Flashing with out a HardSpl, - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

It seems that it is possible to flash the HD2 with with out HardSpl, Is it possible to do this with the Tilt2/TouchPro2's ?
Anyone interesting taking on this project ?
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty..
This is worth reading, it is possible to flash without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, Here is the thread discussing it, hopefully this will be possible on the tilt2 in the near future.
HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Credit goes to bebe for developing this for the HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=270777

I don't know. HSPL is superbly easy, and if your device is too broken to see what the SPL is, you don't have to worry about the repair center seeing what SPL is loaded. If it's still a usable albeit somewhat borked device, just find the stock SPL/ROM/radio and flash that mofo befo' shippin' it off. Hell, you're in USA and on AT$T, too. Phone insurance for thew win, dude. Went from kaiser to rhodium for $125, and free after customer service fu*ked with the wrong mofo.

I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave

Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....

BTT it seems that is a good bit of success of flashing without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, if it can be done on the HD2 then is should possible on the Tilt2 / touch Pro or any other HTC phone..
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty.

F2504x4 said:
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
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HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".

redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
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and it would be "free" except for all the Voluntary donations the chef would receive from this..

F2504x4 said:
If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
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I don't see how that makes things a "whole lot easier". It looks to be about as complex a procedure as installing HardSPL, except it has to be done every time you flash, whereas once you have HardSPL:
1) Flashing via USB requires fewer steps
2) Flashing from MicroSD is possible
3) You can flash radios
So tell me how it is a "whole lot easier" when the initial step is approximately the same complexity, and subsequent ROM flashes do not have the reduction in complexity that HardSPL provides?

The problem with the HardSPL is that it many people are having problems and they do not respond to support requests anymore, even with donations. That is why were looking to do it without HardSPL.

sounds like a coup is about to happen!

I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.

DaveShaw said:
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?

thekewlone12 said:
What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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So long as the SPL you have (Hard or Stock) matches closely with the original one HTC intended for that ROM, you will be fine.

HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no

tonev said:
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
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Please see the HardSPL sticky thread, which is the correct place for this, and where I have tried to help you.

redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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No I CANT HARDSPL MY phone so it does not take 3 minutes it takes 3 days 5 hours ( and still counting )
Gunstar_Hero said:
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
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So you are saying that even if I donate for hardspl it won't work?

90% chance that if you're having problems installing HardSPL, this approach is as likely to (if not more likely to) fail for you.
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.

Entropy512 said:
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
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x2
Must do automatic flash while synced with pc also.

I asked about this a while ago and got the same kinda responses

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Hard SPL for Wizard G3!!!

Removed pending posting of instructions.
What is this for?
Thanx.
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Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!
I don't mind to brick my wizard again!
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.
Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.
Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.
Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!
I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.
Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).
Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?
AldoWeb said:
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John
So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo

what is hard spl ?

i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?
xpir said:
i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?
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mmmhhh...... wellllll it is a secret which must be found out by READING!!!!!!!
damn - there is a wiki
there is a Noobguide....
there is a thread called "How to flash HRAD-SPL....
and 1000 threadds more with INFORMATION!!!!
Please read and then ask.
Because when you don´t even know how to find out what Hard-SPL is then stay away from flashing. Because it is dangorous and could brick your device!!!
Thanks...
.... if you don´t like my answer - report my post to one of the moderators!
Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.
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Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.
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you could add "HARD-SPL and USPL" to your signiture then he does not ahve to search...hahaha
I was a newbie till about a month a go and have learned tons of information from this site. These guys are right. The information is right there you just have to search for it.

What exactly is hardSPL? USPL vs hardSPL

I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
nKiwan said:
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.

