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visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
some comments on what you guys think about it would be nice lol
That is a powerfull homescreen plugin!!
Love it!!
I take it you are on about their product "X-Cube". Sadly, it's the product with the least amount of information. The O2 Active UI is also available on there (and seems to be free). Last time I used that was on my wizard where I removed it asap because it didn't appear able to cope.
I wonder if my Kaiser would manage it.
Good find!
yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser
fidly
can't really knock it as its be best i've seen bar htc's own. its not really clear enough fr me what each of the buttons do or mean. if its not intuitive then i can't recommend. it looks great and feels initially like you should love it however after5mins of working it i'm back to my htc home. sadly...
Love it, check this :
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yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser
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Which one? I tried the one labelled "V2R Active UI v1.0" and it was a bit crappy, I had a whole pile of free things already which were better.
The one labelled Active UI Multitouch (which is shown in the picture above) had issues (praise be for safe mode) on my Kaiser, but I am guessing it is something to do with the fact that I don't use WMP and I have Mobile Shell installed.
I was hoping for something similar to the O2 Active UI which they are showcasing here -
http://www.v2r.ag/showcase/
I probably ought to go yoink the cab off my Wizard when I see my Dad next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360941
well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway
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well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway
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These guys had kinetic scrolling on the today screen before everybody else,they just never improved on the friction which made it too slow to make a splash.Then they sell you icons at this day and age.They obviously took a few tips from Apple.
This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs
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This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs
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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.
HAHAHA considering I have spoken to members of this company in my job WORKING INTERNALLY FOR ORANGE I think youjust made a redundant comment there my good ol' chap
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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.
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Whoa Mr. Jobs Calm down.
pretty cool
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visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.
P996 said:
Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.
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Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
livefastdiefun87 said:
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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This product is pretty crappy and slow compared to a lot others out there. I also had problems removing Point UI from my device... yuck.
It was slow to respond, setup was very frustrating and not very intuitive, programs are hard to find and difficult to sort through... No real improvements and it limits viewable area a lot with the "touch to open" feature taking up a big portion of the screen. If you want something like this I would go with Ultimate Launch or SPB Mobile Shell.
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Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
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I mainly use(and develop) Microsoft Windows products, even if I'm a registered member of the Apple Developer Network.
Not sure what you're trying to imply but following your twisted reality, Bill Gates stole Windows from Big Blue...well...he paid a couple of bucks for it.
Anyway, I'm still not sure what you're trying to say but one thing is for sure: Apple DID NOT outsource iPhone GUI development, this is a FACT and you can rant about it all day long, it doesn't change the truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBNu6WMfR1k
i def want that!!!
yess please
Surprised it took this long lol
Needs size, color and firmness sliders
That would be SO Weird Science!
oh man someone better port this over!! lol
oh damn! I want it! :O
damn, why my wife is there? lol
Very nice!
nice!! a cool thing to do is that if you shake it too hard, her boob do pop out!! hehehe
You know ... this illustrates a great opportunity that could seize some momentum back to the WM side of the force, should anyone have the wherewithal...
There is huge demand for this and apps like it, however Apple is pulling a "Betamax" and restricting certain types of applications. That is the one big flaw in the App Store paradigm and one that could be exploited to WM's (or other OS') benefit.
It's up to us as advocates to point out this flaw, and up to talented programmer to provide the apps which we could point to and say, hey check it out. WM doesn't have any company deciding what you should and shouldn't be able to run on your device.
Bump!!!!!!!!
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hahahaha this would probably sit in my favorites for a long time
i bump this thread with a pelvic thrust.
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You know ... this illustrates a great opportunity that could seize some momentum back to the WM side of the force, should anyone have the wherewithal...
There is huge demand for this and apps like it, however Apple is pulling a "Betamax" and restricting certain types of applications. That is the one big flaw in the App Store paradigm and one that could be exploited to WM's (or other OS') benefit.
It's up to us as advocates to point out this flaw, and up to talented programmer to provide the apps which we could point to and say, hey check it out. WM doesn't have any company deciding what you should and shouldn't be able to run on your device.
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This has always been where WM shines... I dont want some hob nobs in Cupertino restricting content I want to see, use. I'm suprised they weren't bold enough to globally start banning "inappropriate" sites from Safari.
