iPhone 4 reception drops dramatically when held from below - Off-topic

Early reports from the US by users of Apple's new iPhone 4 suggest that a design fault means its reception worsens when held with the hand wrapped around the phone.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jun/24/iphone-reception-problems-bottom-edge

chikoo said:
Early reports from the US by users of Apple's new iPhone 4 suggest that a design fault means its reception worsens when held with the hand wrapped around the phone.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jun/24/iphone-reception-problems-bottom-edge
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Theres always going to be something...Steve needs to shave in that picture

omg...I can just imagine at the next iPhone release, Steve is going to say the following:
"With the iPhone 4, we reimagined how the antennae should be designed by using a metal band with a couple of slits. This meant that your entire phone acts as the antennae. Now, with the iPhone 5, we again push innovation to the limits. Now, we reposition those slits such that you can hold your phone with either hand. It's really magical." [fanboy audience applause]

Everybody knows that the iPhone 4 kills all of the other phones in te world. Especially Android, wanna know why? Because Android Phone is For Porn. Why do you think we have flash now huh?

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Everybody knows that the iPhone 4 kills all of the other phones in te world. Especially Android, wanna know why? Because Android Phone is For Porn. Why do you think we have flash now huh?
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Isn't that why we all have Android, for porn?

.mak said:
Isn't that why we all have Android, for porn?
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I have it to watch the videos about Android being for porn.... same concept?

Nonsense, Steve just invented a new way that we should all be holding our phones!
http://gizmodo.com/5572279/apples-acknowledges-iphone-4-reception-issues-says-dont-hold-it-like-that

Neo3D said:
Nonsense, Steve just invented a new way that we should all be holding our phones!
http://gizmodo.com/5572279/apples-acknowledges-iphone-4-reception-issues-says-dont-hold-it-like-that
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Sad but true. LOLOL

This problem can be demonstrated in the HD2 as well. I just tried it. if I hold the bottom half of the phone, the signal drops from 5 bars to 2 ~ 3 bars. If I put it down, it goes back up to 5 bars. Seems to happen with either hand for the most part. But I guess the problem is that it's bad enough on the iPhone to a point where people are getting dropped calls or something?
If you hold the phone on the upper half, you see no such problem. But I guess the whole issue with this is in the manner in which Steve Jobs replied the e-mail. It's like a big F-U to the customer. "I already got your money, I could care less about what you do or have to say".

PoisonWolf said:
This problem can be demonstrated in the HD2 as well. I just tried it. if I hold the bottom half of the phone, the signal drops from 5 bars to 2 ~ 3 bars. If I put it down, it goes back up to 5 bars. Seems to happen with either hand for the most part. But I guess the problem is that it's bad enough on the iPhone to a point where people are getting dropped calls or something?
If you hold the phone on the upper half, you see no such problem. But I guess the whole issue with this is in the manner in which Steve Jobs replied the e-mail. It's like a big F-U to the customer. "I already got your money, I could care less about what you do or have to say".
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Doesn't happen with my HTC Pure

See there's a difference though. The HTC HD2 does lose some signal [I've actually teted this myself], but it doesn't lose ALL service.
The iFail 4 loses, literally, all service in a matter of seconds.
And the goons paying $500+ for these iFails are inticed enough to spend MORE money to actually be able to use the device as a phone.
That's like if HTC told users that "without buying a third party sleeve or a headset, your new HD2 can't be used as an actual phone". And if I was to read that, I'd still buy the HD2, because it's simply amazing. But the iPhone is everything BUT amazing.

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
hahahahahahaha
I think it's time for Steve "Howard Hughes" Jobs to pack his sh*t and get OUT!!!!

lol, or cut all of your fingers except the pinky and thumb.
One solution to the Apple iPhone 4's antenna
problem is to cover the lower left corner with tape.
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Worst phone you've ever used?

