quick question - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hi guys, after much reading and debating, I think I'm ready to flash my first ROM. Quite nervous as I don't wanna brick but there's one thing I'm not clear on - when flashing a new ROM is it also going to be necessary to flash a new radio or will my stock one still be there working when (and if) I come out the other side?
Cheers,
Richard

anyone? simple yes or no will do!

rich1985 said:
Hi guys, after much reading and debating, I think I'm ready to flash my first ROM. Quite nervous as I don't wanna brick but there's one thing I'm not clear on - when flashing a new ROM is it also going to be necessary to flash a new radio or will my stock one still be there working when (and if) I come out the other side?
Cheers,
Richard
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Yes, your device and your radio will work, if you'll want or need you can flash newer radio also.

im happy with the radio i have, it works perfectly. i wont update unless i need to, the thing i need to know is will i have to definately yes or no. i only ask as ive read the best way to flash a new radio is on a formatted memory card - but i cant find an old card in the house even though i was sure i had a few. but if the radio will definately be there and functional then i shall begin flashing my shiny new energy rom...
thanks for the reply mate

rich1985 said:
im happy with the radio i have, it works perfectly. i wont update unless i need to, the thing i need to know is will i have to definately yes or no. i only ask as ive read the best way to flash a new radio is on a formatted memory card - but i cant find an old card in the house even though i was sure i had a few. but if the radio will definately be there and functional then i shall begin flashing my shiny new energy rom...
thanks for the reply mate
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Good luck, I believe you'll like your new ROM
BTW, I always flash my device through USB cable using USPL

success! not as painful as i thought it was going to be. a few issues at the start with the hspl wrapper not recognising the device but that was easily resolved. just booting up after my second hard reset and im ready to start exploring, looking great already. thanks xda and all its wonderful members!

Glad you got this resolved. Now you're gonna be a constant flasher like the rest of us
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Related

Ive Killed IT

i tried upgrading to wm2005 and it works fine as a pda and for satnav but dosent work as a phone, it will not get anysignal and when it lodsa sometimes in the corner it shows the a redio version other times it willl show just the rom, ive tried upgrading just the radio, ive tried upgrading it all, ive tried returning it to standadrd and it just wont accept anything? ant help anyone? i just want it back to standard.
come one people, 65 views and not one reply? someone must be able to help? i remember when this place used to be helpful.
What operator are you on? All of the recent ROMs do not work on Orange UK. The phone and txt message functionality is broken.
As for not showing the ROM version, this always happens after a crash. Just reset again as soon as you see "NONE".
am a bit lost here.
am on orange UK and evreything works ok with this rom.
just thought i point that out.
opps,thats all rom's since mid november
TEXT,PHONE BLUETOOTH WIFI.
Read The Wiki
NeCrOpHiLiCaT said:
i tried upgrading to wm2005 and it works fine as a pda and for satnav but dosent work as a phone, it will not get anysignal and when it lodsa sometimes in the corner it shows the a redio version other times it willl show just the rom, ive tried upgrading just the radio, ive tried upgrading it all, ive tried returning it to standadrd and it just wont accept anything? ant help anyone? i just want it back to standard.
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not being funny, but there are a few pages in the Wiki that can help.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home : explains all about WM5 on a BA
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5 Gives you STEP BY STEP instructions how to go back to 2003
NeCrOpHiLiCaT said:
come one people, 65 views and not one reply? someone must be able to help? i remember when this place used to be helpful.
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Before you complain that users cant help you, try helping yourself. You will find that people are more willing to invest their time then!
realkinguk said:
am a bit lost here.
am on orange UK and evreything works ok with this rom.
just thought i point that out.
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Wierd, you are the first to come forward to say that it works fine for you. Myself and a couple of other users haven't been able to get reliable telephony for months now. It may be a regional thing, perhaps only in Scotland. I've had replacement phones and I still have problems.
No one seems interested in helping as it's not something that can be easilly tested unless you have the problem yourself.
i was looking for hte downgrade link ill give that a go tomorrow, as tot he person that said i should try helping, how can i help if i dont know anything? we all need to learn and start somewhere. think ill be staying away from here with my spvm600 if thats the attitude this place is takeing.
Hey, it wasn't intended at you, obviously. What I was basically saying was that if you have the same problem, then don't expect a fix as it's a tough one to fix.
could it happen that you are one of those who downloaded the rom which someone had the gall to replace the original one? which rom upgrade did you use?
i cant remmeber what rom it was that i used now as it was about 2 months ago i done it, ive tried the downgrade link that was posted and when i open maupgrade it dosent see any rom on my device or any in the folder and when i click up grade it takes about 10 sconds then says tis done, which is obviously isnt dont, any mroe ideas please people?
NeCrOpHiLiCaT said:
i cant remmeber what rom it was that i used now as it was about 2 months ago i done it, ive tried the downgrade link that was posted and when i open maupgrade it dosent see any rom on my device or any in the folder and when i click up grade it takes about 10 sconds then says tis done, which is obviously isnt dont, any mroe ideas please people?
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use one of the latest (i.e. helmi's or xplode's) and upgrade again. be sure to follow the instructions (including that for device data, and the no/yes/yes input). make sure also you were able to download the whole file (it was a problem for some users).
you might also want to upgrade your radio version (1.15.00).
good luck.

