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Vote For Kaiser ... Gadget of the Year

I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
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Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/

Sticky this thread please.
I know we all have had issues with the Kaiser but its still a good phone and with HTC now coming alongside with a possible solution it should beat the Nokia N85!!!!!!

I wont vote for it without drivers..

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Let HTC think we're all happy with this phone! (sarcasm)
Sure, I'll admit the phone works great for my uses, but they still dropped the ball.

No surprise, the iPhone wins even though it doesn't qualify as a smartphone (engadget knows that). Also voted for Apple TV as worst.

bshakil said:
I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
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Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/
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Certainly, just after they provide drivers that utilized the MSM 7200 on die ATI hardware acceleration with direct draw functions, and NOT a debugged version of the current 3D implementation of the software that runs on main processor.
"You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat... How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat...?"
?Glitch

That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
Example: For Peripheral of the year, the apple keyboard is winning. There are at least 3 other peripherals on the list that are more innovative and better products. I think the Belkin network USB hub should win, but bc apple puts out a thin keyboard, everyone bends over.

marm0lade said:
That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
Example: For Peripheral of the year, the apple keyboard is winning. There are at least 3 other peripherals on the list that are more innovative and better products. I think the Belkin network USB hub should win, but bc apple puts out a thin keyboard, everyone bends over.
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Thats because most people don't realize the capablities of what PPC's can do man.. It's honestly not their fault. As normal default our phones vs Iphone, no offense mate. Iphone rips this **** to shreds..
And I am only talking about OUT OF THE BOX default...
But if we're talking about people like us, who know about technology, and understand the capabilities of what a PPC can do. Then yes, obviously the PPC kills, crush, destroys any other phone..
You gotta remember, majority of people don't know **** about technology.. You shouldn't hold it against them, honestly they can't be bothered to learn, it isn't their hobby. its ours.

Nooo don't do it!
Whilst I love my Kaiser, I can only see this being detrimental to all of the good work over at htcclassaction.
I'm not one of these people who state they wouldn't ever buy another HTC phone, the video issue doesn't really bite at me that much and personally, it's the best phone I've ever owned. I'd never admit that to HTC because it's not all that it should be. Now if they release proper drivers, I'll vote for it
marm0lade; said:
That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
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That depends on who is voting really, if it's consumer, then they bought the product, they experienced it and felt one way or another about it. If they feel inclined to vote it as best 'whatever' of the year and apple wins, then surely apple is superior, their product may or may not be but thats just a matter of opinion really.
I apple is like Marmite, you either love it or hate it (and if you really feel strongly about that go here http://www.marmite.com/ ).
Thats just my two pence worth anyway

Kepela523 said:
You gotta remember, majority of people don't know **** about technology.. You shouldn't hold it against them, honestly they can't be bothered to learn, it isn't their hobby. its ours.
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LMAO, true, true. I don't know about can't be bothered though, don't need to I think is more accurate. For most people these things do just what they want them to. They look flashy and all of their mates go "Wow, thats cool. I want one of those", another Happy customer.

bshakil said:
I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
Remember to VOTE IN TWO CATEGORIES
Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/
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Why should I vote for something that is slower than my old 8125?
The only advantage of the kaiser is the gps...

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. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
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Sounds like you describe the voting system in the U.S.! ;-)
I agree, Apple's products always have a cult following and Apple always shows up as #1. Perhaps they are #1 for buyers, but the products never seem to align with my needs. A locked phone that requires jailbreaks and other underhanded tactics to use is nothing but a pretty brick to me.
Also the Asus EEEPC or whatever, that looks like a small factor laptop not a mobile phone. Does that thing even support GSM networks? Why is that in there?
I'm unhappy with my Kaiser performance, but still happy I have it. I voted for Kaiser, because the iPhone and that EEEPC is a brick for me.

jon_k said:
I agree, Apple's products always have a cult following and Apple always shows up as #1. Perhaps they are #1 for buyers, but the products never seem to align with my needs. A locked phone that requires jailbreaks and other underhanded tactics to use is nothing but a pretty brick to me.
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Does that apply to SIM/CID unlocking, ROM ripping too? How many of us on here are actually using stock unmodified phones?

