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Well, today in chemistry my friend took out his iphone and I started using it. The scrolling on that phone is amazing. Everything was incredibly smooth like the home screen, browser, and music lists.
I'm curious as to why the G1 is very jerky when scrolling stuff. Is it because the G1 doesn't have a GPU or something like that? If it is possible for the hardware, will there be an update that makes it smooth?
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Well, today in chemistry my friend took out his iphone and I started using it. The scrolling on that phone is amazing. Everything was incredibly smooth like the home screen, browser, and music lists.
I'm curious as to why the G1 is very jerky when scrolling stuff. Is it because the G1 doesn't have a GPU or something like that? If it is possible for the hardware, will there be an update that makes it smooth?
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It also depends on the rom but since you asked here are G1 specs & Iphone
My G1 is super smooth and rooted w/ king's espresso
Iphone:
OS=iPhone OS (based on Mac OS)
CPU/Gpu=ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
Ram=256MB Ram
Legacy:
OS=Andro of course
Ram=192MB (Andro takes up 150~ i think)
CPU=MSM 7201A @528 MAX but unrooted are @384/
GPU=HW accelerated w/ 3D Oh and uses the 2nd core of the CPU
But you gotta remem that iphones cant Multi-task and has only 1 app open at a time, i have a Ipod touch and its fast, i used the 3GS and thats fast too. But i can never leave android b/c of what it can do.You might also want to know that a better gpu doesnt translate to faster scrolling either.
I have the newest cyanogen mod, and I'm not saying the iPhone is faster than the G1, I'm saying that it is smoother.
For example(not real numbers):
The g1's ui runs at 15 fps and the iphone's runs at 45 fps.
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I have the newest cyanogen mod, and I'm not saying the iPhone is faster than the G1, I'm saying that it is smoother.
For example(not real numbers):
The g1's ui runs at 15 fps and the iphone's runs at 45 fps.
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You should try Super D its faster than cyan's rom, but its based off of cyan&dwang. You could always try enom's rom too, he has a bunch of extras that can be accessed from terminal.
k ill try some later
For Sure try Super D rom. its by far the fastest and smoothest rom in my opinion.
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For Sure try Super D rom. its by far the fastest and smoothest rom in my opinion.
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I flashed the beta last night and that thing is smooth. Then again coming from a hero rom, stock is smooth
Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
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I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).
Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
What do the rest of you think?
I thought it was my imagination but when I was cleaning up my phone with jm9 before a flash to jv1 I was amazed with speed and smoothness on jm9. Js8 does feel a little slow but all the new minor tweeks here and there add up to a total better experience (Flash player). Jv1 improved will be off the hook I reckon. Almost kept it even with all the bugs as its so smooth and fast.
Lets hope someone's mate is right soon...
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I'm not sure what firmware I was on, but i moved from 2.1 to 2.2 (JP5 - Australian) and I found it to be much slower overall. Just flashed to JS8 2.2.1 and it's much better.
I think, in terms of interface smoothness 2.1 is better, but filesystem lag is lower (but far from ideal, though) on 2.2.1. And 2.2 is the worst of them all.
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Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
What do the rest of you think?
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Touch responsiveness?
I think that the responsiveness of the screens doesn´t have anything to do with the FW version.
At first use. After one day the performance in equal to froyo in that aspect. At first use eclairwas awesome but after installing 20 apps....
Instead some people with the latest JS8 or even JS3 don't even think of using any lagfix even with more than 100 apps.
I admit that the shutdown animation from JM9 is far more smooth.
Finnaly don't forget that JM9 was the latest eclair ROM. And Sammy is still updating Froyo.
Froyo faster than Eclair then 2.21 faster still and JS8 seems faster .
jje
froyo 2.2 was a terrible upgrade from speed point of view..... try in application list to pinch out(to get a full view of the tabs) and scroll between tabs! it just lags as hell.. 2.2.1 i way better...but yes jm9 lagfixed was lovely!!
I can confirm if u were talking about smoothiness a lagfixed eclair is alot better than froyo even its 2.2.1, you can see the major difference if you are using launcherpro..and eclair did perform alot better than froyo in terms of battery life..but of course froyo's browser performance is promising due to the flash player and its compatibility for latest apps and games..I came form JM9 and using JS8 now..performance aint convincing me to continue to use froyo lol..was thinking to revert back to eclair..but actually what bothers me the most is the battery life.froyo drains the battery even its in idle..i will stick with JS8 for the night..if the battery still drops like 4-5% for 8hours..Im going back to JM9 =)
About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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are you talking about FuguTweaks or Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity?
I guess Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity.
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About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
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Browser perfomance is due to flash.
