Frustrated, phone is crap - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.

chillingrsx said:
So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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so now you have a new phone with great speaker but 'no good ROM' available, hence HTC one is a crap? why don't you just make your own ROM, or sell it and buy another phone that fits your 'non-crap-Phone' category. HTC one is definitely not for you.

i take it u just registered to talk crap about the phone..good job..kid..u tried ur best and u failed miserably..the lesson is..never try

chillingrsx said:
So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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Just return it. Get something elc. And all those roms are just stock based, with minor tweaks from here and there, so they are not really developed from ground 0 like cm or aosp. So I think u should give stock a try and u will realise your signal bars are not much different. If not return it and get other phone plenty of good ones out there
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I apologize if I come off as talking crap about the phone. Don't get me wrong, I love the phone. That is why I got it again the first time I returned it. I'm just overall not happy with the ROM. I appreciate they putting work on it. I should already know and understand that Android is smooth and perfect like Windows or Apple phone. I came from Motorola Droid 2 global and the version 2.3 always crashed and restarted by itself, so it became a normal thing. Now even though it does that, it still have the functionally I like.
This HTC one however, you gotta be careful and delicate on it. I just want it to work.

The speaker are stereo.... Maybe that's why one side are a bit more louder.
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If your complaint is purely that the signal level shows 2 bars instead of 4, perhaps it will help to realise that the mapping between signal strength and bars is arbitrary.
Install an app that measures attenuation in dB and check to see if there is a real difference.

chillingrsx said:
I apologize if I come off as talking crap about the phone. Don't get me wrong, I love the phone. That is why I got it again the first time I returned it. I'm just overall not happy with the ROM. I appreciate they putting work on it. I should already know and understand that Android is smooth and perfect like Windows or Apple phone. I came from Motorola Droid 2 global and the version 2.3 always crashed and restarted by itself, so it became a normal thing. Now even though it does that, it still have the functionally I like.
This HTC one however, you gotta be careful and delicate on it. I just want it to work.
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http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
And for your information, the signal bars are purely cosmetic. It is a known fact that some carriers 'boost' their signal bars in order to appear as though they have a better connection, when in reality the signal is excatly the same. A simple search would have shown you this and you wouldn't of had to make this thread...

chillingrsx said:
So this is my first HTC phone. I never really like the name "HTC", To me, it sounds cheap and no quality. And no quality it is. Had the phone for about a month now. The first one, speaker went crap on me. One side is louder than the other side. You can tell the difference when you cover one side with your thumb and vice versa. Returned it back.
So with a new phone, I'm happy but then again still frustrated on there aren't any really good ROM out there. It's like whenever they released a new version, they fix few things but the other few things also went crap. The new Android Revolution, for some reason, no matter if I install it as ATT or International, IT ALWAYS SHOW TWO BARS EVERYWHERE I GO. My area is always a full 4-5 bars. Can someone help with this? The old Trickdroid 5.51 or something like that show good status on the bars. But the new version of Trickdroid 5.56 now have the same problem as the Android Revolution.
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I heard the bars was a cosmetic issue with AT&T. It will just show it's lower. Here's a snippet from Android Revolution explaining this in OP. (Refer to upload) Here's the link to the thread. The image seems to be very low in quality. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023) It's in the FAQ section. You can search "Cosmetic" to find it.
As far as your 1st issue, you can't really complain about that. Not every device is perfect. You just happened to have gotten that one. (Oh yea, I said it. LoL!!) You aren't the only one. (Did it again. ) I'm sure you can find some threads with people saying their "my S4 is doing this and I don't know why. This phone sux". My E4GT had HORRIBLE battery life. I don't know why. It was just me, too. My phone would die within 12 hours and 1 hour of screen time. After using DS Battery Saver, I was able to get 24 hours with 1 hour of screen time. My stand-by time was horrible. I'm doing nothing new on my HTC One. I guess that phone was crap right?
No matter where you go, there will be issues. I know the iPhone 5 is experiencing unusual standby battery drain. And it's not isolated like my E4GT was.
Your issue was isolated and not widespread. So that's one (I couldn't avoid that one (That as well)) out of the few millions they've sold. Sounds like a good track record to me.