Doesn't matter how old. What was the worst, and why?
For me:
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The Ericsson A1018s.
Why?
For one simple reason - the keypad. Holy mother of all that is holy, the keypad on this phone SUCKED. It was virtually unusable, typing a message would take an eternity because the keypad felt cheap and awful and the input was SO SLOW it was unbearable. It'd take forever for characters to appear on the screen and half the time it wouldn't even recognize your touches. It was one of those scenarios where you would press the button harder and harder til your fingers bled even though it made no difference.
Thank god I don't think I actually owned this phone myself, believe it was my dads for a time who only used it for calls.
The aerial was probably the biggest I'd ever seen on a phone pre-2000, but was kinda cool. It had a sharp point at the bottom of the aerial if you removed it which you'd never get through airport customs in 2010.
This would have been a cool little mobile if it wasn't for the keypad. They even gave you 3 coloured clip-on fronts.
This phone was also called the 'coca cola' phone to some people as I believe Coke had a competition to win this phone on collecting a million ringpulls or something.
A girl I quite fancied bought one after her Motorola got stolen too, it took her years to reply to my texts which made it frustrating to flirt with her even though I had a usable handset myself! Very unfair!
So f**k this phone! What's your worst?
SmS2 ... coincidentally i happen to have used exactly this one...and it was also my Dads passed on to me when i came at the age of using mobile which was 18 yrs at that time ....
but considering the time it was launched..it was a nice phone... with some cool features..
One thing i still remember is that it had the option of switching to line 1 and line 2 even when their was one SIM slot...may be operators that time thought later on thay would provide this option on a single sim
Even the antenna used to work when we removed the extension and i the add on tacky Vibrator had to be purchased separately
Why i liked it...i cud be used as a brick at the time of emergencies
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SmS2 ... coincidentally i happen to have used exactly this one...and it was also my Dads passed on to me when i came at the age of using mobile which was 18 yrs at that time ....
but considering the time it was launched..it was a nice phone... with some cool features..
One thing i still remember is that it had the option of switching to line 1 and line 2 even when their was one SIM slot...may be operators that time thought later on thay would provide this option on a single sim
Even the antenna used to work when we removed the extension and i the add on tacky Vibrator had to be purchased separately
Why i liked it...i cud be used as a brick at the time of emergencies
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LOL - I kind of have a soft spot for it too. I like all of the oldskool GSM phones really, very durable and, well, phonelike! Motorola M3788 was my first, probably the easiest 0-9 keypad style phone for texting I ever had. Could never see myself going back to one of those though now I'm spoiled by Qwerty, Swype and the like.
Simpler times when the only worry you had was how the HELL you'd afford to keep the thing topped up. No worrying about compatibility, roms, OS's and all of the other stuff we've become accustomed to needing!
Wait a minute, I bought an HD2 for an easier life. BRB - checking my attic.
All my cellies b4 da G1 sucked lool. Specially maa Razr.
Luckyly I did not buyed and sold after 2 days usage
Really can't put into words how bad it was.....

			
				
iPhone or more like iPhail.....
for me - iphone
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Reception was awful and it weighed a tonne!!
We still have one of those Ericsson A- series same one as the picture! All boxed with everything. Branded: BT CELLNET. But it doesnt work
flyboy
flyboyovyick2k9 said:
We still have one of those Ericsson A- series same one as the picture! All boxed with everything. Branded: BT CELLNET. But it doesnt work
flyboy
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Probably worth a few bob now as its an antique
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Oh yeah baby. FTW!
Nokia 3650
LOL at all the iPhone hate =]
For me it would have to be the Motorola Timeport:
Just look at the effing thing!!
My First Phone: Simens A62
So far:
Siemens A62 --> Motoroller L6 --> Song Erricson W810i --> XDA Orbit 1 --> XDA Exec
this sexy phone
^ that is a classic & belongs in a museum

