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Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335096
The problem is that phone/data work fine when the phone is in non-3G mode. (In the Comm Manager, available in most recent ROMs, I have disabled the 3G mode, so I'm using only GSM here in the US).
In 3G mode, I'll get a 3G icon (used to get an H, months ago), but will be unable to place/receive calls, and no data connections will be established -- they'll all time out or say that "the answering modem has disconnected."
So, back to my question: is it possible that my radio is partly damaged? Can that happen? I'm not sure how else to explain the utter lack of 3G on my phone.
can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times
dyetheskin said:
can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've tried everything I can think of, and everything suggested. Nearly ever ROM I've seen, with nearly every radio; every combination of wap.cingular, isp.cingular, etc. The AT&T store thinks the phone is defective b/c they can't figure it out, either. In response to your comments: tried every version of windows mobile and most of the radios available; I'm very much in a HSDPA 3G area (used to get 5 bars "H" all the time); 3G is enabled; network settings are correct; phone is set to auto/auto.
Any other ideas, anyone? I appreciate it!
I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.
AndyNJ said:
I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.
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Well, the good part is, you're not alone. I found another forum online (can't remember where, I'm at work now and I found it last night) were several people were having the exact same problem -- in various countries around the world, including the US.
They had decent luck flashing the stock HTC ROM and then the French radio mentioned on the big XDA radio post (search google for "kaiser radio" and you should see it). However, I did the same and still have the 3G problem.
did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.
I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post
XtreMe_G said:
did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.
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Yep -- I've tried going all the way back to the original ROM and radio. No go.
yeantbron said:
I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post
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Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
Bonne chance!
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Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
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As mentioned in this thread, some shipments of the TyTN II have faulty hardware with broken 3G support.
No patch or driver update can fix this because it is a hardware problem. I experienced exactly the same issue with my first TyTN II and finally replaced it with a new device which works flawlessly out of the box.
I believe you should also better get your device replaced if you ever want to use 3G.
Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
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Yes of course !
Well, 4 days to receive my phone !!
and they have changed :
_motherboard
_antenna
and MAJ rom and radio
Version de ROM : 1.56.163.8 ===> 1.56.163.9
Date de ROM : 09/04/07 ===> 10/15/07
Version de radio : 1.27.12.11 ===> 1.27.12.32
Version de protocole : 22.45.88.07H ===> not changed
are you saying you have gotten your phone back? is it working now?
Hi guys,
I have this strange problem, it even seems random.
After I turn wifi off, my Note does not connect to 3g anymore.
And I have to reboot the phone to get it working again.
Does anyone experience the same problem, or knows a sollution?
I rooted KK1 and flashed LA4 using Mobile Odin.
Cheers,
Daan
I've had this problem once, but it worked again after a reboot. Haven't experienced it again. It happened on KK5, but i flashed LA4 yesterday, so it's too early to tell if it will happen again.
It also happened on my Desire HD with MIUI and also while running CM7, so it might turn out to be a bug in Android.
I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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m2b999 said:
I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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No, this is not the issue.
I manually set the APN settings for Telfort, removing MMS and setting it up for "internet" only.
Did a wifi on/off cycle, with a short interval and it seems to work.
Going to test with a longer interval. Not completely convinced yet.
Hope it's fixed.
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edit: Not fixed!
On wifi for half an hour, turned it off and [email protected]#$% 3g does not connect anymore.
Maybe it's just Telfort. They don't have the Note listed on their website, but still.
My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.
Goneeuro said:
My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.
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Annoying stuff! Cycling airplane mode does not work for me, only a full reboot.
But if you had the problem too, It could be that it's the network's (in my case Telfort's) problem.
Maybe I have to get my sim replaced, but I'm switching to T-Mobile in about a month.
So it's a bit of a pain.
I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.
Goneeuro said:
I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.
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Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??
DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!
ranjan.alva said:
Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??
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Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
drashish36 said:
what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!
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Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network
DaanJordaan said:
Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network
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Thats a pain i was so tired of formating,..reformatting....coz many custom firmware have some error and new updates keep coming almost daily...and all ask to wipe for best experience..dat was when i finally decided to come bk to stock and stick to it...
yeah it doesnt hav those fancy colors and throbbing speed which a custom rom boosts about but...but hey everythin works flawlessly and i dnt have any tension of random reboots and alarm not ringing..or any smartphone related error to comeup...plus all my apps and schedule is there forever no reinstalling tension....enjoying my phone....
