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iOS 5 - Annoys Me.

So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on .. edited this...
Wait, so... are all of the developers going to have to redo their apps to work on iOS 5... since it didnt have this notification bar earlier? Fragmentation?
I hate that the notification bar looks so good on iOS 5. Hate it, but you have to admit they made it better looking.
Moved this to my new Blog. If only I had this created before I made this rant.

Are details released already?
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s15274n said:
So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on the #*&% of Steve Jobs.
So annoyed.
Sorry.. not appropriate, had to vent.
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I know dude, they're basically taking everything we have, and even stuff from cydia!
I take it your watching the live stream also?

they even copied our vissual unlock thingy

Wow I was just reading about it. They are definitely copying a lot of things android has. Notification center??? Come on that's all android. Taking pictures with the volume button? Wow. Apple needs to stop taking android features and stick to ios crap..
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I really hope Jobs gets sued. I hate him with a passion.

How can they be suing companies (samsung) for not being innovative/taking their ideas... and be on stage introducing iOS5 as the latest/greatest when these feature are 3 years old on Android?

I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?

Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.

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Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.
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xD
I mean, I have no problem with them having a ton of features that we have already, they need to learn that Android is superior, but the fact that Apple acts like they JUST came up with it is what pisses me off.

Well just saw and its nice to know that Apple is reintroducing android 1.5...

"sometimes to innovate, you have to copy."
-actual Gizmodo quote

They have been doing this for years! I remember back when iPhone first came out and they acted like web and email on your phone was a new thing. I had been doing it on Windows Mobile for years.

Am i missing something? No widgets???
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hahah its nice to know jobs running out of ideas....someone suggest him to make an
iAndroid app.....for easy access to android goodies....

On the brightside guys....ppl with iCrap can now actually be a tad happier. Imagine what it would be like if you were stuck wint iCrap and didn't have notifications and ppl you knew had that on Android. It felt almost as if you didn't have a smartphone.
Give them some slack.

Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.

Longcat14 said:
I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?
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...wait Microsoft gets money from HTC?

degeneration said:
Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.
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Apple sued Samsung for a couple of logos, and the box around the logos(app drawer), basically. LOL

I am wondering how an OS that is "open source" and thrives on expansion and adaptation can sue anybody for taking a "feature" that is on just about everything. I think the sue'ing game has gotten way out of hand. Just make make your shot and if people want it they will buy it....
Oh and on another note. As far as re-introducing Android 1.5 features, I think they are just going to perfect it like they have most of their other stuff.
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Well Well Well ..... this is funny..!

Apple needs a tissue...
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Cries+About+Samsung+and+Motorolas+Patent+Monopoly/article22586.htm

I really had nothing against apple until they started all these lawsuits. Now I have decided that apple is everything that's wrong with america, and Steve Jobs might be the antichrist (yes, I know he stepped down as CEO but that just frees him up for other douchery).

ive never liked their "my way or the highway attitude"...this patent war is just plain out of hand.

Apple crying foul about patent lawsuits? How ironic

"Apple Claims Android Phone makers are "Abusing" Patent System"
Is this a f***ing joke?!

iynfynity said:
"Apple Claims Android Phone makers are "Abusing" Patent System"
Is this a f***ing joke?!
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Nope .... that's their claim " it's not us ,it's them "....

typical of Apple....they make small stuff into something epic

There is nothing small about this "patent war". Someone is going to get hurt or killed in this...
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is this real life?
why isn't macrumors discussing this? I want to see what the apple fanatics have to say about this

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Nope .... that's their claim " it's not us ,it's them "....
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Exactly, apple is the last company in the world that should claim such thing!
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Ha! thats interesting.

How many of you remember this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxnWUbJJnlE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I think it was just before the G1 started to ship ... cause I remember seeing this after I did my pre-order.. Funny thing is that was the Pandora guy saying Android was not a factor., but since then, both Pandora and last fm has had to upgrade their servers to accommodate the heavy traffic they were facing after their android app was launched ..

Goal in life was to make Steve Jobs resign and I WON!