Oooh... it was tough deciding between my Asus eee and my Tilt... but I voted for tilt XD
Only downside is Engadget (as much as I love it and read it everyday) is Apple-Fan Center. Good Luck fighting them fanboys :S
Every apple product is leading "positive" awards =S

Is there a category for "Fraud of the Year"? If so, I vote for the Kaiser.

Gadget Show Channel 5 UK - iphone v Touch Diamond

As above - Chl 5 8pm tonight

i doubt this will be usefull or give you the result you hope for.
I doubt they will even know, let alone try, about flashing and the massive advantages this gives. I doubt they will touch on the various 3rd party apps that really make this phone and instead, will focus on a standard "factory fit" which, lets face it, is a bit crap. Will they cover the fact that this phone is an exellent business tool (oh how i miss TV/VGA out ... )
I also doubt they will mention the Iphones failings, its 2.0 software disaster, its "push" (yeerrr right!) email or the fact people are having there entire contacts and calendars being wiped out in front of them or again that they STILL can't change batteries
I see them going for the Iphone.

Who knows, Germans have choosen Diamond as a best phone on the world with iPhone as a 2nd with quite big adventage. Who knows, maybe those people will make some big review and will compare those phones in every aspect.

nutcracker2 said:
Who knows, Germans have choosen Diamond as a best phone on the world with iPhone as a 2nd with quite big adventage. Who knows, maybe those people will make some big review and will compare those phones in every aspect.
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What do you mean "Germans"? Do you mean the entire population voted on it or a selected "Gadget Show" like TV program?

http://www.inside-handy.de/news/12140.html
1500 of german inside-handy.de users choosen Diamond as most desirable phone of the year. I was wrong, not the best, but most desirable

The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!

nutcracker2 said:
http://www.inside-handy.de/news/12140.html
1500 of german inside-handy.de users choosen Diamond as most desirable phone of the year. I was wrong, not the best, but most desirable
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... but the poll was done in 12.06.2008 with the old iPhone and not with 3G!

nokmond said:
The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!
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I watch the gadget show because some of it well put together and you can tell the producers/presenters do know what they are talking about even if they do have to dumb it down for a maintream tv audience somewhat.
As regards the flashing issue, I doubt they will go into it in detail but why should they? Most users don't know about it and if you did tell them they probably wouldnt want to be bothered with it anyway. Its a big time sink just for a setting up a mobile, which should really have been done by HTC in the first place.

Check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaPS0NLwFQ
Most of the people they ask dont even realise about all the 3rd party apps or different roms,all they seem interested in is the way it looks.

owz206 said:
Check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaPS0NLwFQ
Most of the people they ask dont even realise about all the 3rd party apps or different roms,all they seem interested in is the way it looks.
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Thanks for the link, i hadn't realised before how crappy that show is, are they trying to be Top Gear or something! They're doing camera shots of the pavement that are so quick the phones blurred! And if the presenter emphasised his words anymore he'd explode.
In that video, that kind of test is always going to be about looks, if you even try to use the phone you wont know how because youve only had 5 seconds with it so all they can compare is looks, size, weight etc and go on what the presenters say.

Two things immediately spring to mind on watching the clip - Apple has spent a fortune on promoting the iphone, so that anyone who watches TV will have an idea how it works - if the touch screen from the Diamond had been given similar video tutorials on primetime TV, no doubt a lot of people would find the interface just as user friendly.
The other factor is the Apple effect - people feel that Apple has a brand value akin to Richard Branson's woolly jumpers - all cuddly and vaguely environmental/hippy chic. I prefer to be apart from the crowds, not queueing to buy on the basis of marketing hype.

