I have an HTC One, it's not rooted, so running all standard OS apps/settings etc.
I've been monitoring my usage due to restrictions on my data plan more than anything, and have been using the reasonably popular app "Traffic Monitor".
I'm finding I'm getting large amounts of 'system traffic', it isn't broken down any further than that. It's not push mail or fb traffic etc, that is all recorded separately
I'm talking between 50-100Mb of 'system traffic' a day while on wifi. Sometimes I get random bursts of ~70Mb over a 2 hour period.
Any thoughts on what this is or how to reduce it?
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On my work wifi I don't have the proxy configured, so the only thing it can access is the work mail server and most things google. That works fine for me given I use gmail and don't have a need for anything else on my phone while at work, but I still get this usage which (in my mind) and confirmed via packet inspection, tells me it is all 'google based' traffic.
My wife has an HTC One X + and it similarly accumulates a lot of system traffic but about 1/5-1/6th the amount my One does...
I went through and disabled all apps I have downloaded, turned off auto sync and htc error reporting, location services yada yada and it still seems to just carry on at about 1-5Kb every few seconds (so 60Kb odd per minute and a couple of Mb an hour - approximately speaking).
I have unlimited internet at home so it's not a major just seems really odd and excessive.
Don't know about you but I used chompsms and it was connecting like crazy.
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Fidelcastrol said:
Don't know about you but I used chompsms and it was connecting like crazy.
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Ah, I do use chompsms (and my wife doesn't). Will have a look at that!
Interesting, I just re-enabled dropbox and signed in, it synced my photos over the last few days using about 50Mb in say 3-4 minutes, in that same period my phone used 5Mb of 'system traffic'. I don't mean this in a paranoid way at all, but it's like it's reporting every bit of activity somewhere continuously. The system traffic is excessive in it's own right, but it also seems to be vastly inflated when other things are running...
I don't even know what an expected or adequate or minimal level of this system traffic would be.
Contemplating a full restore to factory and only installing the traffic monitor app to see how much it uses completely stock... Shouldn't have to faff around this much though :/
Will look into chomp and report back.
Maybe you should install betterbatterystats and see exactly what is sending all of this data.
Found out that there's are some HTC stock apps sending data, and I can't seem to find which ones are doing it. But that's ok add I guess it's related to meteo, blinkfeed, or global notifications system.
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It's not blinkfeed is it?
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Thanks guys.After removing chompsms it still seemed to be accumulating 'system traffic'. I completely reset my phone and monitored it for half a day. It was far less, as in negligible. Have slowly reinstalled apps and it is increasing with each app install but it's still not at the level it was.
I have noticed it is definitely proportional to the other traffic being used. When I re set up dropbox and pulled down my photos (back to my blanked phone) it used about 1.5gb of dropbox traffic over say an hour or so, and the 'system traffic' for that period was about 120Mb. Once the download had stopped, the system traffic went back to being almost negligible.
I don't believe it is blinkfeed, as when I'm at work (with no proxy set) it wouldn't be able to pull in 99% of the blinkfeed content (no fb posts, no twitter etc).
I'm not that worried about it for myself, just think it's odd really.
So at the moment it is low again. And I'm slowly reinstalling apps and keeping an eye on it. I would like to get chompsms back on there.
I have purchased betterbatterystats, the trouble with that (and with the traffic monitor app) is so much of the 'google' and a bit of the 'htc' traffic/wakelocks are soo vague (IMO) but I'm not that technical tbf.
Hard to be sure exactly what it's tracking at at the moment given jumping on fb, web or emails inflates it (given this whole proportional thing noted) I can only really track it overnight for idle use, or during the time I'm sorting the kids and not on the phone etc.
Say it was rogue using 50-100Mb a day and I stay and a friend or families house on their wifi, and they have a 4gb plan not unlimited like myself, then I'd use a large chunk of their quota just with my phone idle in my pocket...
