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quick question about the 1.6 update

okay im sure you guys saw that 1.6 is being pushed to all tmobile g1s in the next few days (i saw it on engadget.com) my question is im rooted with cyan 4.0.4 i think. (the latest stable) and i think i want to update to that so i can have the new market. will i be able to get the update and will i be able to still use overclock widget. thanks guys!!!

umm there are already 1.6 based roms in the dev section... i would look there, i am about to give akirah's build a go.
if you flash an official update to your phone then you will lose root.

If you flash any official ROM and try to run an app that requires root it won't work as intended (the app).
How's the ROM you mention david? I was considering it myself, I've been using this current ROM for almost a day now. Need a change

trexxcrap2 said:
okay im sure you guys saw that 1.6 is being pushed to all tmobile g1s in the next few days (i saw it on engadget.com) my question is im rooted with cyan 4.0.4 i think. (the latest stable) and i think i want to update to that so i can have the new market. will i be able to get the update and will i be able to still use overclock widget. thanks guys!!!
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well rooted phones will not be getting the official OTA update. and plus theres a couple 1.6 roms. like david said, theres akirahs but i never tried it.

Dyonas said:
If you flash any official ROM and try to run an app that requires root it won't work as intended (the app).
How's the ROM you mention david? I was considering it myself, I've been using this current ROM for almost a day now. Need a change
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i know im not dave so you might not trust my opinion as much it was kind of like jf build nothing special jus a simple rooted adp with apps to sd built in i really did notice anything that wasn't in 4.11.1.

Can any one tell me that once i root will i be able to install new update of google through PC ?

sabin123 said:
Can any one tell me that once i root will i be able to install new update of google through PC ?
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u can load up any rom u want with root.

jmon777 said:
i know im not dave so you might not trust my opinion as much it was kind of like jf build nothing special jus a simple rooted adp with apps to sd built in i really did notice anything that wasn't in 4.11.1.
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i found it to be really fast (like damn fast) but i love a lot of the features in 4.1.11.1 like the lockscreen among other things. i think it is between a jf rom and a cm rom. not completely vanilla but not rocky road either its a good rom overall, but i love my features.

i still have my .zip file for cyans 4.1.11.1 if anyone needs it!..i like it..

mrnv45 said:
i still have my .zip file for cyans 4.1.11.1 if anyone needs it!..i like it..
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Is that the 1.6 mod that Cyanogen created? If so I would like it if you can send to my email [email protected]
I tried to find it when I saw it on friend's phone, but when I went to the site they removed :\
ny friend got lucky and bought the phone from a person that had it on there.

HAHAHA Cyanogen ROMs are like crack now.
whatcha need, whatcha need?
Hey man, you got some cyanogen?
You ain't a cop are ya?
Nah man, I just need some Cyanogen.
ok cool, here ya go, be careful bro that sh*t's fast.

* looks over both shoulders.
* whispers "dude that phone had cyanogen on it when you bought it?!?! That sh*t's illegal bro!"

OTA Disabled when using Cyanogen????

Hello all...
I just read about Android 2.2 Froyo that is scheduled to come out sometime within the next few months. What I am wondering is will I get the OTA update pushed to my phone from Google and will I be able to update?
I am running CyanogenMod 5.0.6-N1 on my Nexus One.
I apologize if this seems like a dumb question but I am a newbie to all this.

OTA will be gone after rooting, but the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery.
It might even leak to root users sooner as was done in the past
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Hey KnightMAREcrow...
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't understand what you mean by the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery. Huh?
Again sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm learning all this as I go.

afigs15 said:
Hey KnightMAREcrow...
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't understand what you mean by the update will still be available for root users to be applied through recovery. Huh?
Again sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm learning all this as I go.
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If you have rooted your phone (which you have to install cyan), you will need to put back stock recovery and stock rom in order to successfully install the OTA. What Knight said was that, usually updates such as Froyo/2.2 will be out for rooted users like you through Cyan or other Roms, so you do not have to install stock rom/rec. Just wait it Out!

Ohhhhh ok so the next Cyanogen Update should incorporate all the features that will come with Froyo....GOT IT!!!!
Thanks for the lesson...much appreciated!

Even though you aren't getting a notification about the OTA - rooted users will still be able to download a .zip and flash it through recovery just like a custom ROM. This version specifically though will not be the one Google released, I believe they will change things to in order to make it usable by us rooted users.
I don't know really though, but it looks like that is what happened with the previous OTA. Cyanogen will integrate Froyo's features into his ROM regardless, so I guess it really doesn't matter.

Want to root, have some questions

Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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hackm0d said:
Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc

I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?

[Q] CM6 and Apps2SD - could someone explain?

Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman

Becksman said:
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
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Apps2SD will be there in 6.1......That's been communicated.....
Right now Firerat has build an script which does the JOB, I have a dream and using apps2sd with CM6....
Search the thread or XDA and you will get all the info....

FroYo, that CM6 is based on, has it's own implementation, often referred to as Apps2FAT. Cyanogen, and others, have stated that something resembling the CM4/5 Apps2Ext will be in the next release of CM.

