Hey Guys!
I'm very confused with which phone to pick. Desire has better speaker and it seems not many problems compared to Nexus One however i like the looks of Nexus One a lot better since it reminds me of my old iPhone 1G. I have been using an iPhone from last 3 years almost and want to switch.
Both these phones are available in the grey market and will carry very limited warranty. Desire is cheaper by almost 100$.
So for those who have picked a Nexus One, would you switch to HTC Desire if a choice was given?
Some of the problems with Nexus One that I seem to have found out :
1) Touch Sensitive buttons
2) Loudspeaker is not too loud due to bad placement of speaker and the voice is distorted?
3) Issues with the screen where the phone becomes unresponsive and one needs to restart the phone.
4) Screen burn in of Notification bar.
I personally really like the Google branding at the back
Please help me out with your opinion.
Thx
I went from a iPhone 3GS to a Nexus One and I won't ever look back. Also in my opinion the Nexus One is a whole lot better then the Desire in terms of design and also the fact that Google's updates are released 1st on it and the XDA community is so big on the Nexus that literally everyday you can find something new.
In summary, my advise is go with the Nexus.
Yeah! I was hoping Sense UI would be released soon for it through a rom, good updates are available, lets hope a proper one is released with not that many bugs
Issues number 3 & 4 are the same on both phones. Both phones use the same touchscreen and OLED components.
Issue 1:
There is nothing wrong with the touch sensitive buttons. I've never had any troubles with them, they take a little getting used to as they are different then regular pressure buttons. Plus you get a small haptic feedback vibrate when one is pressed so after a while you never notice that they are any different then regular pressure buttons.
Issue 2:
The loudspeaker is about as loud as an iphone, however it is on the back of the phone and if you are looking at the screen it can sound lower because it is not facing any longer.
Issue 3:
Never happened to me. But tech in general sometimes freeze and restart nothing that would be different from nexus one vs the desire.
Issue 4:
Totally abnormal, this can only happen if you NEVER let your screen go to black when it is not is use. To my knowledge the recent post on this problem is the ONLY time i have ever heard this complaint.
Now as to which one to chose that is harder to explain. The are both fonominal phones, not just because they are android, but because they are mildly the same phone bundled differently. I personally would ALWAYS go with the Google branded phones because google tends to favor them, giving them first rights to new updates like froyo, and flash. I personally don't like the way the desire looks with the physical buttons but thats personal.
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Issues number 3 & 4 are the same on both phones. Both phones use the same touchscreen and OLED components.
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Except the Desire uses a black notification bar by default, so the burn-in would be greatly reduced.
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Except the Desire uses a black notification bar by default, so the burn-in would be greatly reduced.
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unless ofcourse if youre using the desire rom
I chose the nexus one over the htc desire. I owned the desire for about 2 weeks and that i wanted a phone with faster browser speeds cause all i do is browse the web and watch youtube videos. long story short, i sold the desire, then picked up the nexus and rooted it the desire rom. THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS! HTC DESIRE WITH NEXUS 3G SPEEDS.
I just went through all this, to me the desire is the nicer phone, and sense is an improvement on an already good UI. But the prospect of a 2.2 update swayed me to buy the nexus. The touch button issue isnt a big deal, you get used to them and touching the top half.
The nexus tracker ball isnt as ugly as i thought it would be, it much smaller than the one on my magic. If HTC didn't already have a bad history of updating the android version on their sense phones i'd have def gone for the desire.
BTW people always say you can use custom roms, i used loads on my magic and they were always unstable in some way and in the end I went back to standard.
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BTW people always say you can use custom roms, i used loads on my magic and they were always unstable in some way and in the end I went back to standard.
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You are forgetting the the Nexus has a whole lot more support from the community in terms of development which is why I have yet to try a unstable ROM...
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I am not a fan of Sense UI, and love vanilla Android.
With Froyo, I'm sure they have fixed the dodgy screen calibration too, as the capacitive buttons now respond when pressed in the "proper" place, as opposed to half a centimetre higher above the icon, which was the case before.
