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Sorry if this question has been asked before. I did a search but could not find anything so it may be a matter of how I worded my search. I am currently running Cyanogen 4.2.5. I upgraded to CM4.2.7, but decided to go back to CM4.2.5 so that I could continue to use a theme that I really liked. So my question is, is it bad to go backwards with roms? I have found a theme that I really want to try, but it was created for a much older Cyanogen rom. It was actually created for CM4.0.4. Is this considered a bad thing with the G1? Mods feel free to move this thread if the Q&A section is the wrong place.
My specs
G1/Dream
CM4.2.5
NabzHero theme
Haykuro's Danger SPL
DRC83 build
Moving backwards as far as ROM's go isn't harmful if that's what you mean by "is it bad".
If the theme hasn't been updated since 4.0.4 it will not be compatible. The build has changed from the ground up since then.
Thanks for the quick reply. Let me make sure I understand you correctly. If the theme I found was made for Cyanogen 4.0.4 and I flash the Cyanogen 4.0.4 Rom it still wont work because the build is different? By build do you mean the fact that I'm on DRC83 is the reason it wont work?
Thanks
Contact the maker of the theme and ask them to remake it as a Metamorph theme. Then it should be good forever.
I liked NabzHero too, but updates were kinda non existent. Enoch is similar, updates with in hours of the new CM version and is available via the CM updater.
Wish Enoch would change the tab for the drawer though...I don't like the way it looks.
Off to pm Enoch...
Simple answer: No, it's not harmful, bad, or wrong to go back and use an older version of a ROM. But, if you're using an old ROM, don't be surprised if something you find here that says it works on Cyanogen won't work--it may be intended only for the latest version.
The build is fundamentally different since 4.0.4, but you can still go back and use it. But, you may have to do a wipe from recovery before you flash it. Just try flashing 4.0.4 over 4.2.7.1, and if you get errors, reboot recovery, do a full wipe, and flash 4.0.4 again.
I bought a slightly used Nexus One, the guy said it's rooted, well I am new to Android, just trashed my iPhone.
Anyways my OS seems slow at times, I have Froyo on it FRF91, but I think that it's a rather instable custom ROM how do I know if it's the original Google ROM?
I rather have the original Google ROM also because I like my phone to be able to get OTA updates.
If this is a Custom ROM, how do I get the OEM ROM back on my Nexus One?
Thank you all
If you go to About Phone in the settings menu it will normally have an abnormal name in the Kernel Version. What does yours say?
Blueman101 said:
If you go to About Phone in the settings menu it will normally have an abnormal name in the Kernel Version. What does yours say?
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Even better, download and install any one of many screenshot apps. Take a screenshot of your About screen, and post it here?!
DroCap2 is my fave.
Tried drocap2 it didn't safe the screenshots where it said it did my kernel is:
[email protected] #1
You have an old version of Enomther's TheOfficial ROM (which is an excellent ROM, I happen to use it).
Flash its latest version (thread in Development section), and if the launcher (desktop) speed is what's bothering you - install LauncherPro. This ROM is probably one of the most stable custom ROMs out there, if not the most stable of them.
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You have an old version of Enomther's TheOfficial ROM (which is an excellent ROM, I happen to use it).
Flash its latest version (thread in Development section), and if the launcher (desktop) speed is what's bothering you - install LauncherPro. This ROM is probably one of the most stable custom ROMs out there, if not the most stable of them.
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I love Enomther's roms and would highly recommend you to upgrade to the newest version.
Glad to hear it's a good ROM it's not often but sometimes when closing an app it takes about 30 seconds till i can do anything else.
How do I upgrade to the newest ROM? I went to the webiste of Enomther and it says something about Radio update also I like the stock theme will that stay on my phone?
1) It's definitely not a ROM problem. When installing his new ROM, wipe EVERYTHING - data and cache, and install apps one by one until you find the offender.
2) Flash his non-themed version and you'll get a stock look.
3) Check your baseband version in the same place you've checked kernel. If it says *U_4.06* or *U_5.08* then you don't need to flash the radio, if not - go to Nexus Wiki / Radios and look there.
Thanks a lot I will try it today.
Just did the update also installed the HTC 720p camera update.
Now it says:
Baseband version: 5.08.00.04
Kernel Version: [email protected] #1
Build number: FRF91
is that the right thing?
Thank you so much for all the hints.
Yes, you have the latest. See if the newer radio works well for you, and if it doesn't - try flashing the 4.06 version.
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"
teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.
Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.
Hello everyone,
I'm new on this board, because I just got my Milestone today.
I had a HTC Kaiser with Android Froyo on it..
So, I don't have any idea about the upgrading process under a Milestone, and I have some questions :
1. Could I go back to the original Motorola's factory ROM ?
2. Is there an original Motorola's Froyo 2.2 upgrade? (my phone said it's already up to date)
3. I don't want to lose any feature.. Is there a good Froyo build without issues?
4. Is the upgrade a bigger risk than flashing a HTC ?
Thanks a lot for your answers, and I'm happy to join this Milestone community, what seems to be active!
1) It's a sticky on the top of this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696845
2) Yes and no. Whilst it hasn't officially been released, Team G.O.T managed to and release a BETA version of the 2.2.1 kernal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811221
3) V1 had battery issues where a reset was in-order to stop battery drain. V2 is pretty new and some users have reported reboots.
4) No, if anything, less.
Also, wrong forum;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=668
zebra363 said:
Hello everyone,
I'm new on this board, because I just got my Milestone today.
I had a HTC Kaiser with Android Froyo on it..