Okay, so I I did a full wipe and installed a deodexed rooted LA4.
I still have this issue.
Also tested on KK1 stock and still experienced this issue.
If it does this on KK1 and LA4 it's reason enough for me to believe it's the network.
I'll just wait for my T-Mobile plan to start. Meh.
edit: It seems to work just fine on CM9 :-/
First of all, let me start of what I've tried doing, in order.
New SIM-card, factory reset, unlock + root, custom ICS (VirtousQuattro).
None of the above solved my problem, it still persists! The problem is, the phone disconnects completely from the network (no bars) and I can't manually search for a new provider due "active package transmission" or something like that, it stays disconnected for 1-3 minutes and then reconnects. It happens fairly often, like once for every 5 times I try using the phone. I haven't noticed the problem when being connected to a WiFi, so I'd assume the problem is related to an issue between the phone and the network.
Has anybody else had this problem? Any idea how to solve it?
Have you tried flashing a new Radio? I can't see how that would differ from flashing a custom ROM, but might be worth a shot?
CyanideJack said:
Have you tried flashing a new Radio? I can't see how that would differ from flashing a custom ROM, but might be worth a shot?
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I haven't tried that, I might in a couple of days if nobody has any other solution though.. I've had the problem for a couple of weeks so I'm kind of used to it!
Naforcee said:
I haven't tried that, I might in a couple of days if nobody has any other solution though.. I've had the problem for a couple of weeks so I'm kind of used to it!
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You need s-off to flash a new radio m8.
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Adde79 said:
You need s-off to flash a new radio m8.
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So much for being "unlocked". Also, hey mate
Yes Naforcee, I have exactly the same problem. And it never happens while using wifi as you said.
It started immediately after I updated to Sense 3 / Android 2.3.5 from HTC.
What was the version of Android in your previous Rom? I had issues when I was on Froyo and went to Gingerbread without flashing a new radio.
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keiichi_san said:
What was the version of Android in your previous Rom? I had issues when I was on Froyo and went to Gingerbread without flashing a new radio.
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I had 2.3.5 earlier, so that'd be GB. Same problems with ICS now though =/
Antenna in the back cover got busted?
Maybe the contacts aren't touching enough?
fallenwout said:
Antenna in the back cover got busted?
Maybe the contacts aren't touching enough?
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Don't think it's a physical problem, I have perfect connection and it just dies out for about 2 min until it reconnects, and I can't search for network when it's down due to active packet transfer..
Could try a new SIM card. Might not fix it, but worth a shot - I've seen this posted as a fix for other people.
I used to have this problem on certain radios on the Desire Z, after flashing around a bunch of radios to try all of them. Stuck with one and it went away, so it was software for me.
kaijura said:
Could try a new SIM card. Might not fix it, but worth a shot - I've seen this posted as a fix for other people.
I used to have this problem on certain radios on the Desire Z, after flashing around a bunch of radios to try all of them. Stuck with one and it went away, so it was software for me.
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New SIM was my first try to fix it, it didn't work.. I guess radio is the only solution left!
Naforcee said:
New SIM was my first try to fix it, it didn't work.. I guess radio is the only solution left!
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What version radio do you have installed?
Naforcee said:
First of all, let me start of what I've tried doing, in order.
New SIM-card, factory reset, unlock + root, custom ICS (VirtousQuattro).
None of the above solved my problem, it still persists! The problem is, the phone disconnects completely from the network (no bars) and I can't manually search for a new provider due "active package transmission" or something like that, it stays disconnected for 1-3 minutes and then reconnects. It happens fairly often, like once for every 5 times I try using the phone. I haven't noticed the problem when being connected to a WiFi, so I'd assume the problem is related to an issue between the phone and the network.
Has anybody else had this problem? Any idea how to solve it?
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I was sick and tired of these problems, and then i made s-off, rooted and isntalled custom ROM and changed Radio 20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M and now everything is good
He has: 3822.10.08.28_M
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What version radio do you have installed?
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He has: 3822.10.08.28_M
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Naforcee said:
First of all, let me start of what I've tried doing, in order.
New SIM-card, factory reset, unlock + root, custom ICS (VirtousQuattro).
