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Sorry for the vague title, but I don't know how to explain this in a short way.
I got my bill from Sprint today, and it was around $100 more than it should have been. I'm on the Everything Plus Referral plan, which of course includes Any Mobile, Anytime and includes Roaming. However, this bill is showing that even the calls to a friend on Sprint as Off Network(AM on bill). It also shows this to calls I made to people on Verizion. So they ended up charging me for 225 additional minutes, hence the extra $101.25. I'm currently running DamageControl v2.08.1. I haven't updated my PRL yet, so it's still 60664, but I don't think that should make a difference, considering I'm in a very small town and we don't get many new towers or carriers.
Sprint Tech Support is calling it a system glitch, and crediting the money back to me. They also refreshed my phone data.
I only rooted my phone maybe a month ago, so I'm still a newbie at this. So is there any way that could have caused this problem? I wouldn't think so, but I'd really appreciate those smarter than me to reassure me of this.
I haven't ever heard an issue like this before. I live in a crappy coverage area and haven't had any such issues since rooting my phone. It sounds like Sprint may be right calling it a system glitch, but I would keep an eye on your minute use online during this billing cycle just to be sure that it is fixed.
Thanks. I also forgot to mention that my phone has never said I was roaming, and I have every precaution in place - custom ringtone, alerts when receiving a call, and before using data services.
Hmm... it may just be that I'm tired, but isn't 2.08.1 an old version of DamageControl? If that's the case, then it is based on a Droid ERIS dump. Not sure why, but something may be conflicting since it's Verizon/Sprint.
I don't think that has anything to do with it, really. I've been running either DC2.08.1 or Aloysius (which is based off DC) and haven't ever had a problem like that.
It sounds like Sprint's system was not determining what was a landline and what wasn't. Since they gave you credit I wouldn't sweat it to much, but you might look and see if when you called a certain number if sometimes it was coming up as a mobile phone and other times a landline.
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Hmm... it may just be that I'm tired, but isn't 2.08.1 an old version of DamageControl? If that's the case, then it is based on a Droid ERIS dump. Not sure why, but something may be conflicting since it's Verizon/Sprint.
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You're wrong.
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It sounds like Sprint's system was not determining what was a landline and what wasn't. Since they gave you credit I wouldn't sweat it to much, but you might look and see if when you called a certain number if sometimes it was coming up as a mobile phone and other times a landline.
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This is the most likely cause.
Thanks everyone. I was just a bit paranoid since I'm new to all of this, and the glitch happened right around the time I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM. I feel much better now, as you guys know much more than I do about all of this.
EDIT: Ugh, Sprint just called a bit ago, and they're trying to tell me that I'm roaming like 90% of the time. Now, I have my phone set to Sprint Only, roaming alerts & special ringtones set, and I have NEVER even seen the roaming signal. I don't get what the problem is...is my phone just screwed up? I cannot afford an extra $100 on my bill, for something that is NOT my fault, and they're trying to tell me that they can't do anything because it's just my word saying that I'm not roaming.
*sigh* Looks like I'll have to un-root my phone so they can take it back and send me another.
Ok so I decided to remove all google related apps using console in recovery before booting into a freshly flashed ROM
First of all...the keylayout was all weird
As if it had not autodetected my tmobile keyboard (I have a rogers motherboard)...it was like that when I first put in the motherboard
So I rebooted into recovery and reinstalled google apps
I restarted and everything was fine.
I skipped signing in...
Then I removed all google apps from terminal emulator
And rebooted
It worked fine...everything was OK
But sometimes when I pick up my phone its off for some reason. I have to turn it back on.
Is this because I removed all google apps? Or is it just my motherboard flash memory getting worn out? Its the second phone it has been in...
Or is this because I have a rogers motherboard in a tmobile phone. Because there's one more thing I've noticed. With DangerSPL I boot into fastboot by pressing Call + Power. But with the 2708+ kernel spl Call + Power or Back + Power don't work. I have to go through Camera + Power then Back.
Hmmm...well I'm gonna leave it probably on adb logcat overnight and if it turns off ill see what's wrong
The roger's MoBo differs a little of the T-Mo one, starting by the KB layout.
