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I realise there was a giant mad thread about this that just got closed and I'm not interested in reforming that here. I have a few questions and would like some discussion but not interested in arguments
1) Prices where you are?
Where I live (New Zealand) Nexus One cost about the same as the Galaxy S. I'm just wondering is the Nexus One regarded as a cheaper phone in America or where ever you live (I realise it's not sold anymore, but before they stopped selling it) and when I say cheaper I mean purely money wise, not feel or anything.
I ask this because I've seen the statement before: "Galaxy S is great but it's not worth the extra money from a Nexus" and just wondering if that's how it really is.
2) Gaming?
I'm curious as I see a lot of people here defending their Nexus One's over the Galaxy S and I understand the reasons they give however I have a feeling all the people that prefer their Nexus One's to any Galaxy S series phone don't use their phones for gaming much, if at all. Would this be correct?
I currently own a Nexus One and I have to be honest for gaming it really sucks. I was so excited for Gameboy & Playstation emulators and I can't play any kind of RPG or Action game on them that requires me to push more than 1 button at a time or it registers my fingers all over the place!
My Situation
Due to prices being what I believe to be a little backwards here I can sell my old Nexus One (with a couple of little marks around it, etc, basically it's just used) and buy a BRAND NEW 8GB Galaxy S and it would only cost me a maximum of $100 ($70 US) or if things work out well it'd cost me nothing at all. Which brings me to question 3...
3) Should I 'upgrade'?
I know a lot of people don't consider it an 'upgrade' however for me personally I consider it entirely worth it for the GPU & multitouch alone. I brought my Nexus One excited of the idea of multi touch gaming and am guttered at how virtually any emulated or 3d game performs on my N1 (I was totally unaware of the lack of multi-touch when I brought the phone)
Also I'm interested in any sort of discussion on reasons for/against switching to a Galaxy S but please no NEXUS ONE IS BEST DIE IPHONE FANBOY GALAXY IS CHEAP PLASTIC crap. I love my Nexus but I feel the Galaxy better suits me.
Ok. I was probably one of the ones who was arguing in the other thread but I didnt start it. I got bashed because I said the Galaxy is the better phone.
Anyways Im not going down that road again. Ive got both phones at this moment and if your into gaming I say go to the Galaxy. Is the galaxy a way better phone, no, But what it has is definetely a upgrade. Ive said it before and ill say it again. On the sgs I never have to check my memory worrying about if I got enough room to install a new app, I used to check daily on my n1. I never ever check memory as I still got over 1.2 gigs left and about 120 apps installed. Gaming, Im not to into gaming as Im a 27 year old man, but when I do Id like to be able to play them well, and On the n1 it was a total failure. Toon warz would wig out when you shoot and run at the same time and when you let go of shooting it will still be shooting because of the axis problem. Pinch to zoom alone even in the browser isnt even as close to the SGS.
The super amoled is way better than regular amoled and makes it look like a TFT screen.
Im not gonna go into more about how the sgs beats the n1 cause ive done that enough, so Ill answer your question.
Hell yes I am, the SGS is the better device, by a lot? No, but enough for me to upgrade. The MT alone is enough for a upgrade and you wanna play games? well the SGS has no problem playing toon warz. I need a top device that can multitouch, and the N1 will never, ever be able to play MT games well. Even the old Iphone2g had better MT screen than the n1. I actually laugh at people who think the N1 handles 3d games as well as the SGS. Just not gonna happen. Go on youtube and watch on Android.com I believe the benchmarks vs SGS against droid x, evo and n1, the dude even plays asphalt and even the Video maker says that the SGS blows it all away.
Im not dogging the n1 cause im keeping mine, its a great phone and a great developer phone, but if you want gaming or for movies, the n1 is just not the device for that. The SGS sounds more like its what your looking for, True MT, More responsive for games, bigger screen and Waaaay brighter.
SGS FTW....
No hating on me this time please. The n1 is great, but common, the SGS out Specs it in almost all departments.
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
2) The GalaxyS has a getter GPU then the Nexus One (and most of the snapdragon phones to be fair) so the GalaxyS would most definitely play games better then the Nexus One.