Well I'm definitely sending my Diamond back. The one they had on the gadget show had a hardware keyboard and a Nokia label. Mine has neither.

ericsson68 said:
Well I'm definitely sending my Diamond back. The one they had on the gadget show had a hardware keyboard and a Nokia label. Mine has neither.
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LOL yeah i know i watched it too..... check out the youtube link for the web tv review (previous posts)
The review was crap anyway, people like the look of the iphone, but thats it.
None of the functionality of the Diamond was really talked about, very poor review. (if you could even call it that !)

nokmond said:
The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!
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I disagree the Gadget Show is for people who don not know anything - I watch it over the internet and I find this a useful program indeed. But I do disagree with some of the shows findings on best products...

nubbin said:
Two things immediately spring to mind on watching the clip - Apple has spent a fortune on promoting the iphone, so that anyone who watches TV will have an idea how it works - if the touch screen from the Diamond had been given similar video tutorials on primetime TV, no doubt a lot of people would find the interface just as user friendly.
The other factor is the Apple effect - people feel that Apple has a brand value akin to Richard Branson's woolly jumpers - all cuddly and vaguely environmental/hippy chic. I prefer to be apart from the crowds, not queueing to buy on the basis of marketing hype.
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"marketing hype" something Apple Computers are very good at G

Of the bat:
-The show looks cheesy as ****, something apple users tend to like!
-The 60 year old host, talking bout technology? Not good! (no harm intended to any 60 year old member in the forum)
And Ill always do this on any thread that contains the words FruityPhone:
FruitPhone SUCKS!!!!
Remeber, second best they are.

the show is usually quite good, but after watching this they did not give the htc a proper review. I mean come on if you put a iphone in front of everyone they know what it is straight away! Seems like the Apple advertising is really sucessful.
I dont mind if our Diamond isnt as big as iphone to be honest.
After all do you want everyone to have the same phone as you! I call it a small prestige club and I am honored to have be in it.

Sergio PC said:
Of the bat:
-The show looks cheesy as ****, something apple users tend to like!
-The 60 year old host, talking bout technology? Not good! (no harm intended to any 60 year old member in the forum)
And Ill always do this on any thread that contains the words FruityPhone:
FruitPhone SUCKS!!!!
Remeber, second best they are.
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Could you possibly be any more offensive with your outdated and ageist remark?
He's not even 60.
Idiot.

kidd78 said:
the show is usually quite good, but after watching this they did not give the htc a proper review. ......
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Did you watch the same show as me? I only saw the IPhone versus a Nokia....
I suppose you are right in a sense, they didn't give the HTC a proper review ... as they didnt have one!

I stopped watching the gadget show a few years ago because i get the feeling that they really dont know what they are talking about, the reveiws and tests that they do are completley stupid and of course they are given more money to say good things about certain products.
There was an episode i flicked onto the other month, and they had picked out a bunch of HD TV's an said they were gonna get the best experts in the country to give them a thouogh testing to see which one was the best! So they took them to the tech guys (pc worlds attempt at making ppl think that their getting good advice!) who stood about 2 foot away from the screens an said that none of them were particaully good and then said the most expencive one wa no good because it was a Plasma set and could suffer from screen burn!
In short the show is biased to whoever pays them the most money to give the best review!!!1!!!

iphone killer app

I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?

You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...

The Iphone is sooo cute.......It's amazing how impressed people get with what are nothing but a bunch of shortcuts on the phone, You can't do everything you can on WM

If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.

Squeaky369 said:
You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...
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Well, that's the the hardest point: make the non intelligent understand that they are such.

pingels said:
If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.
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You totally missed me: If I could get iphone for $100 less than what i have payed for my kaiser (and maybe I could - i just didnt look for) I would never got an apple,
I am more than proud to have my kaiser and I bought it after reading this website for long time and understanding that powerful machine with power web support is what I need. for me the apple is like a toy for spoiled users, but I do find myself many times trying to justify my choice.

udi1 said:
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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Anywho, Skyfire. Nuff said. Load it up enabled HSDPA on your phone and head to anysite playing video. I watched that new Chris Rock special on my phone today at work, had the entire crew laughing.

