I'm struggling to type SMS messages on the HD2 key. It is always full of errors because I have not gotten use to this keyboard. I previously used the Iphone 3G and my experience wasn't this bad, even though the 3G doesn't have a keyboard either. I am looking a keyboard "app" that will be more responsive and less prone to errors like the HD2.
Also, which method is best for typing on the HD2 keyboard - with one hand or two hands? Thanks.
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Look for Swype for hd2
Yea, if your really struggling with the keyboard then try out swype, it works incredibly well. I had alot of trouble with the HD2 keyboard because up until now I've had resistive screens in my phones and have always loathed t9 prediction, even on my old candybar phones it was always off and I preferred being able to hack out a txt without even looking at the screen. However on my HD2 I have t9 on, and have "correct as i type" enabled, so even if I miss a key here and there the predictive makes up for it and I now prefer it to the swype option.
Also download BSB tweeks from this site, reducing the sensitivity of the screen with that helps a whole lot.
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Interested to see what everyone is using for text input and what they believe to be the best out of:-
Block Recognizer
Keyboard
Letter Recognizer
Phone Pad
TouchPal
Transcriber
Tengo
Slide QWERTY Keyboard
Other
Where is PCMKeyboard?
Where is MessagEase?
PCMKeyboard for me too when I'm on the move.
But surely it's a no-brainer...The hardware keyboard tops the lot?
First choice = The hardware keyboard (of course!)
Second choice = PocketCM Keyboard with my own layout
I voted keyboard, because I assumed that was the hardware keyboard. Until I saw the option for the slide-out qwerty keybard. So subtract one vote from keyboard, and add one to the slide-out.
That can be subjective
Best text input? Wow, that can be very subjective to ones own personal tastes and needs. For me the slide out keyboard is what I use for any doc I'm composing with high character count. For, lets say I just want to enter a user name and password, I will use the on screen key board. And for maybe making a running list (like a grocery list) I might use Transcriber.
I have not voted, firstly because Pocket CM does not appear in the list and secondly that I am undecided between Pocket CM and TouchPal. While Touchpal allows me faster typing but covers more screen real estate making it difficult to handle spreadsheets with frozen headers of more than a few rows
pcmkeyboard really doesnt work very well with window animations :<
gogol said:
First choice = The hardware keyboard (of course!)
Second choice = PocketCM Keyboard with my own layout
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Same for me.
Resco Keyboard
I voted other because Resco does Not appear on the list. I have the TMO Wing with the Querky Keyboad but find I always use Resco. So I guess I prefer Resco with the stylus.
The slide keyboard is by far the best method in my opinion, but only after I used the AE Buttons Plus to inactivate the two small soft keys of the slide-out keyboard. Before that, I would hit the left soft key by accident when typing R or T and this would activate the Send command and make my email fly incomplete. There was a thread for that recently in this forum which I started ,and it gave me very useful guidance.
PCMKeyboard is the best on the move but at home i use the hard ware keyboard
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I voted keyboard, because I assumed that was the hardware keyboard. Until I saw the option for the slide-out qwerty keybard. So subtract one vote from keyboard, and add one to the slide-out.
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And me! Arse.
PCMKeyboard with no doubt is the best
I always liked the HTC T9 pad when i had XDAs without hardware keyboard like on the TytnII and Exec (not counting my Ameo cos I hated the keyboard on that). However, when I installed it on this phone, I found an annoying behaviour where I would select a word but it would put only the first letter of that word in the conversation or message. Very annoying indeed. I have since hard reset the device but have not tried again with any T9 based pad due to time pressures.
Did anyone else have this problem?
I use MessagEase...
...since my old good Palm T3!
the reason i bought the phone is for the slide out keyboard.. lol
I've yet to find any input method I liked as much as Fitaly. So I voted Other.
Slide-out for me, all the way . Got so used to using the MDA Pro keyboard that even though I've had my Vario 3 only a few days I got straight into my stride even with the odd few button changes.