3) It appears that 3D gaming is important to you, and if thats what you want the the GalxS phones should work great for you. Also the CPU is a smidgin' better on the GalxS then on the Nexus.
Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
I don't for a second believe Samsung will put the requisite priority on upgrading the OS to the latest Android. I think it will get upgraded, unlike the Behold II, but I don't think it'll happen for MONTHS after phones like the N1. Also, Touchwiz is hideous and changing to ADW or LP doesn't help with the cartoonish icons.
That being said, I AM jealous of the screen, processor, and multitouch sensor... just not enough to put myself into what I know will be a very frustrating position in a few months.
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Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
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I see what you're saying and I considered this as well however with my situation that I mentioned in the OP I currently have the opportunity to move to a Galaxy S with little or no cost, however when it comes to these next generation devices coming out later this year my Nexus will be worth a lot less and it will cost a lot more to upgrade to them.
I probably will buy a new device about mid way through next year and I will be willing to put more money into one then, however I don't want to (or mainly my girlfriend doesn't want me to ) put another few hundred into a phone in a few months time.
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That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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Pinch to peak is horrible on the n1. Funny thing is they added that while testing it on the n1. I guess they assumed no more clearpad 2000.
I love mt gestures as well. Feels futuristic.
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1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
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I believe phones work different over there how you buy them on contract and get them cheaper etc.
Here you just buy whatever phone and put a sim card in it, be it 'pre-pay' or 'on account'. So all phones are 'unlocked'
Looking on Amazon Galaxy S phones are listed for 670 USD?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Slot-International-Warranty/dp/B003U2T57E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283354829&sr=8-1
i am the owner of a nexus one. nearly all my phones have been from htc. i love the htc brand because of the community(xda). it is a fact everybody has to agree. an example the i5700 (comparable to the hero) but u can take a look yourself who got the better development... xperia x10 ...excellent hardware but no community support and they merely got root.
Is it an upgrade?
Hmmmm...arguable. Hardware- absolutely. the samsung i9000 is definetely an upgrade in terms of hardware but u have to keep in mind that it is 7 months newer than n1. both phones have their goods and bads. no phone is perfect. I said arguable because i am sure software wise that n1 is and will be superior. Most of us here like to flash roms, change builds..... this makes the difference (as i stated in the beginning).i do not think i9000 will get the support of this community. Just take a look at how many custom roms are present for i9000. Also at the end of the year , n1(google's developers phone) will definetely be gettting the gingerbread whereas the i9000 will be stuck on 2.2. remember that i9000 already got the upgrade from 2.1 to froyo ; so 2 upgrades for a phone is less likely. this is the policy of phones companies, instead of pushing an upgrade for the phone, they will release a new phone with gingerbread .
Is it worth?
i wont be upgrading the n1 until the 2gz or dualcore processors are out but It depends on u and ur means. Phones nowadays do not reign as a flsgship more than 3-4 months , maybe less. eg... desire hd will be out soon, then in Q2 2011, samsung is releasing a phone with 2gz processor with 1gb memory, ... android 4.0. If you have the money, ... ur choice.
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S
deeren said:
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
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I'm not entirely about gaming and I couldn't stand to buy an iPhone, many things about it disgust me. Such as a homescreen that is only an app draw!? How they deny flash, how they block countless applications, how I have to run iTunes to do anything.. argh I could go on forever. So iPhone is not for me, I love Android. As I said before however if it came down to it I think I like live backgrounds, multitouch gestures, large screens more than I like the development side... Very tough choice though.
[Q] Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S
Also on another note I believe Galaxy S series is soon going to become a Cyanogen Mod supported device which pretty much means it'll get all the development I need am I right in assuming this??
I mean, hell it even brought 2.2 to the G1! So I can assume if Cyanogen does a version 7 for 3.0 and Galaxy S is a supported device that I could eventually see 3.0 through Cyanogen Mod if Samsung never decided to do an update?
This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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haha yeah I saw that video the other day. The GPU is amazing in the Galaxy S phones, definitely in a league of its own at the moment.
