[Q] Excessive 'system traffic' - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an HTC One, it's not rooted, so running all standard OS apps/settings etc.
I've been monitoring my usage due to restrictions on my data plan more than anything, and have been using the reasonably popular app "Traffic Monitor".
I'm finding I'm getting large amounts of 'system traffic', it isn't broken down any further than that. It's not push mail or fb traffic etc, that is all recorded separately
I'm talking between 50-100Mb of 'system traffic' a day while on wifi. Sometimes I get random bursts of ~70Mb over a 2 hour period.
Any thoughts on what this is or how to reduce it?
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On my work wifi I don't have the proxy configured, so the only thing it can access is the work mail server and most things google. That works fine for me given I use gmail and don't have a need for anything else on my phone while at work, but I still get this usage which (in my mind) and confirmed via packet inspection, tells me it is all 'google based' traffic.
My wife has an HTC One X + and it similarly accumulates a lot of system traffic but about 1/5-1/6th the amount my One does...
I went through and disabled all apps I have downloaded, turned off auto sync and htc error reporting, location services yada yada and it still seems to just carry on at about 1-5Kb every few seconds (so 60Kb odd per minute and a couple of Mb an hour - approximately speaking).
I have unlimited internet at home so it's not a major just seems really odd and excessive.

Don't know about you but I used chompsms and it was connecting like crazy.
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Fidelcastrol said:
Don't know about you but I used chompsms and it was connecting like crazy.
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Ah, I do use chompsms (and my wife doesn't). Will have a look at that!
Interesting, I just re-enabled dropbox and signed in, it synced my photos over the last few days using about 50Mb in say 3-4 minutes, in that same period my phone used 5Mb of 'system traffic'. I don't mean this in a paranoid way at all, but it's like it's reporting every bit of activity somewhere continuously. The system traffic is excessive in it's own right, but it also seems to be vastly inflated when other things are running...
I don't even know what an expected or adequate or minimal level of this system traffic would be.
Contemplating a full restore to factory and only installing the traffic monitor app to see how much it uses completely stock... Shouldn't have to faff around this much though :/
Will look into chomp and report back.

Maybe you should install betterbatterystats and see exactly what is sending all of this data.
Found out that there's are some HTC stock apps sending data, and I can't seem to find which ones are doing it. But that's ok add I guess it's related to meteo, blinkfeed, or global notifications system.
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It's not blinkfeed is it?
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Thanks guys.After removing chompsms it still seemed to be accumulating 'system traffic'. I completely reset my phone and monitored it for half a day. It was far less, as in negligible. Have slowly reinstalled apps and it is increasing with each app install but it's still not at the level it was.
I have noticed it is definitely proportional to the other traffic being used. When I re set up dropbox and pulled down my photos (back to my blanked phone) it used about 1.5gb of dropbox traffic over say an hour or so, and the 'system traffic' for that period was about 120Mb. Once the download had stopped, the system traffic went back to being almost negligible.
I don't believe it is blinkfeed, as when I'm at work (with no proxy set) it wouldn't be able to pull in 99% of the blinkfeed content (no fb posts, no twitter etc).
I'm not that worried about it for myself, just think it's odd really.
So at the moment it is low again. And I'm slowly reinstalling apps and keeping an eye on it. I would like to get chompsms back on there.
I have purchased betterbatterystats, the trouble with that (and with the traffic monitor app) is so much of the 'google' and a bit of the 'htc' traffic/wakelocks are soo vague (IMO) but I'm not that technical tbf.
Hard to be sure exactly what it's tracking at at the moment given jumping on fb, web or emails inflates it (given this whole proportional thing noted) I can only really track it overnight for idle use, or during the time I'm sorting the kids and not on the phone etc.
Say it was rogue using 50-100Mb a day and I stay and a friend or families house on their wifi, and they have a 4gb plan not unlimited like myself, then I'd use a large chunk of their quota just with my phone idle in my pocket...

Not sure about that app but what you need to see is the traffic itself .. for example what sites or network are being connected to .. that might give a better idea of the issue at hand

As a XDA member you could have downloaded BBS for free I totally forgot to tell you that sorry
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Nexus One never sleeping