If you're not bothered by Sense, like the idea of having an FM radio, and are not interested in having the latest release of Android before everyone else, or custom ROMs, then I'd say go for the Desire.
Otherwise, Nexus all the way.
1. Touch sensitive buttons are much better responsive on Froyo but still not perfect.
2. The speakers are fine. Noise cancellation is great. The inbuilt speaker on the back is pretty **** tho'.
3 & 4 as mentioned. Both model will suffer from this.
Want Desire ROM.. Paul got it.
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BTW people always say you can use custom roms, i used loads on my magic and they were always unstable in some way and in the end I went back to standard.
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I've never come across an unstable rom for the Nexus.
From what I hear, people are also bricking their Desires when trying to unlock and root them. The Nexus One has built in support for unlocking, so no brick possibility at all unless you flash the wrong radio or interrupt the radio flash.
And you might only flash a radio every 6 months or so, if that much.
If there's a way to remove sense ui completely then I might consider the desire.
i like the sense ui and plan to run it. Which is the most stable version? Afaik, the recent roms are having issues with long text messages and other things.
The only thing that will make your decision is if you want Sense UI or not. That's something you can't use other peoples opinions about because some people hate it (me) and some people love it. I'd say use Sense UI and use a stock Android ROM and see which one you want. Also look at the pros and cons of each and see what features you want the most.
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I'd say if you like Sense UI get the Desire. That's what its there for. Personally I love stock UI
Nexus One = Froyo, will have to wait months to get it on Desire, and the same will happen when Gingerbread comes and every OS after that so pretty much there is no way I would ever take a Desire over the Nexus One considering they are essentially the same phone. I am considering swapping my Nexus for an EVO though LOL Will be hard to give up Froyo but that 4.3" screen is amazing.
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I'm thinking between the My Touch Slide, and the Nexus. Obviously I love my g1's keyboard.
But, I know the MTS running Sense will never be up to date on current Android OS (though I read they're limiting updates to 2x a year which helps) So I would want to ask if you'd think any hackers would strip it of it's Sense UI and run normal android on it?
And if not the MTS it's a Nexus one and while playing Yongz emu's with multi touch which handle surprisingly really well, I've thinking an all touch phone might do just fine.
Thoughts?
It's happened with just about every other Android device, so I don't see why it wouldn't with the MTS.
However, you may want to consider holding out for more info on the HTC Vision, supposedly a Desire with a keyboard.
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However, you may want to consider holding out for more info on the HTC Vision, supposedly a Desire with a keyboard.
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And a "Desire" is basically a GN1 with an optical trackdot.... so expect the Vision to be the best of both.
One thing to realize though, is that even the GN1 is still an HTC PHONE, and is still going to be subject to the same support/upgrade life as every other HTC PHONE.
Android is such a pain in the ass
Hm, I guess it doesn't matter all too much. I just read the My Touch Slide is scoring high GPU benchmarks then any other Android out there (though probably because it has less pixels to push around so it's easier, but still)
I guess it will be an ok buy, hope so!
Ok i already look onto many many post on this and i still have some question left to decide either im gonna buy the nexus s for 300 or the Incredible s for 300.
1) Comparing the Screen S-LCD (IS) to Super Amoled (NS) which one do you prefer? and is the multitouch better in one or another? I am hesitant on the pentile structure of the S-AMOLED....
2) Battery life which one is better? base on current custom roms/kernel for IS and NS
3) Audio quality from the headphone jack?
4) State any problems with either one.
5) Call quality?
I had a nexus one in the past i loved it but i , for fun, overpriced the phone on a selling site and someone actually wanted to buy it. I couldn't pass up the offer.
oh and will the IS ever have a strong community behind it?
