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Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
sogrady said:
Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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I would suggest unlocking the boot loader, flashing either cwm or twrp recovery and finally flashing superuser. Keep in mind that unlocking the bootlaoder will void your warranty.
The benefit to this route is you will maintain root access, also you can easily flash Roms without the problems that cone along with pwnymymoto and safestrap.
Cm10.2 is around the corner and there's already a T-Mobile ROM that has the camera update included
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Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device?
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I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
aduane said:
I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
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don't think there is a dev edition rom to my knowledge. I haven't really read much about people saying the dev editions had anything different besides and unlockable bootloader which you don't have so you will only be able to flash roms through Safestrap if you haven't taken any OTA's yet.
While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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There is a Dev Edition ROM and it is the exact same ROM as the T-Mobile ROM which is the only Retail ROM.
I've noticed that we have a few Chinese users here and I was wondering what stock rom the phone has since we don't have a stock Chinese firmware, nor a stock firmware with even the Chinese language. Do ya'll get them with CM from the carrier over there? or do ya'll have a different stock than whats available here?
Thanks
I'm curious and this has always bugged me.
skeevydude said:
I've noticed that we have a few Chinese users here and I was wondering what stock rom the phone has since we don't have a stock Chinese firmware, nor a stock firmware with even the Chinese language. Do ya'll get them with CM from the carrier over there? or do ya'll have a different stock than whats available here?
Thanks
I'm curious and this has always bugged me.
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I dont think we have stock Chinese firmware since this phone is mainly focused on only some markets. even in my country (Vietnam), we're neighborhood of China but I still must buy an ATT one which is bought by shipping from US
Correct me if I'm wrong but if we have, more choices are better
devilsking said:
I dont think we have stock Chinese firmware since this phone is mainly focused on only some markets. even in my country (Vietnam), we're neighborhood of China but I still must buy an ATT one which is bought by shipping from US
Correct me if I'm wrong but if we have, more choices are better
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That sucks. I was, and still am, hoping that perhaps there's another stock firmware floating around somewhere. Later in its life the Defy started getting more and more Chinese users and firmwares, some of which were done in a way that it enabled us to flash custom roms if we screwed up and took an OTA that blocked the hacks. The first Atrix even had a leaked Chinese ICS even though it was never officially supposed to be past Gingerbread. With the Chinese and Asian users here, I was hoping an Asian carrier might have released or is using a different stock firmware than what we already have....maybe that's not the case and they're all just importing like you.
I am Chinese ,but I like to use a English firmware .it can help to improve my English skill .
lounew said:
I am Chinese ,but I like to use a English firmware .it can help to improve my English skill .
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If that is the case. When you buy a Chinese Atrix HD do you get it with a Chinese firmware or did you had to flash an US firmware?
TecknoFreak said:
If that is the case. When you buy a Chinese Atrix HD do you get it with a Chinese firmware or did you had to flash an US firmware?
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if the phone is popular in China , the storekeeper will hire someone to develop the Chinese package so that we can get the Chinese interface .
MB886 is popular ,so it has the Chinese package at first ,after unclock the bootloader , they also translate other rom into Chinese,like slim,beanstalk and so on .
if the phone has Chinese interface ,it can sells in higher price .
I used to bought a moto XT881, it is very cheap because no Chinese interface .
Ohhh i see. Thanks for sharing. So in other words the phone do get stock version same as ours.
Hello guys, i have bought an unlocked Nexus 6 from Amazon few days back and i want to download the latest factory image from HERE but im confused as to which one of these 2 to download and how not to get confused in the future:
-5.1.1 (All carriers except T-Mobile US) (LMY47Z)
-5.1.1 (LMY48I)
appreciate any info guys, thanks.
woomera said:
Hello guys, i have bought an unlocked Nexus 6 from Amazon few days back and i want to download the latest factory image from HERE but im confused as to which one of these 2 to download and how not to get confused in the future:
-5.1.1 (All carriers except T-Mobile US) (LMY47Z)
-5.1.1 (LMY48I)
appreciate any info guys, thanks.
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Well, what country / carrier are you on?
danarama said:
Well, what country / carrier are you on?
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in Turkey. different carrier's.
woomera said:
in Turkey. different carrier's.
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Only difference for you then is one is newer than the other. So use the newest (48i).
Further info: ALL Nexus 6 can use the same ROMs. The only difference is that some US carriers have specific ROMs to add functions or just so they can approve the builds themselves. So you just need to avoid the Builds that are specifically for T-Mobile or Verizon IF you want OTA to work in the future. Otherwise, you could use any.
danarama said:
Only difference for you then is one is newer than the other. So use the newest (48i).
Further info: ALL Nexus 6 can use the same ROMs. The only difference is that some US carriers have specific ROMs to add functions or just so they can approve the builds themselves. So you just need to avoid the Builds that are specifically for T-Mobile or Verizon IF you want OTA to work in the future. Otherwise, you could use any.
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thanks for the information.
Alright guys, so I have a quick question I'm unsure about. So I bought a Nexus 6 off of the Google Play Store, and I am using it on T-Mobile. So for the wifi calling feature, I understand that I would have to have bought the device from T-Mobile themselves for the feature to be built into the OS correct? And if that's the case, is it safe to fastboot flash the T-Mobile firmware to a device bought off of Google Play? Or is that a bad idea because of a different chipset of some kind? Thanks!