I have tried searching the forums but have found nothing yet, so I was hoping someone could help me. I am currently using Enomther's rom, but this has happened on every rom I've tried (Desire, Cyan, etc.). My problem is the Nexus One is running 100% of the time. In comparison, the screen was on for 5.2% of the time. And I have definitely noticed the battery. Even if in standby, it loses 10-20% battery an hour. By the time I make it home from school, I have about 20% battery left, with almost no usage whatsoever. I've checked to see if it's any apps that won't close, but my highest used app was only a few minutes according to spare parts. Cpu usuage is barely visible as well in spare parts.
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Advanced Task Killer
AK Notepad
Any Cut
Astrid
ASTRO
aTrackDog
Barcode Scanner
Battery Graph
Beautiful Widgets
Call Meter NG
Classic Simon
Mathpad
Contacts Clean-up
Dictionary.com
eBuddy
Engadget
FMyLife Official
FotMob 4.6
Funny Jokes
Google Sky Map
Google Translate
GPS Status
jkAppSwitch
Maps
Meebo IM
Metamorph
MountUSB
Movies
MyBackup Pro
Opera Mini 5 Beta
Paypal
Picsay
Pkt Auctions eBay
Places Directory
Quick System Info
Quick Uninstaller
Replica Island
Robo Defense
Rom Manager
Screebl Lite
SetCpu
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ShopSavvy
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Looks like an application is holding the wake lock. Instant Messengers are good candidates for draining the battery. In my experience, Meebo loses connection frequently, and eBuddy has a mode to keep the connection, but it drains the battery very fast (AFAIR it has a mode that's easier on the battery by checking for messages every 15 minutes, but that's not all that instant anymore).
Good job you have AnyCut installed.
Use it to place a shortcut to the 'Testing' app (or dial *#*#4636#*#*), and use that to look at your battery history.
This will be able to confirim if your N1 is indeed staying awake, and if you use the 'partial wake usage' drop down box, it will tell you what's keeping it that way.
For partial wake usage, the only thing that pops out Android System which has a full bar. Nothing else is above a sliver.
Since you have titanium backup, why not make a backup, completely wipe your phone, and see if the problem persists? Then, add components at a time and see when the problem reappears. ie ROM -> a few apps -> a few apps -> etc. This will narrow down your search and hopefully pinpoint the problem.
You also might wanna look at logcat (e.g. via aLogCat), sometimes there are a lot of messages of runaway applications.
Here's my logcat
pastebin.com/2fj74zPn
No spare parts?
Downlaod it and try setting the end button behavious to go to sleep.
Seems like an obvious thing, but its worth a shot if you haven't already tried it.
izmar said:
No spare parts?
Downlaod it and try setting the end button behavious to go to sleep.
Seems like an obvious thing, but its worth a shot if you haven't already tried it.
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Yep, of course I have spare parts. I set that, but what exactly is the end button?
Edit* I've uninstalled every app on my phone, and yet the problem still persists. Running 100% of the time. What the heck is wrong with my phone?
panzival said:
Yep, of course I have spare parts. I set that, but what exactly is the end button?
Edit* I've uninstalled every app on my phone, and yet the problem still persists. Running 100% of the time. What the heck is wrong with my phone?
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I think your best bet us to just wipe everything, and reinstall the rom. That should get things going smoothly.
do you have trackball succession mod? that may be the reason.
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SiNJiN76 said:
do you have trackball succession mod? that may be the reason.
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No, but I did have trackball wake enabled. Would that matter? Also, I've installed Cyan and the problem seems to be gone, although battery still isn't great :/
I would figure that trackball wake will keep waking your phone when you accidentally hit the trackball when the phone is in your pocket or bags?
panzival said:
No, but I did have trackball wake enabled. Would that matter? Also, I've installed Cyan and the problem seems to be gone, although battery still isn't great :/
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One thing to check that I've run in to twice (unfortunately) is constant "syncing" of email. I only noticed it because the email app constantly showed the syncing circle (not in the notification bar, in the app). Clearning the storage/settings for email cleared it up, but it took a few days to find out what was causing it to never sleep.
Grooby97 said:
I would figure that trackball wake will keep waking your phone when you accidentally hit the trackball when the phone is in your pocket or bags?
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Yes but my phones running 100% of the time and my screens running 1/20 of that time. Surely my screen on time would increase as well? As well I'm sitting in class half the day and know for sure that I'm not hitting the trackball.
krohnjw said:
One thing to check that I've run in to twice (unfortunately) is constant "syncing" of email. I only noticed it because the email app constantly showed the syncing circle (not in the notification bar, in the app). Clearning the storage/settings for email cleared it up, but it took a few days to find out what was causing it to never sleep.
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Thanks, I'm going to look into this. Would this correspond to UID 10014 or Media having extremely high network usage as well? I just noticed these two things constantly have full network usage bars but don't know exactly what either are. How would I clear the settings/storage? I'm using a Desire Rom now if it matters.

