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Hero Rom, your feedback - Please

Hey guys,
I'm new to rooting and xda, I'm thinking about getting a Hero rom on my g1 but I have read mixed reviews about lag etc..
My question to you is, are you running a Hero Rom? How does it perform? Which Rom would you recommend?
Thanks, I love you guys.

APEX.7 said:
Hey guys,
I'm new to rooting and xda, I'm thinking about getting a Hero rom on my g1 but I have read mixed reviews about lag etc..
My question to you is, are you running a Hero Rom? How does it perform? Which Rom would you recommend?
Thanks, I love you guys.
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I'm interested in this question too! Would love to hear some feedback.

APEX.7 said:
Hey guys,
I'm new to rooting and xda, I'm thinking about getting a Hero rom on my g1 but I have read mixed reviews about lag etc..
My question to you is, are you running a Hero Rom? How does it perform? Which Rom would you recommend?
Thanks, I love you guys.
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hero roms when compared to cupcake roms do tend to lag at time. esp when the phone has been runign for hours or days without restart.
in my opinion i think drizzy 2.2r2 is the best hero rom for speed and is pretty stable. i am waiting for drizzy to finish his 5 or 6 rom project and he told me that dopod will be the best hero rom to date.
some hero roms tend to have missing sms...esp when receiving.. i recommend again drizzy 2.2r2 for speed but jacxhero 1.4 or 1.2 is the best as far as stability goes in my opinion. stability meaning lack of bugs. esp in the market and sms issues. but jac hero roms tend to run slower than drizzy.

I'm currently running JacxHeroskiv 1.4 (gotta love the name ) and I find it's fairly useable if you use a 64mb linux-swap partition on a Class 6 card. I only populate one screen, this is just a prefrence, if you use more than one the homescreen is still useable, but sometimes you will swipe and it wont change screen for a few seconds. Battery life is poor. It must be about 3/4 of what I get on Cyanogen Mod, but I can live with that. One of the problems with Hero ROMs is that they are made for a phone without a keyboard. So there are lots of apps that don't rotate and there are issues with the virtual keyboard and hardware keyboard which are ver annoying. If you can live without bluetooth and LEDs (they are working on LEDs) and a slightly slower phone it's worth a try. Just make a nandroid backup before hand.
My advise for the moment is wait from Drizzy Drake's "Dopod" ROM. It's based off and upcoming update for the Hero itself, to make the phone more smooth and add a couple of extra features. We don't really know when it's going to be out but I'm guessing it will be here in a couple of weeks.

AdrianK said:
..... My advise for the moment is wait from Drizzy Drake's "Dopod" ROM. It's based off and upcoming update for the Hero itself, to make the phone more smooth and add a couple of extra features. We don't really know when it's going to be out but I'm guessing it will be here in a couple of weeks.
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great, thank you very much for your advice. i think il stick with my current cyanogen rom until this gets released then.. plus i need to read up on all this sd card stuff, i dont understand any of it. lol thanks again

APEX.7 said:
great, thank you very much for your advice. i think il stick with my current cyanogen rom until this gets released then.. plus i need to read up on all this sd card stuff, i dont understand any of it. lol thanks again
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AdrianK said:
My advise for the moment is wait from Drizzy Drake's "Dopod" ROM. It's based off and upcoming update for the Hero itself, to make the phone more smooth and add a couple of extra features. We don't really know when it's going to be out but I'm guessing it will be here in a couple of weeks.
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drizzy said dopod will be out this weekend

JJbdoggg said:
drizzy said dopod will be out this weekend
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great news. thank you sir

JJbdoggg said:
drizzy said dopod will be out this weekend
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According to his latest Tweet it will be released today, he is out running around paying bills, you know the normal stuff people do that have life's, unlike most of us
It's a sad day in my life when I wake up and the first thing I do is check xda for ROM updates! It's Saturday for gods's sake!! I need to get out!
Anyway
I'm running Jac's Hero 1.4 and love it! I'm not one that cares for colors (theme's)
I get NO lag or htc or loading in 4 days since switching to 96mb Linux-swap and swappiness at 60. Love them settings!