Marginal difference between s lcd and s amoled...... Believe me u won't know unless u actually hold them side by side
Then both have gingerbread now,
HTC IS had a premium build whereas Samsung is plastic, then depends whether u like HTC sense or stock, and also HTC IS has more RAM both are equally fast ,
No root for IS atm , again a personal choice I don't prefer to root my device and void my warranty, HTC has better camera and better sound no comment about headphones though u can always buy a Sony or skull candy earphones for that matter
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Both have a strong backing behind them but nexus being a Google phone it will have more development going on
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Marginal difference between s lcd and s amoled...... Believe me u won't know unless u actually hold them side by side
HTC has better camera and better sound no comment about headphones though u can always buy a Sony or skull candy earphones for that matter
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Thank you very much, but i am more interested in the audio jack, as in the quality output of the device. For example my nexus one audio jack would always have a hissing sound similar to my ipodtouch 1gen. Someone mentioned this is due to the hardware. The update fixes it i think by turning the audio jack off whenever it doesn't play anything or switch between songs, i may be wrong but that what i notice when i pause my music it would hiss for 0.5-1 second and then shuts off. Does the IS have this problem?
Oh and hows the battery life of your IS?
The Nexus S has a 1500 mAh battery and the IS has a 1450 mAh. Also, the super amoled consumes quite less battery than the SLCD. So statistically, the Nexus should have better battery life.
If you don't want to ROOT your phone, the IS (with HTC Sense) is definitely the way to go. If you really want updates and/or ROOT, then you shud get NEXUS S (it's a google phone so it'll get a lot more and fast updates than the IS - sad, but true)
having your android buttons (home back menu search) rotate to match the orientation of the phone is reason enough to choose the IS.
it also feels great, its kinda rubbery, so you wont see fingerprints on it and the back has a very interesting shape which i love too.
i was stuck between the same 2 phones before i chose, but ultimately i went for the IS and i dont regret it.
hopefully we will have root for IS very soon.
its the little things
Rykoshi said:
Thank you very much, but i am more interested in the audio jack, as in the quality output of the device. For example my nexus one audio jack would always have a hissing sound similar to my ipodtouch 1gen. Someone mentioned this is due to the hardware. The update fixes it i think by turning the audio jack off whenever it doesn't play anything or switch between songs, i may be wrong but that what i notice when i pause my music it would hiss for 0.5-1 second and then shuts off. Does the IS have this problem?
Oh and hows the battery life of your IS?
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The hiss is probably due to androids internal media service still running.
I have experienced it on all my android devices. (hero, sgs and is)
I think it has to shut off completely first, before it shuts the power to the speaker/jack off.
When power is still being fed, you will always have some noise from the device's internals.
Battery life is OK for me, but this varies per user ofcourse.
I do try to charge wherever possible, I always have my usb cable with me.
Cheers
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having your android buttons (home back menu search) rotate to match the orientation of the phone is reason enough to choose the IS.
it also feels great, its kinda rubbery, so you wont see fingerprints on it and the back has a very interesting shape which i love too.
i was stuck between the same 2 phones before i chose, but ultimately i went for the IS and i dont regret it.
hopefully we will have root for IS very soon.
its the little things
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What internal storage it shipped with ?? in specs they said its 1.1 GB ??
Ya its 1.1 gig buy dude the quality of incredible s is way better than plastic Samsung..... Seriously trust me....HTC quality is impeccable..... Flawless....buy it u won't regret it... I love the HTC sense a lot.... It's very useful and cool too....
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got the Incredible S
So yea i ended up buying the incredible s over the nexus s, i am in love with this phone! the incredible s build quality is awesome only problem is the back cover squeak but not that big of a problem since i use a case and it disappears completely. I thought i needed root for custom rom and stuff because the only reason i root my phone is for a better battery life and less bugs. However, trust me this phone last much longer than my previous nexus one. Not sure how it compare to the nexus s but it is enough for me since im rarely away from a computer for more than 10 hours lol.... First day i got it, probably 36 min of modern combat 2, 1 1/2 hours of scrubs(video), surfing the internet for 3 hours , phone 15 min, other little stuff and the rest of the time was on idle. A total of 9 hour and still 56% left.
My friend has a nexus s and comparing it to mine, mines sexier on the outisde, but once this phone is software s-off or xtc clip, we'll be almost even on the inside. The call quality on the nexus s is worse than my IS, even my friend admits it. The audio jack however is better output on the nexus s.
