what is hard spl ? - Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading

i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?

xpir said:
i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?
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mmmhhh...... wellllll it is a secret which must be found out by READING!!!!!!!
damn - there is a wiki
there is a Noobguide....
there is a thread called "How to flash HRAD-SPL....
and 1000 threadds more with INFORMATION!!!!
Please read and then ask.
Because when you don´t even know how to find out what Hard-SPL is then stay away from flashing. Because it is dangorous and could brick your device!!!
Thanks...
.... if you don´t like my answer - report my post to one of the moderators!

Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.

simplicity05 said:
Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.
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you could add "HARD-SPL and USPL" to your signiture then he does not ahve to search...hahaha

I was a newbie till about a month a go and have learned tons of information from this site. These guys are right. The information is right there you just have to search for it.

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Can somone please, going to cry in several seconds

my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
jawnsixteen said:
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
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reset and hold the camera button,you will see a 3 color screen...connect to the PC it should say usb in the bottom of the device screen....now install the latest update from your carrier.
PS
for future reference if you device is ended CID unlocked you do not need to use shelltools...just use the update utility provided by the rom.
also this info has been posted 1 trilion times
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Its not that hard to look at the stickies (thats were the really important stuff is located).
Here's a great post for you to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and when i powered on it wasn't your rom it was the one i had on it before with some things different, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the shelltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
jawnsixteen said:
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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A really useful thread (besides the WIKI is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 it, by the way, is the very first item on the WM6 forum, this forum has Dr. P's EXCELLENT thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 plus other useful stickies) It seems that your phone is 'working' after flashing the TMo 2.26, the first thing you need to do is find out if you have a G3 or a G4, then CID unlock appropriately. Skip the shelltool stuff for now, if you don't understand what phone you have, you will be on the road to "brick city".
--M
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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CID unlocking (as far as I know) won't void your warrantee--at least it hasn't voided mine (TMo US), but YMMV. That said, it isn't a bad thing to ask for help, (cross posting is generally frowned on) we like to help people who aren't lazy or stupid.
When you do post for help, generally the more info provided the better, but I sense you know that. If your phone is a G3, I am not really sure why you are seeking help in the G4 forum....anyway.
IMHO, Faria's WM6 works really well, and I haven't had serious issues with it. There are others that love different ROMs or will cook their own, great! Nottoosmart has a good looking ROM (a Mun derivative ROM) everyone will have an opinion, I know what works well for me. So "what is the best"? Hmm Faria's WM6 (for me).
--Mark
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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While keeping your phone CID Locked does keep you from voiding your warranty in that respect, flashing a custom rom on your phone will technically void your warranty also (although unless do something nasty to it, you should be able to get it back to the official rom and with it still CID locked then you should be fine). Example: You flash the latest and greatest WM6 on your phone and then your USB connector breaks and your SD slot doesn't work. You now can't get back to WM5 so they will know if they look. Far fetched, but I'm just throwing it out that if you are really concerned about your warranty, flashing custom roms may not be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, I'm just saying that doing pretty much anything in the upgrading and WM6 forums here is basically voiding your warranty. But I think in most cases, the carriers don't look that close.
And please ask for assistance when you have issues. There are so many posts though, its hard to tell who has really read and who hasn't sometimes. Just remember that the stickies at the top of the forums are your friends and there is really good info there to help you get unstuck (most of the time).
i love you guys

Really stupid question.

if you look in the wiki, theres a spot where it tells you how to flash/upgrade roms. going by those instructions it looks easy, BUT i see in some of the rom threads in the upgrading section that you have to download the Hardspl for the kaiser. my question is what the hell is and what does it do, the Hardspl that is. (Never flashed a rom in my life, still somewhat trying to see how do to it.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2048015#post2048015
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462&page=3
good info, but it doesnt explain if you actually need spl or not when upgrading? the wiki doesnt say anything about getting or using spl.
spl is strongly advised when upgrading. If u ever flashed like a router or something, and something goes wrong you have bricked it and its real tricky to unbrick that device. With spl, you can always reflash incase of a bad flash and it most likely wont brick. There should be more details in those links the mod provided.
ok, think i get it now.