If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
Galaxy TAB. Prob run same as the Galaxy S. Why go with 4" when you can have 7" screen. Wait and see tomorrow what the specs are going to be. Keep your n1 and wait for the TAB i say. I bought a captivate. Surely a great phone. I got frustrated with the development on the Captivate. I figured it will be that way. CM will be out but who knows when it will be released no word. I bet when a official froyo will be released they will release the CM6 as well. Gives them some time to work on it. If you really want to game and watch movie do it on a bigger screen. Why on a 4" screen. My n1 will hold up to what i need to do to survive a day without any laggs, glitch or whateva i throw at it. It runs like a champ. N1 will only be replaced by N1. Yeah not good for game but it will do everything else. So if you looking for a gamer type of phone, SGS is good to go but you will be without much development. Plus even with CM, i don't see ginerbread running on the SGS. My 2 cents.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Agreed!!!!! all galaxy s phones are not the same!
Also another point to be noted is that number of phones sold is not necessarily directly proportional to the development ...
e.g, 1. i guess that (like they say) nexus one is a flop in sales but however has had enormous activity in the development section.
2. Motorola milestone/droid had an enormous success in sales(also sold millions). but did it have the kind of development we are used to???
It all comes to whether Samsung will improve their security on the bootloader bla bla bla on their froyo upgrade. and depends whether the quality chefs are shifting to the sgs or not.
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Correct, but they will be easy to cross mod since most the files and codes are alike, yes they will require different Roms and etc, but if the epic 4g can do something chances are the others can with a slightly different way.
i was browsing the web and i found an interesting video showing the htc magic running ios 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-uRRCARJw
i was thinking that our sgs has almost the same spec as the iphone 4(processor, amount of rom and ram), it would be possible to dump ios 4 on it ! that would definetly decrease the sell of iphone 4 ! with the 4 inch SA screen ios apps and games would rock on the sgs !
i also believe that the sgs has the most powerful HW , here is the GL benchmark results showing sgs on top of other phones followed by the iphone
http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp
The biggest problem would be the resolution. The iphone 4 resolution is 960x640 and our SGS is only 800x400.
So porting iOS 4 to a SGS, sounds very dificult.
Looks fake but a very good (not nice) theme.
why would I want to do that
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why would I want to do that
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Exactly…
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Billus said:
Looks fake but a very good (not nice) theme.
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Android has been up and running on older iPhones for a few months now via dualbooting (iBoot).
Got to remember however that Android is designed to run on a variety of hardware configurations.
iOS is NOT designed to run on anything without specific Apple-selected hardware. Drivers would need to be created for each component of each phone, the resolution would need to be the same, it would need to be able to sync with iTunes to use, etc. Basically, far too much bother.
I would be more interested in the possibilities of WP7 or Meego (or maybe WebOS in the future?...) ports since they're available for lots of hardware configurations. Particularly WP7, since the Galaxy S seems to share the exact hardware requirements for the first generation of WP7 devices launching next month, including those by Samsung.
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why would I want to do that
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I bought the SGS after choosing that I wanted an android phone. I didn't pick this phone and then settled for the os that came with it.
Even if legit, why would you want to do that? If you want iOS get an iPhone, it would run better on the hardware it was designed for anyway.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
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agree
I bought this phone to own it and do whatever i want with it. On the iOS, certain Mr Jobs always have a noose around your neck with 5 updates a year...
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As far as I remember that video is fake, and it was done so that an iPhone's screen was captured with some program and then played with the HTC. The guy admittedly had to record the video a couple of times by the time he managed to synchronise his finger movement to the video playing on the HTC.
I agree with the most committed Android fans here, why the hell would we want to have iOS??? Like most we made the decision for freedom and choice and to be able to create and share our own content, not just consume.
However, I am curious to know if there is a way to get IPA's to work on Android. The market is a little short on well polished games so it would be great to see if there is a way to get them onto the current generation of Android devices.
"why not"
cause "you can"
a hack is a hack, it's fun, doesn't mean you should replace android by ios for daily use. still, i'd try it for fun.
now, the video is prolly a fake anyway, but hey, you never know
Its coming out on april 1st next year a leaked samsung doc said
I was introduced to Android by installing Froyo on my iPhone 3G and dual booting it with iOS4. It made me want to sell the iPhone and get a "real" Android phone since the battery only lasted 90 mins in Froyo and it was seriously underpowered (but still faster than my mate's Magic).