I really don't notice ant diff in touch response. Maybe it's just me.
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
If that was true no devs would build Froyo roms .
jje
because there is no point developing an old firmware when it is about to be getting eliminated soon lol.
its something like will you still go n buy an Iphone2G when Iphone5 is releasing soon? same
yes froyo is slower than eclair and all of them slower than dark's
according to me jm8 and jm9 is the best!
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
Simple answer? Yes
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My guess would be LG fail at software, I suspect it will be totally different with CM.
I have a Desire and can confirm that.
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Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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What exactly is faster? Sense vs. LG Home?
Internet browsing?
Games?
Sense on the desire series is lightning fast and smooth, HTC has been working a long time to tune it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but i read some parts of android are more optimized for the qualcomm processors (vs. any other cpu).
LG made some adjustments in the caching of apps to speed up boot times (and making the rest of the experience slower) , but paul's rom 'fixed' this.
I did a side by side comparison between the desire HD and the o2x and for now the dhd feels a lot more mature; untill you start up a game and I hope newer roms (actually read cyanogenmod here; in time don't think the first few nightlies will be much difference) can make this device as fast as it should be.
Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Wait for the gingerbread update which should come within the next month - and lets hope LG made a better job building that rom
I consider the current froyo rom as only temporary - which is also why I still havent bothered with custom roms
Basically the roms now are all based on the poor rom from LG, and new roms needs to be made when the gingerbread update comes anyhow.
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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Well then you have a problem on your O2X...
We had 2 * HTC Desires S (still one kept for the wife) and those are a lot slower lol in everything We compared both with the two O2X.
When I have to do something for my wife on the old HTC Desire S well it scares now the heck out of me lol that slow
Amazing one year back I found it fast
I have 2 HTC Desire also - and they arent faster than the O2x by any means - but the rom is smoother. It doesnt have the slowdowns and lags you experience with the O2x, for instanse when installing apps in the market application. But open the gallery or the video list and you will see how much faster the O2x is, or play a game etc.
The O2x definetely are alot faster than the Desire, but the rom just needs optimisation in a few areas
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Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
I came from HTC Desire too, and initially when I got the O2X, it was definitely not as smooth or fast as the Desire - especially when I ran it with GingerBread on the LauncherPro UI. Then I rooted the O2X and flashed MCR which improved things, but still felt laggy. Lately I have been using other custom ROMs (all based on MCR Fr12) and the latest versions are really very smooth and fast. Better than Desire?Not sure anymore; but I am definitely much happier with my O2X now with custom ROMs. I am now waiting for CM7 to come to O2X; that would really make the O2X show its true colors!
HTC desire is way slower than LG 2X by hardware
It is just that the newest HTC Sense for Desire is so much better than the LG stock roms.
So far all of the custom roms are based on the original LG rom, and even with the fix and optimization, it isn't getting us anywhere so far.
Im having this issue as well..
My incredible s is way faster for internet browsing...
Opening an app is fast on incredible s...
The screen display,games and videos that made me keep this 2x...
Still i wait for the next update and decide...
fantastic phone for sure..
gk141054 said:
Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
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Simple - theres only 2 places where the Desire are "faster" or smoother if you please. On the standard launcher swyping between the homescreens and when multitasking during app installation. These two issues tend to make people "beleive" the Desire is faster - its not, even if the launcher seems smoother when swyping.
The swyping is only an issue of the standard LG launcher - installing any other thirdparty launcher and swyping will be just as smooth/fast or even faster if you configure it to be under settings, than the Desire launcher.
The Multitasking lag during app installation is a bug on the LG, still not fixed - so this is still an issue. But its one single litle bug - this is hardly an issue to call the Desire faster overall and its not like you are constantly installing apps causing the phone to lag. Its a few seconds then you can move back to normal operation again.
But in any other operation of the phone the LG are much faster than the Desire, basically because the hardware is faster. Open a webpage and it loads faster, open the marked and the application listing loads alot faster, open the gallery and the thumbnails are updated much faster, swype between pictures are much smoother, open the video list and the thumbnails loads instantly, play a video is much smoother and allow much higher quality video, open any application and it loads faster, play any game and it plays smoother with better graphics (some of these games wont even be playable at all on the Desire), open any application that loads any type of content, like "pulse" and the content is loaded faster, Youtube loads and operates alot faster, videotrailer software etc. etc. etc.
In short the software on the LG are still a litle immature - propably because it was rushed by LG to be first on market with a dual core mobile. The HTC Desire's sense UI has been developed on for almost 2 years by HTC (before Desire on Legend for instance), so this is and feels less immature - it doesnt mean the Desire is faster.
My gf's Desire isn't as fast as my O2x, even with CM7 on it.