Not sure about that app but what you need to see is the traffic itself .. for example what sites or network are being connected to .. that might give a better idea of the issue at hand
As a XDA member you could have downloaded BBS for free I totally forgot to tell you that sorry
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Hi everyone,
I have had the Moto G 2nd Gen for about 10 days now and I have noticed that notifications from several apps (Exchange email, Gmail, Whatspp, Facebook...) are either delayed by a few hours or don't come at all. This happens on both Wifi or my network. Has anyone else experienced this ?
I have tried the following with no success:
1- disable Wifi optimization
2- factory reset phone
3- Installed PNF No-Root and set hearbeat to 5min
4- Cleared data & cache of apps
My phone is not rooted running 4.4.4
Thanks
Yes I am having the same problem this is my thread on the subject:http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/notification-problems-t2875216
I have tried 1, 2 and 4 of your attempts to fix it to no avail.
Before I reset the phone all notifications showed the correct time that they should have come, for example if I slept the phone at 10:40 and a notification came at 10:44, I then woke the phone at 10:50 the phone would immediately buzz and sound but it would say the notification came at 10:44 in the notification draw.
However after the factory reset of the device in the same situation the notification draw would show 10:50 but I know that is wrong because WhatsApp for instance will say the correct 10:44 timestamp on the message in the app.
Notifications when the phone is awake come through perfectly every time.
The problem is actually not limited to just notifications, I play music from my phone, when the the phone is awake it plays perfectly, when you sleep the phone, the music will carry on playing but occasionally it will have a hiccup where it will stop playing for a split second then carry on, and sometimes at the end of a song you expect the next song to start but it never will, if you then wake the device the song will start playing like nothing was wrong (exactly how the notification problem is).
I don't know what the problem is I suspect something to do with bad software or faulty hardware if there is a specific part of the hardware that only comes into play when sleeping (I don't know if there is or not).
What are the specifics of your phone? Mine is a XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB completely stock 4.4.4, the system version is: 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb, will be good to know if this affects specific versions of the phone or any version, to narrow down the problem.
The problem is also completely random I cannot 'make' the problem happen it just does.
Mine is the same as yours XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb.
I also have the same problem with music, I also noticed this with chromecast, it seems to loose connection after playing one track.
I contacted Motorola assist and they said replace the phone. I'm not sure if replacing it will solve the problem, I'm guessing this is a software issue. I
I got it from Amazon UK, I'm thinking of returning this and going back to my Galaxy Nexus and wait for the new Nexus phone.
Because we have the same software version I more strongly suspect this is a software issue now, I'm not sure what to do, I don't really want to return the phone as I will be left phoneless and a replacement would just come with the same software.
Another option would be to re flash to a different software version (an international version) but that will invalidate the warranty.
Not really sure what to do, would be good hearing if any retGB people are not having any problems, if any are reading this thread? or if any non retGB are having this problem.
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Yes I am having the same problem this is my thread on the subject:http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/notification-problems-t2875216
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The problem is actually not limited to just notifications, I play music from my phone, when the the phone is awake it plays perfectly, when you sleep the phone, the music will carry on playing but occasionally it will have a hiccup where it will stop playing for a split second then carry on, and sometimes at the end of a song you expect the next song to start but it never will, if you then wake the device the song will start playing like nothing was wrong (exactly how the notification problem is).
I don't know what the problem is I suspect something to do with bad software or faulty hardware if there is a specific part of the hardware that only comes into play when sleeping (I don't know if there is or not).
What are the specifics of your phone? Mine is a XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB completely stock 4.4.4, the system version is: 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb, will be good to know if this affects specific versions of the phone or any version, to narrow down the problem.
The problem is also completely random I cannot 'make' the problem happen it just does.
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For notification problem read description of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer.noroot&hl=en
and yes I also have same problem for play music my phone is XT1068 16gb retaildsdsall.en.03.retin
I think you should create new thread for play music problem, seems like we all have that
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For notification problem read description of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer.noroot&hl=en
and yes I also have same problem for play music my phone is XT1068 16gb retaildsdsall.en.03.retin
I think you should create new thread for play music problem, seems like we all have that
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:\ it doesn't look like that app fixes it even when changing the interval to 1min.
