hi everyone, ill start by saying sorry if this is in the wrong place, but anyway, i am currently using itje touch it rom and i love it, but i saw his touch it leo rom and i like that one better.
My question is if i put on the leo rom do i have to hard spl the phone again?
thanks in advance for the help, and keep up the good work.
p.s sorry for my noobish-ness lol i oinly got my x1 yesterday.
NO, you only have to install hard-spl once.
wow that was sooo quick lol, thanks very much, i thought so i just wanted to make sure, as i read on a different site(cant remember) that you did, but on xda the threads say you dont lol.
again thanks you.
Haha, no it's fine to do it once. The hard-spl will stay on your phone after each flash. spl and rom have nothing to do with each other. So only once!
another question
i have another question. it says in every thread that hard reset after installation.
if i use the PC method (with rom update utility that is) would i need to hard reset as well? also what is the purpose of hard resetting? does it improve the performance ?
I recommend everybody to do one or two hardresets after flashing the rom.
hardreset basically resets your device and starts flashing the rom out of the memory.
regards
meska said:
I recommend everybody to do one or two hardresets after flashing the rom.
hardreset basically resets your device and starts flashing the rom out of the memory.
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hardresets normally removed left-over files from the previosu ROM's after flashing. This should, in theory, provide you with a clean ROM to start with.
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Really dumb question. I am about to install the HTC WM 6.1 ROM. I checked the Wiki and FAQs and they mention doing a hard reset before flashing. i'm sure though I saw a mention somewhere about doing one AFTER flashing too but am blowed if I can find it now. Is it necessary? My thinking is that the ROM flash will totally blitz the device anyway so no further reset is needed???
Its just a recomendation, you dont have to personally do it yourself. It's just there for if you want to. Personally I do it just so I know that everything is okay after my initial install its up to you.
Yeah it's necessary to hard reset after upgrading. Check the last last couple of paras of THIS for further info.
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Yeah it's necessary to hard reset after upgrading.
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It says it clears most problems, well I never have too many problems with mine so. I guess do what it says.
You'll find that your device will run better on a new rom if it hard reset immediately after flashing. Also, on a lot of the newer 6.1 roms, it is also recommended that you also power down the device after flashing
many people recomend that you do a hard reset after flashing a new ROM:
1-why?
2-does it really improve anything are there any people who think that this is a myth? ive even seen people claming that this solved their battery drange problem
3- whats the difference between a freshly flashed rom and a hard reset device?
4-when exactly is the best time: after the flash directly or after the first reboot when the phone finishes installing stuff from extended memory?
I'm wondering the same thing...
Me too
but i've heard that there can be some "rests" of the old rom after flashing a new.
And the hard reset clears the whole memory, so the system is "clean".
If I'm wrong tell me how it is right.
Personally, I don't believe this. I never did and never have a problem.
the argument is that a rom image (that you flash) doesn't always fill the entire memory space so there's a chance that some of the arrays could contain old data as the RUU doesn't clear the space first.
It doesn't hurt to hard reset whether this scenario happens or not, just hold the hardkeys down during first boot after it comes out of bootloader ..
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Personally, I don't believe this. I never did and never have a problem.
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the plot thickens
even the cooks thinks its not worthwhile
ill do it anyway (even if its a myth) since there is no need to wait for the rom to boot for the first time and no extra time is needed as fards says
From my experience, you really need to hard reset itje's touchit roms. I'm not sure why, but when I didn't hard reset, the device felt really really slow. This is very noticeable. After the hard reset, everything will be fast again.
I'm using jack's lite rom now, but I don't find that you need to hard reset on this rom.
i also never hard reset my device after a rom upgrade. never had problems.
ive tested my self acouple times tryin a rom for a day then hard reseting and see no difference in file structure, (backups) or registry (reg dump and compare)
so i do not hard reset my device after a hard reset
shadowmike said:
so i do not hard reset my device after a hard reset
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ummmm!!!... ok
i had tons of strange problems when i didnt do a hardreset after the flash.
software didnt work, icons were missing, phone didnt worked at all and so son. all problems were usualy fixed after a hardreset.