totally confused....about JUMP-SPL and HARD-SPL

I have watch videos...read instruction etc, etc, all I could on ATT Tilt/Kaiser flashing...I still don't have a clue. Do I do some type of CID unlock 1st....then is there a Jump SPL and than a Hard SPL. Is any of them two done from the boot loader screen. I can fix most electronics but I don't understand.. no you-tube video...i saw it on flashing the kaiser....sound quality bad for the hard of hearing (me).
Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
Download Jump SPL and Run it. Then the hard-spl. This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
Regards,
Carty..
I just went through this a few days ago trying to flash my first custom rom. I have to agree it is incredibly confusing and contradicting, which is why I'm taking the time to post this. Just read as much as you can about it and don't try to flash the rom until you understand. I am no expert on this by any means, but this is what i did on my tilt to flash HardSPL. I tried to make this as simple as possible just so you see the exact steps I went through, but i highly recommend reading the thread linked in the previous post by Carty above and the other link I'm posting at the very end.
1. download JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061.
2. get the hardSPL version you need for your rom. I used v3.56 from the link Carty gave you in the post above, because the rom I am using was based on the official att 6.1 rom. You may need a different one for the rom you want to flash I don't know too much about this yet. Leave the folder where you unzipped the hardspl files open on your desktop so you wont have to look for it later.
3. connect your phone to the PC, and transfer JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe over to your phone with activesync. Remove your microsd card if you have one on your phone (very important).
4.run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe on your phone, it should go to a bootloader mode with the tricolor screen and underneath it will say USB.
5.Unplug the phone from the PC, wait about 5-10 seconds and plug it back in. Activesync should NOT be able to recognize your phone. If it does, something went wrong so start over.
6. Finally you can run the KaiserCustomRUU.exe from the hardSPL folder on your pc desktop and follow the instructions. It will load the HardSPL on your phone.
7. if you want to make sure it loaded, shut down your device and when your are turning it on press both the power and camera button at the same time, it will go into bootloader mode and show you what SPL is on your device. mine says SPL-3.56.Hard after I loaded the hardspl. You are now ready to flash a new rom.
This wiki helped me the most:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Read as much of it as you can, especially the "SPL questions?" link, that was the most useful for me.
I hope this helps
All good advice! I just loaded the HardSPL on my phone for the first time and it worked perfectly.
Now all i need is a work connection that doesnt block my attempts to download ROM's!!!!!!
tricky_uk said:
All good advice! I just loaded the HardSPL on my phone for the first time and it worked perfectly.
Now all i need is a work connection that doesnt block my attempts to download ROM's!!!!!!
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LOL.
hjlow makes mirrors of the ROM downloads at Blogspot. Are those any good for you?
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
LOL.
hjlow makes mirrors of the ROM downloads at Blogspot. Are those any good for you?
Ta
Dave
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Sadly blogspot gets locked as well.......i've managed to download some stuff of here but in general sites it classes as 'personal storage' it gets a bit upset about...
if anyone knows any other way round i'd be eternally grateful!
ben_zin said:
I just went through this a few days ago trying to flash my first custom rom. I have to agree it is incredibly confusing and contradicting, which is why I'm taking the time to post this. Just read as much as you can about it and don't try to flash the rom until you understand. I am no expert on this by any means, but this is what i did on my tilt to flash HardSPL. I tried to make this as simple as possible just so you see the exact steps I went through, but i highly recommend reading the thread linked in the previous post by Carty above and the other link I'm posting at the very end.
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Amen to that.. I like this guy.
Thx...clear and direct....now I am ready.
Carty said:
Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
Download Jump SPL and Run it. Then the hard-spl. This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
Regards,
Carty..
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does this work on diamond?or i mean, should i frist jump spl ant hen hard, or just jump spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408109&page=506 post 5055
materijalmen said:
does this work on diamond?or i mean, should i frist jump spl ant hen hard, or just jump spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408109&page=506 post 5055
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This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
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No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
denco7 said:
No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
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i have tried this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621 but nothing has changed...i asked for help, but nobody answers....see the last posts int that thread.
materijalmen said:
i have tried this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621 but nothing has changed...i asked for help, but nobody answers....see the last posts int that thread.
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Unfortunately this is the Kaiser forum and you will get even less help here.
Post your questions in the Diamond forum and people will help,when and if they are able. And in the meantime, read and search and try to figure it out for yourself, All the steps and instructions are there.
Sometimes people, unfortunately, mistake this site for the HTC free support line, with 12 techs waiting at their PC's to help. Then they get irritated that no one answers their requests for help on a timely basis . If people won't or can't answer your questions then you need to figure it out on your own.
The bottom line is, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. Sorry
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Unfortunately this is the Kaiser forum and you will get even less help here.
Post your questions in the Diamond forum and people will help,when and if they are able. And in the meantime, read and search and try to figure it out for yourself, All the steps and instructions are there.
Sometimes people, unfortunately, mistake this site for the HTC free support line, with 12 techs waiting at their PC's to help. Then they get irritated that no one answers their requests for help on a timely basis . If people won't or can't answer your questions then you need to figure it out on your own.
The bottom line is, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. Sorry
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I second Denco Read Read Read Read Read........ as anything you will ask, or can even think to ask..... more than likely has ALREADY been asked AND Answered.
Htc XDA member: how can I help you today?
Xda Newb: My phone isnt working.... Can you fix it ?
Htc XDA member: is your phone plugged in and turned on?"
Xda Newb:Wheres the on button?
( 1 min later) where do I plug it in at ?
(2 mins later) whats a battery?
(2.25 mins later) how do I know its on?
(2.3 mins later) why wont you answer me ?
(2.35mins later)Why arent you telling me my answers?
(2.4 mins later)whats wrong with my phone?
(2.5 mins later) You guys must be jerks because you wont spoon feed me [email protected]@@!!!
XDA MODERATOR : you noob you are banned for not reading PAGE 1 of the GODDAMN WIKI as all your answers were right there 1 click away. Now you cant access them HAHA. This is what you get for being IMPATIENT AND ANNOYING ( They should really do this here )
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Just my rant
denco7 said:
No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
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How is this link related to the topic?
I want to use JumpSPL to change the version of HardSPL I have on diamond b/c my USB port does not work.
kyniemxotxa98 said:
How is this link related to the topic?
I want to use JumpSPL to change the version of HardSPL I have on diamond b/c my USB port does not work.
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And what I said was that this was the Kaiser forums and not the Diamond forums. Putting Kaiser Spl's on a Diamond will brick your phone faster than throwing it into a bucket of water. So I gave him a link to the Diamond forum and Diamond Security/CID/Sim unlocker.
How is your question related to the Kaiser forums ?
Will it work on my TP/Excalibur? No as phones have different hardware to which is why h-spl's are device specific.
The best way to help yourself and not get a brick "expensive paperweight" is to head to device subforum and do some reading, as last thing you want is to be creating a thread named "Help"
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And what I said was that this was the Kaiser forums and not the Diamond forums. Putting Kaiser Spl's on a Diamond will brick your phone faster than throwing it into a bucket of water. So I gave him a link to the Diamond forum and Diamond Security/CID/Sim unlocker.
How is your question related to the Kaiser forums ?
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Since I cannot find anything helpful in Diamond forum, I dig around in other forums to try to rescue my phone and make it usable.
Which is a recipe for diasaster...seriously, if you are gonna do something as stupid as to try to make something SPECIFICALLY for another device work on yours, then you do not deserve to own a Diamond.

