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....how much time before a ROM like, becomes obsolete, per se? like, would i be missing something were i to have the same ROM for like a month?
like what really happens to a ROM within a week-to-week basis? cuz i see some of the ROMs in the section are constantly being updated....
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....how much time before a ROM like, becomes obsolete, per se? like, would i be missing something were i to have the same ROM for like a month?
like what really happens to a ROM within a week-to-week basis? cuz i see some of the ROMs in the section are constantly being updated....
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Once you flashed your device, you have what you have - until you reflash it again!
Just like on a desktop computer: if you install Windows XP and Microsoft later releases Vista, your computer will have XP until you decide one day to actually install VISTA on your computer.
Chefs continiously improve their ROM's by fixing BUGs and adding new cool features to them. All those changes are posted in the related threads in the ROM DEVELOPMENT section.
If you flashed your device with a cooked ROM and you're happy with it, well, nothing wrong with it! If you flashed your ROM and you encountered a BUG, post it in the related thread or read the posts regarding a newer release of that ROM in order to see if that BUG had been fixed. The same about new features, simply keep reading the posts and decide for yourself if it would be worth upgrading or not ... !
Lots of things can change between releases. The chefs fix bugs, add or remove bundled programs, change features, change skins and appearances. Luckily, most chefs are pretty good at noting the changes they make.
There's nothing wrong with sticking with a ROM for a while, though. My usual habit is to flash a fair number over the course of a couple days, then stick with my favorite of them for a month or so. Trying to flash a new ROM every time one is released means that you'll spend more time configuring your phone than actually USING it. And some people are just fine with that -- but my Kaiser is a tool for me, and I need to be able to use that tool.
Some of the more passionate folks here might try and evaluate new ROMs far more often, however, and there's nothing wrong with that, either.
Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!
I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!
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Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!
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Centin said:
I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!
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very simple
install Diamond Tweak program
allmost all Tweaks in costom roms in this program
and you can turn it on or off.
have fun guys and merry christmas
Ok,
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-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
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Well, the official ROM is usually somewhat slower and could have some 'problems' diamond users experience. Although sometimes an official update is available which could solve some stuff.
The main advantage of using a custom rom is that it's pre-tweaked. Has some tweaks you cannot get unless you flash a new ROM (so the tweaks are in the ROM itself). Take a different pagepool for example. Try and do a search about what that it.
Usually a new ROM also combines a set of the newest software from HTC. So the newest keyboard app from another HTC update, the new TouchFlo from somewhere else. And that combined gives you the latest software and tweaks.
Also, when you dont like touchflo 3d for example, there are custom roms that have removed that. And perhaps remove all other 'extra' software as well. Those are the so called 'light' roms. Those give you max memory and max speed (if possible) at the cost of less applications running thus removing certain functions. You can then add those functions as you please. So you don't end up with a phone that has stuff for 20 things, while you would only need 8 or something (just a random example).
In the case of the TouchFlo3D, if you dont like that and want something else as your today screen you want to get rid of it to free up some memory!
In all my experience with a lot of HTC phones, the 'best' roms were always custom ones. But it's getting harder and harder to see what's good and what's not. As you have probably seen already there are a lot of roms out there for the Diamond. I can only suggest you go and read what the differences seem to be between the roms.
Also read the comments on the roms and try to get some understanding of the changes made to the different versions.
Try to remember though (and this is always the nasty part) you can remove your warranty by flashing another ROM. Also (with the diamond in rare cases) you could 'brick' your phone. Which is no more than a failed update which makes your device unusable. I must say, with the Diamond that almost seems impossible when you just flash normal custom roms. But the 'risk' is always there in some way.
Read about the correct hard spl when you want to flash (need that one before you can flash a new rom, the hard spl unlocks your phone for custom roms). That would be the first step anyway.
And well, after all this info which isn't a lot at all (but it is!) and might or might not help you, the ROM I use is: Duttys V3.6b Final, the 12mb pagepool version.
You can find it here.
Read the howto flash part! It's in the second post all the way below the changelogs.
Obviously everyone has their favourite rom they use, and they all say theirs is the best. So you should really find that out yourself.