when sanchez get his program out, then you can show them your phone can do everything the iphone does. just showing how customizable it is should do the trick

c'mon man...you already got them with copy and paste!

udi1 said:
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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dude, you don't need any special application. just copy and paste and they'll run off crying like little girls

Just show them a cursory list of WM apps/games available for the TyTN II and that'll scare them sh*tless!!!! Nevermind the Java stuff too.
Just show them how customisable the TyTN II is also,
and and and and and...the list is almost endles!!!
I have a thread here somewhere where I had a device shoot-out with a colleague a few months back. He has (had now hehehehehe) an Apple iPhoney and I have my TyTN II....he ran for the hills dude!!!!!!!!

Show them Manila 2D
I wowed an iPhone user when I showed them my tilt with M2D running. What's up with youtube on iPhone looking like crap? LOL

kaiser VS. iphone
hey.
no dought. iphone is like a simple video game, and kaiser is like a small computer with all the posebilities-just think of one...
in every compresion i read, the kaiser took the iphone by far.
be proud to have a kaiser. a fantastic machine indeed. let the childrens play with their iphones

Are you expecting somebody to say "there was a guy with an iphone, and i pulled out my kaiser and showed him my latest program. his girlfriend left him for me and gave me a lot of money. then i asked him about copying and pasting and he grabbed his groin because my metaphorical kick actually caused him pain."

Funny, cbass.
No, but there is a joy to all of this. It's not about who's swinging the bigger stick. It's just that some iPhone owners are so ridiculous about their phones (while most of the iPhone owners I know already have either broken the screen or just traded them in.)
A buddy of mine lives 3000 miles away. I called him up to let him know I was visiting. Knowing he's a gadget geek, I asked if he had the new 3G iPhone. He did. He asked if I had it. I said "No, I bought the Tilt." He laughed and told me about three coworkers who bought Tilts and hated them. How ugly the screens were. How impractical. I kept my mouth shut knowing I had just put TouchFlo 2d on the Tilt and wanted to wait for him to see it in person. Now I have a buddy who is pissed he bought an iPhone.
P.S. I don't know where you guys bought your Kaisers. I bought mine from AT&T (refurbished, not that you could tell) for $150.

A horse that had just purchased an iPhone walked into a bar...bartender asked, "Why the long face?"
Thank you, thank you...
Just go to an iPhone owner, put your tilt up to their face, and ask, "Can your fancy phone DO THIS!!!" as you slide out the keyboard to the transformers sound they will have no other choice but to rip their garment apart and gnash their teeth in repentance...

This is the funniest thread ever!

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This is the funniest thread ever!
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iphone killer thread... should be stickied!!

No offense, but there is no comparison
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.

esnyder58 said:
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.
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Actually alot of them do revolve around there phones..... they are materialistic about it alot of times. if apple can put their name on it they will buy it.
I would have to say it is a opinion though. just over a year ago people were amazed when i had a phone with a touch screen. now they don't hardly make phones without them. People are used to having a phone that did only the basic functions and anything more than that is over whelming to them to have much more than simple.
Reguardless it really is an inteligence thing. people are intimidated by carrying around a computer in their pocket and yet i can tell them they are amazed everytme they see my phone after i have flashed a new rom "its like a having a new phone everytime" I've actually talked about 10 different people into gettng this phone in the last 6 months reguardsless that its "death" is schedulled at the end of this year. I'm maitaing a fleet of kaisers and training windows mobile users. They all were confused when they got them but about all you have to say is it runs just like windows and all the sudden it gets easier and easier.......
One thing i can say is noone i have ever talked to after i show them around to all the things they can do and how to use them have ever gone, "damn i shouldn't have gotten this phone." they all go off to flaunt it to their iphone friends.

[Q] Windows 7 look

Is it just me, or is this new windows 7 ugly as hell? With all the fuss being made about it, how they kept pushing back the release date, I expected MS to change the game. Basically all theyre giving us is a glorified integrated Mortscripts on a basic looking interface. Just because they spin a couple menus around when you press them doesnt make it high tech.