Thanks guys. I know it's cosmetic BUT it shouldn't have to be like that. Is it a hard fix to do? It's like having a girlfriend who can cook but doesn't want to cook. lol Ok bad analogy. haha
It was fine on the stock ROM. I love the ROM and how better it is than stock ROM. That's really the only thing that ticks me off. I guess I have to live with it.

MacHackz said:
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
And for your information, the signal bars are purely cosmetic. It is a known fact that some carriers 'boost' their signal bars in order to appear as though they have a better connection, when in reality the signal is excatly the same. A simple search would have shown you this and you wouldn't of had to make this thread...
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Oh no!!!!!!!..................... the A word again.
You'll get banned for being offensive
Seriously though the One is a great phone and the custom roms are good in my opinion. You just need to try the options available until you find the rom that suits you best. We all have our preferences.

Seriously though the One is a great phone and the custom roms are good in my opinion. You just need to try the options available until you find the rom that suits you best. We all have our preferences.
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Well said.

Related

Which phone should I get?

So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
Maybe get a fuze that works properly? I really have no suggestions other than that.
The best phone to get would obviously be the Fuze. However, if you want some money, then i suggest you get an iPhone (16gb), sell it on eBay and then you'll have a lot cash to buy a new phone (and even have some left over).
Good to know iphoney is out of the question!
If looking for something not too expensive I would recommend Universal because it´s great keyboard and screen!
If $ is not a problem check Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2
Good luck,
PwnCakes193 said:
So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
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Goes to show that WinMo is not for the weak, the noob, and the ones who don't have time. Get a Blackjack or something. that would suit you.
Btw, I think by any phone, the guy would've probably meant that any phone from at&t and I still find your story highly unlikely cause normal people do not get calls from anyone "VERY" high so to say even if you've been a customer of AT&T since it began. I highly doubt it. But sure, I suggest only 3 phones for you. BB Bold, BB Curve, Samsung BlackJack.
If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
galaxys said:
If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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AT&T is not selling those phones yet.
and yeah, that story is unlikely, not saying you made it up, but the person was probably a tech support supervisor, or manager.
get the iphone. if the X1 is sold through AT&T(which i dont think it is) then get that, other then that, if you dont like to customize your phone, dont get a HTC, get a LG incite or something of that nature.
the person who called me was the Vice-President of Customer Support, I found her email adress on AT&T's website and sent her an email. Got a call 3 days later I can post the link if you guys don't believe me
I do like tinkering with my phone, but only to an extent. I need a long battery for everyday trips, and I need a phone with great signal strength.
I have been with AT&T for 8 years, landline and cellular service. And my Dad's side of the line holds the entire companies phone systems, and theres around 1500 phones. AT&T would not want to lose business
Alright, so a little update, and this was great.....
I get....
A brand new Blackberry Bold
I get to keep my Fuze
And I get 200 dollars in credit
Sell the blackberry,
get a new Fuze thats not defective
Send me the credit for my bills!

Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation

So what if any issues have you had with your stock nexus1 ? Has rooting helped or hurt?
I love my G1 but it will be time to upgrade soon. Ive just done a wipe and upgrade to cm 5.0.8 DS and like it so far.
Id love to have a rooted N1 but the horror stories with post as recent as today about wifi,trackball & screen issues make me reconsider. So far I don't know of anything else in the same ballpark that will work on Tmobile.
Thanks for any input
G1 rooted with cyanogen 5.0.8 DS
Xda app
I have not seen any issues with wifi, trackball nor screen. I been the owner of my Nexus One for over 2 months already and I can tell you, This was the best investment ever. Now, with custom ROMs you can improve the functionality of the Phone by a lot. 720p video, faster, wifi n, radio fm maybe? etc...
The N1 has very good hardware, it has things that may be officially unlocked in the near future who knows, though they are already unlocked for custom roms.
Also good to have if you plan to be the base for Android, Since Google will use the N1 as their main device, everything will be optimized for you. (That's my bet, we all saw it with Froyo Demos)
It's fine. 99% of the people wit thing are happy with it, the 1% with problems are understandably vocal. I have two N1's on my account mine (which is rooted) and my girlfriends (which isn't rooted, but has been running the Froyo test ROM for a while). Both work great.
I loved my G1. Probably the phone I loved most when I had it.
The N1 is a better phone in almost every single way ((I was able to change alot of the hardware kb/tb/covers etc on G1)) which is why i loved it.
Nexus One is a leap ahead of every phone prior to April its not even funny. Dont hesitate the N1 >> > and >> over any other phone on Tmobile right now. I love the Mytouch slide but the power ability of N1 are a much better choice.
IMO N1 still has best overall feature set in HW/SW available on the market. Even though that lead has slimmed its still the best you can get right now.
The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
they arent problems, just people complaining vocally. the wifi works great, the screen works great, and i've never heard of any trackball issues. go for it you wont regret it.
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The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
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My exact situation, and thoughts. I actually have my 3GS in the cabinet here at my desk because I thought I might want to switch back and forth, but I haven't touched my 3GS since the N1 showed up in the mail.
That's exact what I'd like in an N1 and get a 8" or less touchpad running android later lol
Now I need to decide on a renewal or pay full price
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Ok so after checking the Google page I qualify for an upgrade and with overnight shipping ( which oddly is the same as ground shipping) for $313.38
Does T-mobile charge anything else?
My current plan is the MyFaves 1000 and I guess will be the Even more individual 500 plan. which wont be so bad now that everyone texts rather than calls, and there is wifi calling
issues
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
Haven't had any voice issues at all on Fido in Canada.
Your voice as in people you call cant hear you?
Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation
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Why? If you don't like it, return it. If you like it and you have a problem with it, HTC will fix or replace it under warranty.
Honestly, the "reports" on this or that regarding Nexus One deficiencies were broadcasted much louder than any other phone because of the hype surrounding the device. In reality, they are the same few and far between issues you'd find with any other phone on the market.
From someone who used to swap phones as frequently as once every month, I have been using the Nexus One since launch day, had problems with the first AT&T version I bought, and had HTC replace it. Not a problem since.
Where do these reputations come from? the dust issue is the only real one ive seen and htc has fixed the glue problem. its a great phone buy it.
midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I've never had this issue on Rogers and I've installed practically every ROM available.
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
benricosan said:
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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1. Swype. I'll never go back.
2. The possibility is there for an app to have it.
Back to topic, I love my N1. I kept it stock for a few months, but I rooted it about a month ago and somehow, the phone is that much better. It's a staple of what I have the freedom to do now. AGPS + nav is phenomenal and comes with the phone. The camera is great. Video can now be shot at 720p (if rooted), and will soon come to Froyo. The hardware is crazy fast, Javascript 2.1 vs 2.2 vs iPad, 40+MFLOPS performance. And, since this is Google's baby, it will be the first to receive updates like Froyo.
The touch surface isn't as bad as people are making it seem, and if you're really up for gaming you can hook a wii-mote to it. Talking on the phone is fine. I occasionally have a weird call, but my friend with an iPhone drops/no-connects calls way more than me.
It has it's quirks. The antenna is located at the bottom of the phone. The reception isn't the best, and T-Mobile doesn't have the strongest signal. I work in a office building/warehouse, and getting 3G in some parts of the first floor (built on a hill, sometimes underground sometimes not) is difficult. A few N1s have had dust under the screen (fixed from what I've heard). Other than that... The phone is excellent.
midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I also got the AT&T Phone, but No Issues with voice or anything like that.
The only downside of AT&T phones are.... NO FROYO GOD DAMN IT... well just yet.
pass and wqit
pass on the n1. I own an n1 for a few months now and HATE THE 3G ISSUESthat it has. also miss the physical keyboard... your g1s keyboard is great and I'd toss this nexus for a snapdragon g1 in a heartbeat.
I'd also suggest not renewing your contract so youccan chose any phone.... any carrier.
two cents
That's Funny
Haha, reluctant to go from the G1 to nexus? I guess I kinda understand. I went from my G1 to the Nexus 6 months ago and god damn I haven't thought twice about that decision! Rooting your phone just makes things that much more fun too!

