Seems like a dumb question since I like the stock navigation software. But I no longer use my G1 as my daily driver. I was thinking of making it a stand alone GPS unit. However, with no SIM card, the stock nav software won't work. I need a nav app that stores the maps to the SD card. Are there any out there for Android?
I'm using sygic mobile maps 2010 atm on my g1 which I reckon is better than its competitors; copilot and navigon. All three store maps on the sd card
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All three of those I haven't heard of. I did find Orux and Map Droyd, but didn't like them too much. I'll give Sygic a try next. Thanks
OOOOK, I should have mentioned a free one would be nice
Google is your friend
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You did see I "found" two others, and I didn't do it by telepathy
I meant you can obtain any paid app for free by using google
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Hey, we don't advocate that here. Talk about what you want in private, but please don't encourage piracy on the forums.
There are a few paid apps, they cost quite a bit. However, since you're going to be driving around without a sim card (which effectively means no cell data connection), you'll need an application that stores its maps locally, otherwise you'll be sunk if you deviate from your path outside of a wifi hotspot.
There are, however, a few other navigation systems, but they cost a pretty penny.
Telenav, CoPilot and Destinator 9 are all on the market (from $29.99 to $69.99) and both CoPilot and Destinator 9 store their maps locally (I couldn't figure out if Telenav does or not). They cost a lot, but it might be worth it to you.
Free apps are less likely to store maps locally, versus downloading them on the fly. I seem to remember that AndNav2 can use preloaded maps, but they have a very limited supply. If you happen to live in one of these areas, then perhaps AndNav2 is a good idea for you.
Otherwise, if you can't afford a paid app, I'm not sure if you'll be able to use your G1 as you planned.
iGO
http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/
Thank you both. Jordanjay, thanks for the indepth response, and maybe that will be useful for others, but you really just repeated what I was looking for I know without a sim I'll need local maps, and I know there are paid apps. I was specifically looking for a free one. And you did that as well. I do live in the USA, so I'll give AndNav2 a shot.
jorobochi: Where do I get the iGO software? There site just goes on and on about what their software is. It appears to only be available if it came with your phone. And as Jordan mentioned, if I have to "find" it, don't worry about answering.
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alright i didn't want to have to do this but here it is, i have used the followig roms and radios and gotten the same results:
ryncppr diamond appeal v4
confused stu mobile vista 1.3
shogun deathrom beta v1 and v3
original att rom build 19209
with all 1.65.xx.xx radios i could find except radio from hell.
i am using google maps 2.0.1.18, for a while googlemaps was kickass because i am horrible with directions and i could use google maps to get me from point a to point b without getting lost, my GPS fix was great and was always accurate within a few feet even in my basement of my house. then one day a few weeks ago i stopped being able to get a fix, it says seeking gps sattelites(0) and nothing happens. i live in fenton missouri in the states, fenton is just outside of st. louis and i am covered by a 3g network. i live less than 5 miles from three att towers so i see no reason for my googlemaps to have quit on me unless my phone has gone deffective. if anyone has any idea or can atleast tell me that they have had the same problem i will worry less about it and move on without my little blue and white dot that moves along on my map. thanks in advance you guys are great
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alright i didn't want to have to do this but here it is, i have used the followig roms and radios and gotten the same results:
ryncppr diamond appeal v4
confused stu mobile vista 1.3
shogun deathrom beta v1 and v3
original att rom build 19209
with all 1.65.xx.xx radios i could find except radio from hell.
