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For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.
What is the name of the app?
BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?
You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175
Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.
At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.
Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)
nolageek said:
Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.
This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.
I get that instagram is all about filters but I'm talking about photo resolution on the uploads. The photos shared from my One are far more pixelated and jaggy (overall crappy .jpgs themselves instead of filter related) than photos from my iPhone 4s were. Is there any reason for this drop in quality of pictures? What's the point of having this awesome camera if all the photos I share to both instagram and facebook look so crappy when shared?
These are 612x612 pictures there shouldn't even need to be any compression done on them to warrant the loss in quality.
Facebook is similar, I can readily zoom on my friends' iOS uploads from my phone but my uploads are letterboxed on my screen and I can't zoom in on them. It's frustrating when one of the reasons I switched to this phone was for photo quality.
I know it's not the phone's fault because they look great on here, so what's the deal with these apps and does anybody know how to fix?
Mine look fine
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Mine look fine
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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They look okay but there's a noticeable drop in quality from the same scene (even the same photo if I put the iOS photo on my android phone). Either Instagram, Facebook, or the Android upload system is scaling the pics down more than is done with iOS photos.
It's not deal breaking but when part of the reason you switch phones is the improved camera tech on the new one, it's a little grating that your 2 year old phone's photos look clearer than your new one's photos on social media sites.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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What's happening is that a 612 x 612 resolution photograph is being scaled up to a screen that is 1080 pixels across and more than an inch larger. The iPhone 4S only had 640 pixels across so its no comparison. The much higher resolution and the vastly larger screen is why the pictures look pixelated on the HTC One. Instagram should really consider increasing the image size to 1024 x 1024 seeing as how mobile displays have come a long way since the Retina displays of 2010.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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I did notice that on the last picture I posted. The letters seemed jagged. Of course, we probably can't expect a fix for a while because all the major app developers cater to the iPhone users first. Instagram was iPhone only for a long time.
I think the 16:9 sensor may have something to do with it, as opposed to the 4:3 on most other phones
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retnuh730 said:
I agree with what you're saying but actually my issues come from the photos themselves when viewed on a regular computer browser window. I can look at my instagram history from the photos I post now to the ones I posted a few weeks ago with my iPhone and they're noticeably jaggier for some reason coming from the One. It's a shame but hopefully it's a minor bump in the road towards the future I agree should happen.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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Ahh I gotcha. If anything it sounds like its a setting with the Instagram app for Android. If you can, maybe you can try it on another Android phone and see if the issues persist. If they do it's due to the app, if not then unfortunately it would be the phone acting wonky.
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I think it may be phone specific. The pictures from my EVO LTE never looked like that. I will post the same picture from both phones sometime and compare to see if there is noticeable difference.
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
ITS ME DAVID said:
I'm having this problem on my gs4 never had this problem on my iPhone 5 any ideas for a work around.
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I went to the settings->advanced features and unchecked the two options there and my pictures seem to look better. I'm glad you've noticed this as well because I feel like people who've only used android don't realize how much nicer pics from the iPhone looked.
Yeah, I just noticed this as well. The pics actually look worse than those from my old Galaxy SII, which had a terrible camera. What the hell, instagram?
I've noticed this as well...the pictures take a big hit in IQ when uploaded to Instagram. The copies saved to the phone look fine, but they do look pretty bad on Instagram. Even the preview thumbnails took a hit.
My friend has a SGS4 and his pictures come out SUPER jagged....mine do not suffer from that problem but do look watered down.
Pictures look much, much, MUCH better on the iPhone 5.
anybody looked at the compression rate?
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anybody looked at the compression rate?
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How do you check that?
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How do you check that?
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its in the app...u know like how they uncompress the mms pic size...ive seen this happen in a bunch of other apps also
pics look terrible
It seems that the apps is over compressing and applying sharpening to them. I have the HTC One international version.
The last couple of days I thought I was going crazy when seeing the crappy quality of the uploaded photos.
I will upload a couple of pics later to see if disabling High quality processing in the Advanced options fixes this.
It most probably something related with new phones, as some Galaxy S4 users are reporting the same problem with their phones.
Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
retnuh730 said:
Someone posted this on reddit... there's a clear difference here for anybody who was wondering or didn't notice it before.
http://i.imgur.com/3l1AnoQ.jpg
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I've also noticed this. You are not going crazy.