Terminology

Hello
Could someone please kindly explain what does SPL mean?
And why ROM is called ROM? Is it the firmware?
Doews HSPL void warranty and USPL not?
I searched at google for a while but didnt get a proper answer.
Sorry to ask this here. Anyway, I am sure there are a lots of people who would like this to know as well.
Thanks
no idea..
Check my post at the end of the "Dummys......" sticky post, Uspl Doesnt invalidadte as its a temporary change as far as I'm aware. Hspl however invalidates the Eula of windows I think.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
Rom=Read Only Memory in this rom you find the firmware of your device.
thanks for all your replies..
now I understand why these are called ROMs..
but one thing that still haunts my mind..
what does SPL stand for? i am very curious in this..what is it for?
is it some securtiy protocol? or what?
thanks guys..
SPL - second program loader.
the SPL is the bootloader. on a pc, the equivalent is BIOS.
HSPL is what you use to edit the SPL in such a way that it would allow you to use custom ROMS. its a permanent change as you are flashing a new SPL. USPL works only whenever you use/run it, so the SPL remains unchanged. changes are only temporary and when the USPL application is closed (or the device rebooted), the device goes back to its previous SPL.
See the SPL Questions page on the wiki. It will tell you more than your ever want to know .
AFAIK, USPL void's the warranty just as much as Hard SPL, but does it in a way that no-one can detect.
It's like saying the warranty is void if used in the attic, taking your phone in the attic will void it, but it will take some proving that you took it into the attic
Dave
nice example with the attic
thanks guys for your replies...Now I finally now what SPL is thanks to ASK768.. thanks...
have a great one...
no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?
ASK768 said:
no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?
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I suggest you read up on radio's. Generally speaking newer versions have better reception, GPS fixed, less battery drain. Obviously area/country you are in may effect reception so best to read up on which radio's work better in which areas!