The Waiting Room - Off-Topic Chat

While everyone is waiting for their phones, I thought I would start a thread where we could just talk without worrying about going off-topic. If you want to talk about how other phones compare to the Sprint HTC One, rant about rotten fruit and the vegetables that use them, etc, than this is the place.
Just please remember that all of the forum rules still apply here though.
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So what phones are everyone going to be coming from? I'm happy to say I won't be using my Nexus S 4G anymore. The thing was great for the time, but it's definitely showing its age now. Actually being able to take advantage of Network Vision now is gonna be great as well.
will be coming over from the evo lte.
EVO 3D. It is a solid phone but ready for something new.
Biggest worry with this phone is going to be the camera and how hard will it be to get working on ASOP or CM ROMS. This was the biggest frustration with the 3D. Finally they got the camera working but without 3D which I am fine with.
srb7215 said:
EVO 3D. It is a solid phone but ready for something new.
Biggest worry with this phone is going to be the camera and how hard will it be to get working on ASOP or CM ROMS. This was the biggest frustration with the 3D. Finally they got the camera working but without 3D which I am fine with.
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The camera on the 3D was difficult to get working because of the drivers needed because there were two cameras. If there is only one I think it would have been more straightforward as Sensation never had quite that difficulty.
Hopefully this means devs will not have as much problem with getting the camera to work on Non-Sense based ROMs.
I'll be coming from my good ole GNex. I always try to buy a new phone every year around my birthday. GNex was last year, Evo3D before that, and OG Evo before that.
Coming from EVO 3D. My battery barely lasts 1/2 a day without actually using it. It will literally be at 20% from fully charged within approximately 4-5 hours without using the phone. At all. For anything. It wasn't as bad when it was new, but it was never good to begin with. It also heats up quite a bit which was really nice when it was cold. Now that Spring has arrived, I really don't want hot pants. I know the HTC One's battery ain't great, but it's gotta be better than the EVO 3D. I know I could just get a new battery or look for which one of my 200 apps I've installed causing the drain, but then I saw the HTC One...
Anyone else keep checking their pre-order progress? I click on my Newegg Wireless (Simplicity LLC) confirmation email for my Black 32GB like 4 times a day to check on the status.
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The camera on the 3D was difficult to get working because of the drivers needed because there were two cameras. If there is only one I think it would have been more straightforward as Sensation never had quite that difficulty.
Hopefully this means devs will not have as much problem with getting the camera to work on Non-Sense based ROMs.
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Yeah, this is what I am hoping for. When the One first was announced, I was reluctant to go that way because the camera seemed like it might be a hindrance again.
I have heard people say that HTC is going to try and release code quicker which should help as well.
to recoup some cost of buying fullprice >.> i sold my e4gt on glyde for about 170. I'm thinking i underpriced it cuz it sold in a matter of hours
If I can somehow talk myself into buying off contract and pay the full price I'll be coming from the EVO 4G LTE. Still mulling over it; $549 is a lot of dinero.
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to recoup some cost of buying fullprice >.> i sold my e4gt on glyde for about 170. I'm thinking i underpriced it cuz it sold in a matter of hours
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I had a G-NEX for a few months before switching over to my Fiancee's account on Sprint (Figured I would cut down on monthly costs) and at the time the only monetarily valuable phone was the iPhone 5... I've been patiently waiting for something to come out and so I finally sold that and Pre-Ordered yesterday.
Right now I am using my fiancee's EVO Design 4g and I am going crazy with how slow it is. I just installed Evolvr Rom with an older kernel and overclocked it to 2ghz... hopefully that will hold me over until this comes out next week, but my fingers are still crossed for early delivery.
Coming from the EVO 4G LTE :good:
Will be switching from my trusty Samsung Epic 4G! I'm so excited to finally get rid of that darned physical keyboard...
Kinda lusting after either the One or the Galaxy S4. I hear multiple gasps and the sound of torches being lit, let me explain....