SUggest you get it if you want bling and don't care about bluetooth not working

I got back and fourth between Hero and Cyan builds. Check my signature for build types.
My opinion on Hero is this...
It's good to try out and play around with but I wouldn't use it as a primary rom for your phone. In other words... it's good to flash if your bored and with time to kill. I've never had it on my phone for more then a day or two. If you want fast and stable then go for the 4.0.1 Stable Cyanogen Rom (or the updated version depending on when you reference this and since he's updating all the time for improvements) and you won't regret it. Since your considering Hero, I'm assuming that you've already partitioned your sdcard with the ext format. This is a requirement for Hero roms but it optional but recommended for Cyanogen roms (for apps to sd purposes). If you want to bounce back and forth between roms you can use the Switchrom Script with the Cyanogen 1.4 Recovery and it's painless to do. Even without a computer. Give it a shot... the worse that can happen assuming you get past the Danger SPL part is that you won't like one and can switch back.

Lakers3408 said:
According to his latest Tweet it will be released today, he is out running around paying bills, you know the normal stuff people do that have life's, unlike most of us
It's a sad day in my life when I wake up and the first thing I do is check xda for ROM updates! It's Saturday for gods's sake!! I need to get out!
Anyway
I'm running Jac's Hero 1.4 and love it! I'm not one that cares for colors (theme's)
I get NO lag or htc or loading in 4 days since switching to 96mb Linux-swap and swappiness at 60. Love them settings!
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Ahhh i know the feeling of waking up in the morning with the hope of a brand spanking new rom out there... i do it practically everyday... haha
as for my hero preferences, I'm running JACxHeroski 1.4 as well, only with my swap at 32 and it's running perfectly. been running it for a while and only gotten one or two loading screens.
ALSO, if you check out Teh Dust's Rosie color changer, you can change the entire system colors. it's pretty awesome. i've got a purple rosie and purple framework and everything.

That about says it above. Hero has some cool features I like like flash 9 and some other cool UI stuff. Like it was suggested above and on jac's post use as few screens as possible and I stay away from the weather widget, or I choose one and it usually does okay. For me after the newness wore off I wanted my speed back! Anywho...Go for it!

It's not worth it, not made for g1 no matter what they do to it. Lags no matter what you do. Get Cyanogen's or jacxrom's build.

Lakers3408 said:
According to his latest Tweet it will be released today, he is out running around paying bills, you know the normal stuff people do that have life's, unlike most of us
It's a sad day in my life when I wake up and the first thing I do is check xda for ROM updates! It's Saturday for gods's sake!! I need to get out!
Anyway
I'm running Jac's Hero 1.4 and love it! I'm not one that cares for colors (theme's)
I get NO lag or htc or loading in 4 days since switching to 96mb Linux-swap and swappiness at 60. Love them settings!
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I know...these updates and all this is so consuming. Next thing you know you have twitter alerts waking you up at night to let you know that something new is out. lol

Ryanmo5 said:
It's not worth it, not made for g1 no matter what they do to it. Lags no matter what you do. Get Cyanogen's or jacxrom's build.
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that's a little negative... sure, it has lag occasionally, if you do it correctly. but then again, cyan's isn't perfect either. don't get me wrong. cyanogen is my go-to cupcake rom. but it still has it's bugs.
hero is something for someone who has a little bit of patience. everybody is entitled to his own opinion

Ryanmo5 said:
It's not worth it, not made for g1 no matter what they do to it. Lags no matter what you do. Get Cyanogen's or jacxrom's build.
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I agree...it even lags on the actual hero itself. With that being said it's fun to show off and experience first hand without actually buying a hero. It's cool, Just not stupid fast or super stable as of yet.
And that's what I need...stupid fast! lol

Spent 10 hours today!
I am not new to this stuff...been modding iPhones since the first one came out and so forth. I spent 10 hours today working with Hero...JackHero..I think it was. I loved it! It took some work to make it work however...alot of work. The end result was i twas not fast enough for me. I thought i could comprimise becasue I had seen the demos and such...but I am more "Go " than "Show" Unfortuatly I could not get it as fast as I liked. other than that it is AWESOME!

grandomegabosses said:
that's a little negative... sure, it has lag occasionally, if you do it correctly. but then again, cyan's isn't perfect either. don't get me wrong. cyanogen is my go-to cupcake rom. but it still has it's bugs.
hero is something for someone who has a little bit of patience. everybody is entitled to his own opinion
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I think the hero rom is the best one out there. The lag is not really a problem for me(using 92MB swap). However, the they are working on the update that will improve the speed. Nothing beats the Hero's UI!!