Stuck on g1 screen - can't boot recovery, no bootloader

Hi. I flashes a signed-spl to my phone via update.zip, now the phone will not load in recovery, nor bootloader mode.
I have place a working .nbh (for BL mode)
and a working update.zip (for rec. mode) on my miniSD
if somebody could please assist me in getting this thing running again, that would be great. thanks!
I have exactly the same problem. Can anybody help?
Which spl did you flash......original, engineering, hard, or haykuro (danger)?
Please tell me you didn't flash the danger spl without installing the latest radio first....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593
oraeanast said:
Hi. I flashes a signed-spl to my phone via update.zip, now the phone will not load in recovery, nor bootloader mode.
I have place a working .nbh (for BL mode)
and a working update.zip (for rec. mode) on my miniSD
if somebody could please assist me in getting this thing running again, that would be great. thanks!
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Sounds like you got an expensive paperweight!
Time for a new phone
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is.. my phone was giving me a android.process.aboot (OR SOMETHING LIEK THAT) with an option to force close it only. I figured the SPL would help this situation.
oraeanast said:
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is.. my phone was giving me a android.process.aboot (OR SOMETHING LIEK THAT) with an option to force close it only. I figured the SPL would help this situation.
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No offense big guy but just downloading and flashing something that you had no idea about probably wasn't the best idea. Where did you get this mysterious SPL from? Perhaps we can help you trace it that way. It sounds as though you bricked though since you have little to offer in the way of retracing your steps so we can help you. What guide did you follow, what radio did you have?
What made you figure that an SPL upgrade would fix your force close error? Did you research any of this?
Yea just like what DirectMatrix said "What would make you think the spl would solve a FC issue".
DirectMatrix said:
No offense big guy but just downloading and flashing something that you had no idea about probably wasn't the best idea. Where did you get this mysterious SPL from? Perhaps we can help you trace it that way. It sounds as though you bricked though since you have little to offer in the way of retracing your steps so we can help you. What guide did you follow, what radio did you have?
What made you figure that an SPL upgrade would fix your force close error? Did you research any of this?
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well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
And i believe the radio was NOT v2 =[ i know thats bad..
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
oraeanast said:
well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
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The only SPL I have in my SPL folder that is that same file size is the haykuro danger SPL, so if you didn't update to the latest radio (2.22.19.26I) then I'm sorry to tell you, YOUR BRICKED!
oraeanast said:
well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
And i believe the radio was NOT v2 =[ i know thats bad..
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
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Yea thats the same spl I have on my pc that is the "danger" spl. Yep if you flashed that without having the newest radio then you are bricked my friend. And spl has nothing to do with allowing installation of unfamiliar roms. What that spl does is free up more space on our phones to be able to install the hero roms which are larger.
The md5sum of the SPL you posted is the same as Haykuro's danger SPL. What's quite worrying is that you had a 1.5 ROM but not the 1.5 radio, if you had the new radio you would not have bricked. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a few dropped calls on 1.5 ;-P You didn't read, flashed something you didn't know about and bricked. My sympathy for you = nil.
new thread idea
I was thinking on my drive home, maybe we should just start a thread titled
TO EVERYONE: FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE YOU FLASH THE DANGER SPL FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!!!!!!
Just start the thread, have it stickied, and have it closed before anyone can post anything in it. Then people wouldn't even have to open a thread, they can just navigate to a forum and have it slap them in the face. Then of course the next logical step is just to start a forum with the same title, then all they have to do is get to the website.....the sad part is people will still brick..
My sympathy for Mr/Mrs. oraeanast ended quickly when I read:
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is..
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so I agree with AdrianK's ^^latest^^ post...
sucks for you man
and to be honest sounds like a case of the brickedfromnotflashingradio1stidus
jf4888 said:
sucks for you man
and to be honest sounds like a case of the brickedfromnotflashingradio1stidus
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Nah, sounds more like brickedfromnotfollowinginstructionsandwarningspostedeverywhereitis...
h.nocturna said:
Nah, sounds more like brickedfromnotfollowinginstructionsandwarningspostedeverywhereitis...
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awesome. im aware i ****ed it up but people telling me i ****ed up over and over doesn't really help either.
If anybody has ANY clue or discovers any where to reverse this.. or maybe force the phone into fastboot from the computer that'd be great
oraeanast said:
awesome. im aware i ****ed it up but people telling me i ****ed up over and over doesn't really help either.
If anybody has ANY clue or discovers any where to reverse this.. or maybe force the phone into fastboot from the computer that'd be great
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Dude, you gotta calm down a little and try to understand where we're coming from. MODS, I know this is off topic but I feel I have to get this off my chest...>big breath<
[RANT]There are literally hundreds of places within this forum that tell you to flash the radio before the SPL. There are notes and warnings all over the ROM threads, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of posts regarding:
n00b: "I think I bricked"
person trying to help: "can you get into recovery"
n00b: "no, I was trying to flash the new SPL so I could get Hero"
person trying to help: "did you install the radio first"
n00b: "oh no, what's that"
Not to mention you, yourself, mention in your first few posts that you didn't know what it was, you just figured you'd flash it because you thought it would help with some kind of force close. When you do something like that, n00b or not, you are gonna take some flaming from the forum. Sorry this is just how these things work. There are thousands of people on these forums that spend weeks reading before they do anything to their phone, and there are just as many who read for 20 minutes and just start doing things. The very nature of a open forum of this type makes it difficult to have organized data. Everyone seems to understand that but some are unwilling to put in the time necessary to gather all the proper resources and data. Unfortunately, you seem like one of these poor people.[/RANT]
My only comfort to you now is go here and give your phone a proper burial....
DirectMatrix said:
Dude, you gotta calm down a little and try to understand where we're coming from. MODS, I know this is off topic but I feel I have to get this off my chest...>big breath<
[RANT]There are literally hundreds of places within this forum that tell you to flash the radio before the SPL. There are notes and warnings all over the ROM threads, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of posts regarding:
n00b: "I think I bricked"
person trying to help: "can you get into recovery"
n00b: "no, I was trying to flash the new SPL so I could get Hero"
person trying to help: "did you install the radio first"
n00b: "oh no, what's that"
Not to mention you, yourself, mention in your first few posts that you didn't know what it was, you just figured you'd flash it because you thought it would help with some kind of force close. When you do something like that, n00b or not, you are gonna take some flaming from the forum. Sorry this is just how these things work. There are thousands of people on these forums that spend weeks reading before they do anything to their phone, and there are just as many who read for 20 minutes and just start doing things. The very nature of a open forum of this type makes it difficult to have organized data. Everyone seems to understand that but some are unwilling to put in the time necessary to gather all the proper resources and data. Unfortunately, you seem like one of these poor people.[/RANT]
My only comfort to you now is go here and give your phone a proper burial....
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My sentiments exactly... You've BRICKED your phone, not had a small glitch that we can fix. Its called brick for a reason because your phone is now only useful as a BRICK! Its not reversible at this time, nor would I suspect it to be reversible in the near future. Next time, read, read, read, read, read... and then read some more before you try to flash some mystery signed-spl.zip that you found on your computer...
yea i made the same mistake a few months back your fones at a better place now...No more updates, no more wipes or backups just ~peace~
would like to thank DirectMatrix for directing him to my **Obituaries** thread
-Plays taps

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