I've sort of found a way to at least make it happen to test stuff, using 2 devices I have installed Telegram on both and set each device up with different numbers so I can message from one device to the other, using the other device to the Moto G if I send messages sometimes the notification is instant, sometimes it is a minute later, there is no pattern on whether it will receive it instantly or delayed, however waking the device will always make the phone buzz if it is delayed.
If I add my tablet into the mix (tablet and Moto G on the same number) the difference is very stark, sending 5 quick fire messages the tablet buzzes for every message, the Moto G may buzz for the first and maybe the 2nd but then nothing for the other 3, or none at all, or none and then double beep on the last message or a little time after the last message. (all this is on WiFi)
The best news is that it has eventually beeped within a couple of minutes for every message, but in a conversation on WhatsApp a couple of minutes is a long time.
Again if the phone is awake or playing music while sleeping it works perfect a beep for every message every time (WiFi Again). (I know PNF is only a partial fix for WhatsApp and Telegram but I can't test it easily with Gmail and the main concern is WhatsApp as I want those messages without delay)
It's definitely something to do with keeping the phone 'active', if it's playing the music it works, if it's doing nothing it is literally like it's sleeping on the job.
I'm going to test on 3G but seems to work almost perfect so far (I haven't really used my phone on 3G much as I'm normally on WiFi)
@katkat911 can you tell me about your WiFi setup it isn't TP-Link is it? because I'm wondering if it could be a WiFi setup issue as my phone originally couldn't even detect my router until I changed some settings. (I know you have the problem on 3G too)
Apologies if this is a bit rambly I want to put my casual findings out there in order to let others have the information.
Been testing on 3G, after the phone is slept all notifications work perfectly for 10 minutes with the phone buzzing a second or 2 after my tablet, if you sleep the phone and send a message after 10 minutes the phone will only buzz after 30 minutes from being slept (ie the heartbeat).
I've reinstalled PNF app and will experiment more tomorrow, still not sure how I will fix WiFi but I think a little more experimentation is required (yet doesn't make sense why my tablet always works 100% and the phone doesn't when using the same router)
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:\ it doesn't look like that app fixes it even when changing the interval to 1min.
I've sort of found a way to at least make it happen to test stuff, using 2 devices I have installed Telegram on both and set each device up with different numbers so I can message from one device to the other, using the other device to the Moto G if I send messages sometimes the notification is instant, sometimes it is a minute later, there is no pattern on whether it will receive it instantly or delayed, however waking the device will always make the phone buzz if it is delayed.
If I add my tablet into the mix (tablet and Moto G on the same number) the difference is very stark, sending 5 quick fire messages the tablet buzzes for every message, the Moto G may buzz for the first and maybe the 2nd but then nothing for the other 3, or none at all, or none and then double beep on the last message or a little time after the last message. (all this is on WiFi)
The best news is that it has eventually beeped within a couple of minutes for every message, but in a conversation on WhatsApp a couple of minutes is a long time.
Again if the phone is awake or playing music while sleeping it works perfect a beep for every message every time (WiFi Again). (I know PNF is only a partial fix for WhatsApp and Telegram but I can't test it easily with Gmail and the main concern is WhatsApp as I want those messages without delay)
It's definitely something to do with keeping the phone 'active', if it's playing the music it works, if it's doing nothing it is literally like it's sleeping on the job.
I'm going to test on 3G but seems to work almost perfect so far (I haven't really used my phone on 3G much as I'm normally on WiFi)
@katkat911 can you tell me about your WiFi setup it isn't TP-Link is it? because I'm wondering if it could be a WiFi setup issue as my phone originally couldn't even detect my router until I changed some settings. (I know you have the problem on 3G too)
Apologies if this is a bit rambly I want to put my casual findings out there in order to let others have the information.
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I agree with you that it has something to do with phone going to sleep. My WiFi router is Netgear. I have they same problem with every other WiFi network and also on 3G. I didnt have this problem on my previous phone Galaxy Nexus.
PNF doesnt seem to work at all.
Notification problem is proved. I also have the issue. that 10 mins theory is absolutely right. as both of you have done good research, I would suggest one of you create a question at https://forums.motorola.com/hives/e3ec93b1d7/summary and summarize all your findings. Some one from Motorola will respond definitely. I see this as a deep sleep issue with the kernel. Once submitted, you can share the link of your thread here. I and others will comment confirming this as a common problem.