My biggest concern isn't so much battery life, screen resolution, storage, etc., but more: when I get to rooting and installing ROMs, whenever something's gone wrong with my trusty ol' OG EVO, there's few things that a battery pull and boot into recovery/reflash/restore couldn't fix. If the One locks up, no removable battery.
Having said that, I'm sure there's a good many people with Nexuses (Nexes? Nexii?) and other non-removable batteries out there who're flashing ROMs and have a way to get out of a bootloop or freeze. All else being equal, I think I'll shoot for the One once it's time to upgrade. HTC's done well for me with my first Android/smartphone, and it sounds like it'll be a great phone.
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Kinda lusting after either the One or the Galaxy S4. I hear multiple gasps and the sound of torches being lit, let me explain....
My biggest concern isn't so much battery life, screen resolution, storage, etc., but more: when I get to rooting and installing ROMs, whenever something's gone wrong with my trusty ol' OG EVO, there's few things that a battery pull and boot into recovery/reflash/restore couldn't fix. If the One locks up, no removable battery.
Having said that, I'm sure there's a good many people with Nexuses (Nexes? Nexii?) and other non-removable batteries out there who're flashing ROMs and have a way to get out of a bootloop or freeze. All else being equal, I think I'll shoot for the One once it's time to upgrade. HTC's done well for me with my first Android/smartphone, and it sounds like it'll be a great phone.
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You don't have to worry about pulling the battery if you no boot or bootloop. There is a hardware key combination that phones with non-removable batteries use to force reset. This is hardwired in not software.
Joshmccullough said:
Kinda lusting after either the One or the Galaxy S4. I hear multiple gasps and the sound of torches being lit, let me explain....
My biggest concern isn't so much battery life, screen resolution, storage, etc., but more: when I get to rooting and installing ROMs, whenever something's gone wrong with my trusty ol' OG EVO, there's few things that a battery pull and boot into recovery/reflash/restore couldn't fix. If the One locks up, no removable battery.
Having said that, I'm sure there's a good many people with Nexuses (Nexes? Nexii?) and other non-removable batteries out there who're flashing ROMs and have a way to get out of a bootloop or freeze. All else being equal, I think I'll shoot for the One once it's time to upgrade. HTC's done well for me with my first Android/smartphone, and it sounds like it'll be a great phone.
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No big deal with the non removable battery. Iirc power and volume up and down simulate a battery pull at least on the Evo lte.
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Joshmccullough said:
Kinda lusting after either the One or the Galaxy S4. I hear multiple gasps and the sound of torches being lit, let me explain....
My biggest concern isn't so much battery life, screen resolution, storage, etc., but more: when I get to rooting and installing ROMs, whenever something's gone wrong with my trusty ol' OG EVO, there's few things that a battery pull and boot into recovery/reflash/restore couldn't fix. If the One locks up, no removable battery.
Having said that, I'm sure there's a good many people with Nexuses (Nexes? Nexii?) and other non-removable batteries out there who're flashing ROMs and have a way to get out of a bootloop or freeze. All else being equal, I think I'll shoot for the One once it's time to upgrade. HTC's done well for me with my first Android/smartphone, and it sounds like it'll be a great phone.
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I had the same worry. Similar experiences with the SD Card. Forget to dealt the right file in the bootloader menu it was very easy just to pull the sd card and delete the file.
But I also think this is where the industry is going and I like the look of the phone too much to go to Samsung. Just can't enjoy TouchWiz. While i tend to have CM or ASOP running, I do enjoy Sense as well. Nice to have options. So I figure it is time to learn a new way of doing things.
So, I checked with Best Buy and, while they won't match the pre-order price at Sprint (full device price, not upgrade price), they will match at release date. With that being said, think Sprint will retain the existing price at least 1 or 2 days after it's released? I'd hate to spend the inflated BB price to lock in the pre-order only to be unable to get that $150 refund.
Query
Getting One tomorrow (can't wait) and i will, of course be rooting it and flashing a customer rom. However I can only find topics the AT &T and Sprint version in the main forum index page. I live in the UK, and please forgive if this is stupid question, but is there a developed for the UK version?