Stuck on g1 screen - can't boot recovery, no bootloader

Hi. I flashes a signed-spl to my phone via update.zip, now the phone will not load in recovery, nor bootloader mode.
I have place a working .nbh (for BL mode)
and a working update.zip (for rec. mode) on my miniSD
if somebody could please assist me in getting this thing running again, that would be great. thanks!
I have exactly the same problem. Can anybody help?
Which spl did you flash......original, engineering, hard, or haykuro (danger)?
Please tell me you didn't flash the danger spl without installing the latest radio first....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593
oraeanast said:
Hi. I flashes a signed-spl to my phone via update.zip, now the phone will not load in recovery, nor bootloader mode.
I have place a working .nbh (for BL mode)
and a working update.zip (for rec. mode) on my miniSD
if somebody could please assist me in getting this thing running again, that would be great. thanks!
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Sounds like you got an expensive paperweight!
Time for a new phone
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is.. my phone was giving me a android.process.aboot (OR SOMETHING LIEK THAT) with an option to force close it only. I figured the SPL would help this situation.
oraeanast said:
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is.. my phone was giving me a android.process.aboot (OR SOMETHING LIEK THAT) with an option to force close it only. I figured the SPL would help this situation.
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No offense big guy but just downloading and flashing something that you had no idea about probably wasn't the best idea. Where did you get this mysterious SPL from? Perhaps we can help you trace it that way. It sounds as though you bricked though since you have little to offer in the way of retracing your steps so we can help you. What guide did you follow, what radio did you have?
What made you figure that an SPL upgrade would fix your force close error? Did you research any of this?
Yea just like what DirectMatrix said "What would make you think the spl would solve a FC issue".
DirectMatrix said:
No offense big guy but just downloading and flashing something that you had no idea about probably wasn't the best idea. Where did you get this mysterious SPL from? Perhaps we can help you trace it that way. It sounds as though you bricked though since you have little to offer in the way of retracing your steps so we can help you. What guide did you follow, what radio did you have?
What made you figure that an SPL upgrade would fix your force close error? Did you research any of this?
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well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
And i believe the radio was NOT v2 =[ i know thats bad..
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
oraeanast said:
well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
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The only SPL I have in my SPL folder that is that same file size is the haykuro danger SPL, so if you didn't update to the latest radio (2.22.19.26I) then I'm sorry to tell you, YOUR BRICKED!
oraeanast said:
well i know that the SPLs allow installation of unfamiliar ROMs and allow them to work.. i did this before with a different one and it did the trick. that is why i repeated this process.
To be perfectly honest, this SPL was in my downloads folder and had worked before.. so i flashed it. I have attached the SPL so maybe somebody can check this out? I appolagize for my newbess and impulsiveness lol.
And i believe the radio was NOT v2 =[ i know thats bad..
THE ROM I FLASHED THIS ON TOP OF WAS JFV1.51_CRB43-ADP
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Yea thats the same spl I have on my pc that is the "danger" spl. Yep if you flashed that without having the newest radio then you are bricked my friend. And spl has nothing to do with allowing installation of unfamiliar roms. What that spl does is free up more space on our phones to be able to install the hero roms which are larger.
The md5sum of the SPL you posted is the same as Haykuro's danger SPL. What's quite worrying is that you had a 1.5 ROM but not the 1.5 radio, if you had the new radio you would not have bricked. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a few dropped calls on 1.5 ;-P You didn't read, flashed something you didn't know about and bricked. My sympathy for you = nil.
new thread idea
I was thinking on my drive home, maybe we should just start a thread titled
TO EVERYONE: FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE YOU FLASH THE DANGER SPL FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!!!!!!
Just start the thread, have it stickied, and have it closed before anyone can post anything in it. Then people wouldn't even have to open a thread, they can just navigate to a forum and have it slap them in the face. Then of course the next logical step is just to start a forum with the same title, then all they have to do is get to the website.....the sad part is people will still brick..