You can check this wiki for some reasons to don't be using the 2708+ mod in Roger's MoBo, in section "Why not convert to a EBI0 Radio?": http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1
If you check on that same wiki, the Roger's version of G1 uses a 3.x radio, not the 2.x ones. If you install a 2.x radio on a Roger's... it will do some crazy things
By changing from a radio to another and all that, you'll not lose the avaibility to flash any of the roms that you're already using, the only thing needed to be changed is the kernel to use the apropiated specs of a Roger's MoBo.
Good idea to ckeck the logcat, and if u see some kernel hangs, it wouldn't be an bad idea to try with a 32A (Roger's) kernel and radio.
Hmmm well it didn't turn off
Logcat looked fine
Alls fine I guess
If anything starts going wrong I guess ill try
And maybe one day if I find a good reason to buy all the jtag tools ill fix my old one
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...And maybe one day if I find a good reason to buy all the jtag tools ill fix my old one
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I'll feel jealous if you do it... I can't buy that thing 'cause the place in the world that I live, and not having much money is a big trouble also
Wish you lot of fun if you get that stuff
Can't you buy it online?
And I'm short on money too (I'm only 15)
Hopefully it doesn't cost much
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Hopefully it doesn't cost much
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I don't think so, voltage regulators, soldier, so many cables needed, etc... it isn't just a cable USB-like, it's like 6 cables that must be soldered to the phone's MoBo, with electricity regulator and all that thing, kinda lab experiment thing xD!
And... who said I'm just short of money? Have to work to can at least live is a really common case here where I am. Not to mention have enough money conditions to buy electronics and PC's, it's kinda paradise here
Anyway, happy flashin' 'n playin' on ur phone
Do you have any issues with telephone or data service after changing the motherboard? I noticed the service manual calls for tuning the phone again after a motherboard change, so I wondered if it is really that sensitive or not. I have a broken phone with a good motherboard I wanted to use to fix another one with a bad motherboard, so I wondered if I could expect to run into trouble or not. Both are T-Mobile phones.
I would think just reflash radio, spl, and ROM and you're all good to go.
It works fine so far.
frankdrey is correct. i have gone threw 30+ g1s, i swap motherboard all the time (never a rogers into a ebi0 but im sure its ok) havent ran into any problems with the swap, but i always have rooted them and upgrade all about them. only real difference is that if for some reason you need to know the imei you cant look behind the battery but need to check in settings. common sense i know but just telling you the only difference i could see.
Thanks guys. I appreciate the real world experience, which is as I suspected. On the IMEI, I just moved the data sticker too. No trouble with GSM calls, or wifi. There's no 3G in the area though to check that.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the real world experience, which is as I suspected. On the IMEI, I just moved the data sticker too. No trouble with GSM calls, or wifi. There's no 3G in the area though to check that.
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Ah yes 3g probably will not work
Only 2g
3g works just fine, no difference in data speeds when swapping motherboards
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3g works just fine, no difference in data speeds when swapping motherboards
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Oh alright
I think its tmobile only
I'm not sure but I remember hearing that the rogers antenna....
Oh wait...were only switching the motherboard
The antenna is separate
Well then nevermind...
Thanks. Both motherboards are T-mobile.
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Thanks. Both motherboards are T-mobile.
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Oh then it definitely will be fine
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
As of right now, no.
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As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.
Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.
I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.
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All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860
Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.
Bump, any development?
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Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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danifunker said:
The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post
What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers
So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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so now you have a new phone with great speaker but 'no good ROM' available, hence HTC one is a crap? why don't you just make your own ROM, or sell it and buy another phone that fits your 'non-crap-Phone' category. HTC one is definitely not for you.
i take it u just registered to talk crap about the phone..good job..kid..u tried ur best and u failed miserably..the lesson is..never try
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So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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Just return it. Get something elc. And all those roms are just stock based, with minor tweaks from here and there, so they are not really developed from ground 0 like cm or aosp. So I think u should give stock a try and u will realise your signal bars are not much different. If not return it and get other phone plenty of good ones out there
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I apologize if I come off as talking crap about the phone. Don't get me wrong, I love the phone. That is why I got it again the first time I returned it. I'm just overall not happy with the ROM. I appreciate they putting work on it. I should already know and understand that Android is smooth and perfect like Windows or Apple phone. I came from Motorola Droid 2 global and the version 2.3 always crashed and restarted by itself, so it became a normal thing. Now even though it does that, it still have the functionally I like.
