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I use ActiveSync. But it is 2 slow. A friend of mind told me that Storage Card could turn to hard drive - how this is possible ?
You can insert your Micro SD card (w/ SD adapter) into a card reader and insert that into your USB port.
Much more faster/convenient that way.
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I use ActiveSync. But it is 2 slow. A friend of mind told me that Storage Card could turn to hard drive - how this is possible ?
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the program many people use and include in many roms here is wmstorage, which works pretty well, but again its still limited to your device's usb speed which for the most part is 1.1.
that way is definately faster (removing card and using reader), but i find that if i have programs installed on the card and i remove it to transfer, then put back into the phone, those programs installed on the card no longer work properly. i would need to soft reset everytime. kind of annoying
I don'f find it easy everytime when I want to put some mp3s or just 1 .avi or 2, to remove the stick.
And now I read that it works also with car audio system that has USB - that's really great
Huh?
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that way is definately faster (removing card and using reader), but i find that if i have programs installed on the card and i remove it to transfer, then put back into the phone, those programs installed on the card no longer work properly. i would need to soft reset everytime. kind of annoying
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Wait a second ... are you removing the SD card while the phone is on and running? Y-I-K-E-S.
You might want to try turning the phone off, then removing your card, adding whatever you want onto the card, reinserting, and turning it back on.
i never did any such thing
there are only 2 things to take any spc actions before removing removable media
from both pc and pda
1 something is being written to it but still located in the write cache
2 a program is running directly from the flash
Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
Are you sure? If you click on "memory" in "settings" the first screen you get ("main" tab) only refers to the ROM and RAM available. You need to click on the "storage card" tab to find the 4Gb of internal storage
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Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
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I am experiencing the same issue with the Sprint version I received today. Same issue with the Clear Storage program. When I go to settings, memory, storage card, it says "Total Storage Card Memory: Not installed"
Thanks.
Can you find the internal storage using file explorer on the HTC and explorer on activsync on your PC? Have you suceeded in copying something to it using activsync? If you can it is there. Why it is not being reported in memory is not so clear
A problem which I had a few times ocured when I tried to start a programm on the internal storage whil it was conected to a pc as a internal storage then the Diamond gives the internal storage a other name such as internal storage 1, 2 etc
Have a look at your file explorer you maid find it there.
Willem
Slight variation on this topic but related.
Can someone tell me if there are hidden files or something similar on the internal storage?
When I look at All settings -> system -> memory, it says that there is 2725MB in use but if I total the individual values for each folder in my internal storage it only adds up to 2122MB. It's driving me mad as space is limited enough as it is...
In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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A good point. To give you an example of how this works. I installed TT6 by putting my (legitimate) CAB file maps etc onto the internal memory by setting it as a USB device and using drag and drop in Explorer. The moment I disconnected the phone from the PC it re-recognised the internal memory and ran the TomTom auto-installation app. It is exactly the same as inserting an SD card into an SD slot of any other PDA.
Having same issue. I deleted the contents and the folder Internal Storage and am doing a hard reset. Will post results.
BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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I think you may have misunderstood what we are saying. This problem only occurs when you choose the (non-default) option of the PC recognising the internal storage as a seperate USB drive rather than as an activsync connection when you make your connection to the PC. If you choose that option then no automatic activsync activity will occur when you dock because activsync will not start. On the other hand file transfers will be much quicker and easier and you can use drag and drop in your PC's explorer.
If you decide not to use this facility then activsync works fine and you should have no problems with automated syncing and unplugging whilst that is happening (although that latter action is not recomended with either Windows or Apple based phones or PDAs).
The main advantage that Windows based PDAs and phones have over Apple based ones are that they are much more easily changed (as most of these forums show!) and "tweaked" to suit what the end user wants. Apple is more "technology for technophobes". However the disadvantage with the Windows system is that there is more for the end user to bugger up - hence all the cries for help on this forum.
No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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You remount it by returning the HTC to its standard activsync setting, via its settings menu You can do that while it is still connected to the PC and when you hit OK activsync instantly starts and syncs. In addition Explorer recognises it as a mobile device rather than the removable storage when it was in USB mode.