My sympathy for Mr/Mrs. oraeanast ended quickly when I read:
i flashed spl-signed
whatever that is..
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so I agree with AdrianK's ^^latest^^ post...
sucks for you man
and to be honest sounds like a case of the brickedfromnotflashingradio1stidus
jf4888 said:
sucks for you man
and to be honest sounds like a case of the brickedfromnotflashingradio1stidus
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Nah, sounds more like brickedfromnotfollowinginstructionsandwarningspostedeverywhereitis...
h.nocturna said:
Nah, sounds more like brickedfromnotfollowinginstructionsandwarningspostedeverywhereitis...
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awesome. im aware i ****ed it up but people telling me i ****ed up over and over doesn't really help either.
If anybody has ANY clue or discovers any where to reverse this.. or maybe force the phone into fastboot from the computer that'd be great
oraeanast said:
awesome. im aware i ****ed it up but people telling me i ****ed up over and over doesn't really help either.
If anybody has ANY clue or discovers any where to reverse this.. or maybe force the phone into fastboot from the computer that'd be great
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Dude, you gotta calm down a little and try to understand where we're coming from. MODS, I know this is off topic but I feel I have to get this off my chest...>big breath<
[RANT]There are literally hundreds of places within this forum that tell you to flash the radio before the SPL. There are notes and warnings all over the ROM threads, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of posts regarding:
n00b: "I think I bricked"
person trying to help: "can you get into recovery"
n00b: "no, I was trying to flash the new SPL so I could get Hero"
person trying to help: "did you install the radio first"
n00b: "oh no, what's that"
Not to mention you, yourself, mention in your first few posts that you didn't know what it was, you just figured you'd flash it because you thought it would help with some kind of force close. When you do something like that, n00b or not, you are gonna take some flaming from the forum. Sorry this is just how these things work. There are thousands of people on these forums that spend weeks reading before they do anything to their phone, and there are just as many who read for 20 minutes and just start doing things. The very nature of a open forum of this type makes it difficult to have organized data. Everyone seems to understand that but some are unwilling to put in the time necessary to gather all the proper resources and data. Unfortunately, you seem like one of these poor people.[/RANT]
My only comfort to you now is go here and give your phone a proper burial....
DirectMatrix said:
Dude, you gotta calm down a little and try to understand where we're coming from. MODS, I know this is off topic but I feel I have to get this off my chest...>big breath<
[RANT]There are literally hundreds of places within this forum that tell you to flash the radio before the SPL. There are notes and warnings all over the ROM threads, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of posts regarding:
n00b: "I think I bricked"
person trying to help: "can you get into recovery"
n00b: "no, I was trying to flash the new SPL so I could get Hero"
person trying to help: "did you install the radio first"
n00b: "oh no, what's that"
Not to mention you, yourself, mention in your first few posts that you didn't know what it was, you just figured you'd flash it because you thought it would help with some kind of force close. When you do something like that, n00b or not, you are gonna take some flaming from the forum. Sorry this is just how these things work. There are thousands of people on these forums that spend weeks reading before they do anything to their phone, and there are just as many who read for 20 minutes and just start doing things. The very nature of a open forum of this type makes it difficult to have organized data. Everyone seems to understand that but some are unwilling to put in the time necessary to gather all the proper resources and data. Unfortunately, you seem like one of these poor people.[/RANT]
My only comfort to you now is go here and give your phone a proper burial....
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My sentiments exactly... You've BRICKED your phone, not had a small glitch that we can fix. Its called brick for a reason because your phone is now only useful as a BRICK! Its not reversible at this time, nor would I suspect it to be reversible in the near future. Next time, read, read, read, read, read... and then read some more before you try to flash some mystery signed-spl.zip that you found on your computer...
yea i made the same mistake a few months back your fones at a better place now...No more updates, no more wipes or backups just ~peace~
would like to thank DirectMatrix for directing him to my **Obituaries** thread
-Plays taps