Like hell, am I ever going back to iOS! To any of you who haven't previously owned an iPhone, trust me when I say that you aren't missing out on anything. Tweaking or customising anything in iOS on supported hardware was a pain in the back-side. Porting it to another device would be an absolute nightmare and really not worth the hassle!
"Why would I want to" and the like really don't add value to the conversation, dudes...
I was tempted to jump into the "can I run WM7 on the SGS" thread with the same childish smart ass comment, but took the mature path and just didn't bother reading the thread at all. Despite not being able to fathom why someone would want to, it's a legitimate technical question to ask if someone is interested in doing it.
Why the hate????
I've always known the guys at xda doing awesome things to their mobile phones, just because they can.
It's this "because we can" and "can we do this" attitude that has built xda from nothing to something very brilliant.
Had we not had such enterprising members, we'd never become the no. 1 andorid hackers in the world.
There is not a single forum that is as good and as xda.
Anyways I am very interested in this project. Dual booting the iOs is still awesome.
It's not a bad idea at all although it will take years before anything ever boots.
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I agree with the most committed Android fans here, why the hell would we want to have iOS??? Like most we made the decision for freedom and choice and to be able to create and share our own content, not just consume.
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Agreed, I left iFail due to it being locked down by Dictator Jobs. However playing/hacking is fun but I wouldnt want to use it as an everyday device.
lets see what comes first, ios on sgs or duke nukem forever...
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lets see what comes first, ios on sgs or duke nukem forever...
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haha, nice one!
Hey everyone, i was looking online about the GPU of the Captivate VS. The Iphone 4. If what i read was correct, the captivate has a much better GPU than the iphone. The only thing i was wondering, is will there ever be a real use of this?
I personally would love to have some of the games that are on the iphone on my captivate.
For example, super monkey ball, or those new games coming out by epic games and ID. They have truly astonishing graphics and look really really awesome.
And as a side question, there would be no easy way of porting an ios game to android or running ios on the captivate, right?
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Hey everyone, i was looking online about the GPU of the Captivate VS. The Iphone 4. If what i read was correct, the captivate has a much better GPU than the iphone. The only thing i was wondering, is will there ever be a real use of this?
I personally would love to have some of the games that are on the iphone on my captivate.
For example, super monkey ball, or those new games coming out by epic games and ID. They have truly astonishing graphics and look really really awesome.
And as a side question, there would be no easy way of porting an ios game to android or running ios on the captivate, right?
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It's upto the game developers to take their skills onto android. I hope they will, but android should at least get rid of paid apps piracy in order for that to happen (same thing with iPhone's jailbreaking, but I don't know how the devs there are still staying with iOS)
Is piracy a problem on Android? It was all over the iPhone community but I've never seen a mention of it here. Anytime anyone mentions it no one thinks it's remotely a good idea because of how open Android is, a pirated app could access any of your data and do whatever it wanted.
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Is piracy a problem on Android? It was all over the iPhone community but I've never seen a mention of it here. Anytime anyone mentions it no one thinks it's remotely a good idea because of how open Android is, a pirated app could access any of your data and do whatever it wanted.
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Unfortunately, it is an issue. Some of the newby XDA members don't read the rules and have been posting links and downloads to apps that they shouldn't be. There's already a few websites set up that perform the same function as Appulo.us and Apptrackr do for the iPhone. And let's not forget the dozens of torrents that are out there. And a pirated app can do the same thing on an iPhone in regards to your data, there have already been a couple cases if I recall about apps "calling home" with your data.