I presume you mean windows phone 7 based on the content.
I'm pretty certain, call me crazy, that windows phone 7 contains more then just a set of ui changes uses the tiles. I'm counting on a lot of features, and stable integration against my other Microsoft products?
I'm sure if you post this thread in the Windows Phone Section you may get a better reply for that.
And to answer your question - It is different, I am undecided if I am one for the tiles or not, but I can see it as something I would get used to and be able to quickly utilise. I mean, why else would people have made an app made to look like it for android, or why else would there be a winmo app out for the home screen. I'm sure some people like it, alot! I personally am looking forward to see what Microsoft have done for Windows Phone 7.
And if you mean windows 7, pc, I think that it kicks ass.....

Dont get me wrong,I'll always be a windows man,but Ive been coming here since 2004,yet nothing had our geeky mouths watering like the prospect of a completely revamped OS.Even if WM7 makes its official entrance,I think I'll stick around for an HTC mod like TouchFlo or something.
Also,I posted it on this forum so I wouldnt come across as one of those kiljoys that ruin perfectly good threads.

LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.

I like WP7, but not the home screen. That title thing is ugly and whats with the wasted space on the top and right side? Just doesn't make sense.

captainstu72 said:
LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.
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Now thats what Im talking about.HTC has rescued windows a lot of times from being obliterated by prettyfied devices like iPhone(HTC Cube,HTC Home,Manila,etc). Apple has proven many times that people care more about looks than functionality.

It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source

MacaronyMax said:
It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source
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lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.

flyboyovyick said:
lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.
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Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...

Vukile said:
Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...
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Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!

flyboyovyick said:
Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!
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its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.

Vukile said:
its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.
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Makes you sad, doesn't it.
I remember the days when I used to develop themes for SE phones. ahhh those were the days

Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.

hungry81 said:
Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.
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It's like that old fairytale about the Emperor's Clothes. Always wondered what that was about...

[APP-WP7] iPooey -[R]- 4/6/11 -[V]- 1.1 -[U]- 4/19/11

Name: iPooey
Trick your friends! Tell them you get a new prototype iPhone hardware, or you installed iOS on your WindowsPhone. Looks like iOS interface, but when they click it, a cartoon poo appears where they clicked and it plays a nasty fart sound! Use it to annoy those other snobby stuck-up iPhone users!
It goes for $0.99 on the Marketplace, but I am making it available for free to fellow XDA members; if you can sideload apps via a xap file. If you like it and use it a lot, feel free to support me by purchasing it on the Marketplace if you want. But, enjoy the free version for now because XDA is awesome!
Download/Purchase link via Zune. Download link should wok by 4/7/11 for all regions.
V1.1 is now available. It now sets the "iPhone" clock to the current system time instead of a static clock, to increase immersion. Also loads faster.

So juvenile... And thank you very much!

definitely worth it's 99 cents

If you guys do enjoy it and purchase it on the Marketplace please review it also to help me out!

It would be nice if you could at least do something in the app. For example, if you could swipe through the pages to make it seem much more realistic. Also, maybe get a higher resolution screenshot of iOS? This screenshot makes it look more like a prototype of the original iPhone somehow running iOS 4.
If these things are done, it would definitely be worth the 99 cents and probably even more!

Great!
Haha, great app, when's the android version coming?

Chaoticaa said:
Also, maybe get a higher resolution screenshot of iOS? This screenshot makes it look more like a prototype of the original iPhone somehow running iOS 4.
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The forum compresses the attached images. The real app is high resolution. I guess I should find a website to host the screenshot and link it.
I really worry about that in the Microsoft marketplace. They compress the screenshots even further and makes it look so much worse that it is annoying.

enahs_ said:
Name: iPooey
Trick your friends! Tell them you get a new prototype iPhone hardware, or you installed iOS on your WindowsPhone. Looks like iOS interface, but when they click it, a cartoon poo appears where they clicked and it plays a nasty fart sound! Use it to annoy those other snobby stuck-up iPhone users!
It goes for $0.99 on the Marketplace, but I am making it available for free to fellow XDA members; if you can sideload apps via a xap file. If you like it and use it a lot, feel free to support me by purchasing it on the Marketplace if you want. But, enjoy the free version for now because XDA is awesome!
Download/Purchase link via Zune. Download link should wok by 4/7/11 for all regions.
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android version PLEASE!!!!!