None of the above solved my problem, it still persists! The problem is, the phone disconnects completely from the network (no bars) and I can't manually search for a new provider due "active package transmission" or something like that, it stays disconnected for 1-3 minutes and then reconnects. It happens fairly often, like once for every 5 times I try using the phone. I haven't noticed the problem when being connected to a WiFi, so I'd assume the problem is related to an issue between the phone and the network.
Has anybody else had this problem? Any idea how to solve it?
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Try flashing this radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471861 using the ADB method. If that doesn't help I recommend doing a full wipe and reinstalling the ROM. There are a lot of different custom ROMs for IncS which can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
I personally like Niks ROM and Android Revolution HD.
Looks like rom installation issue.
My son's Inc-S having a similar problem to the OP, but more severe. A couple of weeks ago he entered airplane mode with all behaving normally, but since exiting airplane mode at the end of the flight he hasn't been able to register on the network (voice or data). We've tried:
fiddling with all the network settings
change sims (all sims work on my Inc2, none work on his IncS)
cleaning the antenna connections
reboot
factory reset
flashing new ROM (Android Revolution HD 2.3.0)
flashing new radio (3805.10.03.29_M)
So far, no satisfaction. We're still seeing no bars of reception (with an X) in the notification area, and don't have the option to manually or automatically register with any network operator (although several occasionally show up as options under "Search Networks"). We usually get the error message, "Unable to search for network while packet connection is active" when trying to select a network. Funny thing is, mobile network data has been shut off on his phone for the past month so the packet connection is definitely not active (wifi is on). Based on a network signal analyzer app, the phone is receiving the same mobile network signal as mine (-65 to -70 db) when they are side-by-side, so the problem does not appear to be in the antenna. The phone works just fine using wifi but is useless as a phone.
Any ideas about what to try next?
scrinch said:
My son's Inc-S having a similar problem to the OP, but more severe. A couple of weeks ago he entered airplane mode with all behaving normally, but since exiting airplane mode at the end of the flight he hasn't been able to register on the network (voice or data). We've tried:
fiddling with all the network settings
change sims (all sims work on my Inc2, none work on his IncS)
cleaning the antenna connections
reboot
factory reset
flashing new ROM (Android Revolution HD 2.3.0)
flashing new radio (3805.10.03.29_M)
So far, no satisfaction. We're still seeing no bars of reception (with an X) in the notification area, and don't have the option to manually or automatically register with any network operator (although several occasionally show up as options under "Search Networks"). We usually get the error message, "Unable to search for network while packet connection is active" when trying to select a network. Funny thing is, mobile network data has been shut off on his phone for the past month so the packet connection is definitely not active (wifi is on). Based on a network signal analyzer app, the phone is receiving the same mobile network signal as mine (-65 to -70 db) when they are side-by-side, so the problem does not appear to be in the antenna. The phone works just fine using wifi but is useless as a phone.
Any ideas about what to try next?
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Probably a RIL-Radio communication issue. Recommended radio is the newer 3822.01.08.14_M radio, so maybe you should try that.
well, my wifi is acting wierd... reception is good and it doesn't disconnect too often, theres just this little anoying thing!
everytime roughly 3-4 days after i flash a new rom my wifi simply refuses to connect to network, and not a specific one, any network at all!
and it stays like this for a couple of hours and then all of a sudden it picks up a a networks and it works fine for a while, untill i happens again...
i've tried restarting and taking out the battery and turning the wifi off for a while, nothing seems to help, he just decides on his own when he is whilling to connect again....
if i flash a brand new rom the problem disapear for a few days but then it comes back... i'm assuming it has to do with some sort of a cache that is filling up with loads of crap and ruining the wifi activity but i tried googling for this and found nothing..
ideas anyone? (btw this happens on all roms: stock, existenz, beanstalker etc...)
its a hardware problem and not so uncommon look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531711
if you can take it to a customer support and if you cant sell it and again if you cant, then just get along with no wifi/bluetooth/NFC check all of them you should have problem with them too
dragunov_lq said:
its a hardware problem and not so uncommon look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531711
if you can take it to a customer support and if you cant sell it and again if you cant, then just get along with no wifi/bluetooth/NFC check all of them you should have problem with them too
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absolutly not related, my NFC and bluetooth works just fine, i don't need to press hard anywhere...
and my wifi works just fine after a fresh rom install... so it's defenetly a software problem...
shteren said:
absolutly not related, my NFC and bluetooth works just fine, i don't need to press hard anywhere...
and my wifi works just fine after a fresh rom install... so it's defenetly a software problem...
