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transfer programms from ram to sdcard

hello,
first: very good page, with a lot of infos and bombastic apps.
but i'm a newbie, i read a lot, but couldn't find a post recommend to my question. also my english isnt very good
my problem: i bought my herald without a memory card. so i installed the apps i found&liked (touchflo,flashlite,kaiserhomeplugin,htc cube clone;total commander;google maps,scitebackup) in the ram of my ppc.
but today i bought a micro sd card. now i would like to move my apps to the card.
questions: can i cut&paste the apps in the folder "programms" to a folder in my card, with the total commender. or isnt this allowed because of the registry or something like that? maybe problem with the .ink files?!
is it better to uninstall all programms. and install them new,this time directly to the sdcard?
thanks for your helps
greetings...

you can try copy paste
just like on pc's some will run others will not
though mind you things like today items and other always
running programs should not be put on the sd card
as they are much slower then storage

thank u

My SD card runs them as fast as the main memory, but I wouldn't install things that are running all the time in it. So, don't install things like the cube on the card. You should uninstall and reinstall the programs into the proper memory storage. It's easier and less problematic that way.

You can move installed programs between MAIN or SD memory using POCKET MECHANIC (http://www.wizcode.com/)
I moved all the tmobile crap (hotspot login, tzones wap, etc..) and anything else I don't want to get rid of, but I never use onto my SD card.

How will we have to wait for a 10 or 12 gb Micro SD Card

Software installation - Device or Storage?

I have just done a ROM upgrade to WM6.1 and plan to reinstall the various apps I hade on the TyTn II (which is only a week or so old). I have searched on Google and looked in the Wiki, FAQs and searched the forums with all manner of search terms but cannot find an answer to what may be a dumb question.
When installing apps is it better to install on device or storage (where the option is offered)? I would have though Storage better to keep memory on device free but wonder if certain progammes and any files they create when being used are better or essential to run on the device because of either pathname issues or speed of access?? Any help appreciated.
I plan to re-install:
Phat Notes
List Pro
SPB Wallet
Co-Pilot
Sprite Back Up

You understand the issues already. I don't use any of those programs so cant comment on them specifically but I install the few bit's of software I do use on my device and only Tomtoms maps, my music and my user created things like docs and photos go on my storage card - thats simply because there isn't enough internal memory to hold all of that and I don't want to run the risk of programs not being available if I take my card out (although that doesn't often happen). I've found that installing Tomtoms voices to internal memory sometimes helps prevent missing words and problems with voice navigation otherwise you could just test out things each way and see which you prefer.
People here have reported they can load many programs at once and the TyTN IIs memory management capabilities keep on top of the situation to prevent running out of internal memory. Unless someone else here has experience installing all those programs both ways, I suspect you'll need to try it and see which you prefer.

Personally as a guide, any program that requires autostart (e.g. all SIPs, SPB GPRS Monitor), I try to install in memory.
Any other program that starts only when I start them, I install into storage card.

IMO, its better to load programs on your memory card so that you don't clutter up your phone memory and consequently slow it down (to be honest, i have never faced this on my TYTN 2, but i guess its a habbit from my Atom days...) I only load today plugins (like Ultimate Launch, RL Today etc..) on the phone 'cause these programs don't work if you load them on the card.
I use Destinator for GPS and this program installs itself on the phone by default, so I copy the destinator folder to the card and overwrite the shortcut for the .exe file in the windows>programs folder to make it work from the card...
So here's my pick
List Pro - Memory Card
SPB Wallet - Memory Card
Co-Pilot - Memory Card
Sprite Back Up - Memory Card
I like my phone clean...