Flashing with out a HardSpl,

It seems that it is possible to flash the HD2 with with out HardSpl, Is it possible to do this with the Tilt2/TouchPro2's ?
Anyone interesting taking on this project ?
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty..
This is worth reading, it is possible to flash without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, Here is the thread discussing it, hopefully this will be possible on the tilt2 in the near future.
HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Credit goes to bebe for developing this for the HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=270777
I don't know. HSPL is superbly easy, and if your device is too broken to see what the SPL is, you don't have to worry about the repair center seeing what SPL is loaded. If it's still a usable albeit somewhat borked device, just find the stock SPL/ROM/radio and flash that mofo befo' shippin' it off. Hell, you're in USA and on AT$T, too. Phone insurance for thew win, dude. Went from kaiser to rhodium for $125, and free after customer service fu*ked with the wrong mofo.
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
BTT it seems that is a good bit of success of flashing without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, if it can be done on the HD2 then is should possible on the Tilt2 / touch Pro or any other HTC phone..
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty.
F2504x4 said:
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
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HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
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and it would be "free" except for all the Voluntary donations the chef would receive from this..
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
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I don't see how that makes things a "whole lot easier". It looks to be about as complex a procedure as installing HardSPL, except it has to be done every time you flash, whereas once you have HardSPL:
1) Flashing via USB requires fewer steps
2) Flashing from MicroSD is possible
3) You can flash radios
So tell me how it is a "whole lot easier" when the initial step is approximately the same complexity, and subsequent ROM flashes do not have the reduction in complexity that HardSPL provides?
The problem with the HardSPL is that it many people are having problems and they do not respond to support requests anymore, even with donations. That is why were looking to do it without HardSPL.
sounds like a coup is about to happen!
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
DaveShaw said:
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
thekewlone12 said:
What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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So long as the SPL you have (Hard or Stock) matches closely with the original one HTC intended for that ROM, you will be fine.
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
tonev said:
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
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Please see the HardSPL sticky thread, which is the correct place for this, and where I have tried to help you.
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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No I CANT HARDSPL MY phone so it does not take 3 minutes it takes 3 days 5 hours ( and still counting )
Gunstar_Hero said:
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
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So you are saying that even if I donate for hardspl it won't work?
90% chance that if you're having problems installing HardSPL, this approach is as likely to (if not more likely to) fail for you.
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
Entropy512 said:
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
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Must do automatic flash while synced with pc also.
I asked about this a while ago and got the same kinda responses

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