Everyone should support the dev of a universal WM marketplace where apps can be compiled and be easily managed.. WM apps are too scattered to find and should be sent through a "cab/beta sweep" to provide some consumer protections.. This market would be an optional portal for apps, not mandatory, but a point system tied to X-Box live could add some spice to luring users to install.
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This has always been where WM shines... I dont want some hob nobs in Cupertino restricting content I want to see, use. I'm suprised they weren't bold enough to globally start banning "inappropriate" sites from Safari.
Everyone should support the dev of a universal WM marketplace where apps can be compiled and be easily managed.. WM apps are too scattered to find and should be sent through a "cab/beta sweep" to provide some consumer protections.. This market would be an optional portal for apps, not mandatory, but a point system tied to X-Box live could add some spice to luring users to install.
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look up gecko. the newest beta just came out theres only like 15 apps at the moment but hes trying to make it just like the appstore is
I do wonder, however, why WM doesn't seem to have the developer base to be proactively coming out with apps like this and others, whereas iPhone is fairly overflowing.
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I do wonder, however, why WM doesn't seem to have the developer base to be proactively coming out with apps like this and others, whereas iPhone is fairly overflowing.
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because macs are perfect for moviemaking and boob shaking apps duh
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because macs are perfect for moviemaking and boob shaking apps duh
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Hah
It is a honest question though. Why does one platform seem to have an excess of talented programmers working on cool -- if useless -- stuff, while another cannot seem to muster the manpower for cool.
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Hah
It is a honest question though. Why does one platform seem to have an excess of talented programmers working on cool -- if useless -- stuff, while another cannot seem to muster the manpower for cool.
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Its all about the hardware... With Iphone its 1 piece of hardware to develop.. WM = hundreds of devices, so programs don't pass the grade for every model.. What would be good would be a marketplace that simply filters the programs based on the device. I hope gecko takes that approach as it expands into a full function platform.
hump....I mean bump
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hump....I mean bump
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I don't think bumping it up will help the software to get to the Touch Pro any time soon.
Sheesh! Google has a history that is completely obscure to the general public. Apple says Android's Rubin worked for them in the '90s. APIs are a product of Apple, according to what they are saying.
http://gizmodo.com/5837045/apple-claims-android-started-with-them
Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now? Hopefully the judge is knowledgeable enough to sift thru what is real or not. Judge is a judge and not an engineer, so I doubt he's written code before. I myself don't know enough about APIs in question to comment this.
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Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
So, I drink Pepsi and Coke. Off brands sometimes too.
Lol whats next? They really want to shut android down
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Apple seems really desperate at this point to try to put a road block on Androids success.
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rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7
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Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now?
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Apple is desperate. Their attempts to litigate Android products from the market are not working. So even if it probably really is just smoke and PR maneuvers with nothing substantial behind it, in their desperation Apple will do anything.
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Another thing. The CEO of Google held a seat on Apple Board of Directors for a long time.
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Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?
z33dev33l said:
rooting for apple as it will just open up the market for wp7
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Nice try on stirring up the pot. WP7 is nothing, will never be anything. Look at how terrible it is doing in this market. Apple and Google will continue to claw it out in phone sales while Microsoft sits on the sidelines. None of the general public goes into a best buy or at&t looking for a WP7, nor will they walk out with one. They want a cool looking OS and phone and some variety to choose from. Not some bleak tiles invented by a first grade class.
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Yeah, and? Are you accusing him of corporate espionage?
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You didn't quote my whole statement.
Its obviously desperate times at Apple. Especially if there really is no iPhone 5. OR especially if there is a iPhone 5 but it looks like a GSII.
Apple must be really going down hill.
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why apple always sue every they competitor?? they're can't make more innovation ??
This happens with Steve Jobs .
Tim Cook never made a difference .
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Google! wins ya
Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
AlterJack said:
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?
AlterJack said:
Remember Skynet? Google's eating the world, a little bit at a time.