This HTC one however, you gotta be careful and delicate on it. I just want it to work.
The speaker are stereo.... Maybe that's why one side are a bit more louder.
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If your complaint is purely that the signal level shows 2 bars instead of 4, perhaps it will help to realise that the mapping between signal strength and bars is arbitrary.
Install an app that measures attenuation in dB and check to see if there is a real difference.
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I apologize if I come off as talking crap about the phone. Don't get me wrong, I love the phone. That is why I got it again the first time I returned it. I'm just overall not happy with the ROM. I appreciate they putting work on it. I should already know and understand that Android is smooth and perfect like Windows or Apple phone. I came from Motorola Droid 2 global and the version 2.3 always crashed and restarted by itself, so it became a normal thing. Now even though it does that, it still have the functionally I like.
This HTC one however, you gotta be careful and delicate on it. I just want it to work.
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http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
And for your information, the signal bars are purely cosmetic. It is a known fact that some carriers 'boost' their signal bars in order to appear as though they have a better connection, when in reality the signal is excatly the same. A simple search would have shown you this and you wouldn't of had to make this thread...
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So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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I heard the bars was a cosmetic issue with AT&T. It will just show it's lower. Here's a snippet from Android Revolution explaining this in OP. (Refer to upload) Here's the link to the thread. The image seems to be very low in quality. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023) It's in the FAQ section. You can search "Cosmetic" to find it.
As far as your 1st issue, you can't really complain about that. Not every device is perfect. You just happened to have gotten that one. (Oh yea, I said it. LoL!!) You aren't the only one. (Did it again. ) I'm sure you can find some threads with people saying their "my S4 is doing this and I don't know why. This phone sux". My E4GT had HORRIBLE battery life. I don't know why. It was just me, too. My phone would die within 12 hours and 1 hour of screen time. After using DS Battery Saver, I was able to get 24 hours with 1 hour of screen time. My stand-by time was horrible. I'm doing nothing new on my HTC One. I guess that phone was crap right?
No matter where you go, there will be issues. I know the iPhone 5 is experiencing unusual standby battery drain. And it's not isolated like my E4GT was.
Your issue was isolated and not widespread. So that's one (I couldn't avoid that one (That as well)) out of the few millions they've sold. Sounds like a good track record to me.
Thanks guys. I know it's cosmetic BUT it shouldn't have to be like that. Is it a hard fix to do? It's like having a girlfriend who can cook but doesn't want to cook. lol Ok bad analogy. haha
It was fine on the stock ROM. I love the ROM and how better it is than stock ROM. That's really the only thing that ticks me off. I guess I have to live with it.
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http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
And for your information, the signal bars are purely cosmetic. It is a known fact that some carriers 'boost' their signal bars in order to appear as though they have a better connection, when in reality the signal is excatly the same. A simple search would have shown you this and you wouldn't of had to make this thread...
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Oh no!!!!!!!..................... the A word again.
You'll get banned for being offensive
Seriously though the One is a great phone and the custom roms are good in my opinion. You just need to try the options available until you find the rom that suits you best. We all have our preferences.
Seriously though the One is a great phone and the custom roms are good in my opinion. You just need to try the options available until you find the rom that suits you best. We all have our preferences.
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Well said.
So I recently bought my M8 and would love to root, but there have been a lot of reports of issues with data because of csfb issues. I have not had this issue, but if I do start having it or any other issue, I want to be able to go back to stock and return my phone to Sprint. I am currently in the 14 day return period and I have insurance. On my last phone, I was rooted and was having issues with my battery and went back to Sprint, and the guy there told me that he could not work on it if it was rooted. He was a pretty cool guy, but he made is sound like it was a really big deal that I rooted. I have searched on all the Sprint M8 threads and I can't find a way to go back to stock. And I mean completely stock. Finding a stock ROM, Kernel, and recovery is easy, but I am not sure about s-on and locking the bootloader. I don't want the bootloader to say "re-locked" at the top because that is a dead giveaway that I unlocked. Is there currently no way to go completely stock?