i am using google maps 2.0.1.18, for a while googlemaps was kickass because i am horrible with directions and i could use google maps to get me from point a to point b without getting lost, my GPS fix was great and was always accurate within a few feet even in my basement of my house. then one day a few weeks ago i stopped being able to get a fix, it says seeking gps sattelites(0) and nothing happens. i live in fenton missouri in the states, fenton is just outside of st. louis and i am covered by a 3g network. i live less than 5 miles from three att towers so i see no reason for my googlemaps to have quit on me unless my phone has gone deffective. if anyone has any idea or can atleast tell me that they have had the same problem i will worry less about it and move on without my little blue and white dot that moves along on my map. thanks in advance you guys are great
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I had the same problem with my kaiser all the radios and ROMs in the world wouldnt help, but I got the phone replaced and now it works when using the same radios and ROMs as my previous phone... My bet is that the GPS reciever is broken
you know google maps isnt 100% accurate
thanks that wasn't the answer i wanted but i called att today and they are sending me a refurbished phone, thanks. as for google maps not being 100% accurate, it doesn't have to be, in most places it tells me within a few feet and i use it when i'm driving to new places and i just have to make sure that my little dot is on the purple line or near enough to let me know where i am. i refuse to pay for the crap that att sells because i can get it for free with google maps and i have used it for a year now and this is the first time it failed me, people with telenav complain all the time and this weekend my girlfriend had a run in with a tom tom and it got her lost in the bad side of town my google has never done that
ok so i called att and they sent me a new tilt under warranty, when it arrived the usb port did not work, i could not sync with my computer so i called them and they express shipped me another one after marking the first as DOA. when my second one arrived it had a cracked lcd screen and when people called me i could not hear them and they could not hear me. somewhere in this time frame my GPS fixed itself and they are expecting me to send it to them, do you think they would notice if i sent the three phones they sent me back to them and kept my old one?
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ok so i called att and they sent me a new tilt under warranty, when it arrived the usb port did not work, i could not sync with my computer so i called them and they express shipped me another one after marking the first as DOA. when my second one arrived it had a cracked lcd screen and when people called me i could not hear them and they could not hear me. somewhere in this time frame my GPS fixed itself and they are expecting me to send it to them, do you think they would notice if i sent the three phones they sent me back to them and kept my old one?
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Yes because they have identified the phone by the IMEI #. I would call AT&T and explain the situation. Don't see why they wouldn't be accommodating.
i refuse to pay for the crap that att sells because i can get it for free with google maps and i have used it for a year now and this is the first time it failed me, people with telenav complain all the time and this weekend my girlfriend had a run in with a tom tom and it got her lost in the bad side of town my google has never done that
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Google maps didn't fail you, your phone did. Also I don't see what you being near a major city or a cell tower has to do with a satellite cruising through space.
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Google maps didn't fail you, your phone did. Also I don't see what you being near a major city or a cell tower has to do with a satellite cruising through space.
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Google maps can be used without the aid of a GPS. The locations (0) will give you a close location based on the tower(s) location.
alright, thanks ATW i will call them later when i have a chance and try to explain, and congrats on becoming moderator
after flashing ,y phone i lost the use of my GPS on google maps
Okay I did search and I have seen it posted BOTH ways I am not a big fan of hacked cracked or Warez apps right now I am running a rom that come bundled with tomtom6 I then installed tomtom7 from the post here but when I went to download the freeby map and voices I got a weird error so I popped over to tomtom.com and my version doesn't seem to be legal before I yank it out can someone tell me once and for all if I am legal ?
I suppose the blunt answer is that if a) you haven't paid TomTom money for the software, or b) the software wasn't included in an official ROM on your device for 'trial' purposes; then you are outside terms of the licence - in simple terms, not legal.
There is however reasonable grounds for debate given that TomTom seem to be forgetting the PDA community to ever more significant levels. That's particularly out of order when you consider that it was really PDA users that put TomTom on the map (no pun intended) and really helped the consumer satellite navigation system market flourish into the extremely lucrative enterprise it now is.
The situation we're in now is that we've bank-rolled a good portion of TomTom's discreet product development, and indeed commercial success; and it seems our party-invites are being forgotten...
At the end of the day the product development and channel support for PDA users is shrinking more and more. The only real way to have a chance (and it's not guaranteed) of owning up-to-date (and therefore really useful) TomTom sat nav for your PDA is if you happen to buy one of only a handful of devices which fall inside the remit of the deal TomTom did with HTC. The next kick in the nuts is when you find out that even though you own a perfectly capable device, manufactured by the company who are in bed with TomTom, you still don't automatically join the party because the chances are you got your Diamond/Kaiser/Whatever from your Telco; and re-brands of device and software don't fall inside the same deal.
So, Mr A with his ageing but still capable iPaq can't buy a recent version of Navigator and a map for it because PDA software isn't out in the channel. And also Mr B, who owns a shiny-new Kaiser, but may have got it in the form of a Vaio III from T-Mobile, or a Tilt from those lovely folks over the pond, also can't get the software; again even though it is in existence, simply because they got their HTC manufactured (and the key point here is that HTC still made their £££, it was just T-Mobile/AT&T/Orange/whoever signing the cheque rather than Mr B himself) from a Telco because it worked out to be £0-£100 for the device rather than £300-500 to buy it 'SIM free'. The fact that TomTom are slowly and quietly dropping their PDA customers winds me up enough, but the fact a good number of HTC customers are excluded from the ever-shrinking party simply because their Telco subsidised part of the purchase price of the device makes it even worse.
