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When ice cream sandwich will be out, will HTC roll out the update to the IS also?
Or only the sensation is going to enjoy the new OS?
No one has said anything about any device, it is far to early to speculate
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When ice cream sandwich will be out, will HTC roll out the update to the IS also?
Or only the sensation is going to enjoy the new OS?
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Is Sensation built on ice cream? I didn't think so, first I've heard of it
New version of sense, but don't think new version of android
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RellikZephyr said:
Is Sensation built on ice cream? I didn't think so, first I've heard of it
New version of sense, but don't think new version of android
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I didnt mean to say that the sensation is built on ice cream. I meant that because sensation is the 1st dual core phone of HTC and ofcourse their flagship phone, then i was asking if when ice cream is out, HTC will update the sensation with it and not their other devices also
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I didnt mean to say that the sensation is built on ice cream. I meant that because sensation is the 1st dual core phone of HTC and ofcourse their flagship phone, then i was asking if when ice cream is out, HTC will update the sensation with it and not their other devices also
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Ah righto
Yeah I think they will definitely update it, how long it might take is the real question. Will it be quick or not
Rellikzephyr
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f the Nexus S gets Ice Cream Sandwich, which it will, I'm pretty sure the Incredible S will get Ice Cream Sandwich since they have similar specs.
I wouldn't even think about Ice Cream Sandwhich when HTC hasn't even pushed out Gingerbread to all the Incredible S's.
only time will tell, HTC's gone slow.
If anything, HTC is faster than it used to be. I waited 8 months for a 2.1 update on my Hero from the first announcement to actual delivery. It's been less that half that for the IS.
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Does anyone know if there has been any news about ICS and the IS?
I am hoping that the update might fix my random reboot problem I have with my IS
Even if HTC doesn't give official support for it (Ice Cream Sandwhich), 3rd party developers such as CyanogenMod would probably port it over. Since the Nexus S will surely get the OTA update, it's a good guess that the Incredible S would be able to run it as well.
My $0,02.
There is no way in hell we'll get ics, these phones were never designed to run anything over gb and sense 3.0. From what we've seen from our development teams it will be ported over from another handset providing that something with similar specs gets the update.
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Even if HTC doesn't give official support for it (Ice Cream Sandwhich), 3rd party developers such as CyanogenMod would probably port it over. Since the Nexus S will surely get the OTA update, it's a good guess that the Incredible S would be able to run it as well.
My $0,02.
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I dont understand why you would wait 8 months for HTC to release the update when you can get now?
HTC IS is still on 2.3.3 and why hasn't it been updated to 2.3.7?
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I dont understand why you would wait 8 months for HTC to release the update when you can get now?
HTC IS is still on 2.3.3 and why hasn't it been updated to 2.3.7?
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Well I can't talk on the behalf of HTC, but I can only say that I wasn't the one waiting for them... I'm rockin' on 2.3.7
And plan to be rockin' on 4.0 when the time comes
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I dont understand why you would wait 8 months for HTC to release the update when you can get now?
HTC IS is still on 2.3.3 and why hasn't it been updated to 2.3.7?
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Hardly any phones have been updated to 2.3.7...
Only nexus phones afaik
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Hardly any phones have been updated to 2.3.7...
Only nexus phones afaik
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I thought that the android updates were like the IOS ones where they added features and patched bugs. So you should be on the latest firmware?
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I thought that the android updates were like the IOS ones where they added features and patched bugs. So you should be on the latest firmware?
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It doesn't really work like that..
2. 3.7 was mostly about adding nfc chip capabilities
are you trying to jump infront of time with a time machine? even nexus prime hasn't been announced yet and now you're already wanting to know whether incredible s gets ICS.
take a chill pill, we'll all know when time comes.
I've been with HTC device since 2001 (my old Wallaby....), but I'm really annoyed by HTC behaviour: instead of releasing a phone once a week they should really take care and support their devices and their customer.
I became very lazy and I haven't yet installed a custom rom on my IS (yet), but thanx God, there are people like the CyanogenMod team that helps us keeping our devices up to date.
Thanx folks.
I do not think the problem is whether the device was designed for ICS or not. It's just too expensive to build, test and support all the devices they are putting into the market.
Regards,
I don't know why people are moaning so much, what other phones have official ICS right now? That's right, just one.
Have patience, HTC are one of the better companies with regards to updates. Samsung are terrible.