Its becouse they make good money on the ios platform so they dont give a **** about android. Simple
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that doesnt make sense because there are more android phones than iphones. i think there aren't enough android phones with great gpus quite yet. there are the galaxy s series which are still relitively unknown and not as well recognised as the droid x and iphone. the the droid xz while better than the evo in 3d is still only about half of what the galaxy s phones are doing. the other phones that are near galaxy s performance in that area are the g2 and mytouch 4g which are faster in other areas, but both being on t-mobile restricts the userbase. i think that the gaming will pick up with the introduction of of more htc phones built with the newwer qualcom chips and the introduction of more android tabs. so all in all we will likely be looking at buying our next phones before we take full advantage of this one.
there are already good ports from the pc of older games like quake and doom but the touchscreen controls aren't that good. may be better with a bluetooth game pad.
Hey peeps and SGS owners. How many of you get the usual "iPhone 4 just works," "the iPhone is so much faster," "iPhone don't feel buggy," and the infamous "why didn't you get iPhone 4 instead?" comments from iPhags around you? I personally get them almost everyday.
Jeez, leave us alone. I mean, really? It just works? I bet you spend an hour trying to sort your music files into iTunes. I merely drag and drop. It's faster? Yeah, cause it's simply app pages. I get that smoothness without widgets. Feel buggy? Well, guess what, I customise my whole system myself, kernels, filesystems, roms. Why I didn't get the iPhone? Cause I simply chose not to.
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Good night fellas. Sorry had some boosts and it's 4 in the morning now. I don't know, just a bad day.
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seriously dude....iphone 4 just works
(just tryin to screw around with your head )
Problem is, it doesn't.
You have to admit (and if u don't you you self are a fag) that iphones are good bits of kit and shouldn't be flamed just for being an "iphone". It's the users of iphones who are the novices who think if it aint an iphone it's junk
But saying that my boss brought me his iphone4 it was totally dead it was fine batt was almost full and just died. I then did a google and found litterally hundrends and hundreds of posts similar to the on below
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11766746
So when ppl tell u their phone is th dog bollox and nothing does compare then show em threads like above.
At the end of the day i can see the benefits of both systems.
People say iphones work, well yes they do. But that's because apple have locked the thing down so hard it doesn't get the chance not to work. Iphones were designed for people who just want stuff to work and be simple.
People say android is buggy, etc. Well yeah at certain times things don't work as planned. But it normally gets fixed in no time. And on the plus side android seems capable of much more than ios.
Iphone is for coffee shop gurus.
Android is for people more than computer literate.
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Ironically, most of the comments I got from iPhone's owner is: Good to see there's something else. But then, they know I wouldn't put my money on an apple thinggy!
And I agree that iPhone is for the "Wanabe" geek as a new gizmo to show off with.
Android is for the reel geeks that uses the thing!
I completely agree with OP hell I even had my grandad trying to say the Iphone 4 just worked so I just death gripped it soon shut him up plus showed him about a dozen apps you'd have to pay for the I phone equivalents that do just work gnu/gpl ftw
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Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time. Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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QFT my friend!
Wow, you guys are sensible. For once, I get comments that are not on a whole unjust to one side only. Haha. I don't hate iPhone 4, I just hate iOS and the users. I like the hardware though. Yeah, like communists. That's right!
And then, there's also jailbroken iPhone users. They think they are on top of the world with jailbreak.
How does this thread end up in Q&A? There should be a miscellaneous section for SGS users.
I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
Android are easy use but if you have to mod everything yourself, its very technical but possible. Thats why thanks to people here, most of the hard yack are already done for you.
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I don't get all the people that claim Android's are for technical people or "real geeks". That's a load of crap, Android is just as easy to use. It never forces you into the technical stuff.
Homescreens and the notification bar are two reasons I'd never leave Android for iOS. Just makes it so much nicer to use for me.
iPhones are great and all, but over hyped. They just have great marketing.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
okpc said:
Iphone is like a communist state, you're not allowed to do this and that. Mr Jobs is like a dictator, dictating how one would use their phone. Its like freedom from a set of choice. Jailbroken your iphone is like capital punishment. Are you tired of generic home screen on the iphone? Android is democracy, do what like. Everytime people saw my galxyS with all the mods, its like a north korean saw a car for the first time.
Sheeps use iphone, real people use android.
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Good post, okpc +1
It's not so much that android is for more technical people, but rather, it's for more adventurous people. Sure, the iphone has its jailbreak, but even the freedom that affords is limited. With android, the potential for personal customization is as limited as your uber-geek skills.