So, relatively up-to-date versions of TomTom navigator for PDAs do exist, as do relatively up-to-date maps and extras (traffic/safety camera subscriptions). The only problem is that even if you want to, it's near impossible to spend your money on them.
Does this make TomTom a bunch of clowns for still putting some resource into development but at the same time slamming the door on a large number of loyal users who would still quite happily help them recoup or even profit on those costs, absolutely. Should they be surprised if some people find other ways around those obstacles when pound-notes fail, probably not. Does that make it ethical - it's debatable (but for the sake of this great site's legal-footing, that debate can't really take place here. ...Does it make it legal, alas no.
So, for the black-and-white legal position on the matter, read the first paragraph again. Anything beyond that I think is up to the individual, who has to decide whether they'll risk/be prepared for/accept any potential consequences of other actions which fall outside of TomTom's frankly ridiculous position.
I can't help wondering what the blinkered-idiots at TomTom are thinking on this issue. As far as I can see they currently have product available, and there's no real reason why that can't continue for the forseeable future given that most of the development cost will still be incurred if they only shipped discreet devices (ie, it can't cost that much extra to make sure there's a pretty recent PDA version living alongside their discreet products); BUT, they've more or less completely closed every route to market. Which Mickey Mouse school of business did these chumps go to? Yes, I see the point that they stand to make more money by selling you a Go! 940 Live than a software-only product for your PDA; but I for one certainly won't go running out to buy a 940 (or its descendant) if all possibility of my running an up-to-date version on my PDA ceases. I think I'll be feeling alienated enough to give my money to Navman, Garmin or any of the others first. Likewise they could, and should have enough confidence in their own discreet products to see that there are USPs differentiating both markets - some folks just one a gadget to do sat nav, and nothing else, they want it to be integrated and simple, with more focus on certain aspects of specification. On the other hand some folks will always have the need for a PDA, and would prefer not to have a rucksack full of electronics to carry with us - OK, we might not get all the benefits of a discreet sat nav unit; but if it's that way or the highway (again, no pun intended, I'm just one damn funny guy ), why exclude our money from your coffers.
Anyway, in short; you're probably a little outside of licensing and copyright law; but at the moment it's probably fair to say that TomTom have left us out in the cold to some degree, so you should just feel the force/go with your heart/<insert other suitable cliché here>...
Rant over.
Love and hugs (to everyone apart from TomTom's marketeers),
Rob.
Write to TomTom and let the boss know what you think
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TomTom seem to be forgetting the PDA community to ever more significant levels.
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I know what you mean and (after several unsatifying phonecalls to the company) I recently sent their big cheese (at HQ in the Netherlands) a letter about it. Sometimes buying a dedicated TomTom device just isn't an answer - for example I use my TyTN II for navigation on my bicycle (using a TyTN II handlebar mount) and on foot alot of the time so there's no way I'm going to carry around a 12 volt battery just to power a dedicated, comparitively bulky, TomTom device.
I suggest you write to them as well, The addresses and manager/supervisor names and positions are all on their website. I'd be happy with TomTom Navigator 6 if it weren't for the fact the map I have (which is the latest available) is very outdated and it doesn't support map share or any other similar way of getting any sort of update. I refuse to pay for a product thats not officially supported (eg buying a map for an illegal version of TTN7 on a Kaiser) so I'm just making do with TTN 6 and my purchased compatible map, the rest of my money is staying in my wallet.
You are correct in that it is a glaring example of missed marketing opportunities. Perhaps given their tremendous growth in recent times, they are getting to big for their boots and think they can shape the market to suit their ideal, to a greater extent than they really can? They need to watch out or people will go with the competition.
I beleive their reasoning is that they're fed up of piracy. A bit silly really considering they're making piracy the only option.
Absolutely agree with everything posted here.
I have paid for TomTom Nav 6, the most up-to-date maps (early 2007), extra voices, Speed Camera & Traffic subscriptions - and have now been told it's no longer supported (they will not be issuing new maps).
I have raised support calls & spoken to them on the phone - they agree this is now obsolete and they have no plans to release TomTom 7 in this country (UK). They even said if you have TomTom 7 in the UK it's an illegal copy!