Am I the only one who has problem that the photos i took with HTC One look perfectly fine with great details on phone, but when being uploaded to facebook, they look completely different. The attached is an example of a blurry face and washout picture taken in Liverpool, but it was perfect when viewed on my phone. Do I have a problem with my camera?
I dont see anything wrong with the picture attached. Is this supposed to be the facebook sample?
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I dont see anything wrong with the picture attached. Is this supposed to be the facebook sample?
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Yes it is, is it a normal photo taken by HTC One viewed on a computer? Coz it is so much different where when viewed on my HTC One, i can clearly see my face and the saturation is higher, now when uploaded to computer my face becomes blurry and the photo looks pale
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Yes it is, is it a normal photo taken by HTC One viewed on a computer? Coz it is so much different where when viewed on my HTC One, i can clearly see my face and the saturation is higher, now when uploaded to computer my face becomes blurry and the photo looks pale
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With our phones, the zoom isn't that great cause of the lack of Megapixels, but its not that blurry, if you wanted to crop out your face you shoulda had the pic taken closer. Sorry bud. As for the saturation, that seems fine to me
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With our phones, the zoom isn't that great cause of the lack of Megapixels, but its not that blurry, if you wanted to crop out your face you shoulda had the pic taken closer. Sorry bud. As for the saturation, that seems fine to me
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But i didn't zoom it before the upload, i just don't understand the difference between photos viewed on my phone and on my computer, where before the upload it looked perfectly fine on my phone. Could it be the lower ppi of my computer screen? I personally think that my HTC Incredible S takes better photos in this regard where the photos taken by it, will look the same on my computer.
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But i didn't zoom it before the upload, i just don't understand the difference between photos viewed on my phone and on my computer, where before the upload it looked perfectly fine on my phone. Could it be the lower ppi of my computer screen? I personally think that my HTC Incredible S takes better photos in this regard where the photos taken by it, will look the same on my computer.
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My point was that it seemed as if you were cropping the picture, the photos the one takes are great, the cropping, not so much. The cameras strength i slow light, which it has great results in
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My point was that it seemed as if you were cropping the picture, the photos the one takes are great, the cropping, not so much. The cameras strength i slow light, which it has great results in
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No i didn't crop it before uploading it. The photos i crop on my phone still look great, but only on my phone. Do you have any explanation of the reason behind the difference between the quality of the same photo when viewed on phone and on computer? But i concur on the point that HTC One takes amazing low light shots, until i upload them on to facebook or view them on computer.
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No i didn't crop it before uploading it. The photos i crop on my phone still look great, but only on my phone. Do you have any explanation of the reason behind the difference between the quality of the same photo when viewed on phone and on computer? But i concur on the point that HTC One takes amazing low light shots, until i upload them on to facebook or view them on computer.
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maybe its the upload process, are you uploading straight from the fb app? if so connect you phone to your comp and put the picture on your hard drive, sometimes fb uploads ata lower quality
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maybe its the upload process, are you uploading straight from the fb app? if so connect you phone to your comp and put the picture on your hard drive, sometimes fb uploads ata lower quality
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I transferred the photos to my computer before uploading it to facebook, and the size of the photos remained the same, they still don't look presentable on my computer like how it is on my phone. *sigh*. I wonder if i could get a replacement based on this reason. hahahahaha
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Am I the only one who has problem that the photos i took with HTC One look perfectly fine with great details on phone, but when being uploaded to facebook, they look completely different. The attached is an example of a blurry face and washout picture taken in Liverpool, but it was perfect when viewed on my phone. Do I have a problem with my camera?
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well, not sure what kind of monitor are you using but the saturation on HTC One is one of the highest on the smartphones market today(according to GSMArena, only behind super amoled). Your phone's screen is surely much superior to your desktop/laptop display in term of contrast so it is obvious that you see much punchier color when viewing on your phone
It's a known issue coz of the big sensor and lesser pixels.
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It's a known issue coz of the big sensor and lesser pixels.
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It has nothing to do with that. The sensor size is exactly the same as every other smartphone out there. Lesser pixels would not be the reason as well because when zoomed in on the phone, it's still reading the same data.