I think Apple will burn out and fade away, because Android's main target is us: the open-sourced, geeky, "I NEED TO MODIFY AND LIBERATE MY SMARTPHONE" community. Now, dish that out versus the aesthetically perfect society over at Apple. Yes, they have a lot of apps. So do we. I can see it on the breaking news:
"Google buys Apple's R&D mobile department"
"WhatsApp, Inc. starts negotiations with search giant Google"
"Nokia is taken aboard by Google"
When that happens, (without going off-topic and trying to prove my point), Google will dominate and Android will be everything we'll see.
But, anything might happen, who I am to know?
PS: Ironically, Android's builds are named after desserts.
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Skynet actually exists though, it's currently under British military control.
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Wich is the main reason I use it.. Who doesnt love dessert?
Apple is trying to buy them self some time, they have wasted alot of hours making lawsuits against every other competitor... Wich leaves them behind
And I would like to see an iPhone with android, Google join in to say, U mad bro?
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Now that would be sweet! A fantastic thing, for sure. The goodness of Android mixed with the superior hardware and build quality of Apple.
Even more than that, let Apple adopt Android and finesse and smooth it out to their higher standards. What an overwhelming affair.
Sorry, but what superior hardware and quality? Don't drink the kool aid.
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Possibly more smoke from Apple. Why bring this up now?
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Bring it up now after Google bought Motorolla so now they have their own phone brand with nothing useful to put on it. Just a thought.
google all day!!!!!!!!!!!
Source: http://www.infoworld.com/t/intellec...lock-patent-stomp-android-or-windows-8-177178
You might think that at least two features in Microsoft's Windows 8 Developer Preview may come perilously close to infringing on Apple's "Slide to Unlock" patent.
As currently constituted, the Windows 8 Lock Screen requires a slide -- from bottom to top -- to reveal the logon screen. And the optional Windows 8 picture password feature (the subject of its own Microsoft trademark filing) requires the user to define and repeat a pattern of three touches on the screen.
You might also think that every slide-to-unlock Android device manufacturer would be quaking in lead-lined boots, with Apple's lawyers poised to shoot down their unlock screens.
It doesn't take a team of patent lawyers to see similarities between Windows 8's swipe-up-to-unlock and touch-to-log-on gestures, and Apple's unlock shtick. But do either infringe on Apple's patent? Every Android device starts with a swipe, but was Apple first to the mark? Take a closer look.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted Patent 7,657,849 (alternate source) to Apple on Feb. 2, 2010. Shortly thereafter, Apple sued HTC for its slide-to-unlock transgressions. USPTO granted a very similar patent to Apple, number 8,046,721, on Oct. 25, 2011.
Here's the abstract for the first Apple patent, issued almost two years ago:
A device with a touch-sensitive display may be unlocked via gestures performed on the touch-sensitive display. The device is unlocked if contact with the display corresponds to a predefined gesture for unlocking the device. The device displays one or more unlock images with respect to which the predefined gesture is to be performed in order to unlock the device. The performance of the predefined gesture with respect to the unlock image may include moving the unlock image to a predefined location and/or moving the unlock image along a predefined path. The device may also display visual cues of the predefined gesture on the touch screen to remind a user of the gesture.
The abstract for the second Apple patent, the one issued yesterday, is identical to the earlier patent, except it includes one more sentence at the end: "In addition, there is a need for sensory feedback to the user regarding progress towards satisfaction of a user input condition that is required for the transition to occur." The older patent is listed as a parent case.
As the 9to5Mac site explains, the Neonode N1m phone had a slide-to-unlock feature that predated the first Apple patent by more than a year. "Interestingly," the site says, "a Dutch court ruled that the slide to unlock patent was invalid because of this very device." Indeed.
Take a look at tnkgrl's ancient video review of the N1m at around 4:15 into the clip. See how the N1m implemented a left-to-right unlock swipe? Of course, Apple would argue that the N1m swipe doesn't include "sensory feedback to the user regarding progress." Perhaps that's why Apple filed the second patent.
American courts aren't held to Dutch precedents, but whatever sanity prevailed in the Netherlands should hold some sway on this side of the Atlantic. It's hard to believe that Apple could sandbag Android on swipe to unlock, thanks to the N1m.