3G data drain and repeated messages

I've had 2 problems with my G1, one of which for quite a while.
Starting off with the most severe and recent one, my phone has been randomly draining by data connection while I'm asleep. A couple of weeks ago, I woke up with my 3G turned off because I had reached my limit. As soon as I check my Netcounter, it seems like transfers up to 250MB had been made. But the phone was lying idle on my stand! I have no idea why this may happen and I believe I have a log that may have the problem included within.
As for my long lasting problem, my girlfriend has been complaining my phone sends her repeat message countless times, at random times. Sometimes 3 at a time, sometimes just 1.
I have no idea why this is happening either, but since I have free texts, I've been ignoring the problem so far.
Hope some of you can help me out with these.
Thanks!
SmoothMarx said:
I've had 2 problems with my G1, one of which for quite a while.
Starting off with the most severe and recent one, my phone has been randomly draining by data connection while I'm asleep. A couple of weeks ago, I woke up with my 3G turned off because I had reached my limit. As soon as I check my Netcounter, it seems like transfers up to 250MB had been made. But the phone was lying idle on my stand! I have no idea why this may happen and I believe I have a log that may have the problem included within.
As for my long lasting problem, my girlfriend has been complaining my phone sends her repeat message countless times, at random times. Sometimes 3 at a time, sometimes just 1.
I have no idea why this is happening either, but since I have free texts, I've been ignoring the problem so far.
Hope some of you can help me out with these.
Thanks!
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For the first problem, hit menu->settings->accounts and sync -> turn off background data and autosync. Your phone automatically syncs your information with your google account, including gmail, contacts, calendar, market, etc. By turning this off your phone will no longer automatically update that, so make sure that you turn it on when using wifi every once in a while so you don't waste your data.
As for the second problem I have no idea, but I too noticed it does that sometimes.
Well, usually I'm not too concerned about data limits because my monthly limit is 300MB, more than acceptable for a phone, in my opinion. However, how can an idle phone sync text-based data up to a size of 250MB? It's like my phone was streaming a tv show to keep itself entertained until it had to ring the alarm!
It's happened again just now (a couple of minutes ago) and as soon as I get a USB cable, I'll transfer the log onto here. Hopefully someone can figure out the problem.
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Well, usually I'm not too concerned about data limits because my monthly limit is 300MB, more than acceptable for a phone, in my opinion. However, how can an idle phone sync text-based data up to a size of 250MB? It's like my phone was streaming a tv show to keep itself entertained until it had to ring the alarm!
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Then you must have installed an app which is using more data then you are aware of. Either try uninstalling unwanted apps or use an app that blocks internet access (I think one of them is droid firewall something, and I think autostarts does this too. check for yourself).

[Q] Constant background data since ics

Hi, I have had my note (gt-n7000, all stock, not rooted) since December and have kept an eye on my data usage using data counter widget and NetTraffic widget. On gingerbread everything was fine, very little background data, monthly usage well below 100MB (I'm on wi-fi 90% of the time), my battery usage was not great but no cause for concern at 8-10 hours standby.
Since the update to ics I have had battery issues, 4-5 hours standby max and I think this is caused by a constant 1kb/s connection every second. I have somehow managed too use 150MB in 10 days without even using my phone on 3g (standby only for average.... 1 hour a day!? ish). The phone doesn't get as hot as it did when ics first installed.
Onavo said Facebook was using high data so I have uninstalled it to test. RadioOpt Traffic monitor 4.1 shows "System Traffic" as extremely high.
I have tried:
Rebooting the phone.
Killing tasks/clearing memory.
Force stopping every process to see if that would identify the app/service causing the extra background data.
Disable sync.
Disable Samsung account.
Uninstalled Samsung push service.
Launch TWlauncher and remove all widgets and pages, I run ssLauncher.
I hadn't noticed the data usage when I first installed ics, it was a probably a week before I did. I don't think I have many new apps that would do this although something may have changed when an app updated.. but then wouldn't that show up in Onavo?
Does anyone know of any apps (non-root) that will give me detailed network information? ip addresses/domains attached too and What apps are currently connected?
Has anyone else noticed the same issue? I did search the forum before posting so doubt it.
LBE Privacy Guard can give you detailed info as to the data being used by each app but I'm not sure it's much better than the info ICS gives you when you go to settings / data usage.
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LBE was useful thanks, I have used it to identify 3D flip clock as one application using a lot more data than it should. After uninstalling my data usage has improved. May have just been a bad install or a faulty update.
I'm now wondering why "voice talk" is using so much, especially as I don't use it and every time it asks me "what would you like to do?" I tell it to uninstall itself but nothing happens. is there anything I can do to disable it?
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LBE was useful thanks, I have used it to identify 3D flip clock as one application using a lot more data than it should. After uninstalling my data usage has improved. May have just been a bad install or a faulty update.
I'm now wondering why "voice talk" is using so much, especially as I don't use it and every time it asks me "what would you like to do?" I tell it to uninstall itself but nothing happens. is there anything I can do to disable it?
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Go to settings>applications click the "all" tab and there you can scroll down and locate voice talk. Click on it and then you get several options. One of them should be to disable it.
Great thanks