You may have to first register with your moto id or may be google id.
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Notification problem is proved. I also have the issue. that 10 mins theory is absolutely right. as both of you have done good research, I would suggest one of you create a question at https://forums.motorola.com/hives/e3ec93b1d7/summary and summarize all your findings. Some one from Motorola will respond definitely. I see this as a deep sleep issue with the kernel. Once submitted, you can share the link of your thread here. I and others will comment confirming this as a common problem.
You may have to first register with your moto id or may be google id.
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I have posted this on the Motoral forums here https://forums.motorola.com/posts/dbb4806484
I have been experimenting again today, the problem is significantly worse on WiFi notifications are much slower than on 3G, the problem seems completely unreplicable, sometimes notifications come though aOK even after I have left the device sleeping for an hour (using WiFi) or sometimes the notification will be delayed for several minutes even if it has only just been slept (again using WiFi), 3G on the other hand there is a definite 10 minute cut off from sleeping the device.
I've had PNF installed since last night and it doesn't help WiFi at all, but 3G it might, I say might because sometimes after 10 minutes (even an hour later) if I send a notification I do receive it straight away (something that never happened before I installed PNF) but then sometimes it doesn't and it's delayed for several minutes again.
I will join the Moto forum and add my weight to that when I get back to my computer as you need to sign in with a Google account.
I've also noticed that if the phone is sleeping whilst charging notifications work flawlessly in much the same way playing music while the device is sleeping they do. I've posted this finding in the Moto forums as well.
Fingers crossed we get a solution :fingers-crossed:
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I've also noticed that if the phone is sleeping whilst charging notifications work flawlessly in much the same way playing music while the device is sleeping they do. I've posted this finding in the Moto forums as well.
Fingers crossed we get a solution :fingers-crossed:
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I have also noticed that. It seems that many are having this issue, so far no reply from Motorola
Motorola might be investigating about it. Yesterday i went back to dalvik from art. I tested the notifications the while day. On Wi-Fi, i didn't see the delays any more. In 3g many tests were successful even after 1hr of deep sleep. Only at 4pm India time i found a delay of 22 mins for whatsapp notification. There i also realized that it had switched to 2g due to bad signal in that room. I was definitely having problem when i was on art. Last night i also got the ota for build 23. I see that the kernel is updated. I will monitor one more day and report here.
Motorola has at least seen the post even with no reply, I just hope they are busy behind the scenes working out what is wrong so they can fix it.
I've never used ART (I'm completely stock), and all the problems are still happening today, unfortunately Telegram is being DDoS'd today so haven't been able to test anything out.
It will be interesting to hear if the update you received helps in any way, esp with the updated kernel, since your retGB device received it hopefully ours may do soon too.
As far as I can tell it doesn't affect calls and SMS, but I simply don't use SMS or calls at all (WhatsApp ftw) so my testing has been the odd 'prank' phone call from my 2nd phone and it rings every time, but it's not enough to confirm if it's a fluke or if in fact it does not affect phone calls/SMS.
SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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That's good news, hopefully the update has indeed fixed it, there's no indication when the update will hit the UK but if it does fix it then ASAP I hope.
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SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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How is the phone with the new OTA update ? are notifications still delayed?
There's still no word from Motorola
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How is the phone with the new OTA update ? are notifications still delayed?
There's still no word from Motorola
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In a different thread Motorola amin had mentioned that they are investigating the notification delay issue. I don't see much delays after the update. There are few mins here and there, but mostly good. If you haven't received the update yet, check the ota thread and update manually. It's the same update. Then see if you find any improvement.
I got the OTA update yesterday and I'm still having the same issues
I'm not sure if it's due to WiFi shutting off while the phone is asleep or not, but I've experienced several delays in emails coming in the past few months, a couple of which cost me a large amount of money because of me not getting notified, and then not being the first to respond to the email.
Some of these delays are as much as 30 minutes. I've confirmed that on my desktop computer the email was immediately available, just no notification on the phone until much later.