In case you guys haven't noticed, I featured this on the XDA Portal.
Great work, enahs_ !

is so cooool . android + WinMo 6.5 version PLEASE!!!!!

With all due respect to the OP, this is singlehandedly one of the most retarded and juvenile things I've ever seen.
We all have mobile devices based on what our preferences and likes are, this isn't the sort of maturity that we should be projecting about the iPhone, it's appalling. I own an Android phone, but I'm perfectly content with respecting all the phone platforms as very capable.
I hate ****-talking any app like this, but it needs to be said. It's a joke for now, har har har, but it projects a terrible attitude towards the mobile space and I doubt you'll be taken seriously should you choose to release mature paid apps in the future.
Good day to you.

LiquidSolstice said:
With all due respect to the OP, this is singlehandedly one of the most retarded and juvenile things I've ever seen.
We all have mobile devices based on what our preferences and likes are, this isn't the sort of maturity that we should be projecting about the iPhone, it's appalling. I own an Android phone, but I'm perfectly content with respecting all the phone platforms as very capable.
I hate ****-talking any app like this, but it needs to be said. It's a joke for now, har har har, but it projects a terrible attitude towards the mobile space and I doubt you'll be taken seriously should you choose to release mature paid apps in the future.
Good day to you.
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I have released mature apps. I have several in the top 10 in the WP7 Marketplace in a couple different categories. So that takes care of that.
To the rest of what you said, whatever. Its called a joke, people have different sense of humors. It hurts nobody. You honestly sound like somebody who is just offended and must insult and put down other people who do not agree with your opinion of the world. Other people enjoy it, you are not the morality police. Insult the quality of the app, please, I want to improve my programming. But just because it offends you does not mean your opinion is the only right one and you should insult everyone else that enjoys this type of humor....

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I have released mature apps. I have several in the top 10 in the WP7 Marketplace in a couple different categories. So that takes care of that.
To the rest of what you said, whatever. Its called a joke, people have different sense of humors. It hurts nobody. You honestly sound like somebody who is just offended and must insult and put down other people who do not agree with your opinion of the world. Other people enjoy it, you are not the morality police. Insult the quality of the app, please, I want to improve my programming. But just because it offends you does not mean your opinion is the only right one and you should insult everyone else that enjoys this type of humor....
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A) No, I'm not offended. I'm just disappointed.
B) It's fine that it's a joke. That's not what I'm disappointed about.
C) Just as you're entitled to make whatever app you want, I'm entitled to tell you (or anyone else) my opinion as it stands.
Get over it. Not everyone is grinning their ass off at your little joke, and I might be the first person to express it, but you can be sure I won't be the last.
I'm not that impressed with "programming" when it appears to be an image that executes an animation when tapped. I don't understand why this made the front page.
In fact, YOU sound more upset that someone didn't like your app, which in that case, it's you that needs to grow up.
Whatever, I'm leaving this thread, I don't own a WP7 device, but if I did, you can be sure I wouldn't be getting this "app".

LiquidSolstice said:
In fact, YOU sound more upset that someone didn't like your app, which in that case, it's you that needs to grow up.
Whatever, I'm leaving this thread, I don't own a WP7 device, but if I did, you can be sure I wouldn't be getting this "app".
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No, in fact a lot of people do not like some of my apps. Does not offend me. Just like it does not offend me when people do not like my cooking, it is all a matter of personal opinion.
Other people are enjoying something that does not harm anybody and you feel the need to come in and try and make people feel bad about it, insult people, and ruin peoples good time.
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. Well, guess what, people are entitled to their opinion about your opinion.