As for the Windows 8 speculation, while patents are subject to interpretation in ways that defy gravity, if not logic, the dozen-or-so dense pages of description in the two Apple patents appear to let Windows 8 off the hook. The pertinent "claim" involves:
...detecting a contact with the touch-sensitive display at a first predefined location corresponding to an unlock image; continuously moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display in accordance with movement of the contact while continuous contact with the touch screen is maintained, wherein the unlock image is a graphical, interactive user-interface object with which a user interacts in order to unlock the device; and unlocking the hand-held electronic device if the moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display results in movement of the unlock image from the first predefined location to a predefined unlock region on the touch-sensitive display.
While the Abstract doesn't delve into the meaning of an "unlock image," this claim in the patents makes it clear that Apple's patented process only applies to dragging a bunch of predefined pixels across the screen. Neither the Windows 8 lock screen nor the picture password feature require the user to drag an image across the screen.
It looks like Windows 8 dodged the bullet -- this time.
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Anyone into the lockscreen development realm needs to be mindful of this, if they don't want to be sued.
The US patent system is FUBAR. I despise the ability to patent such a generic ability. Especially when it existed in other areas first.
Love apple hardware (best trackpad in the business, bar none) but I really dislike the legal/patent shenanigans.
ahh... no problem
slide 2 unlock is sooooo old school
we got Face Unlock from ICS
and 1 touch unlock from CM
and WiFi unlock from 3rd party apps
and... soooooo much more options in market
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The US patent system is FUBAR. I despise the ability to patent such a generic ability. Especially when it existed in other areas first.
Love apple hardware (best trackpad in the business, bar none) but I really dislike the legal/patent shenanigans.
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Not just the generic ability, but it's open source they're trying to patent parts of. Android functions under GPL for the most part. GOD I hate Apple with such an indescribable passion!!!
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Not just the generic ability, but it's open source they're trying to patent parts of. Android functions under GPL for the most part. GOD I hate Apple with such an indescribable passion!!!
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+1
they are ridiculous. pissed that a superior class of devices designed for a wider variety of users with a wider variety of income is outselling their overpriced and "on lockdown" garbage.
but hey, whatever let's make the consumers pay for it.
screw apple.
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they are ridiculous. pissed that a superior class of devices designed for a wider variety of users with a wider variety of income is outselling their overpriced and "on lockdown" garbage.
but hey, whatever let's make the consumers pay for it.
screw apple.
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Yeah Apple sucks. Their controls and locks are pretty stupid too. It limits functionality like crazy. Then they come in and try and force everyone to use their inferior product. I seriously hope they get sued for antitrust.
And the worst of it is, this is not even Apple's "invention": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0 (seek to 4:00)
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And the worst of it is, this is not even Apple's "invention": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0 (seek to 4:00)
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Wow, that's interesting...
+1
Outstanding!
I want one!
Customized version of WinCE
full spec http://www.gsmarena.com/neonode_n1m-1137.php
from 2005 wow!
This doesn't have to be a problem for Google. All they have to do is, first of all after making Android legal, simply license the slide-to-unlock property of Apple.
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This doesn't have to be a problem for Google. All they have to do is, first of all after making Android legal, simply license the slide-to-unlock property of Apple.
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The point is, they shouldn't have to worry about that crap.
I believe the patent in question actually specifies a full slide where you actually have to slide your finger clear from one side of the locking mechanism to the other. If a flick gesture achieves the same end it is not in violation of said patent. I've never slid my thumb even halfway up the screen.
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Outstanding!
I want one!
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Neat little device, isn't it? I want one too!
Not very flexible though, not even java. And who knows how much the browser is capable of. But who cares, it's a really, really neat little thingy!
Damn thats annoying, i like apple's products but man they behave like such arrogant irritating f#cks, it just puts me off completely.
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The point is, they shouldn't have to worry about that crap.
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Well, it's really easy to avoid infringing this Apple technology, simply go back to what was being used before the iPhone's slide-unlock feature appeared: Tapping an unlock button.
MartyLK said:
Well, it's really easy to avoid infringing this Apple technology, simply go back to what was being used before the iPhone's slide-unlock feature appeared: Tapping an unlock button.
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Perhaps you should watch the N1m video. Your timeline appears to be skewed.
On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.
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On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.
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Good for them? What exactly do you think the patent system is for?
The slide to unlock patent has already been ruled invalid in Europe.
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On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.