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It has nothing to do with that. The sensor size is exactly the same as every other smartphone out there. Lesser pixels would not be the reason as well because when zoomed in on the phone, it's still reading the same data.
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Sensor size doesn't affect resolution. You can have 16 Mpx on a tiny sensor and have much sharper but more grainy fb posts
The problem is simply that 4 megapixels isn't enough to zoom into someones face from that distance and expect minute details - that's a DSLRs job.
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Sensor size doesn't affect resolution. You can have 16 Mpx on a tiny sensor and have much sharper but more grainy fb posts
The problem is simply that 4 megapixels isn't enough to zoom into someones face from that distance and expect minute details - that's a DSLRs job.
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That's exactly what I said lol But the issue is the zoomed in face on the phone looks perfectly fine but horrible on PC According to the OP that is.
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That's exactly what I said lol But the issue is the zoomed in face on the phone looks perfectly fine but horrible on PC According to the OP that is.
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He must have a bad monitor maybe OP should spend less time climbing on English property, and more time buying a new monitor xD
The Perfectionist said:
Am I the only one who has problem that the photos i took with HTC One look perfectly fine with great details on phone, but when being uploaded to facebook, they look completely different. The attached is an example of a blurry face and washout picture taken in Liverpool, but it was perfect when viewed on my phone. Do I have a problem with my camera?
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Did u choose high quality upload on fb?
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Try a different computer.
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He must have a bad monitor maybe OP should spend less time climbing on English property, and more time buying a new monitor xD
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Hahahah i love the line 'OP should spend less time climbing on English property'. I believe I have a quite decent laptop, with 2GB Nvidia graphics card and i5 processor the screen shouldn't be too bad. But i do realise that HTC One has a better screen than my laptop screen, in terms of ppi. What makes me think i have a problem with my phone is that upon comparison with photos shared by others, mine just seem mediocre. Perhaps i should spend more time on adjusting the sharpness, contrast, etc.
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Did u choose high quality upload on fb?
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This happens even when i transfer the photos to my computer and view them, they just don't look half as good as they look on my phone. I could play battlefield COD on my laptop without any lags and the graphics blew me away, so i guess screen quality shouldn't be a problem. I don't have this issue with my HTC Incredible S, the photos still look good when viewed on the same laptop.
You should actually REDUCE sharpness cos Sharpness at 0 there is still sharpness being applied through software. -1 works much better.
I'm trying to take a panorama with my Z3C. Lighting is good (bright daylight). I've panned from very slow to very quickly. Everytime, it says it cannot take the picture and tells me to pan faster. "Cannot take picture. Please pan faster."
I also tried it indoors just to see. Same error message.
Any ideas? The superior auto mode and manual modes work fine. This is my first time trying panorama and it's simply not working. Thanks.
Edit: One more piece of info. In the little "preview" at the bottom of the screen that shows a tiny version of the panorama that is being taken, it IS filling in as expected, so it appears that things are working. But when I take my finger off the shutter it gives me the error message.
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I'm trying to take a panorama with my Z3C. Lighting is good (bright daylight). I've panned from very slow to very quickly. Everytime, it says it cannot take the picture and tells me to pan faster. "Cannot take picture. Please pan faster."
I also tried it indoors just to see. Same error message.
Any ideas? The superior auto mode and manual modes work fine. This is my first time trying panorama and it's simply not working. Thanks.
Edit: One more piece of info. In the little "preview" at the bottom of the screen that shows a tiny version of the panorama that is being taken, it IS filling in as expected, so it appears that things are working. But when I take my finger off the shutter it gives me the error message.
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It takes practice to get it right. I believe that if you also change the altitude it will say the same. So try to pan at the same height or it will also say the same thing.
Thanks for the input. I've tried about 50 times. Can't seem to get it!
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I gave up on the panorama, it literally is the worst thing I have ever tried. I might just get a Panorama app for taking those types of pics. I know the struggle that you are having. The only way to get it to work, is to do a full sweep, that seems to be it.
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I gave up on the panorama, it literally is the worst thing I have ever tried. I might just get a Panorama app for taking those types of pics. I know the struggle that you are having. The only way to get it to work, is to do a full sweep, that seems to be it.