Thanks. After more pondering I think installing all on the device may be better. I can get a full back of them all then using sprite and, as you say, if I take out the SD, or if it dies, I will have no access to data. The programmes are only small and even their files (which i suppose I could create on the storage) are small. I think that create on device, store on device and back up to storage may be better. I will be unlikely to install much else other than Mobile Shell and Phone suite by SPB.
That said I MIGHT go the Card route. No perfect answer I suppose. I'll try the ROM upgrade then a card install first perhaps. If I don't like I can always re-install on the phone. I suppose it's easy enough to back up the card contents and the back up/synch options with the programmes should allow back ups on the main PC (or even My Docs on the phone).

pdaPhone_TM said:
Personally as a guide, any program that requires autostart (e.g. all SIPs, SPB GPRS Monitor), I try to install in memory.
Any other program that starts only when I start them, I install into storage card.
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I second that.

Before the Kaiser I used to put the few programs that were really system-related and/or that I'd still need if the card was out (utilities, explorers, startup items, programs that had today plugins) on the device, and all the rest and big apps on the memory card.
But the Hermes had 40MB free when fresh and empty after a hard reset. Now my Kaiser has about 120MB free when empty, so I just put everything in the internal memory, including MioMap with my country's map, and GPS tuner with maybe 10MB of JPG maps. The only exceptions are 2 very large apps (60MB together) that I anyway barely ever use but just have "in case", those are on the card.
And even after that I still have 35MB free on the device

It use to be a challenge choosing which ones go on main memory or SD card. Some were a no brainer, like Memmaid or Resco Explorer. The very nature of their operation dictated they are on main memory. As another stated, if it was a start up program it had to be on main memory. Sometimes it was a trial and error to find out.
With the Kaiser and its massive memory increase, now my rule is, everything goes to main memory and only games go to the SD card. I still have over 40mb left, and that’s more than my last phone had to start with!

Having pondered even more!!!! Think I may go the device route for the small apps AND keep their files on the device (using the SD card for back ups along with the PC). I may do a split install for the Co Pilot sat nav. Seems more sensible to have the APP installed on the device but have its maps installed on an SD. Figure the maps will eat up a horde of memory on the device. I'll likely also use the SD for photos and music.
Having done it all the other way round I'm now ever pondering:
Clear Storage (hard reset)
Re-flash ROM for clean system
Hard Reset again (which seems to be good practice)
Install all in the right places!!!
All this MAY be a bit drastic and I wonder (seeing as everything is currently working!!) whether simply an uninstall/re-install of the apps might be good enough or even a hard reset followed by re-install.

Hard reset already clears your system, no need to reflash. Do a hard reset and reinstall your stuff, that's it.

Thanks. I ay do just that. Only thing I didn't do (I think) is hard reset after I installed the ROM so I'm wondering whether to bite the bullet and completely do the whole lot again in case in not hard re-setting after flashing I've stored up some future problems.
Also, on the sat nav front, any thoughts on this? I was wondering whether to put both the programme (Co Pilot) and the maps on storage or put the programme on the TyTn and just maps on storage??

i've installed nearly everything to the storage card. it might be a bit slower but i have had no trouble with anything... so far.

goodpill said:
i've installed nearly everything to the storage card. it might be a bit slower but i have had no trouble with anything... so far.
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I have to ask... what is the reason for installing everything to the SD card?

GWelker62 said:
I have to ask... what is the reason for installing everything to the SD card?
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i like to keep maximum memory free. usually only run a program or two at a time but i have some rather large data files in email etc.
just a personal preference from many years of pda's

Is there such an app? Direct all to storage card?

Hello all,
It was suggested to me to post this question here.
I am looking for a way to basically poing any and all possible to the storage card. I think I remember a couple years back finding one for my Hermes here at XDA-Developers.com but now I can't seem to locate it??
I would like it if someone knows how to or an app to do this if they could let me know. I think I remember the other one being a .cab that directed everything to the card.
Does this make sense to anyone?
PS: I know on the camera app you can select the device or the card.