I've tried turning off power management for Gmail... WHen that didn't help, I tried moving over to Protonmail. Same thing - delays even with power management turned off for the app.
I suspect it might be the WiFi turning off as the phone goes to sleep, but I can't find a setting to control that anymore since Android 11 came in.
Any suggestions?
someone has made a thread like this already and there was a solution.
have a look at battery optimisation and background data for Gmail, quicker to use search for them than me remembering exactly how you get there.
Good day everyone, I'm having a really frustrating problem since I got my phone a month ago. I hope I can get some help here.
From day 1 I've had issues with network on my WiFi. No issues connecting to it, no issues using the internet, let me explain. I first noticed it on MIUI Themes. That was the first thing I went into after setting up my phone. It kept saying "can't connect to network". I figured it was a bug and will be fixed in the 12.5 update (spoiler alert: it didn't). Then I started to notice during setting up of my accounts, discord, reddit, etc. that the login was incredible slow the first time. It would just keep loading when I hit next. Not long after, I downloaded a game and it refused to update saying "can't connect to server". I had to start the process with my data then switch back to WiFi. For clarity, once I'm in the game itself there's no issues, the stability never drops, I never lag, etc.
It became truly evident it wasn't isolated incidents when I would open one of my online shopping apps. It loads the main screen instantly but when I switch the tab to see notifications, the page would load but the notifications would take up to 30 seconds to load. If I clicked on it, the next page would take another 30 seconds to load. Since I've used this app on my previous phone/ipad on the same WiFi I could tell there was something wrong. It should be instant. I opened up MI Community app and I kid you not, it must have taken me 10 - 15 minutes to create an account with all the loading/lag. Every single time I open the app, it takes at least 40 seconds to a minute to load with other pages lagging as well.
I started this long process of trying everything I could find that talks about it which was not much and usually about older phones. I tried everything I could find except factory reset (some have said it doesn't fix it after trying it themselves). I tried all the WiFi adjustments, traffic mode, off private DNS, developer mode options, and obviously reset networks/router/reboot multiple times.
After spending a couple of hours trying to find every mention of this whether it's Youtube, websites or Reddit and trying them (I would switch them back to default after testing the suggestions as they didn't work), my PC started giving WiFi problems. It NEVER gives problems but I figured maybe it was due to the turning on/off router multiple times. I was so frustrated, I was like, screw this I'm done.
I restarted my PC and switched to my PS4 (which runs on the same WiFi with no issues ever in 3 years). As my PS4 booted up, I picked up my phone to check the delivery status on my shopping app and BAAM! For the first time since I downloaded the app, my notifications appeared instantly like it should, the next page loaded immediately. I was like, hold up... I went into MI Community app and BOOM! it loaded immediately, I was shook. One final test, MIUI Themes that has never worked properly since day 1 with its constant "can't connect to network". BLAAM! Every page, instant, clean sweet speed. It felt like a whole new phone, like the new phone that I was supposed to feel all along.
I enjoyed a good 6 hours of bliss, constantly checking my shopping status just as an excuse to enjoy witnessing the speed. He giveth and then he taketh away and as luck would have it, there was a power outage midday. When the power was back on and the WiFi was up, we were back to the suffering. I tried to restart my PC as that was the key trigger and it worked for about a minute and then was the end of it. No amount of shutting down / restarting PC/router fixed it again.
There's something blocking the connection between my router and phone I believe. I figured the initial restart PC fix stopped the connection to the PC and gave the priority to my phone, if you will. That's rubbish I know because my WiFi runs on 4 other devices and never lags.
I'm no tech expert, in fact, I'm the opposite of that, it's embarrassing. I hope y'all can see something I'm unaware of and guide me. I'm certain the phone isn't defective and my WiFi is fine on every other device not to mention it ran flawlessly for 6 hours while other devices were also using the same WiFi.
If you've read this far, thank you very much. I apologize the post is very long, I wanted to get everything in so it paints a clear picture of the issue. I'll add a TLDR just incase.
TLDR: WiFi issues from day 1 in 2/3 of apps mostly with initial connections. 1 month later a chance restart of my PC fixed it. Power outage later that day, problem returned.
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