720p on Motorola Droid? - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

So I see all those lucky nexus 1 owners have a 720p video hack on their hands. Does anyone know if this is at all possible with a Motorola Droid? I know limitations are placed on devices and that a loophole was exploited on the nexus 1.....but has anyone looked into this on the MOTO Droid? That would be awesome if it was at all possible, but I won't hold my breath on this one. Wishful thinking though.
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Don't know the cameras limitations. I'd settle for decent low-light response tho. Resolution is good enough for me.

techjunkie24 said:
So I see all those lucky nexus 1 owners have a 720p video hack on their hands. Does anyone know if this is at all possible with a Motorola Droid? I know limitations are placed on devices and that a loophole was exploited on the nexus 1.....but has anyone looked into this on the MOTO Droid? That would be awesome if it was at all possible, but I won't hold my breath on this one. Wishful thinking though.
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Ditto. I'd be interested.

That Will be great but I dont think sensor is capable of 720p.codec support is there as shown by newly released motorola mile stone xt.

Why wouldnt HTC allow the nexus to record in 720p in the first place if it was possible? There must have been something wrong with allowing the 720p and there may be a negative effect attributed to it.

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Why wouldnt HTC allow the nexus to record in 720p in the first place if it was possible? There must have been something wrong with allowing the 720p and there may be a negative effect attributed to it.
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They noticed that market sales wouldn't be increased with it, people would already buy the N1, no matter HD or not. So I think they decided to disable the function so they could make some fancy ads emphasizing this new feature on a newer device.

Htc Don't have it at 720p because the higher the res the lower the fps (frames per seconds) and at 720p the nexus is only 20fps

i asked in the nexus thread the hack developer and he told me that its possible on droid / milestone hardware wise. but he dont have a droid for testing thats the problem.

Already been done!
sholes dot id dot au / how-to /#vid
I had this working on my milestone before 2.1 but I am sure the same process applies.
essentially you are chaging your build.prop to allow for 720x480 res.
Seemed to work when I tried it. But really, the standard res is good enough for me.
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@sabaramo, How did you get 720p working on your milestone? Is there a guide or step by step process available anywhere?
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He didnt. The droid supports that resolution natively. 720p is 1280x720.

720p is 1280x720...not 720x480, that is 480p. the 1st number is the pixel width, the 2nd is the pixel height of the frame. I would assume a more friendly 16x9 resolution in the 960x540 range would be a good compromise...but if the sensor can handle a full 1280x720, more power to it.....
but why not 854x480? the pixel size of the actual screen? I'm running some ripped DVDs at that aspect and they look brilliant...

see, 720p IS 1280x720....i don't lie, lol.
sorry didn't see your post before i sent this....

JoeProcopio said:
720p is 1280x720...not 720x480, that is 480p. the 1st number is the pixel width, the 2nd is the pixel height of the frame. I would assume a more friendly 16x9 resolution in the 960x540 range would be a good compromise...but if the sensor can handle a full 1280x720, more power to it.....
but why not 854x480? the pixel size of the actual screen? I'm running some ripped DVDs at that aspect and they look brilliant...
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You have full resolution on your Droid/Milestone?
How did you go about doing it? I would love to be able to get mine like that.
I'm totally new to Android Modding and Deving. From what I've read though, I wanna Root my Droid, and get that ROM with the Sense UI that's on the first page of this forum. And now I want full resolution on it, too

I would like to get this functionality as well, will the OTA update for froyo mess the bootloader up so that rooting is not possible on a phone that is not rooted?

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I would like to get this functionality as well, will the OTA update for froyo mess the bootloader up so that rooting is not possible on a phone that is not rooted?
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Dunno, but there are several releases of both FRG01B and FRG22 out there with root. Why wait for OTA?

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Is 720p video possible?