I do miss the customization, different kernels and roms but it not worth choosing the nexus s over just for it that in my opinion. Even in the long run we might miss out or be the one of the last to get on the update but im guessing the future software will start being opt for dual-core phone like the ios4 performance on iphone 4 vs iphone 3g.
Thank you everyone for helping me choose
Good choice mate..... Have fun....
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Talking of sound quality htc is far below samsung
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Even me and my friend were in a dilemma which one to go for. Nexus s or IS...
I decided for RED IS available around here and my friends sayin Nexus S is better...
Any way or the other, I jus LOOOOOOVE HTC SENSE!!!!
SENSE FTW!!!
For those of you who have purchased the Vivid, any regrets? Why?
None so far for me. I switched from an Inspire and it is a nice improvement in all areas except for development, for now at least.
The screen and improved camera were enough to make it an easy decision for me to switch.
I exchanged from the SGS2 to the Vivid. Wasn't sure which LTE device I wanted. I went with the qHD display because I liked it more so than the SA+. The one thing I regret at the moment is the lack of development so far. The Skyrocket being so close to T-Mobile's version is off to a great start in that department. I had an Atrix before, so I'm used to waiting anyway. With other carriers releasing HTC devices with 1.5ghz makes me feel like there will be a new HTC LTE device being rolled out shortly.
none yet.
I broke the screen on my Dell Streak back in March.
Heard about the HTC Holiday 2 days later.
Waited months for it to come to the US... all the while using a phone with a broken screen.
Became upgrade eligible in August...
I finally gave up waiting and bought the SGSII...
12 hours later (no, i'm not joking.) AT&T announced the Vivid(Holiday)...
I kept the SGSII for a week, seeing if it's annoying over-saturation and ultra light weight would grow on me...
Bought the Vivid on Launch Day.
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With other carriers releasing HTC devices with 1.5ghz makes me feel like there will be a new HTC LTE device being rolled out shortly.
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I wouldn't worry about it...
It appears our phone has the 1.5 in it as well, just underclocked to save battery life.
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Skyrocket
PROCESSOR
Manufacturer: Qualcomm
Model: APQ 8060
Clock speed: 1.5 GHz
Number of cores: 2
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Manufacturer: Qualcomm
Model: APQ 8060
Clock speed: 1.2 GHz
Number of cores: 2
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HTC has done that before, underclock to save battery.
Nothing so far, everything work as expected, Wifi, GPS, call quality is great. I like the weight on the thing, don't really like litght phones, it's just me.
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i switched from the iphone 4 and im kinda wanting to go back to it, but i think its just that im not use to android and im gonna give it time. the phone though i like a lot, its the browser and mail apps that bug me.
I wholeheartedly regret my decision, for now anyways....see the data connection problems thread.
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This year I've had iPhone 4, inspire, galaxy SII and now the vivid.Every phone has its issues just be patient when they get a perm root and devs get on it , its going to be amazing.
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None, somehow the Vivid feels more complete for me as a phone, maybe i am one of those few who love sense. i dont really care much of development, to me the phone works
Switch from crappy since launch day,love the sense. Always wanted a HTC,and it's as good as expected.
As for development,it's only out for a week. HTC is known to be the fastest mgf to release update,no worry. Not to mention HTC already already announce we will have ICS January.
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Yeah I have to say I love this phone! Came from an atrixand wow, what an improvement. I know we get lower benchmarks but honestly its way better IMO, fast UI and smoother... Can't wait for Roms oh baby
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A benchmark to make ppl happy
Also battery life
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The phone's great for me so far. The only regret I have is the audio quality recorded from the camcorder, it's bad... I thought I'd be able to make it sound better by turning stereo recording off like I did on my Sensation, but unfortunately I was wrong. Hopefully this will be fixed in the future by HTC or developers. :l
So far I love the phone. My only complaint is the less than stellar battery life, but everything else is good, and my battery life seems to be getting better now that it's gone through a few charge cycles & I'm starting to return to using it as a normal phone and not a new gadget! I don't seem to have any of the connectivity problem others complain about, but I'm pretty sure at this point that's a network thing, because the Skyrocket experiences the same issues sometimes. The screen is nice and bright as far as I'm concerned (dare I say it's rather vivid?), and I like the qHD resolution. I think the speaker's plenty loud enough & call quality's pretty good. And overall I'm just a fan of HTC's Sense over Samsung's TouchWiz. Now if only we could manage to unlock the bootloader!