The Patent System is full of bull****.
I say we recreate the whole ****ing system.
oh and... **** apple.

bfranklin1986 said:
I really had nothing against apple until they started all these lawsuits. Now I have decided that apple is everything that's wrong with america, and Steve Jobs might be the antichrist (yes, I know he stepped down as CEO but that just frees him up for other douchery).
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I am opposed to patent lawsuits due to it being a far too lax, broad, and generally bs system in the US as it concerns technology patents. But Apple deserves every lawsuit filed against. I have had something against Apple ever since they decided to make their company a cult of personality around Steve Jobs and Apple. They want to play holier than thou in court? Then they should put up with the other side rolling up their sleeves and fighting back.
Complaining about anticompetitiveness. PAH. They just forced Samsung to stop selling Galaxy Tabs entirely in Europe through bs patent fighting. Apple deserves every single case filed against it.

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I am opposed to patent lawsuits due to it being a far too lax, broad, and generally bs system in the US as it concerns technology patents. But Apple deserves every lawsuit filed against. I have had something against Apple ever since they decided to make their company a cult of personality around Steve Jobs and Apple. They want to play holier than thou in court? Then they should put up with the other side rolling up their sleeves and fighting back.
Complaining about anticompetitiveness. PAH. They just forced Samsung to stop selling Galaxy Tabs entirely in Europe through bs patent fighting. Apple deserves every single case filed against it.
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Actually Samsung won the cases in Europe, but the press twisted it to seem like a victory for apple ...
www.muktware.com/blogs/2401
Even the one in German courts were won, the judge threw out all but one of the suits, patents for scrolling in the gallery app, was the only one that held up ... so Samsung was given time to fix it ..
Here's another link
www.muktware.com/blogs/2396

Hi I just wanted to join the conversation and give my 2 cents................**** you Apple ....feels nice
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The video linked at the end of that article is truly a classic.. great artists steal eh? http://youtu.be/CW0DUg63lqU

What android Fans Think of Apple Fans??

Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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Each to there own I honesty don't care unless there being a bit*h
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To me there is nothing wrong with being an apple fan. The issues I have see with the ones that don't know why they support apple, the ones that tell me an iPod is better simply because its an iPod. As long as somebody can logically explain to me why they support the products they use I won't complain. Unfortunately there are ignorant blind fanboys in every group.
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I'm actually thinking of getting an iPhone 4S. Its so pretty.
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IRL, I have no problem with iPhone users (although I laugh in disdain whenever they dare whip out their phones near me), nor do I have any particular fondness of Android users (although 99% of them treat me as a cyber-freak when it comes to Android).
What I have problem with are haters and fanboys alike. Your insecurity is showing, and it is showing very strongly.

I don't hate apple or there fans unless like max said there being bitc*hes.
But i do prefer android as its more windows mobile like as being able to customize every little aspect of it.
I do have a 64gb ipod touch 4g as it has tons of space just for my music plus has apps that android doesnt.
I think u need best of both worlds.
Just i prefer android as my one that i take everywhere whereas i don't want an iphone cause its an ipod touch with a phone.

I've actually recommended Apple products to some people. They serve a purpsoe. Some people do better with things that are simple and corralled. There's nothing wrong with that.

I generally don't mind Apple fans unless they start telling me I should buy an iPhone just because its an iPhone.

Yeah, i think apple fans are those who are mad.

My aunt has an iPhone and tried it, overrated phone. period. . Honestly, I love my Dell Venue!

muerteman said:
The issues I have see with the ones that don't know why they support apple, the ones that tell me an iPod is better simply because its an iPod. As long as somebody can logically explain to me why they support the products they use I won't complain.
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QFT. almost no apple user can do this though, which is why i have such a low opinion of them.
EDIT: lemme amend that. almost no apple user can do that WITH VALID REASONS.