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Patenting things invented by others is ridiculous and should not be possible. A patent should only be able to go to the actual inventor. If the inventor foregoes that option it should automatically be public domain. Biotech companies pull the same BS they patent genetic strains cultivated for hundreds of years by farmers and then tell them they have to pay to use it.
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Patenting things invented by others is ridiculous and should not be possible. A patent should only be able to go to the actual inventor. If the inventor foregoes that option it should automatically be public domain. Biotech companies pull the same BS they patent genetic strains cultivated for hundreds of years by farmers and then tell them they have to pay to use it.
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Well, the first time I ever saw a "slide-to-unlock" feature was on the first iPhone. And I've been around a long time.
This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
Thanks
Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....
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Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....
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Yea thats true.. Although I am sure there's still someone who doesn't know it and would like to stay away from powering up a company that plans to capitalize and get in control of everything.
A clear message needs to be sent...
i really don't know what apple is trying to do, sueing all the world.. maybe next will be eve cause she bit an apple???
by the way, reading everything is good to know HTC, and maybe Google already have a solution for this patent infrigments, so the android user experience will always be better than iphonish one...
I see no reason for either panic or concern. First of all, look at the range of devices affected: v1.6 - v2.2 You can't even purchase new HTC device with Froyo or older OS. Second, HTC already responded that they do have a workaround in the pipeline that would diminish all claims Apple's suit made.
Take a step back and try to look at the bigger picture. Ask yourself, why is Apple suing Samsung, HTC, etc? My theory is very simple; Apple's runaway success ran out of steam and they losing ground to Android quicker then Apple engineers are able to put together a new product. Earlier today Andy Rubin bragged about 700,000 daily activations. Simply put, Apple is scared of competition. Nay, they are scared ****less. Since they can't compete by innovating they choose to fight by litigating.
If there is one thing I have agreed with Jobs on, was his musing that "market will sort everything out". It looks like market already did just that and the new is not good for Apple, hence the lawsuits.
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This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
Thanks
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I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.
AnyMal said:
Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.
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How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?
MartyLK said:
I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..
Apple business model will fail not now but in the future. What apple is trying to do is to stall it in a way. They already knew sole proprietary will fail, they almost went under at the start..
Steve jobs started a vendetta againts the android os. This is common knowledge. He got mad that someone in his company said NO left and made a product just as good.
My thing is how and why would apple try to sue something that isnt even their os. Thats like microsoft suing apple for a double click to open a file. Or adobe suing java, its childish.
Or ford suing all car manufacturers for having a break pedal.
Noting was stolen, apple has its own OS and android has theirs.
In my opinion suing for how a devices behaves. Its stupid dumb and im surprised the judges havent said that.
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Segnale007 said:
Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..
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And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
MartyLK said:
And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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So did they "license" the android style notification dropdown in IOS5? And did they license the slide to unlock feature that they got a patent for?
MartyLK said:
And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.
AnyMal said:
You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.
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You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.
Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Funny how he completely ignores my post.
varun.singh286 said:
Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Typical. People who hate Apple focus on one tiny little thing they do and ignore the mountain of violations the other companies have been doing against Apple for years.
And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.
MartyLK said:
You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.
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Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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sooyong94 said:
Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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Sorry to enrage you and make you be a false witness. All that I said, I said with calmness and rationality. What you read into it, you read from your own emotions. So, my apologies for controlling your emotions and making you do something against your will.
MartyLK said:
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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LOOOOOOOL. I didn't even need to click on that, it's in the link itself: "ignores prior art". So yeah, Apple owns. They own things they didn't actually invent! Awesome! Not!
MartyLK said:
How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?
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This is the typical Apple fan mode of operation:
Apple Fan: "Apple invented all this stuff!!"
Someone: "Err, no they didn't. There was this, that and the other stuff, which Apple copied."
Apple Fan: "Yeah, well, Apple owns the patents!!"
Suddenly it's not important anymore that Apple hasn't invented anything. And they're completely oblivious how what this does is point to the brokenness of the patent system, as opposed to pointing to the supposed brilliance of Apple.
MartyLK said:
And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.
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But, but, but... I thought Apple is this brilliant inventor! Now you're telling me that the biggest "revolution" of IOS5 wasn't invented by Apple? How's that work?