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Oh you have to sweep all the way till the entire thumbnail at the bottom is filled up with picture? That's truly ridiculous, if so.
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I gave up on the panorama, it literally is the worst thing I have ever tried. I might just get a Panorama app for taking those types of pics. I know the struggle that you are having. The only way to get it to work, is to do a full sweep, that seems to be it.
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Oh you have to sweep all the way till the entire thumbnail at the bottom is filled up with picture? That's truly ridiculous, if so.
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Yes you have to, thought you knew that.
If you don't you'll get a part of the picture that's just grey.
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Yes you have to, thought you knew that.
If you don't you'll get a part of the picture that's just grey.
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Nope, didn't know that, and it makes Sony panorama mode completely worthless. I don't always need my panorama to be the maximum width permitted by the software. Sometimes i only need it to be slightly wider that one picture would allow.
I think this is the first phone I've had in years that forces panoramas to be the same size every time. Ridiculous.
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phositadc said:
Nope, didn't know that, and it makes Sony panorama mode completely worthless. I don't always need my panorama to be the maximum width permitted by the software. Sometimes i only need it to be slightly wider that one picture would allow.
I think this is the first phone I've had in years that forces panoramas to be the same size every time. Ridiculous.
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I downloaded Google Camera for just Panorama.
NRG1975 said:
I downloaded Google Camera for just Panorama.
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Is the quality decent?
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Is the quality decent?
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For the most part, yeah. But I only use it for Panorama pics, and that is it. Istill use the built in Sony app fpr all other camera work.
Image sample please?
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For the most part, yeah. But I only use it for Panorama pics, and that is it. Istill use the built in Sony app fpr all other camera work.
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Hey mate, thanks a lot for mentioning that you use Google Camera for Panoramas. I want to purchase the Z3C but have this huge concern over the small resolution of panoramas.
Could you please upload a good highest possible res panorama image here? I want it just to check the quality of the panorama. I don't want panorama images to be limited by Sony's hardware, that's the thing. Could you please upload a full size panorama? Thanks a lot!
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Hey mate, thanks a lot for mentioning that you use Google Camera for Panoramas. I want to purchase the Z3C but have this huge concern over the small resolution of panoramas.
Could you please upload a good highest possible res panorama image here? I want it just to check the quality of the panorama. I don't want panorama images to be limited by Sony's hardware, that's the thing. Could you please upload a full size panorama? Thanks a lot!
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I have managed to get a half panorama on my Xperia Z3 (Not compact model) and when you get the photo that has grey you just need to crop it, very hard to get it perfect though becuase it still expects you want the entire sized pano -_- heres a pic of a half pano I took on my Z3.
Works fine on mine although I've found it doesn't like low light conditions, that's when it starts giving me the pan faster error...
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I have managed to get a half panorama on my Xperia Z3 (Not compact model) and when you get the photo that has grey you just need to crop it, very hard to get it perfect though becuase it still expects you want the entire sized pano -_- heres a pic of a half pano I took on my Z3.
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Thanks a lot for responding with your helpful photo and comment, I'm sorry I wasn't active on this site and I forgot about the question that I asked here.
I got the Z3C finally just 10 days ago! Haven't installed the Google Camera app as yet, as I am waiting for my MicroSD card to arrive so that I don't block up all the internal storage. Once I get it, I'll install the Google Camera app and check out the Pano on my own too.
Thanks for your help mate, appreciate it!
Has anyone noticed that on photos a big part of a photo is not in focus, just only that part on which you click for it to focus... I have these situation a lot happening.. And it is not aperture/portrait mode... One example is attached..
dont use Photo with AI.
hodostamas said:
dont use Photo with AI.
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I am not using AI, that issue is with every photo
Physics. It‘s f1.6 on a fairly large sensor.
Same here, too shallow depth of field caused by f1.6, you can avoid it by taking a step back and zooming in a bit to get the same picture..
For a lot of people this feature is what makes the camera on this phone so good.
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For a lot of people this feature is what makes the camera on this phone so good.
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Indeed. More DSLR-like behavior is always welcome. I love being able to have shallow DOF it's a big plus and makes photos look so much better.
That's terrible! There's no option to select the focus that you want... If a take a shot from a hamburger, only the meat is focused... It only focus the center of the pic.
Try using the wide angle lens for such closeups