Apple Changes Everything. Again -Tricky~

its pretty amazing to hold the iphone 4 like this way.....
this can avoid making the signal drops..
iphone 4 is so expensive(more than 7000 yuan, some taobao's shop offer 10000+ ,Leo only about 3600 yuan)......
And iphone 4 signal has big problems...
I don't like it.
you would have thought a major bug like the signal drop would be picked up at the testing stage its just a good example that Apple cannot wait to get there piece of crap out to the public before its ready
Kinda makes you wonder if APPL pulled all their test models after that one got found in the bar. Would make since if they nixed the testers right then and they never found out about the whole "Don't touch your phone" thing.
lufc said:
you would have thought a major bug like the signal drop would be picked up at the testing stage its just a good example that Apple cannot wait to get there piece of crap out to the public before its ready
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Incorrect. They know that no matter what crap they pump out, the fanbase would still buy them because it's magical.
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I literally just lol'd. Out loud and everything. I haven't seen a picture that has made me do that in... years.
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I hope hes directing that towards a brick wall great pic btw

			
				
oursoul said:
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That's too gory to be shared on facebook, unfortunately.
oursoul said:
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Apple Inc: "We bite our apple, now bite your hand"
hilarious......

			
				
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I need to stop reading off topic when I am drinking tea... it burns my nostrils...
They're claiming the problem is down to their calculation of the number of bars to show depending on the signal, saying that the iPhone4 adds 2 bars, so if you have 4 bars, may really only be 2, and by blocking the signal by holding it in your left hand, the signal drops by 2 bars making it really have 0 bars, and that's the problem, not the hardware.
Ok, in that case, why is the iPhone4 so poor at picking up signal only managing 2 bars when other phones with internal aerials manage 4, and why does fitting a rubber case/scotch tape around the edge stop the signal attenuation caused by user's left hands?
PS I cannot be held responsible for any liquid damage caused to electrical equipment while perusing this thread
Here is another way to hold the iPhone 4.
Ok, in that case, why is the iPhone4 so poor at picking up signal only managing 2 bars when other phones with internal aerials manage 4, and why does fitting a rubber case/scotch tape around the edge stop the signal attenuation caused by user's left hands?
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Comparing how many bars of signal strength you get isn't a good way to compare signal strength, as it is the programmers who decide what bars get shown for what signal strength (-113 dBm (weakest) to -51dBm (strongest)).
Page 2 of the iPhone 4 Anandtech review covers the antenna issue very thoroughly, if you're interested in a good read.

iBallz drop protection

http://www.iballz.info/
I've had these iBallz since my first iPad. They went on my iPad2, Transformer TF300, and now I have them on my Nexus7. They are the original size iBallz... I see on the website they have a 'mini' version for smaller tablets... might have to check those out as I get a lot of use out of these.
I am an eBay seller so this tablet gets around to yard sales, thrift stores, all over my garage and more. I am constantly setting it down somewhere dirty. The iBallz keep the tablet off the surface I am setting it on. I gave my iPads and the Transformer the 'drop test' with these and the iPad's come thru like champs. The Transformer (same size as iPad, also made by ASUS) survived the fall from about 4 feet high straight down to the ground but it did a reboot. I noticed no further issues besides the reboot.
Since the 7 is also made by ASUS i'm assuming something similar will happen but with all the screen lift scare I'm not going to intentionally try the drop test on the 7. I'm sure it will get an accidental drop sooner or later and I'll update this when it happens.
The strings give an added support that feels nice when you slide your hand in between the elastic band and the pad it feels more secure in your hand- less likely to slip out of your hand. The balls are great to hold on to when laying down on your back on the couch or bed watching videos or surfing..
All the balls are clear of any outer buttons, although the top right one almost hovers over the power button- but not enough to prevent usage of the button but very close to it. I'm sure the mini balls they sell will be even better.
Thats all my thoughts on it so far- I've only had the iBallz on the 7 for a couple days now as I just got this tablet. I'll update this more if I see any more insight on it.
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:good: thumbs up for being something I have never seen before
It's interesting and clever, but the price is kinda steep for what is basically Nerf balls and string.
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The balls are great to hold on to when laying down on your back on the couch or bed watching videos or surfing..
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I just wanted to quote this, so it couldn't be edited.
Also, thats kind of a cool idea. Not cosmetically as nice as a case, but provides some real drop protection. I may have to check out them mini balls.
Joe T said:
It's interesting and clever, but the price is kinda steep for what is basically Nerf balls and string.
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That I can understand but they are more like form fitting foam (very solid foam but still cushiony) that is precision cut to fit. I guess if someone is so inclined they could make them but I don't think the majority are these kind of people.
For the price I paid ($25) I have gotten quite a few years of use out of them on several devices.
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I just wanted to quote this, so it couldn't be edited.
Also, thats kind of a cool idea. Not cosmetically as nice as a case, but provides some real drop protection. I may have to check out them mini balls.
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I see what you did there. This is the first time I've ever seen something like this. I agree it is a little steep for $2 worth of nurf balls.
OMG
Not sure what to think about having balls on my tablet. Guess nice drop protection unless your ball's fall off.
That system might work, but honestly, I'll risk dropping it. I couldn't even give a reason without making it sound like an insult...so I'll just say it's not for me...
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What happens if you drop the tablet on a rock or a stair and it impacts the middle of the screen?
earlyberd said:
What happens if you drop the tablet on a rock or a stair and it impacts the middle of the screen?
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DAAAAA YOU GET TO BUY A NEW TABLET.. Please do not attempt
get 4 $1 dollar handballs
put holes that allows you slide the tablet corners and put a rope through the balls
,,,,,,,
profit?
Wtf ?
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earlyberd said:
What happens if you drop the tablet on a rock or a stair and it impacts the middle of the screen?
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Try it out and see. Your wallet will love you.