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So far I love the phone. My only complaint is the less than stellar battery life, but everything else is good, and my battery life seems to be getting better now that it's gone through a few charge cycles & I'm starting to return to using it as a normal phone and not a new gadget! I don't seem to have any of the connectivity problem others complain about, but I'm pretty sure at this point that's a network thing, because the Skyrocket experiences the same issues sometimes. The screen is nice and bright as far as I'm concerned (dare I say it's rather vivid?), and I like the qHD resolution. I think the speaker's plenty loud enough & call quality's pretty good. And overall I'm just a fan of HTC's Sense over Samsung's TouchWiz. Now if only we could manage to unlock the bootloader!
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Yep... what he said! Word for word, that's exactly how I feel about the phone too. Thanks for typing that up for me
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Yep... what he said! Word for word, that's exactly how I feel about the phone too. Thanks for typing that up for me
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Haha, glad I could save your fingers some effort!
Coming from a Tilt 2, this phone is amazing! No more worrying about running out of memory. No more watching the battery guage go from 100% to 70% just by sitting on my nightstand overnight! No more typing and watching the letters show up on the screen 5 seconds later! Also, I love the qHD screen.
For my first Android phone, I think I made a wise choice!
I have no regrets about the phone, but getting angrier by the day about the bootloader. Seems absurd that htcdev doesn't have the unlock tool on day 1, let alone day 10, especially since its brother models are up there. Grumble, grumble...
I went to the Vivid from my trusty Inspire. The Vivid doesn't seem to be as sturdy as the Inspire, but still a nice phone. The 1.2 GHz dual core proc keeps everything running slick and smooth, but all that power sure generates some heat! This thing gets super hot when I run GPS, Bluetooth Audio, and other stuff at the same time. As soon as this thing gets an AOSP rom... it will be great!
-TH
I regret getting this phone, but I couldn't tell you a better option it's so hard to tell with phones without living with one for a week beforehand, and I don't have that luxury. I am displeased with some things within this phone to the point where I would move if I was given the option. I look at other phones and really I couldn't tell if I would actually like them once I had them.
If I could get an android from Telstra with a full slide out keyboard, that wasn't a low/mid range 450Mhtz snooze fest, I would jump ship so very quickly, I'm a fan of physical keyboards. Next time around though I think my main guiding factor will be stock android (ie a Nexus of some variety, or a phone that gets stock android asap)
Pro's
1. Camera is pretty nice, microphone is rubbish for vid, but the picture quality is very nice
2. Battery is pretty good under ICS, no android has awesome battery, but this I am finding pleasantly surprising.
3. Lots of internal space for apps and media
4. microSD card slot.
5. LTE, in Australia this is the only LTE handset currently available.
6. MHL compatibility is pretty nice with video output to HDMI via the adaptor.
7. Cheap accessories from ebay, covers and stuff are common, they are however unheard-of in shops in Australia, cant even get a screen protector or a cover from Telstra themselves, and they offer no solution beyond ebay
Con's
1. This is the first "sense" android I have used long term, and I gave it a good run but I hate sense so very much, and the ICS update to sense 3.6 made sense worse for me, sure its lighter and faster now, but features I want are now gone. I came from mostly using GB MIUI on a HTC HD2 to this phone with sense, and sense is just so far behind MIUI it's not even funny, sense feels like winmo 6.5, I was so disappointed.
