Droid A855 rooted, CM7 installed. I have the latest build. I have two issues, one is that the free RAM is ridiculously low with like 5 apps open it has about 20MB of RAM free. This is unacceptable because my Huawei Ascend has 90 free with many apps open, and the Droid has twice the ram of the Ascend. Is there any suggestions about this? Also the camera was working great and then it started freezing, and now the camera force closes when I press the button to take a picture. If I go to the camcorder it works fine, but otherwise I get force close. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

AtmosFEAR4701 said:
I have a Droid A855 rooted, CM7 installed. I have the latest build. I have two issues, one is that the free RAM is ridiculously low with like 5 apps open it has about 20MB of RAM free. This is unacceptable because my Huawei Ascend has 90 free with many apps open, and the Droid has twice the ram of the Ascend. Is there any suggestions about this? Also the camera was working great and then it started freezing, and now the camera force closes when I press the button to take a picture. If I go to the camcorder it works fine, but otherwise I get force close. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Personally CM7 has just never ran smooth. No matter what I have tried. Gingerbread was never really meant for the Droid so most roms have built in stuff to help with memory that I do not believe CM7 ever had added. and the camera is outright terrible lately, I have it force closing on all my roms. I really don't know how to help all I can really try suggesting is trying out other roms

durandgir said:
Personally CM7 has just never ran smooth. No matter what I have tried. Gingerbread was never really meant for the Droid so most roms have built in stuff to help with memory that I do not believe CM7 ever had added. and the camera is outright terrible lately, I have it force closing on all my roms. I really don't know how to help all I can really try suggesting is trying out other roms
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Thanks for the quick reply, I beg to differ on the Gingerbread not being for the droid part, my old Ascend runs Gingerbread Cm7 with flying colors, and this droid has double the performance...

AtmosFEAR4701 said:
Thanks for the quick reply, I beg to differ on the Gingerbread not being for the droid part, my old Ascend runs Gingerbread Cm7 with flying colors, and this droid has double the performance...
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Try Peter Alfonsos GB, I found that it gave me the most amount of free ram at any time

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Try Peter Alfonsos GB, I found that it gave me the most amount of free ram at any time
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Hmm
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I think you guys are missing a crucial part about how Android is built. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
Newer versions of Android, especially Gingerbread, are better at RAM management than older versions. Granted, there's an ever-growing need for more RAM for basic system functions, but Android is designed to free up RAM on-demand for the things that need it.
Just because RAM isn't free doesn't mean that the system is going to slow down. Android will put the stuff that's not being used anymore into a swap file so that the stuff you need to work with can do what it wants.

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I think you guys are missing a crucial part about how Android is built. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
Newer versions of Android, especially Gingerbread, are better at RAM management than older versions. Granted, there's an ever-growing need for more RAM for basic system functions, but Android is designed to free up RAM on-demand for the things that need it.
Just because RAM isn't free doesn't mean that the system is going to slow down. Android will put the stuff that's not being used anymore into a swap file so that the stuff you need to work with can do what it wants.
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Yes but the ram is going so low that it is closing my applications like music when I go to a different screen.. it's frustrating

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What? I dont understand

I agree with you and I will like to agree with you but it just won't work. This is like Windows Vista, they use all the memory, but it is very slow when you try to open application which you don't use a lot.. and it also causes a lot of slowness when you try to use more ram for soemthing else, like modify a huge image in photoshop and then switch to some other application.
Get back to the real story, my phone get memory lower than 50 free MB easily. and when I open Google current in this stage, it just hangs for 5 minutes. then I get a message "force closed". However, if I have 100 free MB, then I am safe, I don't see that popup message. Moreover, when I go to 40 free MB, I even have hard time to open skype and pick up the phone, it just rings, but the screen just hangs! when the screen refresh back, people get into mailbox already....
anyway, I found a software to temp solve this problem ZDbox. I set up when the screen hangs, "kill all apps in the memory" it is not best, but at least I can pick calls, I can run application without getting "force closed" message all the time.. because I need to reboot few times a day to solve ram issue.
perhaps, you can do a test yourself.
- install CM7
- install facebook app and run
- install google reader and run
- install google current and run
- install skype and run
- install gmail and run
- install google voice serach and run
- install google book and run
- install whatsapp and run
- install naver LINE and run
- install twitter and run
- install zdbox and run
- install lookout and run
- install go laucher
well after all this, your phone show be in less than free 50MB.. if so, try to run other application and you will see the problem.. screen hangs.....very slow response....not able to pick calls...
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Just because RAM isn't free doesn't mean that the system is going to slow down. Android will put the stuff that's not being used anymore into a swap file so that the stuff you need to work with can do what it wants.
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Yeah but even though "free ram is wasted ram" it still causes instability and force closes along with just pure out lag. My D1 lags when it has only 30mb of ram or less anything over 50 and it flies along. It lags to the point were even simple tasks are slow when they should not be.