8125 Problems

I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
HELp
What up fella,
First question, in a card reader, can you access your storage card? WM6 allows users to encrypt the card so its only usable from the pda. You can always reformat the card.
If you are leary or need more time researching, no problem. Then I suggest you reflash the OEM 8125 rom from cingular (U R on cingular, right?). Anyhoo, here is the link to download the OEM rom from HTC's website [Click Here]
Peace
mrgr8ness said:
I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
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My understanding is that G4 phones are a little trickier to install custom roms. I'd suggest reading the G4 wizard section until your eyes bleed. My wiz is a G3...and for the record...are you CERTAIN that your phone is G4? If so, I am not totally sure (like I said, I have a G3), but I am not aware of too many custom roms for the G4 devices. As for the storage card issue...remove the card, get into bootload mode, allow it to reset, then put the storage card back in. I found out when my wizard almost died, that SOMETIMES if you have the storage card in the phone while you are flashing and/or hard resetting the device, it sometimes won't read the miniSD. I wish I could help you more. Good luck. Hopefully one of our resident Wizard wizard's will read this and work their magic for you.
How did you verify if this you have a G3 or G4. If you have a G4 realize that you are not going to unlock it, for free anyway. If this is the case your best bet is to use soft spl to flash, right now this is the easiest way. I did it on a G4 Tmobile MDA. But you should first make sure you have a G4, if it is a G3 as I have noticed 8125's are, then you are in luck and you can unlock it and will have no problem flashing any wm6 rom. Send me a PM if you'd like. I am not the wisest but I am willing to provide any advice my newbie self can. worst case you can always put wizard love from the boot screen back on it.
mrgr8ness said:
I recently bought an 8125, it came with Farias WM6 custom ROM. After using it for a few days, I realized that I wasn't receiving a lot of my calls when the phone had been in sleep mode for awhile. I found the thread, that this is a known problem with WM6 ROMs, but can't find the thread now. Anyways, there was a cab fix, that I tried and no help. So I tried to flash a new ROM (XDS WM6v3), and the results were that I could not boot up at all, got the 3 colors screen. So I used Wizard Love, which appears to have put me back to WM5, which I am fine with as long as it works. My new problem, is that my storage card is not recognized. Please remember I am almost completely dumb at this, so I need detailed guidance. I have been reading, but the terminology on a lot of things are tough, then I have to read more. I am on dial up, so it is taking forever to try and get a remedy. I just want a working phone, either with WM5 or WM6, it doesn't matter. There are so many ROMS, I am overwhelmed, I would be happy with whatever ROM came stock on this phone as long as it works, receives calls, storage card works, and I can put a few apps on it. Oh its a G4 phone.
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You posted this problem in another thread,where many senior members gave you valid advises,there was no need to start a new thread for this.
Anyway as you say you don't care much to upgrade and wud be happy with stock cingular Rom,than I must advise you to download the official cingular Rom from it's website and flash,as you say it's a G4,it doesn't require any unlock or any other specific method to flash it being the official Rom,just download and run the 'romupdateutility' application and it'll flash all by itself.Your all problems will be solved.
but if you are willing to upgrade and confident to take the risk than read all the threads regarding G4 devices,before posting and post in the correct thread....But don't start new threads and SPAM!!
cheers
zabardast_1 said:
You posted this problem in another thread,where many senior members gave you valid advises,there was no need to start a new thread for this.
Anyway as you say you don't care much to upgrade and wud be happy with stock cingular Rom,than I must advise you to download the official cingular Rom from it's website and flash,as you say it's a G4,it doesn't require any unlock or any other specific method to flash it being the official Rom,just download and run the 'romupdateutility' application and it'll flash all by itself.Your all problems will be solved.
but if you are willing to upgrade and confident to take the risk than read all the threads regarding G4 devices,before posting and post in the correct thread....But don't start new threads and SPAM!!
cheers
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Thanks for the posts guys. I will be working on this today using the replies. Yes, I know I posted for help in another thread, but the thread has disappeared along with the advice that was given to me. I had it bookmarked to come back to, but the link is now not found. I now only have 2 posts, the 2 in this thread.
mrgr8ness said:
Thanks for the posts guys. I will be working on this today using the replies. Yes, I know I posted for help in another thread, but the thread has disappeared along with the advice that was given to me. I had it bookmarked to come back to, but the link is now not found. I now only have 2 posts, the 2 in this thread.
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Oh ! ok it's alright but just make up you mind and have clear concepts as to what you really like to do,do you want to go back to stock wm5 rom or interested in upgrading to newer wm6 upgrades,cuz in either situation the methods are entirely different,as you have a G4 device,remember it's a very tricky device,anyway it's all upto your decision,but whatever you decide,we are here to help you out the best we cud
good luck
Thanks! I would rather just go back to the stock ROM, get something that works and take the pressure off, by not having a working device. Then I can spend time at my leisure, to learn, and maybe down the road I may be more interested in custom ROMs.
Update-I reflashed Wizard Love, and still cannot access my storage card. I then loaded the stock ROM from HTC's website, from the link above. I still cannot access my storage card. It says my expansion slot is in use, but I can't see the card under memory, file explorer, or exploring from Active Sync.
Another update- Tried another card, and it worked. Tried my card in another phone, and it didn't recognize it. I will be borrowing a card reader and reformatting. If it doesn't work, then somehow my card went bad, coincidenatally at the same time I flashed a new ROM.
Update- Got a reader and re-formatted the card-- I am back in business, and the phone can actually receive calls, after sleeping all night! Thanks to all!