Retitled. How to hose your phone in 35 easy steps. :)

To be fair to HTC/Sprint I retitled this. As the phone is not representative of a normal M8 (either by hardware or corrupted/miss programming).
Long story.
If you want the short version, "This phone sucks" (and by the way so does the S5).
Here is the long version.
Bought the phone first day.
HTC Unlocked and Rooted it as soon at it was available. Applied S-OFF as soon as it was available.
I had not much time to play with it and stayed on Stock and have WIFI on full time which is used at work and home.
Couple days ago I decided to try some ROMs (being very patient for things to mature a bit). I tried Barebones, pretty good ROM. Note I had "dirty flashed it".
Then I took my first long trip since I got the phone. 100 miles into the boonies.
It popped up "Roaming Guard every 2 minutes", every call. But it was still running ok.
I had forgot to shut the roaming guard off (or it was locked out by the time I though of it).
This is a known issue and happened on M7as well. Most reliable way to deal with it, is to full wipe in order to disable it. (I tried all the tricks).
Well at this time OMJ released his "Harman" ROM and Firmware.
Well I guess it's a good time to start clean, wipe and switch to OMJ's Harmon ROM (and firmware) (whom I've been a loyal customer of)
So this stupid Roaming Guard thing keeps coming and going as I sort out which ROM I want, restoring things with TB etc.
But now, my phone is "stuck is 1X". WTF. And if it does occasionally show 3G as soon as I use it, it drops out completely or reverts to 1X.
So now I think I hosed something really bad. Can't get 3G at home or work. My wifes HTC One M7 is fine (running OMJ's BadBoys ROM)
Updated Profiles, played with PRL's.
So I put it all back to factory (except S-ON) and used the HBOOT that hides that's it's S-OFF.
And flashed the closest Stock ROM I could find (which so happened to get no Data or Voice at all). Perfect !!
Then took it to sprint store, and it was a sharp kid and he said it was rooted and nicely handed it back. He suggested I add T.E.P. and "try again".
Well I figured I'll have to S-ON it. And stopped in another store to added T.E.P. just in case. I had like 2 days left.
So I was gonna go home S-ON it and go to another Sprint "repair" Store but decided I really needed to get to some other commitments.
So I restored a backup and on the road and the phone was back to "Normal" except for the stupid Roaming Guard thing. WTF.
Then it hit me. The new ROM from OMJ was telling me what my REAL network was doing and the stock ROM was lying through it's teeth.
I'm well aware of Developer ROM's displaying "1x" when it sees 1x but after being on the stock ROM (with WIFI on), I kind of forgot about it.
And I was never clear what the "New" Spark Icons were really saying anyway (with WIFI ON or OFF).
So the truth is this thing has been running like crap since day 1. And I believe even worse since the first OTA firmware update.
I started researching options to get the Galaxy S5. Turns out the reviews are worse on the S5 than the M8.
Then I kept finding threads like this one.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/155517
Maybe I have a bad phone. Maybe I'll just smash the thing and try another one.
I miss my M7. Luckily my wife has it.
I had to get my first M8 replaced because it was roaming all the time. My second one is much better . Sounds like you have a bad one like my first one. I returned mine within the first 14 days to get a no-questions-asked replacement for full refund.
Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help. Then again u should be aware of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701255 just in case u r not.
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I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help
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Not so easy to shut Roaming Guard off. I'll bet if most people look right now, You'd find it greyed out.
I just completely wiped my phone again. Ran RUU on it. Immediately Disabled the Guard. And a half hour later it's all locked out again (but it's locked out disabled).
I don't know what causes it to lock.
But you do have to do it immediately after a wipe.
I'll check out the Options #*# option you suggested. Thanks. I remember that being mentioned before.
Aldeel said:
Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I tend to root as soon as it's available. In case an OTA comes out and lose the ability to ever do it. I also like to see if I can root it with in the 14 days, because if something does go wrong I can swap it. I can make it factory looking again. I just didn't want to bother in case they could fix it, because it felt like just a programming issue. I knew I was taking a chance when I brought it in like that. I've brought in MUCH more hacked phones and walked out with a brand new one, with no T.E.P.
I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone. It definitely won't pull in weak 3G like my M7 did.
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I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone.
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It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.
As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.
I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.
There is problem in this phone. I don't think why you face this type of problem?
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As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.
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Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.
Captain_Throwback said:
It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.
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Me neither.
Should definitely look into getting it replaced, though.
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I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.
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My M8's serial number starts with FA and so far, the only real issues I've had are sending/receiving texts at home. Sometimes, they come in delayed but I attribute that to the network moreso than the phone. Though, updating the profile/prl seems to fix it. Forcing the phone to re-provision while on CDMA rather than LTE seems to also keep it from happening sooner.
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Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.
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Yeah lucky for me I dont work at a corporate store lol. They did a mass layoff of techs in corporate stores.
No problems here either
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I'm curious now if my phone is bad or its network related. I seem to drop/miss calls quite often. I just checked my serial number and it starts with FA as well.
I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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Maybe not different locations, but definitely different batches. Some could have subpar antennas.
I believe the serial number indicates the distribution center from which the device was produced. I saw mention of it in the Firewater thread when people were trying to figure out why it worked on some devices and not on others.
Serial number for my phone started with FA. Ordered it after watching the unveiling, got it two days later.
Haven't had a single problem with the phone as far as software, and no hardware issues like defects.
Guess I'm just lucky.
Knock in wood taking the firmware update on H/K ROM doesn't change things down the line.
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I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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I have a gold one as well and also see none of these issues. It also seems to be comparable to my S3's reception.