In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.
Thanks... answered my questions
Thanks alot for your answers it made it all clear for me now... !!
Now i only have to wait for my diamond ... and i have to say this Forum makes the Diamond even more usefull and valuable...
Thanks again...
Is there a preferred custom ROM amongst users here? BTW, which tweak program are you referring to? I've seen quite a few on here? Thanks.
i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.
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In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.
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That's what I've been doing for the past couple of hours lol. Some of these threads are HUGE. I still cannot decide which one to try. Looking at the radio bits too. Also curious about landscape keyboard. From what I understand...keyboard is only available in portrait mode but there are some fixes for that?
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i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.
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Is that part of that Advanced Config application?
"What Custom Rom is the best" and "What tweaks should I use" are both very subjective so we don't allow them for this reason.
Best recommendation I (or anyone) can give is to read about the things you think you want to use and ask for clarification in those threads.
I am sure like many of you, I am trying different ROMs from the various "chefs" in this forum. I must be on my 10th different ROM version by now (current ROM I am using is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462235, seems quite stable and fast).
My question is; "is there a limit to the number of times the HTC Touch HD can be flashed?", I know from previous devices there is a limit that ROM can be flashed (usually around 600), I just want to know the HTC Touch figure as I will stop playing around with ROMs so much if this figure is low enough.
I would think that there would be no limit as long as your careful and not screwing around with the radio's and SPL too much, for any device.
I don't know if 600 may be the limit, but i know that i've flashed more and more my polaris previous, and now my Blackstone into cooking it!
i think it is related to the question about flash rom life....as mlc memory chip may have lesser rewrite times.
but should be enough for thousands
i was told
100,000 times + so you have a long way to go yet
this has been covered many time in the diamond threads already
Thankyou
Thanks for all your responses, I will carry on flashng then!! Is good to see the roms being developed here, cant wait to see a Windows Mobile 7 Rom in 2009!! Screenshots seen so far look cool.
I find that no matter what ROM I use, I have something that is a problem.
The most success I have had is with Serindipity. But, with that, and other 2.2.1 I9000 ROMs I have tried, after 2-3 weeks, I have the auto rotate fail. Nothing will fix it other than a flash back to stock 2.1, and then reflash of the 2.2.1 ROM. Not even a factory reset on the 2.2.1 ROM will work.
So, now I am trying UCKB1 ROM (stock 2.2 Froyo for Captivate), specifically Cognition. This one is pretty successful, except...modems are few, and I have constant problems with WiFi enabling with Tasker.
Those are the two issues that seem to haunt my phone.
What is your experience? Of course, if you don't use Tasker, maybe the WiFi issue won't be a problem for you.
I suppose the auto rotate could be a sensor trying to go out on my phone...but, EVERY time I do the reinstall of 2.1 it fixes it. So I have cannot replace the phone, and given that it always starts working, I'm not convinced it is a hardware issue.
And for those on 2.2.1, what I've seen generally is that most people putting these ROMS on are flashing addicts (I'm not saying that is a bad thing ), but I prefer to use the phone and not constantly flash. Too much other config to set up after flashing.
Oh, by the way, one fault I have is way too many apps installed. I delete some and then next thing you know I've installed others. Pretty much requires that I use an OC kernel, and I like to use UV for battery performance. Interestingly, I have been quite successful at 1400, and 1.5%/hour drain at idle, with WiFi, GPS, and BT on.
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I find that no matter what ROM I use, I have something that is a problem.
The most success I have had is with Serindipity. But, with that, and other 2.2.1 I9000 ROMs I have tried, after 2-3 weeks, I have the auto rotate fail. Nothing will fix it other than a flash back to stock 2.1, and then reflash of the 2.2.1 ROM. Not even a factory reset on the 2.2.1 ROM will work.
So, now I am trying UCKB1 ROM (stock 2.2 Froyo for Captivate), specifically Cognition. This one is pretty successful, except...modems are few, and I have constant problems with WiFi enabling with Tasker.
Those are the two issues that seem to haunt my phone.
What is your experience? Of course, if you don't use Tasker, maybe the WiFi issue won't be a problem for you.