2. Due to many reasons, not necessarily the handsets fault, the development options and ROM selection is quite limited, I came from a HTC HD2, which could run anything under the sun, and had developers coming out of the wazoo, even supported dual-booting and running ROM's from the SD card, including full desktop operating systems, I miss that hack-ability of the HD2.
3. The back cover falls off all the damn time, I can't get the damn thing to stick. Even if under another cover, it slides up and interferes with the speaker and the flash/lens of the camera, all of a sudden my photos are darker and I'll be like, wait not again, YES THE DAMNED BACK COVER AGAIN! This is a retarded design.
4. HTC's version of exchange email support is rubbish, the stock android app is miles ahead of it, I don't know why they feel they need to rewrite it because they replace awesome with mediocre.
5. USB mounting of the drives are hit and miss, sometimes both volumes don't mount, or none mount, other times they are good for 50 disconnection/reconnection in a row.
6. on the stock OTA update for ICS, issues with the screen remaining dull/not adjusting properly and all of the missing options that GB had are driving me nuts.
7. if I roll back to GB and attach my phone to exchange using the same account, I can install APK's still, under ICS with the same account, the security option is hidden from me... I can no longer install APK's under ICS.
8. whilst streaming music to my A2DP car adapter, I cannot find any way to get the email notifications to NOT interfere with the music, even if I remove all notifications it still makes the music "skip" slightly when an email comes in... this is frustrating, thought I feel it is an ICS issue as this wasn't a problem with GB.
Just my experience, if someone offered to swap a galaxy nexus I'd probably jump at the opportunity, and I'm kicking myself that I didn't take it (it was an option available at the time I needed a new phone).
I've been wanting to get a new phone to replace my s3 but was looking between the note 2 and the HTC one and would like to ask the owners they're opinion. What are the pros and cons you have found, what are your favorite parts of the phone, battery life, responsiveness and speed etc...
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I've come from having the hero, the HTC evo shift and the evo design. This phone is a million times better. I haven't noticed any lag. Sense is very smooth and fast. Battery life is impressive. I thought my evo design was cool, but this phone is amazing. I've been waiting and hearing about a phone like this since I first got my HTC hero. I wouldn't go by what I have to say though. I would read reviews, watch videos and even go to a store to try it out. You can even buy it and try it out for a little while as long as you take care of it, then if you didn't like it take it back.
Here is my phone history as of the last 2-3 years.
HTC EVO - EVO 3D- S2- Evo LTE - S3 - One
I've gone back and forth on HTC and Samsung.
I like the upgrade from S3 to the One.
However, if you are deciding between the Note II and the One that's really an apple to oranges comparison.
They serve different functions.
Battery: The battery of the One is better than the S3. And if you didn't have problems making it a day with the S3 then you wont have a problem with the One.
HDD Space: The One comes with about 25gb of usable storage. If this this good enough for you then I don't a problem.
I hope this helps.
Had a Captivate Glide and a Note II and I just traded my Note for the HTC One. Couldn't have been happier with my decision. I will miss some of the minor stuff that TouchWiz had like the ability to scroll left to right instead of up and down in the app drawer and being able to group stuff into folders but that's nothing that a launcher or custom rom cant fix. Stereo speakers and a 468ppi 1080p screen makes watching videos at least 4-5x better for me then it was on my Note II.
The HTC One is such an amazing phone. I was damn impressed when I was playing around with the phone when I first got it and it was installing like 50 applications in the background, one after another without slowing the phone down at allllllll.... I didn't even know it was installing them until I saw the notifications pop up in the top bar. The camera is amazing and pulls in phenomenal sound quality. HDR mode works like a charm. Very solid build with the all metal body. The screen actually does a great job repelling fingerprints. If you do decide to wipe it once in a while, one wipe across your shirt should leave it flawless again. The phone does feel like it gets hot sometimes but it's a metal phone so it will absorb more heat than plastic does. On the plus side, it also acts like a heat-sync for the phone keeping the inside cooler.
There's already a root available for it and a couple different ROMs. The entire process is actually very simple to do as well. I did it for the first time ever and found it too easy to be considered a project lol.