I want my money back. I was told there would be 4 map updates every year - there was only 1 update after I bought the software.
Having said all that, I am struggling to find a viable alternative. I need to traffic to make it worthwhile (as I do the same trips most days, but need traffic warnings due to motorway snarl-ups).
I'm v.impressed with the trial of Navigon MN7 - but there seems to be no way of getting TMC traffic on the Kaiser in the UK (outstanding support call with Navigon as well now...).
If anyone finds an alternative, please let me know.
I really don't understand TomTom's position on this. They have a market leading product and now choose to pull out of the market - at exactly the point you would expect the PDA solution to supercede the traditional separate unit. In my company we looking to stop using 250 TomTom units and repace them with an integrated PDA solution - so TomTom will (eventually) lose out big-style. They seem to be shooting themselves in the foot.
CoPilot Live 7 is one alternative that was bundled with some Kaisers
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If anyone finds an alternative, please let me know.
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CoPilot Live 7 works on the Kaiser, indeed some UK providers bundled the two together. I have no personal experience of the product so I don't know how up to date their maps are but CoPilot maps are provided by a different company to TomToms maps (Navteq vs TeleAtlas respectively) and fewer countries/regions are covered at the moment compared to TomTom, I'm sure a search here and on google will yield lots of results.
As for getting your money back, see if you can find some documentation showing they said there'd be 4 maps a year, then talk to the C.A.B. or your Trading Standards Office - good luck with that
I think you also have lots of good points that'd be best dealt with via a letter or Fax to the company boss. If they REALLY want to get out of that section of the market due to piracy issues, it's throwing out the baby with the bath water. Instead they should be looking at improving security and making the product less easy to steal - perhaps by using activation for BOTH the software AND maps.
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Anyway, in short; you're probably a little outside of licensing and copyright law; but at the moment it's probably fair to say that TomTom have left us out in the cold to some degree, so you should just feel the force/go with your heart/<insert other suitable cliché here>...
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Thanks for the clarification and for soothing my conscience...
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CoPilot Live 7 works on the Kaiser, indeed some UK providers bundled the two together. I have no personal experience of the product so I don't know how up to date their maps are but CoPilot maps are provided by a different company to TomToms maps (Navteq vs TeleAtlas respectively) and fewer countries/regions are covered at the moment compared to TomTom, I'm sure a search here and on google will yield lots of results.
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I have spoken to ALK regarding switching to CoPilot, but was told their maps are also over 18 months old, and they will not be releasing updates for CoPilot 7. They could not give me a date for CoPilot 8, but if they do not issue map updates, then it will be exactly the same problem as TomTom i.e. It will become obsolete.
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I have spoken to ALK regarding switching to CoPilot, but was told their maps are also over 18 months old,
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I could only dream of having a TomTom map thats age is in months rather than years!
they will not be releasing updates for CoPilot 7.
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Maybe not program updates but the map would still be newer to start with (although in fairness I've not compared the two in the areas where TomToms maps have things wrong).
They could not give me a date for CoPilot 8, but if they do not issue map updates, then it will be exactly the same problem as TomTom i.e. It will become obsolete.
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Most importantly, they've also not said they'll be releasing future versions only bundled with devices. This means if you're keen for the absolute latest and greatest maps and you're willing to pay, they'll still be providing suitable products - not something that can be said of TomTom.
I opened up the Market this morning, as I do most monings before I even wash my face ..... and was impressed with the following application.
https://www.wisepilot.com
I've used it once already, and although it got slightly confused with what I requested, I wanted to visit E10 and it took me to E15 ...... but it looks promising!
What do you think?
gah... looks nice I guess but subscription based.... ick. Better pricing than telenav I guess...
Telenav is actually the same price of $99/year at the moment, and you can get a 30-day trial, as opposed to Wisepilot's 5-day trial. Telenav also has an option for a 4-year subscription for $250. Wisepilot's trial didn't seem to work for me here in Phoenix, and I notice others have had problems in some states (and others have not). I'll mess with it again some time this weekend, and hopefully will be able to figure it out. I'm definitely going to give the 30-day trial of Telenav a shot though.
I'd personally prefer a GPS app that had a one-time fee, however, even if it didn't have every fancy feature that Telenav and others might. Why pay $100+ a year when I could just get a stand-alone GPS for the same price, or less, and not pay monthly fees?