As of now there is no public RUU and without that you won't get completely back to stock.
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You don't need an RUU for your device to "look" stock. Restore that stock nandroid that's floating around, flash stock recovery, and take the OTA.
As long as you're S-OFF, you can change the flag to LOCKED and then go back S-ON.
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So I recently bought my M8 and would love to root, but there have been a lot of reports of issues with data because of csfb issues. I have not had this issue, but if I do start having it or any other issue, I want to be able to go back to stock and return my phone to Sprint. I am currently in the 14 day return period and I have insurance. On my last phone, I was rooted and was having issues with my battery and went back to Sprint, and the guy there told me that he could not work on it if it was rooted. He was a pretty cool guy, but he made is sound like it was a really big deal that I rooted. I have searched on all the Sprint M8 threads and I can't find a way to go back to stock. And I mean completely stock. Finding a stock ROM, Kernel, and recovery is easy, but I am not sure about s-on and locking the bootloader. I don't want the bootloader to say "re-locked" at the top because that is a dead giveaway that I unlocked. Is there currently no way to go completely stock?
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What is the data issue you are writing about? I think I am suffering from it, can you elaborate?
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What is the data issue you are writing about? I think I am suffering from it, can you elaborate?
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Basically people are having issues with connection. I'm not going to fully explain this because it is quite complicated and to be honest, I don't even fully understand it. But because this is a tri band phone (sprint spark) it relies on the network to tell it when you switch from different bands and when to switch from an LTE connection back to a 1x connection for voice calls. The phone only has one data transmission path, so it can't be connected to LTE and 1x (voice network) at the same time. It has to be one or the other. That's why you can't use mobile data while in a call. This works perfectly fine when the tower you are connected to has been upgraded and has the correct csfb fallback switches in place. But the problem is, a lot of towers don't. This causes huge problems for spark phones. All spark phones have this issue; the. Samsung Galaxy s5, LG G2,and the Nexus 5. But a lot of people have been having issues with this phone being really bad. Sometimes people can't receive/send texts or calls, and sometimes they can't connect to mobile data at all, no matter where they go. Originally it was thought to be an issue with sprint and what I described earlier, but people noticed that if they swapped out the phone for a new one, the issue went away. This isn't true for everyone, but that solved the issues for a lot of people. The general idea now is that it mainly seemed to affect people that ordered the M8 online early on. It doesn't seem to be affecting the phones bought from stores recently as much. Someone also claimed that the phones were provisioned incorrectly and that was causing it. But nobody really knows. If you are having an issue like I described, I would go back to where you bought it from and tell them you want to exchange it.
Also, if someone notices anything I said was incorrect, please call me out on it. As far as I know it's all correct, but I could easily be wrong.
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I don't want to sound like a total idiot, but I guess their no way around it, I haven't used a HTC product since my Hero days, So let me make sure I understand what you are saying, flash my stock rooted nandroid, find a stock recovery zip and flash, then do I used terminal to lock my bootloader, or do I flash another zip? Then where does the OTA come in at? Now after reading this and the rolling of the eyes, I just wanted to make sure I didn't make a mistake, and this will have me back to stock without root ? I will like to thanks in advance for your patients.