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Alright guys, so I have a quick question I'm unsure about. So I bought a Nexus 6 off of the Google Play Store, and I am using it on T-Mobile. So for the wifi calling feature, I understand that I would have to have bought the device from T-Mobile themselves for the feature to be built into the OS correct? And if that's the case, is it safe to fastboot flash the T-Mobile firmware to a device bought off of Google Play? Or is that a bad idea because of a different chipset of some kind? Thanks!
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Yes, you can flash the t-mobile img and get the features they offer.
Just to clarify:
All N6 are the same. What build you get in an OTA is decided based on your sim-card (if you have a T-mobile sim, you'll get the T-mobile build).
In other words, if you're using a T-mobile sim there should be no reason for you to flash an image. Unless you've been tinkering with your phone (root, custom recovery, custom kernel), then you have to use the images to update since it'll be impossible to install updates through OTA.
So it doesn't hurt to flash any of the builds that's on the Google developers site for my nexus 6? None will brick the device somehow? And also, I have a T-Mobile sim in my nexus here, but my phone still updated to LMY48M not the T-Mobile build. I have tinkered with the device, yes. It is rooted right now and I have flashed images to it before. I have flashed LMY48I earlier on and just last week flashed LMY48M. But I did an OTA update from stock LMY48I and it took me to LMY48M. Sorry if this is confusing.
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Yes, you can flash the t-mobile img and get the features they offer.
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So the build on the Google developers site that says (for T-Mobile ONLY) is safe to flash on my device?
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H4X0R46 said:
So the build on the Google developers site that says (for T-Mobile ONLY) is safe to flash on my device?
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Yes, when you're in the US.
Here in Europe (Netherlands) we use a different image, although we have also T-Mobile.
It is good you ask about this, because there are many others that are/were confused.
H4X0R46 said:
So the build on the Google developers site that says (for T-Mobile ONLY) is safe to flash on my device?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Yes, it is safe to flash on any Nexus 6. North American or International. Every Rom works on Every Nexus 6. Regardless. The only difference is if you are on T-mobile or Verizon, if you want WiFi Calling or VoLTE (respectively) You'll need their specific builds.
Oh yea, it's definitely confusing haha When it comes to flashing anything Android powered, there's almost always a possibility to brick so I had to ask. Alright! Thanks guys! I'm gonna flash the T-Mobile image today because I am on T-Mobile and this phone is still on the US International image.
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danarama said:
Yes, it is safe to flash on any Nexus 6. North American or International. Every Rom works on Every Nexus 6. Regardless. The only difference is if you are on T-mobile or Verizon, if you want WiFi Calling or VoLTE (respectively) You'll need their specific builds.
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So just to clarify, there is no risk in flashing ANY of the images for the nexus 6 because all nexus 6 devices around the world are the same chipset correct?
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H4X0R46 said:
So just to clarify, there is no risk in flashing ANY of the images for the nexus 6 because all nexus 6 devices around the world are the same chipset correct?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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just to clarify what? i try not to be rude, but we have told you numerous times you can flash any build...
bweN diorD said:
just to clarify what? i try not to be rude, but we have told you numerous times you can flash any build...
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Just making 100% sure, it was said yes, but not directly. They said "go ahead and flash the T-Mobile build" but as for "any" build, notice the word "any". I just wanna make sure, sorry I don't wanna hard brick a $700 device.
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Just making 100% sure, it was said yes, but not directly. They said "go ahead and flash the T-Mobile build" but as for "any" build, notice the word "any". I just wanna make sure, sorry I don't wanna hard brick a $700 device.
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If on T-Mobile flash latest for T-Mobile. If not on T-Mobile flash latest Generic which is every carrier but T-Mobile. It not rocket science.
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Hi guys,
Is there an option to flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?
Reef2009
Not now, but I really want it. Is very dificult to get a Moto X4 version Android One outside of USA... :crying:
No, but a guy in the custom roms thread was able to flash the retail Moto x4 ROM onto his Fi phone (as a last resort to recover his bricked device).
I really want this feature in moto... As I don't know the regular moto will get updates like Android one or not, as I know obviously the Android one get updates faster but the regular version will get same updates even if its late or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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Yes you are right he is working hard for this device.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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can we follow this person somewhere on social? is he here on xda forum? can you share a link to some of his work? just asking..
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
kraatus90 said:
Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
it will be possible as soon as we get some working factory images from lenovo.. the phones aren't different at all
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pizza_pablo said:
Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
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ofc not but the phone works just fine with other carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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cpt-harlock said:
Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
pizza_pablo said:
So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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The retailer one comes out full of annoying bloatwares. Actually I don't care about Fi Project, I just want have the cleanest UI possibile with only the strictly necessary. Oh, there are the security patches and os updates aspects too.
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DiDGR8 said:
I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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This reminds me of older non-nexus phones- we would have to grab the OTA and use tools to construct the stock rom in a form that was flashable/modifiable. In the pre-lollipop? times, the patches were file based, so it was much easier to modify just specific files. The OTAs are now block based, so they just modify the atomic blocks that need changing, so you need an exact copy of the file system in order to apply the OTA.