Make it little clear
do you want to receive files(say songs etc) through bluetooth and get them stored in memory card and want to place inbox in memory card ?
chand
the moon

Well what I was thinking was I would like any and all files to be stored on the card.
For instance, when active-sync creates a short cut on the desktop (pc) for files to be sync'd there is a list of folders... If I click "Explore" in AS it opens to files on my device. Now if I follow it correctly, all the files in the (pc) desktop shortcut leads to the folders in the "My Docs" on the device.
The last sentenance is what I would like to change, I would like for any and all files besides apps or system files to be stored on the card.
Meaning, no "My docs" on the device memory, just the card.
Is there a way in the registry or something else to change the path for said folders to be redirected to the memory card?

I don't think there is an app that will do this
SKTools has a "move file" option that says it will move the file and update information in the registry, but its not clear if this applies to folders
Now, you could try using a registry editor with find-replace to find all instances of "/My Documents" and change it to something like "/Storage Card/My Documents", then soft reset and see if that works -- I can't seem to find a registry editor that does find and replace like this -- anyone?

Advanced Config Tool (attached) will allow you to specify default locations for directories.

Main Memory Low

I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.

Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.

HI THERE
the program pocket mechanic solve me a lot of that issue .
after installing the prog. i removed some what of files to the intenal storage .
it did work for me just great /

windows folder/directory
open windows directory. goto Opera folder. goto images folder. any files that aren't jpg or png (meaning files that will have an opera logo in front of them) are deletable. If you use opera a lot and have never done this, there may be many. Also Windows/Messaging. this stores info from all emails, even when you delete, info is left here- delete all old stuff. If you feel iffy about trying any of this, create a folder in your internal storage to cut these files into, and if you have any trouble or do something wrong, you can cut/copy them right bsck (but these sre things i do to keep memory clear). Also, ClearTemp is an AWESOME HELPFUL program (and free). I think v1.21 is the latest, but after 3rd day of using it, it had recovered about 10mb of storage memory. (set it up properly, din't just hit 'clean'). good luck.
Lastly, some early diamonds (roms) had a known issue with unrecoverable storage memory, so last case scenario, update to newest official rom.

nickschot said:
Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.
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au contraire. memory on diamond is partitioned 3ways (storage memory, program memory, internal storage)
when you get a 'main memory low' msg, it's usually because your storage memory (not RAM), and not program memory, has dropped to <1mb. not your operating memory or program memory.

UgXvibe said:
I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.
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I dealt with this on my first diamond. Had to return it - it is an issue on early diamonds, known by htc (storage not erasing things it should, regardless of user settings). A search will turn up a handful of other threds on this topic.

Thanks for all the replies.. here are screens of what I'm talking about.
As you can see I have a ton of storage on the Internal but 1Mb left on Device... If you still agree that I should follow the advice above I will do that. Just wanted to clarify what I was talking about.

thank you scottspa74
I have exactly the same problem with storage memory and what scottspa74 proposed just gave me the solution to my problem .
Thank you very much

Well, I also found that if you have taken a lot of pictures and video with the phone it takes up a ton of device storage. Try deleting big video files or transferring them somewhere else.

[Q] Can't see SD Card

Hi
Just a quick question. Running WM7 on HTC HD2 but I can't see my SD card or any settings to get to it.
Is there any obvious setting I've missed.

You won't see it as such as it's effectively incorporated into the WP7 file system. You can tweak your PC's registry to make the device appear in Windows Explorer, which gives you limited access to folders, but you really need to use Zune or email to put files onto the device - the card doesn't work quite like it used to in terms of portable storage.
I understand schapps is working on a WP7 'Device Centre' that may help with some aspects of this - should be released following the forthcoming WP7 update.

Thanks for info.
After install I only have 64MB of data storage left. Therefore I can't install aps or take pic's etc so looks like Android for me then.

Hi,
I had the same problem few days agot...
I tried two of my sd cards, and it didn't work, so I bought a new one, and re install my hd2, then it worked...
You can try to reformat the card with SDFormatter, maybe it could help!
But you have to hard reset your phone when you change your sd card.
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