I do not think it is correct to compare an additional Windows feature (that the Apple does not have) with the standard feature that the Apple does have. A more accurate comparison would be the two in the same activsync mode, in which case they are similar, and neither has this problem
At the end of the day if anybody does not like the extra facility the HTC has to show and use its internal storage in the same way as a memory card when hooked up to the PC (because of its disadvantages) then they should not use it and they should stick with activsync. At least in Windows world we have the option.
WOW!
Dropping the ipod reference and my apologies for stepping on toes by mentioning it.
Setting it to active sync or hard drive has NO affect on this what so ever. I wish it did as it would be an easy fix. Apparently during any kind of disconnect the memory module freaks out and it corrupts the file system. That is apparently why the phone will not recognize it. Some people have had success connecting the phone over and over to a computer until it mounts the drive and then via the computer they format the drive and then hard reset and its fixed.
In this case its very similar as the HTC device will not remount the memory module. I contacted HTC and they verified that its a problem and have recommended an RMA to sprint.
Personally I don't even buy the HTC response. There has to be a way to remount the memory back to the phone as the drive will occasionally show up even in windows. It just wont allow a format as it locks up.
Oops sorry if I sounded a tad touchy... . I really did not mean to upset.
It is just that I think that Apple are really good at marketing to the "cool fool" market, and persuading people that they are technologically more advanced than they really are. The classic example of this is the iphone that was trumpetted as having lots of "new" benefits, which had been on other competitor's phones for ages. The only thing cutting edge about them is their ease of use (which is I have to admit very good)
However I do not have the problem you are describing with my HTC touch diamond, and nor, I suspect, do the vast majority of other users. My memory module has never freaked out and corrupted my file system no matter how many times I connect or disconnect and no matter how I do it. So I suspect it is not a universal HTC problem, but one limited to the way that Sprint and maybe others (I assume in the US?) have implemented the software, or maybe on a rogue batch of hardware or software?
No worries...text does that some times.
Yeah I think its pretty much a US thing. PPCGEEKS has a thread going about it and it appears to be all sprint phone related.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=37485
So far what I have is this: When using file explorer, under My Device Is a folder called Internal Storage. When I go into settings to check memory, I have Storage & Program, 102.55MB and 203.84MB, respectively, that's Total. In the Storage card tab, it says Not installed. And when i try to clear storage and format internal storage it says "no Mass Storage found"
So I hopped over to PPC and this is what I found, unfortunately i'm going to work so no time but will try and report later on.
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Ok, here is what worked for me.
Hard reset - Connect to PC, Once connected as a USB Drive, VERY IMPORTANT - Don't try to open drive, only right click.
Choose Format, FAT32, Quick Format. It took about 5 seconds, then soft reset and it is up right now... We will see.
No go, Vista won't recognize my diamond as a drive hence no format...
I now know what I did wrong, I copied the internal storage to pc then back again using the disk function instead of AS. I now have internal storage2 showing and can't access any programs.
Can anyone tell me how to rename I.S.2 to I.S please.
delete the Internal Storage folder (which will just be a folder) with total commander, resco explorer or file explorer, then connect ur phone to ur pc in disk mode, then disconnect and it should rename back!
I have an ATT Tilt that I'm still running WM 5 on. (Correction: it is actually WM 6) I am having some trouble with some corrupt files showing up on my memory card. I went so far as to buy a new memory card and removed several 3rd party apps that I had installed. Even after this, the files returned on the new card. I cannot access or delete them. I cannot tell which files are being corrupted, I assume they are program and documents that should be otherwise usable. The file names show up as a series of squares, other odd shapes, numbers and letters.
Some of the 3rd party apps I am using are
Total Commander
WMWifiRouter (added after this problem started)
Google Maps and Mobile Apps
Opera Mini
I haven't made any alterations to ROM or anything else.
Any help would be appreciated on how to proceed in clearing this up. One app that I notice is affected is "Notes". I have lost some data that I had saved in that.
Thanks!
How did you get windows mobile 5 on it?