With a bunch of new phones with 5 megapixel cameras coming out, that can also take 720p video. I was wondering if it would be possible for our hero to take 720p video?
Please do tell what other phones are coming out with 720p video recording other then the nexus? which does keep in mind have a snapdragon processor which is definitely better then ours!
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which does keep in mind have a snapdragon processor which is definitely better then ours!
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Not by much though.
You know, I honestly don't know if ours could or not. I mean they both are 5MP. The only thing I can think of would be a driver that is needed to support 720p.
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With a bunch of new phones with 5 megapixel cameras coming out, that can also take 720p video. I was wondering if it would be possible for our hero to take 720p video?
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those cameras that can reach 720p are qdsp6 cameras. ours are qdsp5. The highest i think we can get would probably be 480p, which i almost have working on my aosp rom. just need to do some more kernel hacking to actually get it to record properly (turns into a green jumbled mess when replaying it)
darchstar said:
those cameras that can reach 720p are qdsp6 cameras. ours are qdsp5. The highest i think we can get would probably be 480p, which i almost have working on my aosp rom. just need to do some more kernel hacking to actually get it to record properly (turns into a green jumbled mess when replaying it)
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I'm excited to hear about this, darchdroid is awesome.
Please do tell what other phones are coming out with 720p video recording other then the nexus? which does keep in mind have a snapdragon processor which is definitely better then ours!
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Iphone 4 even though it pains me to say
Samsung galaxy s
Nexus
I'm pretty sure there are a few more
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darchstar said:
those cameras that can reach 720p are qdsp6 cameras. ours are qdsp5. The highest i think we can get would probably be 480p, which i almost have working on my aosp rom. just need to do some more kernel hacking to actually get it to record properly (turns into a green jumbled mess when replaying it)
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That's what I'm talking about! Someone who puts so much in to make out phones truely rock! Just wanted to give you a shout out darch.
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Iphone 4 even though it pains me to say
Samsung galaxy s
Nexus
I'm pretty sure there are a few more
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EVO!!! I cant beleive you missed the biggest phone of this time. LOL
*Just playing with ya*
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Iphone 4 even though it pains me to say
Samsung galaxy s
Nexus
I'm pretty sure there are a few more
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dude, even the verizon droid and the droid incredible have the capabilities of going as high as 720p. thats is a paraphrase of what the dev who got 720p working on nexus one said.
pretty much every android phone to come out after ours has that capability
So is this something that is coming up?
darchstar said:
dude, even the verizon droid and the droid incredible have the capabilities of going as high as 720p. thats is a paraphrase of what the dev who got 720p working on nexus one said.
pretty much every android phone to come out after ours has that capability
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dammit haha. We missed it But anyway, I've been thinking, and now that you're hacking the hell out of the Hero and giving it all new features, there is really no reason to upgrade now when my contract is up. I'm just going to stick with my Hero until it breaks.

720p recording

Hi,
i read with Froyo it is possible to record with 720p.
I tried but the highest i can choose from is "High (30 min)" which results in 720x480 which is not 1280x720
Is it true that i can record 720p with the Nexus One and Froyo.
If so, how do i?
Best
You read wrong.
It was possible to record 720p before Froyo came, with CM5.0.8.
Froyo broke the codec support, and charansingh_online is rebuilding it again. It'll probably take some time.
cm = cyagen mod?
means you have to root your phone (loose your warranty) to have 720p?
Yes and yes.
Actually it's yes and no, since you don't have to unlock the bootloader to be able to run custom roms now.
Its kinda over rated bro. It looks halfway decent but a little choppy.
Its like all N1 recordings, if you move to much the quality sucks.
But i think its okay, rated by videos on youtube.
Actually it's yes and no, since you don't have to unlock the bootloader to be able to run custom roms now.
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Can you provide a link to a tutorial?
DarsVaeda said:
Its like all N1 recordings, if you move to much the quality sucks.
But i think its okay, rated by videos on youtube.
Can you provide a link to a tutorial?
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Go to the Nexus One Developer's Forum, it's one of the stickies.
I think, hope, want to believe that 720P will be fixed for CM6-Final. I know @cyanogen and @charansingh have been working on it lately.

Youtube HD playback

I am a new android/captivate buyer. Try as I might (googled for a few hours) I could not find anything on the Captivate and it's Hd playback. My question is:
Is there a way I can play Youtube HD on my Captivate via stream? (and NO I don't mean High Quality I mean straight up HD *720p*.).
I'm just mad the iphone 4 can and I can't find a way to do it on my captivate.
Thanks
Jose
I'm not sure if there is a way to do it or not but it may be worth pointing out that the captivate screen doesn't have the resolution to display 720p. I have heard that the iPhone 4 packs a very large number of pixels so 720p probably makes sense on that phone. I have also heard that the pixels are so small that they may not be entirely decernible to the human eye.
I would be interested in knowing if you do find a way to view 720p on the captivate. I'm more interested in downloading than viewing though.
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Not sure about youtube HD but I have played 720P files on my Captivate with no problem whatsoever and it looks fantastic. The Captivate may not have a
720P resolution but it will still look better than 480P.
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Not sure about youtube HD but I have played 720P files on my Captivate with no problem whatsoever and it looks fantastic. The Captivate may not have a
720P resolution but it will still look better than 480P.
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I totally agree. I watch podcasts (pardon the term) in 720p on the captivate and they are breathtaking. When I said 720p didn't make sense I was thinking more from the angle of the developer. As a user I would love to have the full selection of resolutions to choose from
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[Q] Milestone: limited color display abilities?