Sorry everyone a little help please.....

hi everyone, ill start by saying sorry if this is in the wrong place, but anyway, i am currently using itje touch it rom and i love it, but i saw his touch it leo rom and i like that one better.
My question is if i put on the leo rom do i have to hard spl the phone again?
thanks in advance for the help, and keep up the good work.
p.s sorry for my noobish-ness lol i oinly got my x1 yesterday.
NO, you only have to install hard-spl once.
wow that was sooo quick lol, thanks very much, i thought so i just wanted to make sure, as i read on a different site(cant remember) that you did, but on xda the threads say you dont lol.
again thanks you.
Haha, no it's fine to do it once. The hard-spl will stay on your phone after each flash. spl and rom have nothing to do with each other. So only once!
another question
i have another question. it says in every thread that hard reset after installation.
if i use the PC method (with rom update utility that is) would i need to hard reset as well? also what is the purpose of hard resetting? does it improve the performance ?
I recommend everybody to do one or two hardresets after flashing the rom.
hardreset basically resets your device and starts flashing the rom out of the memory.
regards
meska said:
I recommend everybody to do one or two hardresets after flashing the rom.
hardreset basically resets your device and starts flashing the rom out of the memory.
regards
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hardresets normally removed left-over files from the previosu ROM's after flashing. This should, in theory, provide you with a clean ROM to start with.