Just saw the news, share with everyone.
List:
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
And it said this will take 2-4 months of time.
source plz?
Are you serious? Must of these phones are not even dual core and ICS is optimized for multi-core devices.
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I'll believe it once there's a source attached...
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Are you serious? Must of these phones are not even dual core and ICS is optimized for multi-core devices.
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That isn't true at all.....
They said almost any phone running gb could handle ics. The only real spec was a decent gpu
would be nice if you posted your source though if it is true ICS would be sexy on my incs
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source plz?
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HTC announced this in Chinese language. I guess a English source will be found in next couple of days.
few extra:
HTC also said the most of the developing time will be spent on building the sense UI into new system. The newer devices retail later than 2011 MAY will get the update sooner than the older device like DHD. And some devices like HTC Amaze 4G,Thunderbolt, will get the update in much later time. (i think they mean more than 4 months)
This is a direct translation, sry for my baaaad english. i dont remember IS came out before or after MAY 2011?
kylechen said:
HTC announced this in Chinese language. I guess a English source will be found in next couple of days.
few extra:
HTC also said the most of the developing time will be spent on building the sense UI into new system. The newer devices retail later than 2011 MAY will get the update sooner than the older device like DHD. And some devices like HTC Amaze 4G,Thunderbolt, will get the update in much later time. (i think they mean more than 4 months)
This is a direct translation, sry for my baaaad english. i dont remember IS came out before or after MAY 2011?
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Hi I totally new here this is my first post =D
Can you at least post the source where you get them from? I can read chinese anyway =D
thanks
This is an excerpt from endgadget on the 4th of November.
HTC
Official statements:
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.
From AT&T: We plan for both the Vivid and Galaxy S II Skyrocket to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich.
Confirmed: HTC Rezound HTC Vivid Denied: Nexus One
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...andwich/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Thanks for the source of link =)
@beertime
that source doesnt mention incredible s, only htc rezound and htc vivid
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@beertime
that source doesnt mention incredible s, only htc rezound and htc vivid
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I think that was his point... lol
op is talking out of his a$$
scoobysnacks said:
I think that was his point... lol
op is talking out of his a$$
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exactly on my mind lol
scoobysnacks said:
I think that was his point... lol
op is talking out of his a$$
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lol the first time i saw this news was from a chinese forum thread. so i didn't bother to give that source coz i was waiting for a english source to come out.
Its a htc statement made to chinese technicians media. now it can be found on many IT news and phone forums.
http://bbs.gfan.com/redirect.php?tid=3078960&goto=lastpost
http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/160929.htm
scoobysnacks said:
That isn't true at all.....
They said almost any phone running gb could handle ics. The only real spec was a decent gpu
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Dude, ICS is optimized for multi-core phones because Gingerbread or Froyo do not use more than one core. There are certain apps and games out there that use all cores but that's another story.
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I'm confused, Does anyone know if Incredible S will taste ICS one day ?
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I'm confused, Does anyone know if Incredible S will taste ICS one day ?
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There is no question that ICS will be on the Incredible S in one form or another (CM9 or AOSP) soon after the AOSP source is made available. The topic of this post is whether we will see an 'official' ICS version with Sense from HTC.
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Dude, ICS is optimized for multi-core phones because Gingerbread or Froyo do not use more than one core. There are certain apps and games out there that use all cores but that's another story.
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Did you watch the galaxy nexus and ics unveiling?
What I'm saying is straight from the mouth of google so I'm assuming you didn't lol
I don't understand chinese, but I really hope that Scooby is right about this update I would be AWESOME
The same message as left on the rootzwiki AOSP thread:
HTC isn't going to be able to help if they don't know the problem (and don't assume that they do).
Everyone interested in helping who can't develop would benefit from contacting HTC on their website's contact form (which I can't link to xD) and let them know our position and why we want AOSP.
It is really easy and quick to do, and you have no reason not to if you want the current hurdles overcome.
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They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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CAF has LTE support and AOSP is only meant to build for their devices. All LTE devices I have but Holiday have aosp fully functional. The issue are security checks put in by HTC on this device.
Edit: jewel has same checks as well as some other HTC 8960 devices, but they have alsa source so it's moot.