+1 for the not really worth it but do it anyway on the xperia (even in itje roms)
if this poll was on the wizard forum, im sure everybody will say its a MUST. so far only %30 here think its worth doing
yeah its a bit weird that only %30 think its worthwhile considering the number of people who do it when you read the itje ROM thread
THE GRIZZ said:
yeah its a bit weird that only %30 think its worthwhile considering the number of people who do it when you read the itje ROM thread
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many people use and think hard reset is equal to push the stylus into the soft reset hole...
I recommend hard-reset after flash...
It happens so many times that when ppl flashing my roms, and get bugs that I dont have, or many others dont have..
And what has been the sollution for many??? Hard-reset...suddenly they report back that it fixed their issue??
And how can ya'll "non-hard-spls-belivers" explain that?
But no matter what..
If you feel it helps, so do it
If you think it wont help...then dont
ah, and one thing more...
If you flash only the same build, basicly same roms, just with minor updates, then hard-reset after flash might not be needed cause the conflicting residue in nand might not conflict with the new flash...
perhaps just speculations and sci-fi....
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
but as said before...ya'll do what you want
itje said:
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
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I always recomend hard-spl for flashing new firmware, but thats off topic
I'll do everytime after flashed a new rom. 宁可信其有，不可信其无,believe it just cost you press some keys together, lol
fards said:
the argument is that a rom image (that you flash) doesn't always fill the entire memory space so there's a chance that some of the arrays could contain old data as the RUU doesn't clear the space first. It doesn't hurt to hard reset whether this scenario happens or not, just hold the hardkeys down during first boot after it comes out of bootloader ..
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After flashing, during the first boot, there already IS something that looks like a hard reset. Something like "auto-hard-reset". Therefore allow me to ask you 3 questions please:
1. Is this "auto-hard-reset" similar to the manual hard reset(when we push simultaneously left, right and soft reset key, or via Start>Settings>System>Clear Storage)?
2. What exactly did you mean in your quote(its part that I've marked bold)? I've never heard anything about holding any keys DURING the first boot. Everywhere is written: "Make hard reset AFTER you flash." Or maybe I missed something?
3. What if NOT to wait for this "auto-hard-reset", and just manually, BEFORE it happens, make an HR(pushing simultaneously left, right and soft reset key) in time when firmware splash screen is showed? It would save the time... but is it harmless?
Thank you very much for your answers!
itje said:
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
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Hey Itje, did you really mean hard spl?
Posting just to not let my question gone forever in thousands of new threads Hope you'll answer it. Thank you very much.
Der_Immitanz_konverter said:
Hey Itje, did you really mean hard spl?
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guess was just a typo, he means hard-reset
i forget it , very stupid.
but i use touch-it rom for two days it's not hang or anything.
n13oss said:
i forget it , very stupid.
but i use touch-it rom for two days it's not hang or anything.
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That's weird
The hard-SPL let you flash custom roms on your device.
Maybe the hard-SPL is included in the Touch-it, not sure about that
As long you don't have problems, there's no reason to worry about
i didn't used it either, and didn't start with the touch rom, but another one.
And don't have any problems yet, can flash every rom
greatz
Patrick
there is no need to make a hard spl every time you flash a rom. The first hard spl you do will stay "forever" and allows you to flash as many custom roms as you want.
Dont forget to read the forums. There are a lot of helpful FAQs and threads around. Just do a search.
Woo Hoo !
i will buy pizza for all you guys !
last flash i forgot the hard spl, too. But instead of flashing the new rom my phone stays at the old one...
very strange ^^ reflash with hardspl helps
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last flash i forgot the hard spl, too. But instead of flashing the new rom my phone stays at the old one...
very strange ^^ reflash with hardspl helps
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Yeah like someone said before
The Hard SPL stays
only if you have some problems you can reflash it with hard SPL again and with a custom roms, but if you don't have any probs, you don't have to do it anymore ;-)
I'm not sure if this is correct (correct me if i'm wrong), but if you flash your phone with an official rom/firmware, the hard-spl-thing will be gone.