And as has been mentioned 'tis one of the main deal breakers for me too!
I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...
Hi all
I am thinking of getting this phone when it is released in the uk. but i really only have one issue which i want your opinions on, and that is whats the typing like on the screen (i use a iphone at the mo and its really good) has anyone used both, if so are they the same.
any help on this would be great
Many thanks
Neel
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
I to have both an iPhone and a Diamond and I can confirm that they're definitly not the same. The iphone is a lot better when typing, part of that comes from the larger screen but also the sensitivity. If you require typing a lot, I'd stick with the iphone or get a device that has a HW keyboard. Such as the upcoming touch pro.
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No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
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I type without the styles, using full qwerty and that works fine for me. It also helps to do some registry tweaks on pressure settings of the touch screen. The iphone's touch interface is more responsive though.
I use the compact qwerty with T9 activated and I find it quicker than using my previous phone (Nokia N73).
I have the ipod touch and I am not able to write with just one hand on it, and that bugs me... but with the diamond I can type with just one hand and the compact qwerty (2 letters per buttom). I think it's just a personal preference...
First of all the Diamond has been officially released in the UK for about a good week or so....i have one.
Secondly i use the full qwerty keyboard and have absolutely no trouble typing withmy fingers...in fact its great. I use the stylus as well and it works well too.
I have an ipod touch and i find typing on that to be a chore, i make way too many mistakes on the ipod touch compared to the Diamond.
If you buy the phone then make sure you do the tweaks listed in the tweak thread or better still flash to the TLR rom and all thos tweaks above are enabled.
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
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Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
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I have to agree - coming from an iPhone to a Diamond, I find the Diamond much better. I NEVER use the stylus at all and type with the full QUERTY. Its much quicker as all the symbols and numbers can be typed by holding another key for a few seconds rather than entering a new menu to do it.
I haven't adjusted the sensitivity at all, but I do find the Diamond needs a slightly harder touch... however it does work with a pair of gloves on (unlike the iPhone).
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
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The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
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I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
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This is not going to be fully possible. Hardware wise, the iPhone has a proximity sensor which will detect where your thumb/finger is going to hit on the onscreen keyboard and virtually enlarges the surface area of the suggested key to ensure that you are going to hit the correct key. It will also auto-correct the word based on it's huge library.
In addition to this is the obvious size of the screens, the Diamond's being smaller making it harder to type. The onscreen full QWERTY that HTC have implemented in the Diamond is quite poor and is prone to keystroke errors if you're a fast typer *like myself*.
I am currently using PCM Keyboard however and is somewhat 'closer' to that of the iPhone's keyboard capability, where the included dictionary will analyze the keystrokes of a word you type and will try match your keystrokes with the closest/most suited word in its dictionary by substituting incorrect letters with more correct letters surrounding that of the incorrectly entered key.
The iPhone keyboard, is without a doubt, the best onscreen keyboard I have used and I really do miss it. This doesn't go without saying that I do really love my Diamond too, I just wish there was a better keyboard implemented.
The iPhone/Touch is hands down better than any Windows Mobile device when it comes to the onscreen software keyboard. There is simply no comparison. I get that some people find the Diamond better but to be honest, and coming from a hardcore WiMo fan who's gone through at least ten PocketPC devices, the iPhone's keyboard blows any WiMo device away.
Part of the reason is the size of the keyboard and the sensitivity, but even on the HTC Universal with its huge screen, it wasn't as easy as typing on the iPhone. The real secret of the iPhone's ease of use is its Autocorrection feature. To date, there is only one SIP keyboard on WiMo that comes close and it is not PCM Keyboard, it's Touch Pal.