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Copy pasting and editing my response from over there:
They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
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I agree with what you're saying, and things only look worse for the future. Samsung is the next greatest thing, but the Verizon GSIII got locked down (yes, it's been cracked already, but still). It'd be ignorant to think Samsung wouldn't start to lock down on other carriers. Where do we go? LG?
Brings back hope to some HTC owners
A rather interesting HTC update list has been leaked on Twitter showing that there is still hope that some HTC smartphones like the One S, Droid Incredible 4G and the EVO 4G will get the Jelly Bean update.
As noted, the list was leaked on Twitter by Football4PDA, a source that was proven reliable in a couple of leaks before. The list included codenames that are actually, HTC One X+, One XL, Droid Incredible 4G LTE, EVO 4G LTE, One SV, One VX, One S, One S C2 and the HTC J smartphones.
Hopefully HTC will confrim the leaked update list soon.
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HTC phones to get Jelly Bean update “revealed” on Twitter
by Adrian Diaconescu on Dec 10, 2012 with 8 Comments
Although it’s still a bit early to call this one, HTC seems to be on the right track for recovery after a long and painful string of financial losses. The One X+ and especially the Droid DNA might have got the Taiwanese out of the serious pickle they were in, but on the flipside the Jelly Bean upgrading process looks quite bad.
It’s been a while since the last time HTC officially tackled the “Jelly Bean situation”, and, with only one phone being currently upgraded (and rather slowly), you can say things aren’t looking good for people still on ICS.
A bittersweet piece of intelligence has just come to our attention though via Twitter, where a “list of HTC devices that will get JB update” has been posted. The info comes via @Football4PDA, an infamous and rather trustworthy source of leaks and rumors that has provided us in the past with quite a number of precious and accurate pieces of HTC-related info.
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[This time Football seems to go the extra mile to keep the suspense surrounding the “report”, listing the devices that will supposedly get JB under their not so famous codenames. Fortunately, after doing some digging, we think we know the official names of all those phones.
First off, we have the “Evitare”, which is the recently released One X+ with LTE. The thing is this big buy already runs Android 4.1, so either Football mentions it to ensure us that it’ll get 4.2 or it’s a mistake. The “Evita” is the One XL, which is basically a regional version of the One X. This was released way back in May with ICS, so a JB upgrade is definitely long overdue.
Next up we have the “Fireball”, aka Droid Incredible 4G LTE. This was a rather puzzling (barely) high-ender that hit Verizon last summer and that didn’t prove awfully popular. Then again, with Jelly Bean butter, the Incredible could finally live up to its name.
Lower on HTC’s evolutionary chain we have the “Jewel” and “Totem C2”. These are most definitely the EVO 4G LTE and One VX. Both are carrier-exclusive phones in the US, available on Sprint (the EVO) and AT&T (the VX). The One VX however has only started selling a few weeks ago, so it might be a while until it gets the 4.1 bump.
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The next three devices on the list are the Ville, Ville C2 and Valente, aka One S, One S C2 and J ISW13HT. You’re probably already familiar with the One S, while the C2 and J are more or less similar, sporting 4.3-inch displays themselves.
The One S C2 however has a 1.7 GHz dual-core CPU, while the J, as you might have guessed already, is a Japan-only mid-ranger with a 1.5 GHz processor. Last, but not necessarily least, we also have a yet to be released device on the list, the K2 or the One SV. This was supposed to come to Europe already, but for some reason it’s delayed, so there’s a (slim) possibility it could be released with Jelly Bean on board.
Now, to clarify, why did I say this is bittersweet intel? Well, mostly because of the notable absences on the list. We’ve known for a while that phones with 512 MB of RAM will not be invited to the JB party, but what about the Sensation, Desire X, Incredible S or Amaze? Sure, no one says Football’s list is a complete and definitive one, but it definitely makes you think, doesn’t it?
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http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-phones-jelly-bean-update-list-twitter-leak-137928/
The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.
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The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.
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Yeah...that's what the whole op was pretty much about...the vivid not getting official jb
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Just as I thought, those are all sense 4.0 phones. Most likely getting sense 3.6 was a final farewell to the "old" htc phones. They'll use 4.0 as an excuse saying that these phones aren't capable of running 4 and therefore aren't possible to update.
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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer
Evo 4G? That phone is ancient. Nexus one hardware. Are you sure they didn't mean evo 4g Lte?