I have the same problem from time to time. There is no real fix that I have found. What I think is happening is, the phone is reading/writing to the memory card, and either it stops (beause you put the phone to sleep, or soft reset it) or some other method. Since the file was never closed/finished correctly, it gets curroped. I strongly recommend backing up your SD card every month or 2. That way, when things do crash, you do not lose all your files.
Last time it crashed. I hard reset the phone, and re-formated the sd card in my PC. It has been 3 months and so far no problems. Maybe you can try that...
Oops my mistake I have WM 6
CE OS 5.c.1622
Sorry
other things to check or try changing include:
1. the brand of the micro sd card
2. any power saving settings that might be getting applied to the micro sd card (in my opinion, power saving settings are notorious for such behavior and my advice is to just disable any power saving settings for the micro sd card/slot)
3. your usage habits regarding closing programs. my recommendation is to CLOSE programs (as opposed to MINIMIZING them to the background) when you are done using them.
4. how/when you remove the card from the device (if you ever do) and/or how you remove the card from your desktop/laptop (if you occasionally use a card reader). on your desktop/laptop, it is advised to "Safely remove hardware" before physically removing the card from the card reader. on your device, it is advised to close all programs that might be accessing files from the card, wait a few seconds, and then remove the card. most people will suggest shutting down the device before removing the card but it is my understanding that the card slots in the kaiser are indeed hot swappable (i've been using it that way for almost 2 years and have never experienced any issues with my 8GB sandisk).
5. getting a card reader is highly recommended, especially if you want to try to recover lost data or to repair the file system on the card. as a bonus, the card reader will also allow nearly 5 to 10 times faster read/write access when transferring files onto/off the card from your desktop/laptop as compared to activesync via usb sync cable.
6. avoid setting your programs to use the card as "cache". example, some people like to set their browsers' cache folders to the storage card. this can also cause file system errors in some rare and remote scenarios.
all these portable devices (phones, digital cameras, mp3 players) use the fragile FAT32 format as their file system but i've always hoped that M$ would some day provide an alternative file system (something like NTFS without its security features perhaps to keep things simple for the pda phone), but alas that day has yet to come!
Try copying all your files to your computer (in case something happens)and run an error check from your PC with a card reader. Right click on the card in Windows Explorer (if you have Windows), choose Properties, then choose the Tools tab, then click Error Check, and run the check.
had the same problem, lost all my programs. I copied a very old back up over to the card . once I had done that the original files reappeared.
ok well im trying to clean off my 8 gb micro sd card so im copying all the files to my desktop, well every so often i get the error "cannot convert file(random file) reached the end of the file" iv tried changing the name, file type, the only thing i can do is delete it or leave it, now i can run the cab file and it works fine from my phone. Iv tried to use my usb card reader and tower card reader but niether will even read my card, anyone have any ideas on why this is happening &/ or have to fix this, iv had the card for a couple years and never any problems and this tilt almost a year any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated , thanks
btw i just noticed something new why is this [OP] next to some names and icons now, didnt notice it before
the "[OP]" next to a person's name within a thread being viewed indicates that this person started the thread you are viewing, i.e. he/she is the "original poster" or some such.
regarding your problem, i assume you are stuck with using activesync to access your microsd card (because you say no card reader will read the card)? when microsd cards start acting up, most people will suggest sticking it into your pc via a card reader to copy files and run data recovery software and to eventually reformat the card. once again, i am assuming this is out of the question because your card readers will not see the data on the card.
activesync's file system access is sufficient but not very flexible and fairly poor. i have noticed that the remote desktop client on windows mobile is able to make your device's microsd card available to the pc you are connected to via remote desktop during the entire session. you might want to attempt a copy via this kind of a connection.
another alternate is to try "schap's network plugin". this will allow you to map a folder shared on your pc (remember to give this folder full write access) onto your device's \Network folder. then you can freely copy/paste stuff to/from your pc using the device's file explorer.
final option is to copy problematic files on to your device's memory and see if activesync is able to read from the device's memory. this is really only feasible if the largest problematic file can fit into the limited free space available on the device's memory.
when you are completely done and satisfied with the files you have recovered, stick the card back into the card readers connected to your pc and see if you can get the card reformatted while its in there even though the current file system/data on the card is not being detected.
finally, remember that most microsd cards (like nearly all other things) have a limited life...so maybe the card just needs to be replaced with a spanking new one now.