I suppose the auto rotate could be a sensor trying to go out on my phone...but, EVERY time I do the reinstall of 2.1 it fixes it. So I have cannot replace the phone, and given that it always starts working, I'm not convinced it is a hardware issue.
And for those on 2.2.1, what I've seen generally is that most people putting these ROMS on are flashing addicts (I'm not saying that is a bad thing ), but I prefer to use the phone and not constantly flash. Too much other config to set up after flashing.
Oh, by the way, one fault I have is way too many apps installed. I delete some and then next thing you know I've installed others. Pretty much requires that I use an OC kernel, and I like to use UV for battery performance. Interestingly, I have been quite successful at 1400, and 1.5%/hour drain at idle, with WiFi, GPS, and BT on.
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I've been on a phoenix 4.5 for a while, and I'm pretty happy with it right now. I should probly update it though.
To be honest... every single ROM (minus one or two random tries) in this forum are worth keeping, imo.
They all have their pros and cons, but they're all well made.
I never make it more than like 3 weeks (and that was on CM7 lol) without flashing because I'm an addict, but there are a lot of stable ROM's
A few I really like:
Phoenix
Serendipity
Continuum
There are many others, but you get the idea!
Regards
Smith
longest i was on Darky's 8.0..for 2 months...then CM7 for 3 weeks....lol...but almost all 2.2.1 roms are stable to stick on one for long time..
erm, the best 2.2 one ive been on is serendipity . It simply does everything...
When i decided to move onto 2.3, i used MIUI (Still using it)
Yes, my expectations are that all the roms are 'great'. But, as noted, I have not had ANY that don't end up with problems, as outlined above. Other problems, depending on which ROM, and kernel combination, is Blue Tooth voice dialing. Again, I'm looking for someone using them successfully long term.
I'm hearing people like sames ones I have tried, plus one or two.
What is strange is the issues I outlined above that I continue to have. May be related to my hardware...don't know. Will be interesting to see if anyone posts that indicates having same problems, and even better, having conquered them either with specific ROM or a fix.
Thanks. I'll continue to watch this thread, and will likely try a different ROM.
Over 6 weeks on Andromeda and no issues. Smoothest, most stable ROM available for the Cappy IMHO.
Did you try performing a horizontal calibration when auto rotate stopped working?
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Did you try performing a horizontal calibration when auto rotate stopped working?
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Yes, I believe so. It indicated no sensor or something. But it has not been around 3 weeks since moving to 2.2, and it hasn't happened again. If it does, I will be sure to do that again.
If this continues to work w/o Auto Rotate problems, I may end up putting 2.2.1 back on, and see what happens.
I tried everything with the same reservations--the odd bug and amateur hour theming.
Until Andromeda. No bugs ; stock UI. Haven't flashed anything in 2 months.
No phone are created equal(hardware limitations) and may react differently with different types of rom or kernel but so far my phone likes paragon rc6 even with 1400mhz kernel and faster mount in ext4 my phone is pretty stable. With other rom with the same clock speed it is not as fast and stable as paragon. So flash any rom out there until your phone meet its match.
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No phone are created equal(hardware limitations) and may react differently with different types of rom or kernel but so far my phone likes paragon rc6 even with 1400mhz kernel and faster mount in ext4 my phone is pretty stable. With other rom with the same clock speed it is not as fast and stable as paragon. So flash any rom out there until your phone meet its match.
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I've been on dillis rom for about 3 months straight. I tried cm6 a while ago and I think I tried cognition the first time I flashed but dillis is just so simple, stripped and speedy. awesome GPS too(huge for me) and batt life exceeds a day(even more huge). however, themes and fluff arent my thing. I don't think I'm the only dilli fan with this opinion.
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Good feedback everybody. I may experiment with one, or more, of the ROMS discussed here.
At the moment, I not sure how long I've been on my current ROM (Cognition 4.2.1), but at the moment, my issues may be working out.
The WiFi issue is improved since doing a clear of cache and Dalvik cache. We'll see how that goes.
The Auto Rotate, so far, has not messed up.