The hardware of the o2x is definitely faster, so it can only be the stock rom which subjective makes the mobile slower.
Keep in mind that LG focused to be the first company publishing a dual core mobile, mainly for PR.
The ROM probably played a minor role for the marketing guys ...
Hopefully they make it better with ginger bread. Otherwise, there's CM7 which will work for sure a lot better and smoother than the current stock-ROM
greets
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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Wow , thats what I call a big e-peen
My mate has a desire HD and had to do some surfing to get him to a webpage and I can tell you that it is sOOOOOooooooo much slower than my O2X (with stock rom,rooted with pauls patches.tweaks). It took a LOT longer to render webpages, Especially if they had flash on them than my O2X.
unfnknblvbl said:
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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thing is, what do you use/want more: a snappy UI or more horse power in benchmarks? I might sounds like an apple fanboy now but I use the UI 99% more then a benchmark so for me the UI is more important. I'm back to my cm7 powered powerhouse that i call the desire HD for now; the lag in the UI is mostly part of that choice. Although I do agree that high demanding tasks like a 3D game are a lot smoother on an o2x
Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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Best overall experience performance/game/battery-wise is Eclair (2.1) for sure. If you don't mind loosing some features on GMAPS and not getting the latest GMAIL client. But you need a good sd-card and sd-ext or just not use much apps on the phone, as eclair doesn't support app2sd natively. Ah, good old time where I could play Angry Birds, pause it, open You Tube, watch a video, go back to Angry Birds which was still loaded in memory, no need to reload everything and start again....
I've heard bout that. Honestly I would go back to eclair if it wasn't for the lack of flash and apps2sd. I really don't understand what makes gb so slow
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i think the best blance between features and snappynes is 2.2 . it has a lot of additional features and it runs good. i personally love 2.3 because of the look (im a big fan of the screen-off animation) but its too slow.
Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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JIT takes up a lot of RAM that Milestone doesn't have =)
best performance is still Eclair... Official Froyo is laggy...
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Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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From what I have heard, Eclair has a 30FPS cap, so my favorite would be Froyo. I disable JIT on all ROMs as I don't notice much of a difference.
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But surely 30fps is still rather smooth
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Hi guys !
I'm a new owner of Motorola Milestone and mine came with stock 2.2.1 Froyo installed.
The thing is that despite having Froyo the interface looks just like 2.0. Main screen contains old grey tab that slides up the screen to reveal apps, camera interface is old too and there is no tethering.
I've already checked motorola update software to see if there's anything new, but apparently not and right now I don't have time to root the phone to install custom ROM (2.2 or 2.3). Is there anything I can do to get the new interface working?
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
Isn't the Cronos Ginger a custom ROM that needs rooted phone ?
Sorry for such a question, but I'm new to the subject.
pcphobic said:
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
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This is not official version (from PopCap). Official needs about 180mb ram free to run.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFqYRzC2fc and see difference.
Modern Combat 2 is working fine with 80-90mb ram free.
But still, has anyone met with such issue when stock froyo has an old interface a'la 2.0 ?
Get ADW launcher from the market. It is the lightest launcher for motorola milstoen
guys ive noticed something.
Of all the roms i think cronos runs the FASTEST. but the launchers seem to lag quite a lot. On miui (laggiest milestone rom) adw is fine(ish). But on cronos it lags
EDIT: Hmmm just checked my phone again. The lag is getting better. Spooky
Android 2.2 keeps alot apps in memory and I task killers like Adao doesn't works as good as it works on 2.1. I miss 2.1 but I'm loving the new apps on 2.2 but the memory management system is poor.
lol that video of PvZ is pathetic. My iPod Touch 4G runs that smoking smooth on its 256mb ram + 800mhz processor and retina display.
The milestone simply cannot do it.
With that said, a 512mb device can do it MUCH better. Even my Nexus S struggles since it only boots with 100mb free. A lot of crap gets killed.
I don't get why Android apps need SO MUCH RAM.
So which version actually uses the smallest amount of RAM?
Right now I'm on 2.2.1 and most of the time I have about 40MB free.
Well, it's not really about how much RAM is free, it's more like how much RAM can be freed in case you need it. So, be it Eclair or Froyo, you get around 30-40 megs free, but Eclair can free 120MB easy, without killing essential apps, while Froyo can do 85-90 with JIT and 100-105 without JIT. Unfortunatelly it is exactly those 15-20MB of RAM that we need to keep out home screen alive, or read and SMS without killing Angry Birds.
And how about Gingerbread? I'm currently waiting for new 'RTM' version of CyanogenMod 7.1 from Nadlabak and I think I'll give it a try.