You won't be let down by the HTC One if you decide to get it.
Cheers!
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being able to group stuff into folders
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The One can do just that.
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The One can do just that.
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Thanks, realized I had to be in custom mode for the app drawer to do folders
I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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This should help you decide
Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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I too would go for Nexus. What it loses in build, it more makes up more than enough in price and support.
So, if you are gonna buy nexus, i would recommend you to watch this video to decide whether to go for black or white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCaAq_pKjY
There are structural and build differences
Go with the nexus. I had nexus 4 but took my brothers one and he ordered the 5. The phone is amazing. I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4. In terms of fluidity both phones are very fast but comparing stock vanilla Roms, nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe. Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense. And even if its by a couple weeks, Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you. Development will also be better on nexus, I'd get it just for Franco kernel and touch control lol. I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC. The true HDR+ feature works wonders.
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I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4.
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waste of space, you loose a portion of the screen for nothing, One with the soft button is better.
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nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe
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wrong, 4.2.2 GPE had a sense base framework, with the 4.3 it's completly removed and stock so will be the 4.4
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Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense.
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i think is overrated have 4x 2.3ghz cpu instead of a 4x 1.7, you can run everything even on a snapdragon 400.. the 800 is better ofc but an upgrade from the 600 is pointless.
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Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you.
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two week difference is also not a good excuse to choose the N5 over the M7 GPE.
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I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC.
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all major sites (android police, android autority, anand, theverge, ecc) and the best youtubers says that the 8mpx camera on the N5 is pretty crap, not hardware site but software site, like postprocessing and all that stuff and a major upgrade is waited to fix poor quality video/photo.
reviewers says also that the stock sound on the N5 is low (like the Galaxy Nexus problem) but could be fixed using custom roms/kernels.. i mean the loudspeaker and not music like but ringtones, Google wtf are you doing? Build quality is medium, back cover is nice touchy.. and the camera gap si a bad choice also.
M7 has a better build quality overall, will have the same os with the GPE conversion and OTA (~15 days), better sound (a lot better), screen is a full 1080p with external buttons, you could switch to Sense if needed.
the only thing i wish i could have on the M7 converted is the amoled display with the Moto X active notification, that would be fantastic.
PRO for the N5? the price.
oh yes, the always listening feature: only works on EN-US, and extra US Google Now is pretty useless atm.
ps: in my country M7 could be found starting from 430€ new, the N5 is 350€ from Play Store.. no kidding.
Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Someone blames HTC for not having navbar on the One, i would never understand this.. ok it's my opinion, like what i'm thinking about the navbar on tablets, but it's another story.
Camera on N5 will probably fixed with a better postprocessing engine, not that big deal, but sound is really an issue.. and kernels are not an excuse because a lot of people just stay on Stock Rom and maybe just root/busybox, they will never loose time or have the knowledge to flash a deodexed modded cooked rom with custom kernel to improve something that should just work fine out of the box.. want to talk about the sound volume problem on the Galaxy Nexus? or the really poor wifi and the C8 bug? and what about the Nexus 4? with the loudspeaker inudible when it's on a flat surface? they fixed with a new phisical revision.. and the washed color screen? only fix is over kernel with colour control.
Talking about the CPU/GPU ofc it's an upgrade from snap600 to 800, but it's worth? only for the geek i would say, speed is blazing fast for both of them and the only benefit could be on battery usage, maybe 800 is better but who knows? ony the Note3 and the HTC One Max have the 800 version and they have both totally different battery capacity and different OS (touchwiz and sense) so cannot be comparable, soon we will see.. gaming side they are both excelent.. you can play Battlefield at the same level with an i5 or an i7, with a titan or a 780, bigger number is not always better perfomarce.
the N5 will have other problems like all phones have, M7 is not perfect (build gap in some early ships, pink camera issues) but let's compare: they have the same screen resolution, the same dimension, the same android official version (soon), none of them has removal battery, none has sdcard expansion, both have LTE.. 32gb M7 is 430€ here, 32gb N5 is 399€..
imho m7 wins.
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