The one nagging thing at the moment is my notification volume constantly changes back to very low. Not sure what is causing that.
I've seen a couple votes for Andromeda. I was looking in that thread a few days ago, and even the change log (didn't read top to bottom extensively) and I could not find what it is based on; what kernel it is using; or modem. Of course kernel and modem would be changeable, but I would like to know what base it is on.
Again, my goal is to find something working well; performing well. Its interesting that after starting this thread, my 'issues' seem close to resolved based on what I'm running. Want to give it more time.
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I've seen a couple votes for Andromeda. I was looking in that thread a few days ago, and even the change log (didn't read top to bottom extensively) and I could not find what it is based on; what kernel it is using; or modem. Of course kernel and modem would be changeable, but I would like to know what base it is on.
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should have read the Q&A thread on it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962276
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should have read the Q&A thread on it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962276
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You are right. Seems nobody has any standards on where to put that information. Seems to me the OP should contain the basic info on what it is built on. Or the release notes linked from the OP.
Whatever....
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You are right. Seems nobody has any standards on where to put that information. Seems to me the OP should contain the basic info on what it is built on. Or the release notes linked from the OP.
Whatever....
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not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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EXACTLY!
yeah, it would suck to have to read a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS thread when you have a QUESTION about the rom that needs ANSWERED
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EXACTLY!
yeah, it would suck to have to read a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS thread when you have a QUESTION about the rom that needs ANSWERED
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I agree with you, but I also agree with the FDA and suggest putting all BASIC info right on the bottle (the ROM OP). Would benefit everyone.
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not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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I agree with you. I do. I don't want to flame or start a war on it either.
I commented that I did not read comprehensively; and I commented in my reply that he was right about that I should have read the Q&A. My only point was I did read what I considered the logical places: the OP; and the release notes, particularly the earlier part of the release notes, whre typically what the ROM is made up if would be stored.
Does that not make some sense?
That's all I was getting at. While I have read a thread front to back, I only do so if I have decided I do want to use the ROM. Sometimes a little logic in placement of information in documentation makes the documentation so much better.
Now, I will go read, and see if I want to try Andromeda. I recall the Armani ROM coming out, and something rings a bell about that which made me stay away, but I have no idea now what that was. That was very early in my efforts to install ROMS.
Back to our regular show ...
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I recall the Armani ROM coming out, and something rings a bell about that which made me stay away, but I have no idea now what that was. That was very early in my efforts to install ROMS.
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your hesitation with armani was likely a couple of us bricking our phones with the bootloader that shipped with the original armani rom. the boot loaders have been removed from the CWM flashable and do not cause bricks
I am new to posting here, and unfortunately can not yet post in the Dev section, so I have to ask this question here:
I have a US TMo Tab, and after disappointing experience with the stock ROM, began flashing custom ROMs from OC 1.4 to Overcome 1.6, and have had nothing but great experience with all of them (and donated more than once to the coffee funds of the devs). They were faster and smoother by far than the stock TMo.
When 2.0.0 came out, I started with the beta installation, and have followed the instructions meticulously as a good noob should do (I have enough experience in IT to know what I don't know and to RTFM).
These are not in the FAQs or answered in the Dev Boards, so here are my questions/issues to report:
I have had a radical drop in battery life - 9 hrs. average with 1.6, 4-5 hrs. now, and no change or addition of apps to speak of. I am holding out as others are now reporting this to see whether it can be fixed before backing out to the earlier version, because of the significant improvement in the Browser and some of the other GB enhancements (kick me, I like Daily Briefing now!).
The biggest problem I having is that since the GB upgrade, the Roto Modem Switcher (enriched his coffee fund as well as Alterbridge and Darkpal's) now goes through the switch, but the script errors out and the screen runs into a series of red lines, I think, when CWM/reboot is invoked, so each time I run this I have to manually reboot the unit. I have seen several posts on this but no concrete answers and I am wondering if anyone can shed any light on what I might be able to try to restore this please.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Hello,
Sorry I can't be of help, but just want to let you know something.
Don't post your questions in dev section, the response can be pretty offensive.