Wife + Nexus 4 = BAD EXPERIENCE

As I skipped the N4 for the Note II, I decided to get my wife it to replace her 4S (small victory for Android). She really liked it and started getting into it.
Her problem is that she is very clumsy and ALWAYS drops her phones. So every time she was using it, I would basically be holding my breath. Yesterday turned out to be hell day for her N4.
Coming back from the mall, I tell her to put it in her purse because it was sliding everywhere. She said no it wasn't (really?) and that it was fine. I bite my tongue and drive. Once we get home, she DROPS it on the concrete getting out of the car. I freak out and you know what she does? Laughs and says its just a small crack.
Mind you she refuses to get a case but now says I should have gotten her one. Its OK and working fine. We go inside and she goes to reapply her make up. I get a call from her phone but can't hear her. So I go to see what she wants. Guess what? She dropped it reaching over the toilet for a towel!
At this point I thought she was joking, but no it was wet. Everything is still working, but I'm pissed. How clumsy can you be? I'm highly considering letting her go back to the 4S because the abuse in seeing is honestly driving me crazy. Maybe her punishment will be to continue using the toilet phone...
Get her a nokia 3310.
If you bought her the phone, you probably should have gotten a case with it, especially knowing how clumsy she is.
Regardless, no case would have protected it from being in the toilet. You should probably just get her a cheap candy bar phone instead.
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As I skipped the N4 for the Note II, I decided to get my wife it to replace her 4S (small victory for Android). She really liked it and started getting into it.
Her problem is that she is very clumsy and ALWAYS drops her phones. So every time she was using it, I would basically be holding my breath. Yesterday turned out to be hell day for her N4.
Coming back from the mall, I tell her to put it in her purse because it was sliding everywhere. She said no it wasn't (really?) and that it was fine. I bite my tongue and drive. Once we get home, she DROPS it on the concrete getting out of the car. I freak out and you know what she does? Laughs and says its just a small crack.
Mind you she refuses to get a case but now says I should have gotten her one. Its OK and working fine. We go inside and she goes to reapply her make up. I get a call from her phone but can't hear her. So I go to see what she wants. Guess what? She dropped it reaching over the toilet for a towel!
At this point I thought she was joking, but no it was wet. Everything is still working, but I'm pissed. How clumsy can you be? I'm highly considering letting her go back to the 4S because the abuse in seeing is honestly driving me crazy. Maybe her punishment will be to continue using the toilet phone...
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You're getting that mad at your wife over a phone?
Get her a strong case, and don't worry about what she does. If she breaks it, she'll end up without a phone (or with a crappy phone) and she'll learn her lesson that way.
Time for a divorce! :laugh:
Give her the crappy 4s back so she mess that up. I dont want to offend you or anything, but she doesnt seem like she deserves this phone.
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I suspect your paranoia is driving her nuts. You "decide" for her? Who in hell are you man? You complain about her being "clumsy" on a forum? And are *****ing over a bloody phone?
You need counseling and your wife some breathing space. MCP.
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She married a clown.
hashibahoohaa said:
I suspect your paranoia is driving her nuts. You "decide" for her? Who in hell are you man? You complain about her being "clumsy" on a forum? And are *****ing over a bloody phone?
You need counseling and your wife some breathing space. MCP.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
She's an adult; she can make her own decisions and live with the consequence. It's no biggy
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Sounds like she needs that Casio G force phone.
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Pics of your wife or it didn't happen
(Sorry I had too)
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If you knew she was prone to dropping phones why get something like an N4, especially without a case... A cheaper android phone (less expense to replace), or even a Sonim if it's that bad
No hard feelings but
People need to stop giving the OP a hard time. I can see why you are slightly annoyed because she isn't taking care of her shiny new nexus 4. It's like why have the phone if its gone look like ish in 30 days.
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Get a new wife
That poor nexus 4 hurt and abused lol
You should of let her abuse the 4s
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My Google Play Edition s4 is SOOO much better than my N5