Lately I've noticed that my Milestone has some problems with displaying colors.
I have attached the screenshot of my home, where you can see terrible transitions between similar hues.
lso, there is wallpaper file attached, which seems to be okay to me.
Is it common with those screens or it's just my Milestone?
my milestone does the same :/ could it be that it does not have 16 million colors?
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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i find it weird that no reviews mentions this or even the specifications sheet, :/ the desire has an 24 bit display?
That's what I thought, pretty much.
Still, it being not mentioned is strange, as it seems to be fairly serious issue. Unless it's possible to convert images with no quality loss visible on the screen.
The proper term is dither, in cyanogen you can enable surface dithering in cyanogen mod settings > performance which should improve image quality at the cost of performance. Not sure about other roms.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
So what gallery could I use to put wallpapers on?
Flikie does pretty much the same, as it uses Froyo gallery.
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
applebook said:
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
jackeh070 said:
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
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i searched for it and it says it only works in 1.x not in 2.x but it works... weird
Chad_Petree said:
if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
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Yeah, I agree. Apparently, Samsung's Galaxy S Gallery is a bit better. Not truly 24-bit, but the Galaxy S adds improved dithering. The Galaxy S, with all of the hype about SAMOLED, is not even a real 24-bit display You Milestone/Droid/Droid 2 folks have the best Android screen, IMO.
Chad_Petree said:
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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True.
Google is not eager to tell you the answer if you don't exactly know what you are looking for. And for non-technical people it may be hard to guess.
Chad_Petree said:
im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
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i dont know what the droid screen was like but i got a milestone 2(droid 2) yesterday and the screen looks awful on it, nothing but dull colours, i just made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10401973#post10401973

[Q] Screen Resolution

when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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There are actually very few 4.3"phones with 720p displays. So for this size screen it's actually a fairly typical resolution.
Change it by getting a different phone.
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
Senseless, but also pointless
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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Sincerely, having owned the galaxy nexus and galaxy s3 (much too large for my use), I do not see big differences in display quality ... maybe it's my eyes ... :laugh:
It really has the ideal size this device, as the Lumia 800, but with a 4.3 "screen ... :good:
Remember, this is a mid-range device as well. Mid range devices at this price point rarely have higher res screens. If ever.
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Remember, this is a mid-range device as well
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only in price!
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
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How is my answer senseless? Or do you not speak English? I directly answered your question.
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Robbilie said:
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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Your logic is strange. If its running through HDMI why would the phones screen matter?
It would be running at the TVs resolution.
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doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
Because of Google's takeover, Motorola was made to strip out all of its own software - and I'm told this is also the reason there's no HDMI/MHL socket. We're quite lucky that there's a memory card slot, although you can't copy apps (and app data) on to a memory card - so for some people that have loads of apps or use Spotify with offline music, it will be like the memory card doesn't exist.
I am not that upset, as I didn't really care for any of the Motorola apps/bloatware and quite like the fact that, bar the Motorola launcher, it's virtually like having a Motorola Nexus.
I actually don't connect my phones to a TV that often anyway. I've got tablets that can do that if I want (and I rarely do, despite always thinking I might). For watching photos and video on my (Smart) TV I use Wi-Fi, which is more convenient - and works just fine with the Razr i.
As for the screen resolution; having come from a Sony Xperia S with a 4.3-inch HD display (342PPI?), I was expecting to be unable to live with the screen on the Razr i - but that hasn't happened either. I am not sure what the PPI is now, but it's still high enough that I can't really make out the pixels - and even the PenTile matrix isn't an issue unless I get really close up. One exception is when you have thin(ish) text in colours like red, which can be a bit hard to read.
Anyway, 960x540 isn't a terrible resolution at all. 1280x720 would be nice, but I've come to learn that it isn't essential and I really am not sure why the industry is going to be rushing to do 1920x1080 next year on screens of only 5-inches or so. That will be a stupid pixels-per-inch density and you're now going beyond what the eye can make out anyway. First megapixels, then MHz and cores, and now PPI/DPI. Madness!
Razr i is 256DPI. It's not bad at all.
Not so far a GS3 which as 305DPI.. but cost lot much money
And qHD as the avantage to be Quarter the size of HD resolution, It fits great for diplaying HD content.
Robbilie said:
doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
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Well the galaxy s3 when connected switches to 1080p resolution. To fit the t.v.
Doesn't matter anyway since it has no HDMI.
And when Google took over Motorola they made someone else CEO but its still independent of Google a separate company.
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