I just rooted my phone today after finally getting an 8gb class 6 so I only have one days experience with the hero Rom but so far I like it, the lag is there but I can deal with it for now...my browser is pretty fast and I get all things incoming so I'm happy as long as that works..eventually I'll start to mess with the partions to get it to run a little faster...I've been nodding psp's for years now so I know I could get the hang of this...

grandomegabosses said:
that's a little negative... sure, it has lag occasionally, if you do it correctly. but then again, cyan's isn't perfect either. don't get me wrong. cyanogen is my go-to cupcake rom. but it still has it's bugs.
hero is something for someone who has a little bit of patience. everybody is entitled to his own opinion
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Not negative truthful, want him to know what he's getting into before he does it. Every build has bugs that's just the nature of the beast. Patience has nothing to do with it for me personally, I use my phone for a phone above all and I need something reliable.

SLOW Hero even with class 6sd?

So Im running JACxHEROSkiv1.6r2B and I have a 4gig class 6 sd card. I have the fat32 set up, ext3, and linux swap at 32.
I had a class 4 before, but hearing everyone rant and rave how fast hero runs with a class 6 I went out and bought one. However, hero still seems to be a little laggy and slow..... at least for me. I'll get the htc screen and the loading screen.. I even reverted back to superhero v2 and that was the fastest hero for me, no lag, no loading screens nothing.
But the newer hero's seem to be slow for some reason even with a class 6. Can anyone help, I absolutly love hero, just want it to be fast like how everyone says it is.
Thanks in advance...

hang your head in shame...
the speed of hero roms will vary depending on the phone itself, the way the phone is used, the settings on the phone, the way people use their phone, how they choose to set up their linux-swap size and what they set swappiness to, in short, different people get different results with hero roms, some find them fast, some find them tremendously slow, its most likely a mind over matter type deal... so finally we reach the point of all this.... stop with the why isn't my hero blazing fast threads and how do i make hero make hero faster threads. basically you have 2 options for optimizing your hero build, set it up exactly the way the first post of the thread tells you to, or you can pm the people with amazingly fast hero roms and ask them what they are doing...
wow i was a smart ass and still managed to give a half way decent answer

I did follow ALL directions, i've flashed tons of roms and experienced different things with different builds. Kind of wierd how superhero v2 seems to run faster then the new builds. Even with the echo at 60, some threads say set it to 10, etc. Followed all directions, and still have these results. When a thread says FAST, you kind of expect it. I mean gimme a break going from checking the market to your home screen you get a loading issue, c'mon. There has to be something to alter to fix it. I know im not the only person having slow issues with hero EVEN on a CLASS 6

there was a post i just read where some one set there linux-swap to 96mb and swappiness to 100 and said it ran really fast, that was the newest jacski hero rom version b i think. you could always try that, though whether or not it will suffer future slow downs remains to be seen. I haven't tried a hero rom recently (since 3.6.8.1 was released by cyanogen damn that was a while back) because of the slow downs i would get after a day or so i don't know much other than to try what others are saying works.
though with the way drizzy's new hero v1 is shaping up to look i might have to try it when he drops it. I remember trying jac's 1.4 hero, if you think the hero roms they have now have lag... but alas now i am reminiscing

I agree, his new hero rom is supposed to be the best to date, so we'll see, I just flashed over to cyans 4.0.4 since its fast. I also read about the 96mb and 100swap, but I want to see what happens in a few days with that.

cire253 said:
So Im running JACxHEROSkiv1.6r2B and I have a 4gig class 6 sd card. I have the fat32 set up, ext3, and linux swap at 32.
I had a class 4 before, but hearing everyone rant and rave how fast hero runs with a class 6 I went out and bought one. However, hero still seems to be a little laggy and slow..... at least for me. I'll get the htc screen and the loading screen.. I even reverted back to superhero v2 and that was the fastest hero for me, no lag, no loading screens nothing.
But the newer hero's seem to be slow for some reason even with a class 6. Can anyone help, I absolutly love hero, just want it to be fast like how everyone says it is.
Thanks in advance...
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I had the same issue with my 32mb swap. I changed it to 96 and saw a HUGE increase in performance. No compcache. Just swap with 60 swappiness and I hardly ever see Loading or the HTC screen.
Here is a thread that discusses this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551643
It is among many, however almost everyone has their own opinion based on their own phone which is of course based on their own needs. The key is playing around with it and seeing what works best for you. Start with the swappiness and then try your swap partition size and see what works best for you.