-John
Same old crap. None of them will be getting one thin dime from me until there is no longer the subscription nonsense and the data is stored on my card.
I think that it was the RIM POS phones that lacked expandable storage that led to these stupid subscription GPS services.
I love how everyone wants everything for free
I tried it, was ok but you cant select addresses from your contacts as a destination so, uninstall for me.
And the monthly pricing is rather lame as well. I already pay $30 a month for the data service just to even be able to access the gps maps, then have to pay what they want on top of it. Yeah, you might as well just get a stand alone navigator, would be cheaper anyway.
The maps app has just enough for what i need right now.
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I love how everyone wants everything for free
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You didn't read carefully......we don't want it free. We're willing to pay. We're *not* willing to pay on a subscription basis.
Two things that the user market is yearning for in a GPS app with realtime nav:
1. One time fee that's less than the cost of a standalone GPS unit
2. Standalone maps that aren't dependent on having a network connection
My wife got so frustrated on a trip this week with the lack of proper navigation apps for the G1 that rather than paying the subscription fee for Telenav she went and bought a Garmin Nuvi for $100 that's widescreen and speaks the street names.
Personally I'm finding it more and more likely I'm going to jump over to a Garmin M60 NuviPhone when they launch soon as I'm equally frustrated with the navigation functions on the G1.
The only thing holding me back is the hope that somehow I'll be happy enough with AndNav (which I have donated to!).....they finally ordered (and received!) most of the server hardware they needed to support a dedicated US server for routing. I'll give it an honest shot and see how that goes.
Im not trying to come off as a know-it-all.
Don't you have to buy the maps for stand-alone GPS units?
It depends, I believe I had to pay for my Garmin updates, but not not when I had my TomTom. Although I could be mistaken (short memory).
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It depends, I believe I had to pay for my Garmin updates, but not not when I had my TomTom. Although I could be mistaken (short memory).
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TomTom is the same way. I think maps are $40/per update which means you can update twice a year for the price of Telenav and still have change leftover. That is if you don't need trafic (which I think there's a free app for that on G1) or millions of poi (and tomtom does have some poi, just not too many)
I just saw that MicroCenter has refurbed TomTom One for $79. I'm so frustrated with G1 situation that I might jump on that deal.
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Same old crap. None of them will be getting one thin dime from me until there is no longer the subscription nonsense and the data is stored on my card.
I think that it was the RIM POS phones that lacked expandable storage that led to these stupid subscription GPS services.
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Get your wallet out Copilot Live 8 is here! Maps are saved to the SD card.. no data usage if you don't want it to.
If you ask me, $250 for four years is not a bad price. For everything that TeleNav does (gas, traffic, weather, etc etc) you'd be dropping around that (sometimes more) on a device that does all it does. And usually a GPS unit isn't going to last for the average consumer four years. Either they will break it somehow or the new and improved will come out, they will want it and they will drop another $200+ on it.
Price is completely justified for the features it has. If you want a simple turn-by-turn GPS with no bells and whistles, then no, it isn't for you.
The only thing I can't understand is why we can't use the google maps, it has the information and has real-time location and shows our location on route. Even it were just as simple as turn by turn it should be able to be done I would think. BUT, what do I know.
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The only thing I can't understand is why we can't use the google maps, it has the information and has real-time location and shows our location on route. Even it were just as simple as turn by turn it should be able to be done I would think. BUT, what do I know.
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It has to do with map licensing.
It definitely *could be done*, it is just against the terms of use.
You see, google doesn't produce the maps, somebody else does, and this somebody else doesn't want turn-by-turn navigation being given away for free since they charge a premium for their turn-by-turn customers (i.e. tomtom or whatever).
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Thats not it at all, the subscription model usually leads to lazy design which leads to you being screwed when you drive out of the data plans range, no data link? NO GPS! Sick of that crap, why the hell call it a GPS if its really a local network capable navigation device.
Get CoPilot, least it works all the time.
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Thats not it at all, the subscription model usually leads to lazy design which leads to you being screwed when you drive out of the data plans range, no data link? NO GPS! Sick of that crap, why the hell call it a GPS if its really a local network capable navigation device.
Get CoPilot, least it works all the time.
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Do you know for sure if this is what happens with TeleNav? How do you know that it won't continue to work (the map at least) if you lose data? It may just use the data for the traffic/weather/etc info.