suicidal acorn said:
Basically people are having issues with connection. I'm not going to fully explain this because it is quite complicated and to be honest, I don't even fully understand it. But because this is a tri band phone (sprint spark) it relies on the network to tell it when you switch from different bands and when to switch from an LTE connection back to a 1x connection for voice calls. The phone only has one data transmission path, so it can't be connected to LTE and 1x (voice network) at the same time. It has to be one or the other. That's why you can't use mobile data while in a call. This works perfectly fine when the tower you are connected to has been upgraded and has the correct csfb fallback switches in place. But the problem is, a lot of towers don't. This causes huge problems for spark phones. All spark phones have this issue; the. Samsung Galaxy s5, LG G2,and the Nexus 5. But a lot of people have been having issues with this phone being really bad. Sometimes people can't receive/send texts or calls, and sometimes they can't connect to mobile data at all, no matter where they go. Originally it was thought to be an issue with sprint and what I described earlier, but people noticed that if they swapped out the phone for a new one, the issue went away. This isn't true for everyone, but that solved the issues for a lot of people. The general idea now is that it mainly seemed to affect people that ordered the M8 online early on. It doesn't seem to be affecting the phones bought from stores recently as much. Someone also claimed that the phones were provisioned incorrectly and that was causing it. But nobody really knows. If you are having an issue like I described, I would go back to where you bought it from and tell them you want to exchange it.
Also, if someone notices anything I said was incorrect, please call me out on it. As far as I know it's all correct, but I could easily be wrong.
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Good explanation. On my note 3 I was consistently hitting no less than 10 mbps at my house. On my M8 I was getting 2-20 MBPS at my house, with NO consistency. No issues with calling/texting, however. I recieved my M8 on the 11th (same day as the s5 came out, expecting chaos) and was getting okay signal in my house. Now a few days later it seems someone is pointing a cell phone jammer at me. I lose connection completely, then it goes back to slow speeds, about twice per minute. Same thing with calling and texting though. I REALLY do not want to go through the entire process of going back to stock to ship it back to amazon, so I am hoping it has something to do with sprints towers since I was alright the first few days.
robbnice said:
I don't want to sound like a total idiot, but I guess their no way around it, I haven't used a HTC product since my Hero days, So let me make sure I understand what you are saying, flash my stock rooted nandroid, find a stock recovery zip and flash, then do I used terminal to lock my bootloader, or do I flash another zip? Then where does the OTA come in at? Now after reading this and the rolling of the eyes, I just wanted to make sure I didn't make a mistake, and this will have me back to stock without root ? I will like to thanks in advance for your patients.
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Haha I completely understand the position you are in. I was in that position not too long ago. You do almost exactly what you said. Flash stock rom (NOT stock rooted though) and stock recovery, then lock the bootloader through adb. And that will pretty much return you to stock, but your bootloader will say "re-locked" at the top instead of "locked." So it's obvious that you've unlocked at some point. If everything else is stock, I doubt anyone would question it and you would more than likely be fine, but I like to be extra safe. I know with my previous phone (EVO LTE) if you were s-off, you could run a tool that made it say "locked" instead of "re-locked" so I would imagine you could do the same for this phone, but as far as I'm aware, you can't yet. I guess we'll just have to wait for a dev to make a tool for that.
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suicidal acorn said:
Haha I completely understand the position you are in. I was in that position not too long ago. You do almost exactly what you said. Flash stock rom (NOT stock rooted though) and stock recovery, then lock the bootloader through adb. And that will pretty much return you to stock, but your bootloader will say "re-locked" at the top instead of "locked." So it's obvious that you've unlocked at some point. If everything else is stock, I doubt anyone would question it and you would more than likely be fine, but I like to be extra safe. I know with my previous phone (EVO LTE) if you were s-off, you could run a tool that made it say "locked" instead of "re-locked" so I would imagine you could do the same for this phone, but as far as I'm aware, you can't yet. I guess we'll just have to wait for a dev to make a tool for that.
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Yes you can. I said that in my explanation. There's no tool, it's a procedure.
And this procedure properly sets the flag rather than masking it.
Captain_Throwback said:
Yes you can. I said that in my explanation. There's no tool, it's a procedure.
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Can you post a link? I looked all over for it and couldn't find it. That's awesome though! Thank you!
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suicidal acorn said:
Can you post a link? I looked all over for it and couldn't find it. That's awesome though! Thank you!
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I did a search on "HTC M8 locked bootloader" in Tapatalk, and this thread was in the results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51700453
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I did a search on "HTC M8 locked bootloader" in Tapatalk, and this thread was in the results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51700453
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Ahhh I was just looking in the Sprint forums. Not the general forums. ?