Hi!
I need any ideas about how to approach problem from subj.
I got Diamond with screen physically destroyed, but phone booting up and can make/receive calls ok. All I need is get pim.vol out to restore all contacts from it. Biggest problem is that phone was set into StorageMode (Cardreader) by default, so it is not even asking when plugged in to PC.
Any ideas on how to make it into ActiveSync mode w/o hard reset and losing all contacts?
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More I think about it now, I probably can create 2577 (or whatever number works on Diamond??) folder on storage card and put autorun.exe (MortScript probably) into it which will enable ActiveSync. Can someone with Diamond handy find out which values in registry do that?
Thanks!
You could use MyMobiler to access it using PC, but it needs active sync :S
All the ideas I could have need to access the main memory.
Hi
I wrote a program which copies pim.vol to the root of the Internal Storage.
Simply extract the zip after connecting the Diamond (make sure it is unpacked with folders!) and disconnect the ppc. Wait a while, then connect again. You should be able to get pim.vol to your computer.
Its worked!
Thank you so much, kosherpig!
Its worked and I got all stuff restored! Awesome!
Extract data from device w/ dead screen?
I'm not really concerned about anything but the pictures and videos which were stored in device memory. (When it started acting flaky I immediately copied my SD card but I couldn't get it to mount properly before the screen went totally black).
So, the device is not mounting when I plug it in but it is sending/receiving phone calls.
Can I write a script that would allow me to "force" it to mount so I can see the device's internal memory?
kosherpig,
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! with the use of those 2 zip files, i was able to retrieve my pim.vol file from my broken diamond. you dont know how long and despondent i was over the thought of not being able to retrieve all my contacts...this def teaches me a lesson to backup my address book religiously. thank you again!
Could you not use the start key & d-pad to toggle to activesync for USB mode in settings & then using mymobiler you would have full control of your Diamond via connected PC !
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Hi
I wrote a program which copies pim.vol to the root of the Internal Storage.
Simply extract the zip after connecting the Diamond (make sure it is unpacked with folders!) and disconnect the ppc. Wait a while, then connect again. You should be able to get pim.vol to your computer.
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Hello, I've got the similar problem as the orignal poster.
My phone is HTC Touch HD running WM6.1
The touch screen became unresponsive to touch (tried a bunch of stuff to fix it), but showing everything just fine.
So I settled with that fact that it's going to the trash bin and decided to figure a way of getting my contacts out.
The device is set to run in Storage Mode upon connection to PC, meaning it can't Active Sync.
I can't see any Pim.vol in several browsers and managers, from regultar win explorer to total commander. It shows Album.vol file tho.
I've copied the files provided and everything would be fine.. but the phone asked for confirmation if I want to allow running that programm. I would have pressed YES, but... I can't.
Is there any sane way to bypass that confirmation? Thanks in advance.
Hey kosherpig,
I copied the Zip files and extracted them in the root of storage card of my WM6.1 ASUS p750. disconnected the USB connection and connected again, No hopes for the PIM.VOL.
Did I missed something in this...I am in Serious Trouble as My 7 years ongoing contacts are on stack with this Dead screen phone..
Please Help..
Nanovsky said:
Hello, I've got the similar problem as the orignal poster.
My phone is HTC Touch HD running WM6.1
The touch screen became unresponsive to touch (tried a bunch of stuff to fix it), but showing everything just fine.
So I settled with that fact that it's going to the trash bin and decided to figure a way of getting my contacts out.
The device is set to run in Storage Mode upon connection to PC, meaning it can't Active Sync.
I can't see any Pim.vol in several browsers and managers, from regultar win explorer to total commander. It shows Album.vol file tho.
I've copied the files provided and everything would be fine.. but the phone asked for confirmation if I want to allow running that programm. I would have pressed YES, but... I can't.
Is there any sane way to bypass that confirmation? Thanks in advance.
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Hello. I have the same problem here (can't click on "yes" when prompt to execute). Is anyone has a solution for this issue ?