The dev section is for developers only, so you can reply to overcome 2.0 thread if you have a question or an overcome problem reporting thread if they have one. Posting a question there ... is just inviting flame, happened a lot to xda newbies(myself included).
As far is know about overcome, the current 2.0 gold still has some bugs and the most stable one is still the old 1.6.4. I am still waiting for the stable version of 2.0.
@jpnaggy -
Thanks for the sage advice. I see a lot of that there, and some of it is sound flaming - folks don't follow all the instrux and ask questions that have been answered, sometimes just can't read the thread.
It seems Alterbridge and his devs are a little more tolerant than most, and they really do try to help people out, moreover, they encourage feedback so long as it is constructive because it drives improvements to future releases.
That said, I will keep my fingers crossed that someone can assist here, and really do thank you for the warning. I won't post anything unless it is concise and precise, and unless I have scoured the prior posts in vain for an answer.
Cheers!
are you sure u want to ask a question here in GENERAL section and not in Q|A section ?
Manual rebooting is the new procedure.
Try googling "battery drain galaxy tab" and see where that takes you.
Turn off auto syncing of everything for a day and see what that does. Check your display settings - brightness, color density .
Thanks all!
My bad for posting in the wrong area - thanks @k0sh for the well-deserved dunning. Guess they don't call us noobs for nothing!
@ranger - have googled battery drain for two days straight, and am reading all I can on this.
The problem most definitely started after the last flash - I figured it was a good idea to reset the battery stats since I had done so good on Alter's 1.6 and realize now I should probably have left it alone.
I suspect that had I done so, it would have remained good or gotten better, and it is possible that this explains to some degree why there is such a disparity in battery life others are reporting.
I will patiently await the next update, and promise to post in the right place from now on. Thanks again all for your assitance!
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My bad for posting in the wrong area - thanks @k0sh for the well-deserved dunning. Guess they don't call us noobs for nothing!
@ranger - have googled battery drain for two days straight, and am reading all I can on this.
The problem most definitely started after the last flash - I figured it was a good idea to reset the battery stats since I had done so good on Alter's 1.6 and realize now I should probably have left it alone.
I suspect that had I done so, it would have remained good or gotten better, and it is possible that this explains to some degree why there is such a disparity in battery life others are reporting.
I will patiently await the next update, and promise to post in the right place from now on. Thanks again all for your assitance!
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What i like on you that you understand and accept tye fact that you are not gonna post any thread on the wrong section , i was like u also , lmao.
About the battery could u reverse back to froyo then to gingerbread then to beta2 and then update to Rc1 and then to gold . And see how it will work
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Okay!
Thanks gentlemen, to you both. After an arduous weekend of flashing and re-flashing I think I may be getting better at this (of course, I am not taking off the training wheels - I follow the Overcome Guide line by line each time because it is way too easy to make a mistake).
First - I flashed back to 1.6 (because I can't stomach putting stock T-Mo back on my Tab no matter what!) - and that went fine. Then I upped to GB using the instrux in Gold's upgrade, then I reflashed current Gold (oh, where is Hermes already? I know, I read the State of the Union, and all the comments on your Dev thread, and I am patiently waiting for more OC Perfection!). But this time, I did one more thing - I took a look at the bloat that was all over my Internal and External SD cards, carefully, just to make sure I wasn't dragging something bad back in. The directory structure on my external SD was SWISS CHEESE - directories nested under one another (e.g. \titanium bu\titanium bu, data\data, etc.).
Gotta think my quick fingers got the better of my slow brain, but since this was such a mess, and I know there is nothing on the internal SD after a full wipe (what, three times with all the re-flashed ROMs) and the Dalvik wipe to boot, I decided to use a Market Backup, just to keep a list somewhere of all my installed Apps (currentl number 247). And this time, I installed them all one by one, rather than restore them from TB.
And this time, no lag, and VERY little noticeable battery drain (@rangercaptain - thank you again!).
@k0sh - You are brilliant! Your suggestion got me thinking this had to be a self-inflicted problem and you were spot on!
So now that you spent all this time helping out a Noob, I am anxiously waiting for the next iteration of Overcome, and this baby is flying right now! Woo hoo! Thanks to you both!