The thing that bugs me about most iPhone users and iPhone fans that I know, is that they are so oblivious to everything else and don't know anything about technology. For example: I'm in school and people start talking about iPhone 4s. Then people are like there's nothing different about it! And someone else is all yes its faster! And they don't even know the difference between dual core and single core. They think that because it is a product of apple that automatically its the latest and greatest advancements in technology when it is clear to users like us that they are simply playing catch-up. It just irritates me that people hype it up so much when they are so uneducated in the technology field. I will give them that it is very aesthetically appealing and that the UI does give it a very polished high quality speedy feeling device. I also wish that we had the dev support in our market that the app store does.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
I'm actually thinking of getting an iPhone 4S. Its so pretty.
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Alanrocks????
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bcryQUuDwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lol!!! Seriously I laughed my ass off when I saw this. Though, I know that not all iPhone owners are like this.
I have a buddy that had the 3g, hated it for a couple reasons. Then decided to get a Samsung Android phone through ATT. That drove him back to Apple. The primary reason was that the phone it self was horrible. And I agreed with him. I have a bit of a disdain for Samsung products. I have owned some my self, and was more than dissatisfied with there performances.
He also claimed that ios was easier to use. I disagreed with that. But, who am I to say what anybody's comprehension level is of anything. Personally, I find both Android and ios very easy to navigate and use. But hey, if the iPhone was easier for him to use. Then by golly I hope he is happy with it. To each there own.
I simply like the fact that Android is open source and that there is a pretty decent community of there for us. But, just like ios users. There are people that are idiots in here also. Hell I can't ever claim to be 100% not an idiot. But, I am learning still. That what it comes down to. Always be willing to learn and be humble about what you think you know. Because therewith always be some one out there that will trump some of your knowledge.
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Well I have both. I love my Android... very much. But on the other hand I really enjoy my iPhone as well. Not just because of the apps but also because I am a huge fan of my MacBook and I couldn't do anything without it. It just looks good and that is a very important factor for me.

Jaytronics said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bcryQUuDwM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lol!!! Seriously I laughed my ass off when I saw this. Though, I know that not all iPhone owners are like this.
I have a buddy that had the 3g, hated it for a couple reasons. Then decided to get a Samsung Android phone through ATT. That drove him back to Apple. The primary reason was that the phone it self was horrible. And I agreed with him. I have a bit of a disdain for Samsung products. I have owned some my self, and was more than dissatisfied with there performances.
He also claimed that ios was easier to use. I disagreed with that. But, who am I to say what anybody's comprehension level is of anything. Personally, I find both Android and ios very easy to navigate and use. But hey, if the iPhone was easier for him to use. Then by golly I hope he is happy with it. To each there own.
I simply like the fact that Android is open source and that there is a pretty decent community of there for us. But, just like ios users. There are people that are idiots in here also. Hell I can't ever claim to be 100% not an idiot. But, I am learning still. That what it comes down to. Always be willing to learn and be humble about what you think you know. Because therewith always be some one out there that will trump some of your knowledge.
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xD that video captures the attitude and tech knowledge of 98% of iPhone users PERFECTLY
hence my disdain for any iOS device.

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Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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It is a pretty accurate description for sure, im not a fanboy nor will i ever be one but id definitely always choose Android every time over anything especially IOS.

BlackRose 22 said:
Quoted:"iPhone fanboys are status-seeking, ignorant sheep brainwashed by Apple marketing, according to some Android users. Is that view accurate"? Is some sense hit the source link to get the full article before you comment its pretty good. One of the best I've read in awhile unbiased and etc.
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Agreed. They are very brainwashed by technology from Apple even if it existed years ago.
Oh, and can I borrow that quote to make my signature?

iPhones and iPads make non-tech people feel techie. Real techies know the difference.
The end.
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Archer said:
iPhones and iPads make non-tech people feel techie. Real techies know the difference.
The end.
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Agreed, I think most Apple people are sheeple, simply following the crowd. Or should I say following Apple marketing...
That's not to say that an iPhone is a bad device, I think it does have its good points, I just think there are better phones out there.

We should let everyone know what shame Apple is doing

This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
Thanks

Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....

Skv012a said:
Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....
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Yea thats true.. Although I am sure there's still someone who doesn't know it and would like to stay away from powering up a company that plans to capitalize and get in control of everything.
A clear message needs to be sent...

i really don't know what apple is trying to do, sueing all the world.. maybe next will be eve cause she bit an apple???
by the way, reading everything is good to know HTC, and maybe Google already have a solution for this patent infrigments, so the android user experience will always be better than iphonish one...

I see no reason for either panic or concern. First of all, look at the range of devices affected: v1.6 - v2.2 You can't even purchase new HTC device with Froyo or older OS. Second, HTC already responded that they do have a workaround in the pipeline that would diminish all claims Apple's suit made.
Take a step back and try to look at the bigger picture. Ask yourself, why is Apple suing Samsung, HTC, etc? My theory is very simple; Apple's runaway success ran out of steam and they losing ground to Android quicker then Apple engineers are able to put together a new product. Earlier today Andy Rubin bragged about 700,000 daily activations. Simply put, Apple is scared of competition. Nay, they are scared ****less. Since they can't compete by innovating they choose to fight by litigating.
If there is one thing I have agreed with Jobs on, was his musing that "market will sort everything out". It looks like market already did just that and the new is not good for Apple, hence the lawsuits.