I have had my N5 for a week now and its back in the box and the Play S4 takes its place, nothing about the N5 is any better than the S4 in fact its worse in available screen size, notification lights don't work and its so slippery I already dropped it twice, and the camera sucks asss, is this really the Google Flagship, I think not!!!!!!!! Not to mention the fact that the S4 has removable battery and SDcard
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My notification lights don't work either
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jojoluton said:
I have had my N5 for a week now and its back in the box and the Play S4 takes its place, nothing about the N5 is any better than the S4 in fact its worse in available screen size, notification lights don't work and its so slippery I already dropped it twice, and the camera sucks asss, is this really the Google Flagship, I think not!!!!!!!!
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Wow I never would have thought a 5 inch phone with onscreen buttons has less available space than a 5 inch phone with Hardware buttons, thanks for explaining this to me.
Cool story, bro!
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wurzelsepp3 said:
Wow I never would have thought a 5 inch phone with onscreen buttons has less available space than a 5 inch phone with Hardware buttons, thanks for explaining this to me.
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I had to pee today after I drank coffee, and then I had some toast. Today is a good day.
heres your answer
The screen sizes are identical but Google uses the bottom portion for its on screen controls so the screen area ends up being about 3/8" shorter than the S4, just saying that's all, maybe not everyone realises
So you think a $600 is better than a $300 phone? okay...
Is this thread one of the Samsung's marketing strategy?
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so you think a $600 is better than a $300 phone? Okay...
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absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jojoluton said:
its so slippery I already dropped it twice
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This line alone discredits anything you have to say but if posting like a tard is your thing then you have accomplished what you set out to do.
Please ELABORATE
[email protected] said:
This line alone discredits anything you have to say but if posting like a tard is your thing then you have accomplished what you set out to do.
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I would like to know your thoughts LOL
Seems like you guys don't want to hear the truth and seems also like you will all be buying the MOTO G because it only costs $199
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Seems like you guys don't want to hear the truth and seems also like you will all be buying the MOTO G because it only costs $199
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Why are you still here if you are getting rid your slippery N5?
Oh, and in case you weren't aware the S4 is worse in screen size then the G2 and Note 3. Just wanted to put that out there for you.
I've owned 5 different phones in the last 3 years and I haven't dropped any of them once, yet you dropped yours twice in a day. Maybe you just have sweaty hands?
but they are not Google phones the last time I checked ROFLMAO
[email protected] said:
Why are you still here if you are getting rid your slippery N5?
Oh, and in case you weren't aware the S4 is worse in screen size then the G2 and Note 3. Just wanted to put that out there for you.
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Pathetic response buddy
OP you are a little whiny kid.
who said anything about a day,
mjs2011 said:
I've owned 5 different phones in the last 3 years and I haven't dropped any of them once, yet you dropped yours twice in a day. Maybe you just have sweaty hands?
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if you read my OP its been in my sweaty hands for a week now ROFLMAO, obviously you didn't even read the OP.

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