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redmanjoey said:
Good explanation. On my note 3 I was consistently hitting no less than 10 mbps at my house. On my M8 I was getting 2-20 MBPS at my house, with NO consistency. No issues with calling/texting, however. I recieved my M8 on the 11th (same day as the s5 came out, expecting chaos) and was getting okay signal in my house. Now a few days later it seems someone is pointing a cell phone jammer at me. I lose connection completely, then it goes back to slow speeds, about twice per minute. Same thing with calling and texting though. I REALLY do not want to go through the entire process of going back to stock to ship it back to amazon, so I am hoping it has something to do with sprints towers since I was alright the first few days.
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Glad I'm not the only one... My data and cell service have been not connecting all day today after a couple days with no issues ... Definitely going to be returning this one
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iDoc21 said:
Glad I'm not the only one... My data and cell service have been not connecting all day today after a couple days with no issues ... Definitely going to be returning this one
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I am so dissapointed, but I dont know wether to blame HTC or Sprint. No matter where I am I get the same crap, I went a few miles away where I know the heart of sprint spark connection lies, but still get really bad connection. I'm just going to return it to amazon, then buy it from best buy so if this crap happens I don't waste days and days of getting it shipped back to amazon.
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Captain_Throwback said:
You don't need an RUU for your device to "look" stock. Restore that stock nandroid that's floating around, flash stock recovery, and take the OTA.
As long as you're S-OFF, you can change the flag to LOCKED and then go back S-ON.
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How does one get the stock nandroid? I have also searched and cant find it. Then I just flash it like a normal rom? I need to ship this back to amazon, I dont think they will check the bootloader and stuff but for sure a rom with missing apps will surely trigger them.
Could you point me in direction of a link or location where I can find a stock M8 rom and recovery, trying to get back to Stock so I can return phone to Sprint for another M8 after having the problem with my Spark and signal that everyone else is having. Plan on using Captain_Throwback method for my Hboot, just need to have the Rom and stock recovery to get this show on the road. Thanks in advance and thanks for your patience dealing with noobs !
redmanjoey said:
I am so dissapointed, but I dont know wether to blame HTC or Sprint. No matter where I am I get the same crap, I went a few miles away where I know the heart of sprint spark connection lies, but still get really bad connection. I'm just going to return it to amazon, then buy it from best buy so if this crap happens I don't waste days and days of getting it shipped back to amazon.
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Sprint is trying to get their network working properly, but it's not an easy task. The upgrades have to be done to each tower and that takes time. Not only does Sprint have to have the work done, they have to get a permit for each tower first. Some places that is easy enough, but some other places the government is very strict with work permits and it takes forever to get one. It could quite possibly be an issue with your phone, but it could also be an issue with the network. If you get a replacement and still experience issues, it's the network. If the issue goes away, then it was the phone. Unfortunately, I'm most cases it's really hard to tell until you get the replacement. But in your case, I'm almost certain it's an issue with your phone.
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redmanjoey said:
How does one get the stock nandroid? I have also searched and cant find it. Then I just flash it like a normal rom? I need to ship this back to amazon, I dont think they will check the bootloader and stuff but for sure a rom with missing apps will surely trigger them.
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robbnice said:
Could you point me in direction of a link or location where I can find a stock M8 rom and recovery, trying to get back to Stock so I can return phone to Sprint for another M8 after having the problem with my Spark and signal that everyone else is having. Plan on using Captain_Throwback method for my Hboot, just need to have the Rom and stock recovery to get this show on the road. Thanks in advance and thanks for your patience dealing with noobs !
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I honestly don't know where to find one. I've seen it mentioned multiple times, but I've read like 30 threads for this phone in the last couple days. Tomorrow I will he unlocking and I can send you guys the stock nandroid for the system, but I don't know about recovery. I'll try to find it and let you know.
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Guys, check out @BD619's rooting thread here. He has the stock recovery included in his guide. You can download it here.
suicidal acorn said:
I honestly don't know where to find one. I've seen it mentioned multiple times, but I've read like 30 threads for this phone in the last couple days. Tomorrow I will he unlocking and I can send you guys the stock nandroid for the system, but I don't know about recovery. I'll try to find it and let you know.
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Stock nandroid here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51624633