Then there was a vague tweet from jac about a possible fix for bluetooth, and twisted zero is supposedly getting really close with the led's, also with the htc kernal that was made open.
It really wouldn't suprise to me to see in another month or so a hero rom that competes with stock cupcake, maybe i'm too optimistic though lol

david1171 said:
...maybe i'm too optimistic though lol
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I think so too.

Binary100100 said:
I think so too.
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well when you compare jac's 1.4 back when hero threads were getting thrashed left and right to what the hero rom's are now. there is a vast improvement. I remember when I couldn't use a hero rom for more than a few hours without having to go to a stable rom. now my friend has had a rom on his phone a few weeks and hasn't said anything to me about it running horribly so maybe one day...

david1171 said:
well when you compare jac's 1.4 back when hero threads were getting thrashed left and right to what the hero rom's are now. there is a vast improvement. I remember when I couldn't use a hero rom for more than a few hours without having to go to a stable rom. now my friend has had a rom on his phone a few weeks and hasn't said anything to me about it running horribly so maybe one day...
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I agree that the Hero roms are stable enough for daily use provided that you make certain adjustments, but in regards to the LED and bluetooth I don't think they will be perfect for a long time. The LED will hopefully come soon since Twisted reported getting them to work. But I don't understand why we don't have fully working LED's like that was announce last week. Perhaps it was an accidental fix that couldn't be recreated? Perhaps it was a fluke? Who knows. What I do know is that the LED's still need work even after it was reported to have a fix. As for bluetooth... as far as I know and read it could only be initialized by manual command lines and not from the settings app. Even IF there is a fix... will it be full bluetooth (A2DP) or just enough to pair and use a headset?
The fact that the BT and LED's for Hero builds tend to work with MT3G and not the G1 tells me that it's hardware related and not so much in code or scripts. So if fixes to the LED and BT are developed and perfected then how will the MT3G work after flashed a ROM with these patches included? Will they conflict? Will we need different ROMs for different phones? I'm not trying to be negative or pessimistic but I'm just not seeing full fixes for these issues to be ready, available and implemented this week or next. Maybe in a month or two... but that's as far as my optimisism takes me. But I hope that I'm wrong.

Been away for a bit.....about this NAND

I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.

I would avoid doing a NAND flash unless you have a spare phone handy. I have a kaiser and I have been unable to find a build that is usable on a daily basis. Yes, running from NAND is definitely faster and better battery but its not worth it if you don't have another phone you can pop your SIM in if you get in a jam.

mikeschevelle said:
I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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see the FAQ thread, answers about battery life and nand and everything else.

Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
mikeschevelle said:
I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?

mssmison said:
Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
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I am running from SD card in Haret and I agree with mssmison. I find Android quite usable on a daily basis and can only imagine that NAND would be even better! I am using Myn's Warm Donut. It's great. It has 8 themes to choose from.

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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?
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Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.

mssmison said:
Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.
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I want that vogue; I've never gotten much past 24h with mine with data on, background data off. I rarely talk on my phone, mainly texting, rare internet. have not noted a difference in battery life between nand and sd. people's experience with battery is very variable.

Current most stable rom?

I have an N1, but the G1 is my girlfriends, and apparently all the stuff I've done, something always is tweaking or wrong with it.
While for the past year I've been quite involved in the tinker'ing with the G1,
lately I've flashed the hell out of the G1, and now find myself trying to find a stable rom that works.
Im a heavy reader, but I simply just dont have time anymore to keep up to know a stable rom, its patches and whatnot.
Really, need the help.
Super D 1.11 good? or is a older copy a better way to go? 1.9.3?
Wanna get this done tonight, if anyone can offer advice,
You'll be awesome. I can donate if you anyone cares to elaborate .. I dont need details how to flash and stuff, Im just referring to proper setup between compcache, swap, swap partition size. ext2-4? , etc.
I've read shadow's guide, couldnt find information if overclock_upgrade2 worked on SuperD or not, and im just trying to get fast, stable 1.6
I have a transcend 8gb class 6 in there, and its not toast yet.
Also have Danger on her phone aswell.
Again, ill donate if someone can get this out of the way for me.
Been fighting a Windows install for a customer for 4 days now and just got piled with even more work.
i got atleast $5
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really? no one?