Thanks for the replys so far. I was aware that an implementation of Apps2SD in CM6.1 is planned. I know as well that there is a workaround with firerat's patch.
I just tried to understand what's different with CM6 in comparison to CM5. I thought: hey, maybe with CM6 there's a good reason why apps2SD is not supported anymore. Maybe there's an alternative to apps2SD which works more reliable (not that it didn't with apps2SD on CM5). If so, I would have been willing to reinstall my apps and use the new system.
If there's no reason not to use apps2SD in CM6 then I'll consider updating. Either now, applying firerat's patch, or in some time when CM6.1 is out...
Best regards,
Becksman

it is Apps2SD, but it is saving the data to the FAT32 partition, rather than the EXT partition we are used to. one limitation I've discovered was by installing desktop widgets on the external. when the OS booted up, none of the widgets loaded.

I suspect the reason CM6.0 doesn't have Apps2Ext is threefold.
FroYo has something similar built-in. Therefore, users have a solution to the underlying problem w/out a custom CM solution. (problems w/ that implementation notwithstanding)
A polished solution would have to integrate with the FroYo solution in some way. This takes extra work.
Getting FroYo running solidly was a huge effort of it's own. TeamDouche expanded the number of supported devices by a huge number. They integrated the completely new build system Google released with FroYo. Adding another feature, especially in light of #1 and #2 above, would have delayed the release without real merit.

Thanks for the clarifications.
So I guess I'll stick with Apps2Ext. Though I guess I'll have to wait until CM6.1 is out, as I really don't have the time right now to keep myself busy playing with my phone and try to make everything work.
Thanks again for your effort - what a wonderful forum.
Regards,
Becksman

Does anyone know how I can Upgrade my rooted B&N OS 1.1.0 to 1.2.0 (Froyo)

Hi So I've been searching all around on how to do this but I'm having no luck. I know I know why don't I just turn my nook color into a full gingerbread?
Well here's the thing.... I like the Nook Color OS. What I'm running now is 1.1.0 It allows me access to the market and install market apps while still keeping my nook color OS.
But I could just install Nook Color app from the market.... I could but it doesn't work as well as the OS. I like my nook color for the E-book experience mostly. But I read magazine and not all magazine are availble in PDF.
Recently Zinio now is on Android but only in froyo 2.2 and up. I would like to just upgrade the market so I can take advantage of the market and installing amazon app market
I update once but it didn't work. It changed my screen resolution.
Please help

Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
I prefer the version that puts CWM on internal memory.
Then if you want to manual root, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
And to overclock, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451&highlight=Dalingrin+kernel
Links are fixed, I made the mistake of copying part of an earlier post I had made.

Thanks But the links don't show up

Stock 1.2 and ManualNooter is FroYo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027

mearle said:
Thanks But the links don't show up
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You're right, the links didn't work, but it has the thread numbers, or you could just do a search based on what he said they did.. anyways, here are the links he tried to post, but you have to read them and make sure you follow directions, because if you don't do it right, we aren't going to do the searches for you how to fix it. (Sorry if I sound jaded, but we all have to learn how to do it ourselves)
Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
I prefer the version that puts CWM on internal memory.
Then if you want to manual root, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
And to overclock, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451&highlight=dalgrin+kernel
And in my opinion, I would do a few other things UNLESS you use the nook reader app on a daily basis..
This is a must
Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
I prefer the version that puts CWM on internal memory.
Dual boot the stock rom with a more functional rom(like cm7) if you want more features than 2.1, go for 2.3.4. It is much more of a jump than 2.1 to 2.2(froyo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053780
or if you are willing to archive your stock nook color, copy it to a fully working sd card, and have nook stock on demand
[ADV][DEV][CWM]Copy Nook Stock to SDcard Image[5/9]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061523
Then you can install any rom you want on the main memory, but have a fully functioning bootable sd stock rom(which I did, and now it just sits on my coffee table)
or, if you are feeling really crazy, find the latest honeycomb rom.. but you can find the link yourself.
/rant

Hey thanks I'm really sorry to ask all these noob question. So I tried to upgrade to froyo once and it change the screen resolution. Like you could tell things were slightly bigger is that auto manualnooter?

mearle said:
Hey thanks I'm really sorry to ask all these noob question. So I tried to upgrade to froyo once and it change the screen resolution. Like you could tell things were slightly bigger is that auto manualnooter?
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Maybe, but I doubt it. It MAY have changed the lcd density setting slightly to make the market work better, but it would be barely noticeable. Seriously though, as someone who didn't want to give up the stock rom, get clockwork mod recovery on there, no a nandroid backup, and try cm7 if you want stability and lots of functionality, or miui, or maybe android 3.0.
Personally, the only thing the stock rom does well is read books, but once I found moon reader + I didn't need that anymore, and I can't think of a single other reason to keep the stock around anymore.

Silentbtdeadly said:
Seriously though, as someone who didn't want to give up the stock rom, get clockwork mod recovery on there, no a nandroid backup, and try cm7 if you want stability and lots of functionality, or miui, or maybe android 3.0.
Personally, the only thing the stock rom does well is read books, but once I found moon reader + I didn't need that anymore, and I can't think of a single other reason to keep the stock around anymore.
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^^^^^
This
but don't use honeycomb (android 3.0) It's full of bugs and glitches because google will not release the source code.
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