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This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
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I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.

MartyLK said:
I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.

AnyMal said:
Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.
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How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?

MartyLK said:
I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..

Apple business model will fail not now but in the future. What apple is trying to do is to stall it in a way. They already knew sole proprietary will fail, they almost went under at the start..
Steve jobs started a vendetta againts the android os. This is common knowledge. He got mad that someone in his company said NO left and made a product just as good.
My thing is how and why would apple try to sue something that isnt even their os. Thats like microsoft suing apple for a double click to open a file. Or adobe suing java, its childish.
Or ford suing all car manufacturers for having a break pedal.
Noting was stolen, apple has its own OS and android has theirs.
In my opinion suing for how a devices behaves. Its stupid dumb and im surprised the judges havent said that.
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Segnale007 said:
Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..
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And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm

MartyLK said:
And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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So did they "license" the android style notification dropdown in IOS5? And did they license the slide to unlock feature that they got a patent for?

MartyLK said:
And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.

AnyMal said:
You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.
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You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.

Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Funny how he completely ignores my post.

varun.singh286 said:
Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Typical. People who hate Apple focus on one tiny little thing they do and ignore the mountain of violations the other companies have been doing against Apple for years.
And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.

MartyLK said:
You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.
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Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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sooyong94 said:
Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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Sorry to enrage you and make you be a false witness. All that I said, I said with calmness and rationality. What you read into it, you read from your own emotions. So, my apologies for controlling your emotions and making you do something against your will.

MartyLK said:
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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LOOOOOOOL. I didn't even need to click on that, it's in the link itself: "ignores prior art". So yeah, Apple owns. They own things they didn't actually invent! Awesome! Not!
MartyLK said:
How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?
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This is the typical Apple fan mode of operation:
Apple Fan: "Apple invented all this stuff!!"
Someone: "Err, no they didn't. There was this, that and the other stuff, which Apple copied."
Apple Fan: "Yeah, well, Apple owns the patents!!"
Suddenly it's not important anymore that Apple hasn't invented anything. And they're completely oblivious how what this does is point to the brokenness of the patent system, as opposed to pointing to the supposed brilliance of Apple.
MartyLK said:
And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.
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But, but, but... I thought Apple is this brilliant inventor! Now you're telling me that the biggest "revolution" of IOS5 wasn't invented by Apple? How's that work?

What if Google omitted Apple?

I was just reading through some more of Apple's iGnorant patent claims and an idea popped up. What if Google omitted all searches and advertisements relating Apple and/or Steve Jobs. Its like the company and the iDiot (<< see what I did there?) would virtually disappear. I mean, come on, Jobs was quoted as saying he wanted to crush Google, right? And with all of these lawsuits, fair is fair right?
Apple was born from stolen intellectual property, and in his book, Jobs laughs about it. Yet Apple has the gall to sue everyone else for doing what they have been doing for years? Jobs was nothing but a spoiled, greedy, phoney, little bastard with a tendency for child like temper tantrums who was trying to make it through life "working" as little as possible. Call him a visionary because of not doing market research? HA! He was nothing but a madman! He had no real concerns about anyone but himself and making himself rich. (Page 546: the meeting with Obama, Zuckerberg nailed it saying "We should be talking about what's important to the country. Why is he just talking about what's good for him?") Yes, he tried to make it appear that he wasn't about money, but in the end, I think its pretty apparent what he wanted most. Can you imagine how expensive of a world we would live in right now if Apple had taken the lead from Microsoft in the early years?
I say its time to boycott Apple, on EVERY level!

Google would lose credibility, not a good idea in the long run for them. They can't get caught up in censoring things they don't like if they want to continue being the top search engine.
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I think Google, Adobe, and everybody else who Apple depends on for products but has been backstabbed by them should conspire to hurt them and expose them for the proprietary nutjobs that they are.
Who says they would lose "credibility"?? Have tech companies really tried to take stands on much of anything evre (except SOPA)? Besides, it is their priviledge...ain't capitalism grand?
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OP do you support SOPA too?
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SadieNibblesworth said:
I think Google, Adobe, and everybody else who Apple depends on for products but has been backstabbed by them should conspire to hurt them and expose them for the proprietary nutjobs that they are.
Who says they would lose "credibility"?? Have tech companies really tried to take stands on much of anything evre (except SOPA)? Besides, it is their priviledge...ain't capitalism grand?
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Just saying... the average consumer likes apple. If google just starts censoring anything they don't like, people will migrate away from google, and google will lose money. That would be a dumb move on many fronts.
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Maybe not omit apple, but just put all the true negative aspects of apple at the top of the results. Yes the average person likes Apple, but only because the average person doesn't know what kind of cut throat unethical person Jobs, and the company was/is. The news goes on about the mass suicide threat at a foxcon factory that makes xbox's (that was the headline) then when you read the article, they don't know if xbox's were made there or ipads and iphones. But you don't see the icrap mentioned in the negative headlines!