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Do you know for sure if this is what happens with TeleNav? How do you know that it won't continue to work (the map at least) if you lose data? It may just use the data for the traffic/weather/etc info.
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It definitely doesn't keep working. If you lose network, you lose nav. Think of it like this; if it doesn't have the data, how can it generate a route from the data? The ONLY way that a nav program can generate a route without network is if the data is stored locally, and this takes up a lot of space; copilot for north america takes up 1 GB on the sdcard. Telenav installs fully to internal memory and is called telenav for a reason... TELE = remote + NAV = navigation, i.e. it runs off their servers and not your phone.
How come andnav2 doesnt get much attention?
I think its great.
Oops. Double postings.
I recently reacquired my g1 (it was on loan to my mother, who got a new mytouch 4g for christmas, since I bought my n1 in january.)
I just updated it to cyan 6.1, it won't have a data plan, but what should I do with it?
remote for my ubuntu desktop?
connect it to a weather balloon and try to get pictures from low orbit?
I need ideas, y'all got any?
Im in the same position here not even sure if its worth selling.
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Same here. Keeping it as a back-up in case my G2 fails, but I might use it to pick up some JTAG skills.
You could always sell it to me cheap, I need a second g1 for devving on as mine is no bloody use as a phone cause I'm always flashing something or other
unfortunately it's not for sale, plus the shipping across the atlantic would probably cost as much as you'd be willing to pay for it.
Plus I want to do something fun with it, since it is my first smartphone...
I'm considering using it for a test bed of what can and can't be done, with out a data plan, with google voice/skype, and so forth...
I'm keeping mine forever it will be like an antique the grand Dady of all android phones ;-)
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using it as a ps3 hacking device or just as huge memory stick
Travel phone for wifi calling and gps related stuff.
use it as an mp3 player, an ipod touch alternative
ull have froyo, games, music, videos, wifi etc..just no calls
well i successfully got it set up for google voice calls over wifi with out a sim card, which is pretty sweet.
Keep the ideas coming, I like the ideas.
Use it as a paperwieght , well... nevermind, thats what the iPhone is for...
RemoteControl for XBMC
I too have an old G-1 that I am no longer using. I would like to give it to one of my kids to play movies on as well as games and music. Do I have to root it to get around the lack of a sim card to make it functional? Any help here would be appreciated!! I have rooted and flashed Roms on Samsung Vibrant but have limited experience. Thanks in advance for any help!
I have 2 g1 but one have with signals and slide so I use it for testing new roms themes and all experiments
I am also tring to costomize my own rom so get useful there
U can also do same
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Gave up on this phone and now turned it into a Voip phone. Now just gotta figure out how to keep wifi running.
As a follow up I've set my old g1 up with sipdroid and google voice for free wifi calling and texts.
I also set it up with a combo of ip cam view and webkey so that it can be used as a webcam over a wifi area.
It's a couple of cool things honestly, really love the proof of concept feeling about them, even if I don't use them.
I'm willing to try out other ideas. =P
I love you guys getting upgrades. I have bought 3 G1's in the past few months $45-80 was the range of the 3 I bought. I am running GingerYoshi on them all Sparks 1.6.4 before that. can use on wifi with skype and no sim card. Post em on your local Craigslist. For broke people like myself
unfortunately I can't sell it. It's a museum piece for me
Load GingerYoshi1.0rc3 and voip its running smooth
Have a bunch of different nandroid backups saved.
One with an iPhone layout, another with the Windows 7.
Then when one of your friends gets a new phone, rub it in their face that yours can do everything there's can times 3.
Start the decline of companies that IGo, Garmin, TomTom? Or fight in the field gets stronger? Especially since it seems that will be free... Good for us users, we will have to won ... or not?
What do you think?
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Well thing is the ultimate goal of a superphone would be to replace everything needed in your day right? So this is just another stepping stone cause allot of people use GPS now so it's a need and the smartphone/superphone steps in.
Now my guess if Google makes this service free then the GPS companies will take a major hit, if they do charge on the other hand I think they still have a chance because people are tempted to not mind paying for hardware but software lots of people dislike it (I'm talking average consumer) because you have nothing physical in the end, plus people already have Google maps for free so if Google randomly start to charge for this add-on I think many people will be disappointed (including me) because when you print the navigation instructions there free right so why should it be different to have them on your smartphone.