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I actually do think that android's are for more technically inclined people. The one thing about iphones is that they are simple. There are minimal bugs, and minimal number of configs. Other people can solve their problems quickly, and you won't have issues with incompatible apps and so on..
And a phone should be like its user.. Android users are more complex
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It's simple if you have apple gear.. The moment you have any flacs or other formats, things get tricky.
I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
When iphone users look at my galaxy s they normally say "it's very like the iphone" to which I always reply "yah it is....... Only better"
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Good that people have a choice nowadays ....
There was a time where no smartphone could compete with the iPhone, even after it been over 2 years on the market.
But you can say whatever you want about Apple .. they have a very sophisticated sense for clean and functional design. Be it the hardware or the software. They have very strict design guidelines, and thats the reason the apps are often looking more polished.
So, for people who are very visually-orientated, iPhone would be a natural choice. For the tech-savy folks, Android is the clear winner.
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I came from an iPhone and the Galaxy S is my first Android device.
iPhone, well generally it works but it's really tied down... until you jailbreak it and throw all sorts of funky stuff from Cydia/Rock with fancy MobileSubstrate stuff. But it's still very uncomparable to what Android has to offer once you do the customizing.
Android in general(I guess?), is for generally more technically inclined or as someone mentioned, adventurous personals. I've seen friends with an Android device and let me tell you, they are MOSTLY very heavily modded with custom ROMs/Kernels... you name it!
So an Android device by itself, is like a jailbroken iPhone. A rooted Android with custom ROMs/Kernels is... asdfghjkl;kjhgfd - sorry, I was wiping jizz off my keyboard.
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LOL that last part! Too excited huh... XD
Oh yeah, I was a iPhone user as well. Dated back to iPod Video era, then to iPod 2G, iPhone 3GS, but I skipped iPhone 4, that's when Android came in. People start to realise that there are other smartphones worth keeping, not symbian btw.
I completely understand why Google did this but one thing I liked about the N5 was how it had features other phones didn't. One big one just went bye-bye. http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/the-go...ailable-for-almost-all-modern-android-phones/
GNL has been available for other devices for a while now.
The apk has been floating around the web since the N5 was released or shortly there after.
I still think the nexus line of devices are still very unique in that they get the fastest updates and developer support is second to none!
If there is a particular developer's work you like to follow, make sure to support him/her to show them your appreciation! :thumbup:
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Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
This has been available for a while now. I was running it on my Galaxy Nexus back in the day and, when it hit Google Play, many GPE devices were able to install it too. Now it’s even available on a lowly iPhone (some more detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Now).
I'll file this thread under "slow news day."
Honestly I hardly ever used the GNL
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
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Yeah good point. I mean I'm over it now lol. I remember being a bit upset about the lens blur. Even though a lot of cameras have that feature already.
The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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This. I actually don't like it at all. Nova all the way.
I hated the exclusive feature of GEL or GNL whatever it's called. Let it be open to all(without side loading)
Why are you upset that others have the option of the launcher ... Sorry but that seems childish
O.T. Less unique is also impossible. Something is either unique or not. There is no halfway.
You bought a phone with unlimited customization capabilities and you whine that the stock launcher for it, the phone that is the DEVELOPMENT device, for the entire Android ecosystem, has been made available to other Android devices?
First World Privilege Problems?
Kids these days...
The nexus series is always unique as it always gets the latest & the greatest android. Google had no plan of making the launcher a nexus 5 only thing. Even in the worst case, I'm sure Google would have at least supported the launcher on the older nexus phones officially. All of it was a part of Google's plan. First they saw how people received the launcher on the nexus 5. Following all the hype, they eventually made it available to all the devices out there.
Remember, Google's primary aim is to make all of its services available to all of its users. That's why they built android. They used android to reach their users & to make their services available to them easily & efficiently.
This really only applies to most of us that mod or like to customize our phones. IMO those people probably already use GOOGLE NOW Launcher anyways on whatever custom ROM they are running. I really dont see how this makes the phone less unique. Apps are not unique, the actual phone is what makes it unique than other phones on the market.
my 2 cents