Google makes a ton of money off of Apple because IOS uses Google Search. Its like a fine dance.
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Google is going to rule the world..

No the Illuminati are. :3

bbedward said:
OP do you support SOPA too?
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Oh come on! This is a private battle between Google and Apple (and to a huge extent Samsung and Motorola). How did SOPA creep in here? But to answer your question directly, no, I definitely don't support SOPA from what I understand of it.

google
you never know google is a huge company.

chrisnosleep said:
Oh come on! This is a private battle between Google and Apple (and to a huge extent Samsung and Motorola). How did SOPA creep in here? But to answer your question directly, no, I definitely don't support SOPA from what I understand of it.
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The reason he brought in SOPA is because you are supporting google censoring their search engine. SOPA would allow the government to censor whatever they wish. Hence the connection involving censoring information.
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Or how about running the search algorithm with ``rule 34'' appended on the end of any Apple related search (without the user knowing)?

You're all just making google into apple... Google is doing fine being fair to everything even with their competitors. If they do so like that then what difference would they be with apple? That's just google being professional. Leave the search engine alone and do it's job. Smartphone division is another topic.

I have the same question hovering in my mind always ! but yea I too think that if google started to censor eventually they will loose the moto of being a search engine !

slapshot30 said:
The reason he brought in SOPA is because you are supporting google censoring their search engine. SOPA would allow the government to censor whatever they wish. Hence the connection involving censoring information.
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It just seems like a long stretch going from censoring a company that is constantly biting the hand that's feeding it, to global censoring. And we're talking about Google, not the government.
As I said in a previous post, it won't be long until we're all going to be paying an Apple Tax to pay for all their lawsuits and whatever the hell else they want us to pay for. If Apple keeps going, getting more and more political people in their pockets, it WILL happen. I'm guessing that's the reason they're going with all of the foreign governments lawsuits first, I'm sure they're much easier to buy their officials than it is in the US. In my opinion, this is absolutely a worthy cause for censorship.

gizmoneil said:
I have the same question hovering in my mind always ! but yea I too think that if google started to censor eventually they will loose the moto of being a search engine !
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But what if they do it just to prove a point. Omit Apple for a week, or two weeks, and see how it affects them. If all of the bloggers, and whatever other kind of fanboys are blocked from feeding off each other, and spreading their lies, trying to persuade unknowing users, I think it would affect Apple in a big way. Its like the fanboys have a radar that's always on, where as soon as the word Apple or Steve Jobs pops up, they all come swarming in to go trash the article or thread with their comments full of crap. Both of the Android phones I've had, the Epic and the Epic 4G Touch, I constantly see the fanboys making posts that have absolutely no business in any forum at XDA. I think everyone was amazed by the boycott over SOPA, and I think we would see similar results from the simple act I stated in the OP.

I would stop using Google if they did something like that. I'd literally stop using everything Google - my homepage (iGoogle), my Android phone, their search engine, Gmail. It would all stop.
I would consider it an abuse of their position.

I think it would be violation of antitrust laws
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The best way to combat apple is to call them out on their BS intentional or otherwise. Apples strength is its marketing, and it knows how to cultivate positive misinformation into generally accepted "facts". For example, many people think that Apple devices dont have malware, Apple products "just work" and apple is the poor underdog besieged by ip stealing rivals. If you don't address these and other bs statements as they pop up they continue circulating and people remain ignorant.
By blocking apple results google would loose trust with millions of people, if they can block Apple whats to stop them blocking anything else they don't like, even if its only for a short time. Rival products, political parties and anything else may as well be open game.
Instead of demanding google censor, you should be educating, not forcefully but at least providing the information so that is at least out there. That way at least the uninformed can cut theorugh the BS and have an informed and balanced opinion. I don't like Apple at the moment, but I am not against them competeing fairly in the marketplace.