I recommend giving Touchpal a try; it does key proximity sensing the same way the iPhone does, so if you type in "hrllo" it will change it to "hello" after you press the space bar. The dictionary though is bigger and offers more word choices, and isn't as smart as the iPhone's so the iPhone keyboard is still overall better. But Touch Pal isn't half bad.
suggest you check the dates on this thread your nearly 11 months late answering!! lol
Phone keypad and T9 seems about as fast as my old Nokia
Love it.
Hey,
I hope that someone can help me out.
Since the screen is "quite" small... the keyboard in windows mobile is definetly too small, and even fingerkeyb requires some concentration.
Are there any good looking, perfectly working, dialer looking input SIPs?
12 button input with 1 - abc, 2-def, 3-ghi etc. Like on oldschool cellphones (and samsung touch versions)... with T9 textbook.
I guess there are a couple out there, which one is THE best?
saw this thread, with no answer...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501024
Search for the OEM XT9 keyboard. There's a phone keypad mode.
Thanks!
I tried it and it works ok! I like it, think I'm gonna use it instead of fingerkeyb, at least for sms-writing with one hand. There are some issues though, it's not perfect.
Wonder why no-one focuses on creating a better soft keyboard (eg sony ericsson!!!)
EDIT:
used this link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494026
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone else really liked the new stock IME included in Froyo.
I tried swype, SwiftKeys and the Htc IME, but I just keep coming back to the stock froyo keyboard.
With the new two rows of pop-up keys and the ease of switching languages, I find it to be the easiest to use. Definitely more intelligent than the iPhone keyboard.
Only problem I have when compared to typing on the iPhone is that it will miss keys if I type too fast, but all the ime I've tried do that. It's likely more of a touchscreen issue there.
Just curious if other people were enjoying it as well.
The one problem I have is the fact that it doesn't support the Canadian French keyboard layout. Typing in azerty is just terrible! Lots of bug reports in to Google on that point, but no movement yet.
if swype didn't cut it I really don't know what will, smart keyboard is really good and fast try it if you haven't already.
and to answer your question, I honestly loath it. but you see that's the beauty of android, if you don't like anything just change it lol.
I keep coming back to it also, does exactly what I want it too and is easy to use, used swype on my old windows mobile phone but see no need for it here. the text predicition means I rarely type near the full word.
In portrait mode I use swype, while in landscape mode I use the stock keyboard. Does anyone know any light half-qwerty keyboard for portrait use? I tried HTC_IME but it had that little bug that wouldn't register the word "IF". I wonder if it still exists in the latest version. Also is there an original HTC_IME lying around somewhere? I want something light and not as heavy as the modded one.
Tried Swype once.. not for me.
Been on stock ever since coz it's allright...
I can't get away from the HTC IME keyboard cause it has T9 standard keypad, and I'm just so much faster typing on that.
Tried Swype a while ago. But since FroYo I've been very happy with stock...Especially in landscape.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone else really liked the new stock IME included in Froyo.
I tried swype, SwiftKeys and the Htc IME, but I just keep coming back to the stock froyo keyboard.
With the new two rows of pop-up keys and the ease of switching languages, I find it to be the easiest to use. Definitely more intelligent than the iPhone keyboard.
Only problem I have when compared to typing on the iPhone is that it will miss keys if I type too fast, but all the ime I've tried do that. It's likely more of a touchscreen issue there.
Just curious if other people were enjoying it as well.
The one problem I have is the fact that it doesn't support the Canadian French keyboard layout. Typing in azerty is just terrible! Lots of bug reports in to Google on that point, but no movement yet.
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I like it. I use HTC ime too but I use stock alot. The reason you're more accurate on iPhone is probably because of its genius unseen system whereby it predicts the next letter you're going to type and resizes all of the keys' pressable areas based on the odds they will be selected. The greater the odds the bigger the pressing area. If the stock android KB implemented that it would be perfect. Thick keys is similar but not very good so I'm guessing there might not be a copyright issue. I know android indicated its awareness that the android kb needs a lot of work so maybe gingerbread will bring some enhancements...