FWIW I bought the wife a nook color for Christmas and it's got an omap 3 in it which is along the same type of hardware as the first generation snapdragon in the evo and jelly bean works on it but it's pretty choppy animation wise. No oem would want that on their hardware.
I'm pretty sure they were talking about the evo lte which is basically a custom made one x for sprint.
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Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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And this is pretty much how it has always been (this is why xda is here). So thank the smartphone gods you guys are smart and giving, to give us what those paid ******* wont....all a money scheme to them. Thank you devs, you really make everyone really happy (except maybe, htc lol)
TO EVERYONE: CHECK OUT THE WORKING JB (WITH MIC) IN DEV SECTION . No more waiting!!
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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer
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Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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Yeah after bluetooth is done, I'd imagine using an aosp build and adding sense 4.1 wouldn't be impossible, inotherwords we could make our own update!
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Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app
bilibox said:
What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app
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The sense apps rely HEAVILY on sense framework. The second you start mixing sense framework, its not aosp and here come the bugs
But I love htc's camera too
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Yeah definitely its all in or all out with sense. I've come to find most of my lag issues with this phone are from mixing it up, ie using nova and freezing rosie, or using gosms instead of the sense messaging app. As soon as you start doing that, stuff starts breaking, and things get laggy.
Now I am running pure wcx stock build, and completely happy with it because I've just accepted sense. Pretty much if you don't like sense, flash a senseless or cm build. If you like parts of sense, use it all
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I too am kinda confused by this list. I looked at the specs for the HTC One S, and it's pretty much the same as the Vivid, just clocked a little higher. I'm sure the Vivid could officially run Jelly Bean, but for one thing, it would take forever to actually reach us OTA (ahem AT&T). The other reason I can think of that the Vivid isn't on the list, is that if HTC kept updating its older devices, who would buy their new ones?
Anyway, that's why I came to XDA, to see what my Vivid is truly capable of
Yeah, Vivid has been out for quite a while and wasn't very popular. So makes sense that they wouldn't bother with it.
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I've been reading through the posts about the general lackluster developer community for htc phones as a whole. It appears, at least within what I have seen throughout the hardcore android community that this phone, mainly for hardware, is the biggest competitor to the s4. Obviously there are other choices, all of which have their ups and downs(Z,s4,920), but in all this is the phone to rival the s4 right now. To me and this was on another thread about vanilla android, that really it is a deal breaker if the dev community is going to be atrocious. So my question is, do you think the dev community will be larger for this that the one s, due to the draw away from the s4's lackluster design and minimal hardware upgrades. It is really the only phone I am considering getting apart from the next nexus, but I can't pull myself away from how this would be my ultimate phone if it had stock android on it.
This device will gather developers from the HTC evo 3d, evo 4g lte, one x, one xl, international one x, one s, etc..etc.... So yes the development on this device will be epic since it is the only flagship device from HTC. We might loose some developers to other devices but we will also gain some. I woupdnt worry much about not having enought development for the HTC one.
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This device will gather developers from the HTC evo 3d, evo 4g lte, one x, one xl, international one x, one s, etc..etc.... So yes the development on this device will be epic since it is the only flagship device from HTC. We might loose some developers to other devices but we will also gain some. I woupdnt worry much about not having enought development for the HTC one.
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So in that case will developers like Bad Seed Customs etc from the Evo CDMA line be releasing stuff for international too? Or will it be possible to have a one device zip like Virus has with the Evo 3D Viper ROM? Sorry I live in a GSM area
And @OP if you search either this forum or general there is a thread by -viperboy- which has a list of a few developers
What about support from HTC? The S3 I have has next to no support for developers, is HTC any different?
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What about support from HTC? The S3 I have has next to no support for developers, is HTC any different?
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Better because the chipset used (qualcomm) is more documented and has more support from qualcomm themselves via codeauroraforum or whatever its called
However HTC tend to screw around with the source a bit
One thing HTC is bad with is bootloader unlocking: its not "unlocked" as there are many restrictions that samsungs don't have
But overall imo HTC has better support once you get over the bootloaders
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So in that case will developers like Bad Seed Customs etc from the Evo CDMA line be releasing stuff for international too? Or will it be possible to have a one device zip like Virus has with the Evo 3D Viper ROM? Sorry I live in a GSM area
And @OP if you search either this forum or general there is a thread by -viperboy- which has a list of a few developers
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Well the first step for Bad Seed Customs is to actually get this damn phone in the US....