So after flashing with an official rom/fw, you'll need to flash the hard-spl again if you want a custom rom on it.
hm... i think you have missunderstand me... ^^
I wasn't able to flash the new Custom Rom. I tried to do so and the phone was in bootloader mode and then there comes the thing that says "23%" ... "24%" and so on...
But after the Soft Reset ("...100%") there wasnt the new rom on my phone but the old one...
So that didnt work for me...
I think you have to flash the hard spl every time before you can flash a custom rom
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I think you have to flash the hard spl every time before you can flash a custom rom
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No, you don`t need too, HardSPL stays forever.
And why wasn't I able to flash a new rom without hardspl first?
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And why wasn't I able to flash a new rom without hardspl first?
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Because, before you flash custom rom for the first time, you need to HardSPL first, but only one time.
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hm... This was my 30. flash of a custom rom, I think.
Can`t say, .nbh file was damaged in some way, but if u flash same file after HardSPL, hmm.. wierd Never happend to me.
any ideas.......read all the threads here, nothing works.
i had the 1.7 orange version. hardspl'd it and put a 6.5 dev on there, but radio quality was poor. so followed the procedure to put the stockspl back on there. But nothing else works, I can't restore the original rom (grabbed from here) as the screen stays at 0%. tried to hardspl it again but that doesn't work either.
what do i do now .........?
thanks.
Was restoring the stockspl succesfull?
What info do you get in bootloader?
The info is:
JADE110 64M
SPL-1.40.0000
MicroP-Jade (LED) v5
It still has windows 6.5 rom on there tho, which is seriously messed up now.
pls dont wast threads
hi
a humble request Kindly dont was threads i have created a specific thread for Q& A on Jade why not post it their pls see below link
i see u have wasted 3 thread which could have been used for a much more usefull purpose this is just my humble request to you i hope u will do the neeful thanks
Note : kindly read the first page u would understand why not to waste threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534581
orange3g said:
any ideas.......read all the threads here, nothing works.
i had the 1.7 orange version. hardspl'd it and put a 6.5 dev on there, but radio quality was poor. so followed the procedure to put the stockspl back on there. But nothing else works, I can't restore the original rom (grabbed from here) as the screen stays at 0%. tried to hardspl it again but that doesn't work either.
what do i do now .........?
thanks.
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"a humble request Kindly dont was threads" read your thread on that, space taken up whether new thread or reply is the same.
orange3g said:
The info is:
JADE110 64M
SPL-1.40.0000
MicroP-Jade (LED) v5
It still has windows 6.5 rom on there tho, which is seriously messed up now.
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Am afraid you have a problem, you should have down it the other way around...first stock ROM then stock SPL.....but this is merely a fact then helping you out, i have absolutely no clue how to go from here...sorry!
Maybe someone who can offer some practical assistance will be along soon ......
@Nirak: yes, I misread it. What a silly thing to do. Do you think HTC can help. The phone is in warranty.
Well, since you've got stock SPL on it you could give it a try. When they start asking questions you could say you tried to install a WM 6.5 ROM by accident.., dunno if they buy it...
But on the other hand, being honest is maybe better, they might just help you out or else you have to pay, but since you have a rather expensive paperweight right now, this might be an option too.
BTW.. did you try to contact one of the releasers of the HardSPL? (Cmonex or Olipro), you never know where they can come up with....
May be they will see this thread. .... otherwise how can I contact them?
Thanks for the ideas.
Have you tried to flash your rom through the boot loader mode
try this
hi
try this
1. do HSPL on ur phone again using the tools given in the thread
2.after successful HSPL Flash the Stoc rom the right one for ur phone
3.then flash the Stock SPL again the right spl for ur phone
this is just my suggestion i hope ur successful and it helps to solve ur problem
goodluck
orange3g said:
May be they will see this thread. .... otherwise how can I contact them?
Thanks for the ideas.
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Send them a PM, Olipro is not often here, but Cmonex is
haree said:
hi
try this
1. do HSPL on ur phone again using the tools given in the thread
2.after successful HSPL Flash the Stoc rom the right one for ur phone
3.then flash the Stock SPL again the right spl for ur phone
this is just my suggestion i hope ur successful and it helps to solve ur problem
goodluck
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Doesn't work because it needs a functioning windows mobile, which I don't have. Mine gets stuck.