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to me that sounds like the start of it because mine was the same at the first few days flashing a new rom or something would help alot but then i just found out the only thing that was helping it to get fixed was the heat from the device not the rom, but it doesnt hurt to play around with it a little so go ahead and try some other roms or repairs.
you see good reception for wifi
you try to connect
at the authorizing or connecting you will see only one point of signal and connection would kinda like disappear.
this is how it was for me but at the first days it was random it was connected good and ready, when i would left the phone in stand by after a few minutes it would DC, so i thought its kind of a sleep mode malfunction or something but after a few days almost 1-2 weeks it turned out to be hardware problem like ohers so if you see any symptom like that start looking for service centers.
but i hope it would be a software problem for you, so good luck.
Well, once he connects he stays on for days, no problem there... Just sometikes he refuses to connect... Pressing the nfc button doesnt help...
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Well, once he connects he stays on for days, no problem there... Just sometikes he refuses to connect... Pressing the nfc button doesnt help...
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What Wi-Fi channel is your network on and have you tried 5GHz?
Didn't look into those things, but it happens with all networks except ones without passwords
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Have you tried deleting wpa_supplicant.conf in data/misc/wifi and reconnecting to the network? (this will delete all saved passwords and settings for known wi-fi networks) also try to disable Auto IP in advanced wi-fi settings
Well the phone is qith my sister now, I got a new z1 so far wifi worka for her, it stoppes for a few hours yestarday but came back, I might try to flash. 310 and see if it works better with it. And the Wapa_sup sounds like a good idea. Btw z1 is also jittering some with wifi, it's a global Sony problem...
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temp solution?
Well, it is probably a hardware problem. I have had the same problem, everything looks fine, but you can't connect to any network.
So, searched, reinstalled, etcétera, nothing worked. Untill I read a crazy solution link://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/xperia-zr-wifi-association-rejected/td-p/516275/page/4
and found out that if you put pressure on the back of your pone right at the NFC chip, with a finger or so, the Wifi will come alive again.
Personally I had to hit my pone's back at that exact spot with my finger (for not damaging it with excesive force) a few times, but then suddenly it worked.
So, I am convinced it's a hardware problem. Hope it works for other people too.
Hey there. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this. A few days ago I updated to the latest rom from insertcoin. Since then I've had no data connection. Anything that requires Internet won't work. I've spent the day reflashing backups that I know are good but nothing worked. Tried different radios, checked apn settings and mobile data (which says I'm connected) without any success. In a moment of despair I reverted back to full stock hoping that it would solve the problem but again no joy.
At this stage I've run out of ideas which is why I've come grovelling to you guys. I couldn't find any solutions on Google, well nothing that helped. Everything looks like it's supposed to. Internet works over wifi but nothing works on mobile data. Any bright sparks out there with any suggestions ?
Cheers vinny
Vinny1967 said:
Hey there. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this. A few days ago I updated to the latest rom from insertcoin. Since then I've had no data connection. Anything that requires Internet won't work. I've spent the day reflashing backups that I know are good but nothing worked. Tried different radios, checked apn settings and mobile data (which says I'm connected) without any success. In a moment of despair I reverted back to full stock hoping that it would solve the problem but again no joy.
At this stage I've run out of ideas which is why I've come grovelling to you guys. I couldn't find any solutions on Google, well nothing that helped. Everything looks like it's supposed to. Internet works over wifi but nothing works on mobile data. Any bright sparks out there with any suggestions ?
Cheers vinny
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if you RUU back to stock and still have the problem you hardware failure not much we can do for you
try reseating the sim card
clsA said:
if you RUU back to stock and still have the problem you hardware failure not much we can do for you
try reseating the sim card
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Thanks for the reply.I don't think it's the sim card cause I've tried it on another phone and it works fine.Hardware failure sounds more likely.I'm always careful when it comes to treating my phone.If I dropped it or something then I'd first think about a hardware problem,but nothing unusual has happened.Could flashing roms actually damage hardware ?
I one time did read about change the tel name in direct wifi to htc one that shold help someone wrote
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