2 issues

I just noticed these issues today usage no different from the past weeks. 1st is I noticed battery drained really quickly with no indication. 2nd is music the equilizer would not work. Idk if the 2nd one deals with the whole ram management issue but it does come back and it's like it's turned half way down
Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
jeff_roey said:
Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
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Also, use an automation app such as Tasker to control syncing, wifi, etc.
Yea it didn't die on me today which is good. Will try that tasker
My biggest battery drain was with Google wallet, specifically the NFC Tap & Pay. It's almost as if the Wallet app gets an exclusive hold on the NFC radio & doesn't let go... Finally had to just turn off the NFC radio & the battery drain is much better. .
I have a 300mbps DL and 20+ upload and a 5ghz modem. My s5 has no problem showing 100-200mbps on the speed test app, but my s6 is barely hitting 80mbps. But in real life situations its less then 1mbps. There will be long periods of time for Pandora to load the next song without skipping as well as overall growing the internet is slow. I'm outside my 14 days so I'm hoping its a bug. And that damned screen rotation issue.... My battery has been stellar. But I don't text much or make too many calls from it.

Help identify rogue data usage

Over the last few hours, according to the built in mobile data usage meter, android OS has used nearly 1GB of data and keeps climbing after rebooting. In a normal month android OS doesn't even appear in the list of things that use data. Is there a way of identifying precisely what has gone rogue and deal with it. This is the second time in several months this has happened. Obviously if this keeps happening I'm going to get hit with overage charges for data. But I don't even know where to begin looking to identify the cause. Thank you for any assistance you can offer.
StoneRyno said:
Over the last few hours, according to the built in mobile data usage meter, android OS has used nearly 1GB of data and keeps climbing after rebooting. In a normal month android OS doesn't even appear in the list of things that use data. Is there a way of identifying precisely what has gone rogue and deal with it. This is the second time in several months this has happened. Obviously if this keeps happening I'm going to get hit with overage charges for data. But I don't even know where to begin looking to identify the cause. Thank you for any assistance you can offer.
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Try this. Go to settings > backup and reset, and then turn off everything under google backup.
StoneRyno said:
Over the last few hours, according to the built in mobile data usage meter, android OS has used nearly 1GB of data and keeps climbing after rebooting. In a normal month android OS doesn't even appear in the list of things that use data. Is there a way of identifying precisely what has gone rogue and deal with it. This is the second time in several months this has happened. Obviously if this keeps happening I'm going to get hit with overage charges for data. But I don't even know where to begin looking to identify the cause. Thank you for any assistance you can offer.
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I got a similar thread in the g4 q a. Restrict background data. if ure like me use exposed look for module or in post for link to disable the restr data notifacation. I am try to figure this one out my os uses ridiculus amounts of data and i do not have any syncs or backups that run. The restrict. Seems to have stopped it but some apps wont work properly. For say i use flip clock widget and weather wont update unless i turn off restriction. We have a few looking into this i get 1.5 gigs of data a month and 80% is used by os
For me, Android OS is my biggest data hog, more than Chrome and Maps. I am interested in whether anyone can pinpoint the part of the phone using so much mobile data.
But more important question, why does Android hide specifics from us? What is the point of hiding all the details under the umbrella term "Android OS"? It would be awesome if we could see a breakdown of what components make up the total, so we could see whether something was acting up.
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For me, Android OS is my biggest data hog, more than Chrome and Maps. I am interested in whether anyone can pinpoint the part of the phone using so much mobile data.
But more important question, why does Android hide specifics from us? What is the point of hiding all the details under the umbrella term "Android OS"? It would be awesome if we could see a breakdown of what components make up the total, so we could see whether something was acting up.
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Thats what im working on. Like i said ive almost eliminated it with restricted data but thats just a bandaid. Mine was fine till about a month ago or so and went nuts using data
lg g4 uses data secretly.. :S i am on zv6, even time i clear cache, it download software update secretly, even after disabling all the apk which are responsible for lg g4 upgrade. upgrade notification on lg g4 is sent by Google Play services, not an OTA apk message. I have to disable notifications from google play services or system upgrade message won't go..
so everytime we clear cache, it wil download system upgrade without your acknowedgement, no matter you are on 3g or 4g or wifi... and it wont even show upgrade notification if cause we turned it off..
i made a dummy update.zip and immutable it. everytime i clear cache i do that first.. now i dont see any rogue usage of data..

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