Cyan's Donut build was quite stable for me. I had my 8 gb card partitioned as 512 mb ext-2, 96 mb swap with swappiness set to 60 using Swapper for Root, and the remaining as Fat32. That configutation ran good for me (although probably overkill on the swap).
Overclocking has not been as stable as I would like and probably not needed anyway.
If you want ultimate stability go back to stock firmware.
Pretty cool your gf has a G1, I got one for mine and she kept it for a week before taking it back and getting a blackberry. Thumbs down.

I tried CM 5.07 and I don't think it's ready to be a daily driver and his latest-donut was lacking in speed department so I found myself going back to Super-D. It kinda went downhill after 1.10.2 in my opinion... At this point I'm on 1.9.3 which I found to be unbeatable in terms of speed and stability. I also rm a lot of stuf to make it lighter: I remove VPN, Voice Dialer, Email.apk, Bluetooth.apk, SD-updater, Genie widget, etc. I also added some latest goodies (MusicMod and Phone.apk from 1.11, ADW Launcher, transparent powertop widget, etc). YMMV but it's working out for me so far.
Good luck.

Fastest, most stable ROM

Since getting a Desire, my Dream has been relegated to gym-time/weekend drinking duties, places I don't want to take my shiny new phone and get it broken or lost (also touchscreen-only keyboard just does not cut it when i'm drunk).
I used to flash a new ROM onto my Dream now & again to try stuff out, but really and truly all I want out of it now is speed and stability. I've really fallen out of the scene, and no longer have a clue what is what. Plus I just don't have the time any more :-(
Current ROM is SuperBad 1.3.3 (yes, that's how long ago I last flashed) and that is just laggy and annoying. I think it's set up with 32mb compcache and no swap. I don't really want to mess around adjusting settings to get best performance any more.
Would people mind giving their opinion on the best ROM for me? It would be awesome if you could all chip in! I honestly don't need any features out of this ROM, I don't care if it's cupcake, donut, eclair or froyo. All I want is phone/text/music functions, and for it be fast with no lag - I couldn't care less about anything else.
Thanks so much!

Go Donut, avoid anything above 1.6.
I highly recommend SuperD, it is currently the ROM I have stuck with the longest and will probably stick with for a very long time because it is indeed very fast and reliable and provides me with everything I need from a phone.

Took your advice and installed SuperD 1.11 (Black Ramhack), and it seems to be a good deal quicker than my previous ROM, and stable so far although I've not taxed it too much yet. The main improvement is that although you get the occasional pause when multitasking from app to app, that's all it is - just a pause. My last ROM used to hang for ages and you didn't know if it was going to complete the operation or not.
I suspect this SuperD is approaching the pinnacle of what can be achieved with the Dream, considering it's limited (by today's standards) hardware.
Now I'm thinking to myself "Hmmm, perhaps Froyo performance improvements can be had?" - and after I just said I didn't have time for messing around with this phone any more, lol!
Thanks again for the advice

Wow, I was suffering the same problem just like you before. I bought my Dream in April 2010. It slowed down when apps were installed.
I was annoyed at the speed of the performance. I tried a lot of ROMs, but they were all all SLOW.
A few days ago, I thought things must be changed. I bought a 4GB microSD Class 4 and used recovery to part is into three partions: 500MB ext, 3.4GB FAT32 and 96MB swap.
Than I tried out CyanogenMod 5.0.8.
I added some commands in userinit.sh to enable swap at startup.
I enabled App2SD to keep data partion clean.
I then installed TONS of apps.
It really runs well! Fast and stable!
BTW, the google-addons are installed separately so your Dream can be a phone/text/music-only phone.
Well, I am a Chinese high student and this is my first post in XDA. ^_^