[OPINIONS] Help deciding getting this device?

Hello all! My name is Terence, and I've been dealing with Android devices and rooting for years now, so the first things I always look at when I'm searching for new devices are the Dev community, and the AOSP scene. Right the the device I have is the LG G2, and while its an amazing device, flashing ROMs (or hell, just owning the device in general) is a lot like playing Russian Roulette with the display. What I mean by that is, there is a known problem with this phone where permanent black lines would appear on the right side of the device, with no real explanation so far. At first, people thought it was because of flashing certain ROMs, or the phone overheating. Then people started vetted screen damage being just on stock. And I am one of those people with screen damage. So I started thinking, I can either get this fixed for $130, or search for a new device. I've found a good condition HTC One M7 for $150. My question(s) to you is, should I do it? Is it worth it just to buy this particular device? Are there any crazy issues such as my screen damage that pops up? I know the One isn't quite as good as the LG G2 on paper, but I'm not really a power user like that. I just love me some AOSP ROMs, and there's work being done on Lollipop, which is also a huge plus. Thanks for your time and answers!
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I've found a good condition HTC One M7 for $150. My question(s) to you is, should I do it? Is it worth it just to buy this particular device?
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If you're sure its in good condition, yes!
Are there any crazy issues such as my screen damage that pops up?
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The infamous camera pink/purple issue
alray said:
If you're sure its in good condition, yes!
The infamous camera pink/purple issue
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Camera issue? Oh, do tell. Stock, or AOSP ROMs?
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Camera issue? Oh, do tell. Stock, or AOSP ROMs?
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hardware issue so it could happen on both stock rom or custom roms. If you have this issue, htc will replace the camera under warranty.
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hardware issue so it could happen on both stock rom or custom roms. If you have this issue, htc will replace the camera under warranty.
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Do you know if it's a day one problem, or something that just happens randomly over time?
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Do you know if it's a day one problem, or something that just happens randomly over time?
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Day one Problem for sure
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its something that happens over time and get worse. Mine just started to have this issue after 1 year
Very interesting. Whatever the case may be, I'm sure its better than the screen going completely AWOL on random just because it feels like it one day -_- I think I'm going to go for it, though. Yes, it has lower specs than my G2, but there's something oddly attractive about the One that's drawing me to it. And it has a good development scene, and you guys all seem civilized, compared to the G2 forums.... -______-
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Very interesting. Whatever the case may be, I'm sure its better than the screen going completely AWOL on random just because it feels like it one day -_- I think I'm going to go for it, though. Yes, it has lower specs than my G2, but there's something oddly attractive about the One that's drawing me to it. And it has a good development scene, and you guys all seem civilized, compared to the G2 forums.... -______-