Returning to Stock for repair! URGENT

Good Morning all,
Hope everyone is well. I realise that I am probably repeating a post somewhere and apologise profusely for that.
However my request is quite urgent. I have my phone flashed with Dutty's 4.1 using the step by step guide to update radio and ROM etc etc.
My touchscreen has now started playing silly buggars and as such tomorrow it gets picked up by UPS UK to disappear off to be looked at. Obviously I do not think they will take it to well if it still has duttys on there
So just so I make sure I get eveything right.... can someone just drop me a link to the correct files for a stock flash back to the way things should be.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
Jody
To add an update, the boot loader screen shows:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.56.OliNex
Micro-Blackstone (LED) v6
Thought this might help in finding out how much work to stock?
I Think u need the original rom... or a htc one from the website?? ... can it not be downloaded from the htc website?? i may be wrong
I do but also need to make sure I do an original spl and radio as well
first off go to htc.com and download the romupgrade thats on that side (ive non is on the side check the wiki for youre countryrom)
then flash that one and se ive radio comes with it
ive not flash radio 13.**.**.**
then from the hard spl thread there a tut how t make youre spl stock again and youre finished
This is the last official ROM with 1.56 spl and 1.13 radio
h..p://rapidshare.com/files/231263089/-HTC_Touch_HD-MR_2009-RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
Ok, thanks for all your assistance. Just qiuck one, Once I have done all this how can I check it has all worked. Obviously the boot loader shows the SPL, and the ROM is whatever installed. Where will it display the current radio so I can check that too?
J7ody said:
Ok, thanks for all your assistance. Just qiuck one, Once I have done all this how can I check it has all worked. Obviously the boot loader shows the SPL, and the ROM is whatever installed. Where will it display the current radio so I can check that too?
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At boot it shows, just restart your device and look at the red text in the bottom right corner, there it will show your current radio version.
Could also see it in device info when the device is on but dunno if you still can considering you need to return it.
gl.
Thanks to all help, radio is now reading stock as is the 1.56 spl all installed from latest ROM from HTC so also stock.
UPS collect tomorrow and with any luck they will return a working touchscreen and I can continue where I left off
anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....
Curious????
imranmaz said:
anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....
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I also have read a couple of these help requests and the same problem, but what could it be, is it the windows mobile 6.5 builds that are doing this (not blaming the chef's in anyway), or some conflict with the spl... have to investigate this more...
imranmaz said:
anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....
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I have also noticed the very same, after changing the rom people are having screen problems! Why is that?
Returning to Stock for repair! to having screen problems after changing the rom
J7ody said:
Good Morning all,
Hope everyone is well. I realise that I am probably repeating a post somewhere and apologise profusely for that.
However my request is quite urgent. I have my phone flashed with Dutty's 4.1 using the step by step guide to update radio and ROM etc etc.
My touchscreen has now started playing silly buggars and as such tomorrow it gets picked up by UPS UK to disappear off to be looked at. Obviously I do not think they will take it to well if it still has duttys on there
So just so I make sure I get eveything right.... can someone just drop me a link to the correct files for a stock flash back to the way things should be.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
Jody
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dataSaMm said:
I have also noticed the very same, after changing the rom people are having screen problems! Why is that?
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Hi, can someone (Admin) change the title of this thread from Returning to Stock for repair! to Having screen problems after changing the rom?
I think the first is solved and now we have this new problem in hand.
best regards
+1
i've had the problem with a cooked french rom (Pyrana V17C). My screen started to freeze for a few seconds. During that time, when I put the finger on the screen and slide, the screen follows the move but it comes back to where it first was, ant the move is finally not taken in consideration ... it looks like the screen is an elastic...
So it did it sometimes and it lasted a few seconds first, and then, a couple af days later, it was more often, and I had to soft reset everytime, and yesterday, I finally had to hard reset to take back the hand, and the bug came back more quickly. So I installed the latest release of this rom this morning and everything seems to be stable since a couple of hour. If it comes back I'll try another rom, but if someone can find a way to set this, that would be perfect ...
J7ody said:
Thanks to all help, radio is now reading stock as is the 1.56 spl all installed from latest ROM from HTC so also stock.
UPS collect tomorrow and with any luck they will return a working touchscreen and I can continue where I left off
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You've found your solution to original query and returned device to stock rom & SPL. Thread has now run its purpose
Thread closed

G1 Bricked (Not able to fastboot)