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Have you tried to flash your rom through the boot loader mode
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Yes, nothing happens. The screen is stuck at 0%. I tried using a htc original rom, it got to 1% and said something like not suitable for this device.
I sure this sounds rather silly ,and I am sure you have tried it,have you tried removing the battery and then putting it back again.
Not sure if you tried this already:
Run HardSPL when your phone is in tricolor mode (bootloader?).
Then reflash a stock ROM, also in tricolor mode.
Finally, flash stock SPL.
Hope this helps.
@izzysc: I have tried it (will try again though) in running HardSPL when phone is in tricolor mode. It did not work.
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Well, since you've got stock SPL on it you could give it a try. When they start asking questions you could say you tried to install a WM 6.5 ROM by accident.., dunno if they buy it...
But on the other hand, being honest is maybe better, they might just help you out or else you have to pay, but since you have a rather expensive paperweight right now, this might be an option too.
BTW.. did you try to contact one of the releasers of the HardSPL? (Cmonex or Olipro), you never know where they can come up with....
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I have PMd Cmonex. Thanks.
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Tx! had an idea you could help out...
Ok i asked this a couple of times but no1 repllied, I just wanted to know that do we have to hard-reset ONLY after the first time we flash a ROM or is it a mandate aftre every flash....
THANX!
To get maximum performance from the ROM you need to Hard-Reset after you flash. Othewise you may face some bugs. I usually hard-reset two times after flash.
agent_47 highly recommends it...
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NOTE: hardrest after flashing
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Thanx guys..the problem with hard reset is that it blows away al the data iinstalled..softwares etc...
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Thanx guys..the problem with hard reset is that it blows away al the data iinstalled..softwares etc...
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Flashing a new ROM will anyway do this even if you do not hard reset?
Strongly recommends hardreset after flashing..
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Flashing a new ROM will anyway do this even if you do not hard reset?
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OOps..u got me....yea, but if it does it anyway, WTH, i wil hard reset...also, wanted to ask, if the Infite is better or the X1.5...??
hard reset is a must , no doubt
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hard reset is a must , no doubt
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Thanx....but now my confusion has doubled, Chritian's ROM 6.5.3 or Spikegotti's newly released 6.5??
Why are we spoilt choices????
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To get maximum performance from the ROM you need to Hard-Reset after you flash. Othewise you may face some bugs. I usually hard-reset two times after flash.
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The same 4 me!
Not needed in my opinion. In 99,9% of the flashes there will be no problem and you can always hard reset when you face any problems.
The phone is also hard resetting after every flash so it's already hard resetted don't think a second time will make it work better.
I never hard reset after any flash and never had any problem(and flashed to many times with rom testing etc.)
It's up to you but I think it's not needed since it will not make any difference and even after the hard reset problems can occur.
Everyone say do hardreset but most people don't understand why?
In my opinion question is very good..
For example. I do MTTY before every flash, it gives much better results to hardresets but If I need to do hardreset after flashing after MTTY? hmmm
I never got any suspicious problems after MTTY, after even 3 hardresets without MTTY sometimes - YES.
The problem is e rest of old ROM. When we flash smaller rom after a bigger one (i think so) them could stay some bugs which hardresets could solve but not always.
But what's after MTTY? If I still neeed to HR it means that rom makes bugs while being flashed. It would be sick.
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Not needed in my opinion. In 99,9% of the flashes there will be no problem and you can always hard reset when you face any problems.
The phone is also hard resetting after every flash so it's already hard resetted don't think a second time will make it work better.
I never hard reset after any flash and never had any problem(and flashed to many times with rom testing etc.)
It's up to you but I think it's not needed since it will not make any difference and even after the hard reset problems can occur.
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Yes, correct, 99 out of 100 times it may be fine, but it takes a matter of seconds to hard reset device after you have flashed a new rom. Many people have seen benefits from doing this HR. If chef recommends it, then its best to do it.
Rick
p.s. inital query answered, thread closed