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The camera issue is only there when taking picture in low light conditions. It still take good picture in normal lighting condition. Personally, I don't really care because I always use my dslr cam. Still a great phone, I would still buy it today.
Yeah, I'm not really big on the camera. For what its worth, the pictures I've taken so far on the G2 have been ****. Probably because I'm on AOSP and AOSP cameras are usually always **** compared to stock. My Optimus G takes much better pictures.
I've been doing some reading, and it seems like the Sprint version of the M7 is a little shafted on development compared to the rest of the variants No GPE ROM I can convert to, I see, which is something I was really excited for
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I've been doing some reading, and it seems like the Sprint version of the M7 is a little shafted on development compared to the rest of the variants No GPE ROM I can convert to, I see, which is something I was really excited for
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Yeah I would steer clear of Sprint and Verizon variants if your looking for plenty of choice from a development point of view.
You'll definitely want an International, Dev Edition or GPE HTC One any M7_ul basically.
But yeah I would totally recommend the M7. I love mine. The purple camera can be a problem. I had mine repaired under warranty because it did get quite bad. I was only without my phone for 5 working days and it's been fine since and the repair quality was amazing, I honestly couldn't tell the phone had been opened up. And I scrutinized it before sending it in.
Apart from that it's been a fantastic device, easily the best I've ever owned. It looks great and is very comfortable to use. Always snappy and responsive and dose everything I ask of it.
I was a little bummed when the M8 came out because I still had 12 months left on my contract with the M7. But my friend has an M8 and to be honest I don't feel like I'm missing out on a whole lot. Apart from the obvious hardware improvements it doesn't really feel a whole lot better than my M7
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Yeah I would steer clear of Sprint and Verizon variants if your looking for plenty of choice from a development point of view.
You'll definitely want an International, Dev Edition or GPE HTC One any M7_ul basically.
But yeah I would totally recommend the M7. I love mine. The purple camera can be a problem. I had mine repaired under warranty because it did get quite bad. I was only without my phone for 5 working days and it's been fine since and the repair quality was amazing, I honestly couldn't tell the phone had been opened up. And I scrutinized it before sending it in.
Apart from that it's been a fantastic device, easily the best I've ever owned. It looks great and is very comfortable to use. Always snappy and responsive and dose everything I ask of it.
I was a little bummed when the M8 came out because I still had 12 months left on my contract with the M7. But my friend has an M8 and to be honest I don't feel like I'm missing out on a whole lot. Apart from the obvious hardware improvements it doesn't really feel a whole lot better than my M7
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Well damn. I'm on Sprint, so I kinda don't have a choice in that department >_<
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Well damn. I'm on Sprint, so I kinda don't have a choice in that department >_<
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Well it could be worse, at least it's not Verizon They don't even allow bootloader unlocking with HTC dev.
But you should be sure to flash only Sprint compatible software roms and recoveries for other Variants will soft brick it. The Sprint has a different partition layout. But you should find everything you need here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-one

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