Hi everyone really sorry for opening a new thread for a G1 brick.
My G1 has stuck at the T-Mobile screen and on pressing Camera+Power i cant get into fastboot to restore using the .nbh file.
I am not able to get into recovery using power+home key also.
There has to be a way to get my dream back....
please please please help
JTAG or go for a replacement. I'm guessing it's a DangerSPL brick, right?
Danger SPL
Yes dude....
i have done this so many time.....
this time i forgot to update the radio first and this is stuck....
Someone should have a solution for this....
I read many thread which say use it as a paperweight...
I am not loosing hope....
XDA Member will have some solution.....
Maybe you should try to keep current on developments.
There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
As for your "poll"... what do you expect to learn from something like this? Do you realize that any numbers you get will be completely MEANINGLESS?
lbcoder said:
Maybe you should try to keep current on developments.
There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
As for your "poll"... what do you expect to learn from something like this? Do you realize that any numbers you get will be completely MEANINGLESS?
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By adding the poll I am just trying to avoid post which says hey even i have the same problem.
I was upgrading to cm 5 which needs deathspl.
chinmayfun said:
I was upgrading to cm 5 which needs deathspl.
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Aaaaannnnnd.... it doesn't need it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704560
lbcoder said:
There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
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Sure there is as its one if the few full engineering spls. And I don't think your latest development will ever be quite as user friendly (however some more configuration it will be very close)
The real user friendly fix/patch for 1.33.2005 (those that know what they are doing can decide if any benifit of the spl exists) is an assertion statement in the recovery script to check the radio version is not one of the two common 1.x ones.
(the evil patch is to make the assertion somehow also autoinstall the lattest Rogers e911 patched rom if the user has the 1.x radio. Because atm the rogers rom appears to be very safe from the user messing up the boot chain.. actually we may need to "perfect" the spl a bit more I think it will let us erase hboot)
I am still a newb to the android scene - and do believe I as well made the same mistake - and have bricked my G1.
If eveything I've read is accurate, I can purchase a donor phone - broken screen, or other issues - so long as the mother board is still good.
Swap out the new mother board for the bricked one, and have a working phone again - right ?
Have an opportunity on a donor phone - have no issues pulling phones apart, and putting them back together
But just want to make sure I understand the basics
Thanks in advance for any replies
Motherboard only option ?
Is replacing the motherboard the only option left ?
I am not sure i would be able to do that
Worst day of my life i screwed up big time
Any help is appreciated.
Some tool to recover back to original.
I can understand there is no way to repair as I am not able to get into recovery nor fastboot so cant adb also...
youtube
i checked the below video bt this is kinda a complicated and nt a solution for me
chinmayfun said:
i checked the below video bt this is kinda a complicated and nt a solution for me
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There is no tool to get it back except by the options listed above. If you are not going to switch the mobos in the G1 then you won't be able to do the other option either. There is no software that can bring your G1 back after a deathspl.
protomanez said:
There is no tool to get it back except by the options listed above. If you are not going to switch the mobos in the G1 then you won't be able to do the other option either. There is no software that can bring your G1 back after a deathspl.
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Thanks....
i will have to plan out on buying a new android....
had waited for a long time to get tht android phone from a friend in usa....
now there are many android phones available in india.... will have to start saving some money.... cant live without an android....
hey,
i had the same prob.
only thing,
mine bricke in cause of a radio update,
i tried all which was in my head,
and all i can do
but after some nights spending to my phone i found this:
i copied my nand backup to root of sd,
and connected it to pc
first he told me, device not known
so i tried to boot the modified recovery,
and *tada* i was in recovery mode,
plz try and tell me if it fix your problem,
for mine it did
best regards,
psycho
Mine is also due to radio update dude, before flashing spl the radio has to be flashed i and forgot to do that.
Will try out your suggestion, just hoping that it work and my g1 is back to life.
Ne ways appreciate your suggestion.
Please let me know if you were able to get into recovery mode prior to putting the files on the sd card.
And if you could tell me the list of files (if u had nething other then the nand update) which you put on the sd card, i can replicate the exact process.
Thanks,
Chinmay
Hope
Is there any hope to get the G1 back to life from the Death SPL Brick ?
You should read instructions carefully man. Its not that hard. You should always verify that you have a compatible radio before flashing DangerSPL.
There is a method to recover your device and it involves a lot of time and patience. Google "JTAG".
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
"JTAG".
me too, my G1 Bricked (Not able to fastboot). but i wanna know if the JTAG method work 100%.please.

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