So, I don't have any idea about the upgrading process under a Milestone, and I have some questions :
1. Could I go back to the original Motorola's factory ROM ?
2. Is there an original Motorola's Froyo 2.2 upgrade? (my phone said it's already up to date)
3. I don't want to lose any feature.. Is there a good Froyo build without issues?
4. Is the upgrade a bigger risk than flashing a HTC ?
Thanks a lot for your answers, and I'm happy to join this Milestone community, what seems to be active!
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Hi zebra363 you're welcome!
1. Yes, just make a Nandroid Backup using OpenRecovery 1.46 and save this on your PC. (It's safe)
2. For now, we haven't a Froyo Rom Shipped, yet. This will be relased on Q1 of 2011. Your phone is up to date to Android 2.1 (Eclair because it is a Motorola official rom).
In my case, i suggest you TheFroyoMod v2.2.0 or Cyanogen Port, but you have to test to know what rom you is better for you.
3. You will be very impressed with Froyo builds here. The dev's are very very good.
4. Every upgrade is a risk, but just follow the process and everything will be ok
I was a Kaiser user too (good times) but i was using Warbyte's rom ( Android 1.6, because it was more stable than froyo, maybe HW question)
Hope this help you guy!
Thanks for everything, guys!!
I just bought my Milestone on eBay from USA, my build is SHOLS_U2_02.31.0,
but there are 12 versions with the same name! How could I know which version is exactly mine?
Do I have to change the kernel (from 2.6.29 to 2.6.32) in order to upgrade to Froyo, or is it included in the .sbf package?
MarceloTorres, do you have some issues with TheFroyoMod or Cyanogen, in comparison with Motorola's Eclair build?
And thanks, again!
zebra363 said:
Thanks for everything, guys!!
I just bought my Milestone on eBay from USA, my build is SHOLS_U2_02.31.0,
but there are 12 versions with the same name! How could I know which version is exactly mine?
Do I have to change the kernel (from 2.6.29 to 2.6.32) in order to upgrade to Froyo, or is it included in the .sbf package?
MarceloTorres, do you have some issues with TheFroyoMod or Cyanogen, in comparison with Motorola's Eclair build?
And thanks, again!
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You are using the 2.31 SBF which is a stock Eclair ROM. Some regions have SLIGHLY newer SBFs and have a few more bug fixes than 2.31. But nothing major at all.
2- An SBF includes EVERYTHING unless it was messed with. This means kernel, programs, recovery, baseband software (controls radios, etc)
An example of a "modified" SBF would be somebody that merges a different recovery with different drivers, recoveries, etc. The GOT SBF does this. It is a Beta Motorola build that was merged with a vulnerable recovery.
3- You usually don't need to mess with kernel files when flashing a ROM. The room dev or "cooker" (loose definitions, depends on the skill and mods made) takes care of this. This is ESPECIALLY true on our phone because you CANNOT mix and match kernels and ROMs. Motorola locks the bootloader to the kernel. So it is NOT possible to write a customer kernel and/or use different versions than the ones provided by MOT. This is why the GOT leak was so important. We obtained a new kernel and other "Motorola" files. The devs then went to work porting existing projects (Cyanogen, etc) to the Milestones. This could only be done previously by various hacks and sidesteps that lead to many issues.
4- By now, the CYANOGEN version is still a beta, but VERY stable. I don't have more issues than when I had eclair.
Remaining major bugs (ONLY FOR SOME, I don't experience ANY of this and have been on Cyanogen for my work phone for 3 months).
a) Battery drain/charge -> I get a full day battery (8-10 hours) with major usage. But some people still complain of drain, discharges, etc.
b) Wifi using WPA2/TKIP on some routers (works fine for me, Juniper router)
c) Battery charge (not full). There is a "trick for this (see cyanogen thread) but it does nothing for me...battery charges to full each time.
Like I said, your mileage may vary. But between overclocking and undervolting and having froyo, I am happier with CM6 than stock.
Some people stick with stock (I would too if my phone drained in 4 hours).
The only thing you need to worry about are (high level instructions, please see details in CM6 thread initial post).
1) Installing OpenRecovery (I recommend the Androidiani)
2) installing correct baseband (the CM6 ROM defaults to Europe). This can be done from an Androidiani sub menu
3) Installing CM6
4) Install Google Apps (to re-obtain market, gmail, etc)
If you don't like it. Either restore a Nandroid backup or re-flash the correct SBF for your region/provider using RSD lite.
Caz666, thanks A LOT for your awesome answer! You really took a big time to write me a definitely perfect answer So, I will say a BIG THANKS!
For a first try, I used the G.O.T. Open-Recovery, because I found it in this tutorial that I followed : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
And I flashed the G.O.T Android 2.2.1, in its central-europe version..
It works well, but it seems to be slower, and there's only 65 Mb free RAM
I will try to flash CyanogenMod, and I hope to get more free RAM..
The App2SD feature is essential for me, because I like to install a lot of applications to test them all..
Found my old SCH-I800 (aka P1C), had an old version of CM on it.
Searched around for some newer rom's, but couldnt find any mentioning support for the keyboard!
Decided to Odin/Heimdall back to Stock, found I had the old v2.2, its looping on the VerizonWireless screen...
Bleh!
Anyone happen to have an odin/heimdall useable version of totally stock v2.3.5 (IIRC last version for it)? My Google-Fu has failed me and I can find plunty of ROOTED versions, but not so much for unrooted
TYVM
EDIT: wow... I had typed a subject in the title area... it did not stay...
Edited Thread title for better visibility.
Still stands, I have tried about 13 downloads now, all have been modified in some shape or form and cannot get the last of the OTA's and there is not a final OTA modified release...
anyone? SGH-I800... don't care which version of android now, 2.2 or 2.3, but cant be pre-rooted, needs totally stock so can accept that last OTA before I pass it on!