AtmosFEAR4701 said:
I have a Droid A855 rooted, CM7 installed. I have the latest build. I have two issues, one is that the free RAM is ridiculously low with like 5 apps open it has about 20MB of RAM free. This is unacceptable because my Huawei Ascend has 90 free with many apps open, and the Droid has twice the ram of the Ascend. Is there any suggestions about this? Also the camera was working great and then it started freezing, and now the camera force closes when I press the button to take a picture. If I go to the camcorder it works fine, but otherwise I get force close. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Droid has 256MB RAM. (Actually, there's only 226MB RAM available to kernel.)
If the Droid has twice the RAM of your Huawei Ascend, then your Ascend has only 128MB RAM.
If it has 90MB RAM free with many apps open, then it means that all the system services and all the "many" open apps has to fit to 38MB of RAM.
That's hard to believe.
And btw., you can't compare RAM consumption on devices with different display resolution. Droid drives 854x480 pixels and uses hdpi bitmaps. I guess that the Ascend has lower resolution. The RAM demand is much higher on WVGA hdpi devices compared to low resolution HVGA/QVGA mdpi/ldpi devices.

When I my HTC Desire Z, I was in love, awe of the beautiful interface HTC Sense and the many adjustments I needed to make experience to a higher level, the Android. However, as I went about installing my wealth of applications, games and widgets (more than a hundred, are addictive), Sense started getting so instead of improving my experience. The initial screen would start every few hours re; each faucet took longer to record; Screen rotation when the keyboard sliding open continue for centuries; and each phone looked like he was struggling to get by.

About the GS6 memory problems (Let's Discuss)

By now many of you might've seen this or a similar article already: SamMobile - Poor RAM management affecting the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge
Disabled apps list in Post #9
From my understanding, the OS is over-aggressively causing apps to close in order to retain some sort of free amount of RAM. Could be a memory leak caused by Lollipop or something else, not sure. And just like the article OP said, unused RAM is wasted RAM on Android because it's Linux. Not Windows. So I'm failing to see the issue.
Have you guys been seeing a direct correlation between low amounts of current RAM and Android closing background apps more aggressively over time?
Have your phones been getting slower?
I'm not saying I found a solution but since running the Debloater tool using my own customized set of "disabled" apps, I have managed to free up about 400-500mb of RAM on average. Again the goal of Android isn't to consistently have tons of free RAM and close all the apps because Android is not Windows. But we have been seeing 3GB of RAM getting easily filled up even just after a reboot (well I have). Our phones shouldn't be using the full 3GB of RAM just after boot even with Touchwiz (especially after Samsung's quest to reduce the bloatedness of Touchwiz).
Those more knowledgeable than I please comment!
Anyway, here is my current RAM usage screenshot after disabling those apps I told you about. Not too shabby and I have noticed a bit zippier speeds, especially from screen off to launcher using the fingerprint lock.
This is the built in Touchwiz "RAM booster" that I accidentally found.
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What apps did you disable, do you have a list handy

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I will post the modified list of apps to use with that debloater tool when I get some time to re-review it. Originally I used someone elses list but quickly found out that they basically ripped apart the OS with actually causing any FC's. But they also left out important things like the Play Store and others. I don't want to do that to you guys or myself again.

About 800mb free at the moment. I do notice that it spikes upon wake (from about 800 free to 500 free) but quickly resets back near 800. I don't aggressively close apps or anything else like that, so this is after a whole day of video playback, play music, browsing, and phone/text.
So far I haven't noticed any significant memory leak, or at least one that's affecting performance.

I've seem the ram booster somewhere, but can't find it now. Where did you find it.
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mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.

How do we get the app sammobile has?
Verizon didnt give it to us

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mine is generally 800-900 free with no personal interaction on closing anything. i have never touched that stuff. i have not noticed any sluggishness that would make me check RAM and havent even disabled anything but the Verizon labeled stuff.
not saying a technical look doesnt show an issue but as just using it i have not noticed a problem.
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That's good, so that means it isn't everyone. Or at least you haven't done enough on the phone to cause it to basically consume all of the RAM. I know on my white 32gb Edge that I would often only have 200mb free. But since I exchanged that for my 64gb sapphire things have been better. Not sure why.
Either way I'm going to compile the the list from 119 into much less, maybe 70-80, momentarily. Just as to help debloat.

Here's a better list of apps that can be disabled. I added back in several apps that the majority of people would normally use. There may be some that you wouldn't personally use, but just keep in mind some people do. This isn't the ultimate debloat by any means but it does strip out a lot of stuff while leaving the good stuff in tact. Yes there are a couple Verizon things that I left out because some people do actually want to see their account on their phone, etc.
I hope this helps.
In the program, right click on "read device packages" and go to import and import this text file. MAKE SURE TO UNCHECK ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL APPS OR THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET DISABLED. They will be listed as "base.apk" files.

How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...

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How did you access a ram booster program on the VZW S6 Edge...? Can't find it anywhere...
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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.

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I've been using this app All in one Gestures
I have my back button setup to do "kill app" for a long press. And for some reason when I long press it while in the launcher it pulls up the RAM booster. I've not been able to find it anywhere else. It was purely by accident that I found this lol.
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Good find. I just set the back button up to "kill app" with a single tap. It will bring up the RAM booster if I long press the back button in the launcher also.

One of the most common signs is memory loss, especially forgetting recently learned information. But i don't face this problem yet.

Just read about an update pushing out to EU S6/Edge devices that (reportedly) fix the memory leak issues. No other word on any other changes, but it's only about 140mb so there can't be that many changes.
Never been crazy about positing external links here, so if you're interested in reading about it just Google it.